Homophobes paint a rainbow bench black and more homophobes burn pride bench

[Glenn.]

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[Cherie]

Did they move it as well, because one has a railing behind it and one a brick wall, if it is a real story and they did its just sad they felt they had to do and waste time and paint, on another point, we are importing boatloads of people who have different cultural values and who do not want to accept western values, so its no wonder we are going backwards

[BBXX]

Did they move it as well, because one has a railing behind it and one a brick wall, if it is a real story and they did its just sad they felt they had to do and waste time and paint, on another point, we are importing boatloads of people who have different cultural values and who do not want to accept western values, so its no wonder we are going backwards

White and British people can also be homophobic. When you respond to an incident where there is no mention of the demographic with a comment about immigrants, do you know how that makes you sound?

[BBXX]

I think the rainbow bench illustration is just to show what it should have looked like, and is not the actual bench that was painted. Looks like it's been reinstated with the rainbow. It's not a bench that has anything to do with pride or LGBTQ, it's to combat loneliness, is a 'Happy to Chat' bench.

[Livia]

We don't tend to throw gay people off roofs in this country. Other cultures do, cultures we're handing our country to and who seem to be fervently supported by a lot of people that Muslims would be happy to hang. But yeah, when we mention this it makes US look bad, right?

[Cherie]

White and British people can also be homophobic. When you respond to an incident where there is no mention of the demographic with a comment about immigrants, do you know how that makes you sound?

Of course anyone can be homophobic but when you have lived in a country where acceptance has gradually risen and then gradually it starts going backwards why do you think that is, no point sticking your head in the sand and saying la la la because you dont want to face the realities of other cultures and their impact on Western society, that is not racist, its just factual?

[Cherie]

We don't tend to throw gay people off roofs in this country. Other cultures do, cultures we're handing our country to and who seem to be fervently supported by a lot of people that Muslims would be happy to hang. But yeah, when we mention this it makes US look bad, right?

Right dont mention it just in case it makes you look bad, this is how the grooming gangs got away with it for so long and still get away with it.....sticks fingers in ears and ignore what is in front of your eyes

[BBXX]

We don't tend to throw gay people off roofs in this country. Other cultures do, cultures we're handing our country to and who seem to be fervently supported by a lot of people that Muslims would be happy to hang. But yeah, when we mention this it makes US look bad, right?

This isn't a story about anyone being thrown off a roof. It's about a bench being painted black. Why would you automatically discuss race and ethnicity. Very odd.

Islamic values are ones I don't agree with and are pretty horrific. They also probably have nothing to do with this incident, seeing as where it happened is 99% white.

[Livia]

Right dont mention it just in case it makes you look bad, this is how the grooming gangs got away with it for so long and still get away with it.....sticks fingers in ears and ignore what is in front of your eyes

This is also how Reform has become so popular, the complete inability to talk about this stuff because, you know how that makes us look.

[Livia]

This isn't a story about anyone being thrown off a roof. It's about a bench being painted black. Why would you automatically discuss race and ethnicity. Very odd.

Islamic values are ones I don't agree with and are pretty horrific. They also probably have nothing to do with this incident, seeing as where it happened is 99% white.

Keep those blinkers on, they suit you.

[Cherie]

And when we talk about impact there are also some very positive impacts from food to music to clothing, to kindness etc, but we can't just celebrate all the good and ignore the not so positive impacts, this also goes for alot of Eastern Europeans who are white...but can also have some very dodgy views when it comes to black people and gays

[BBXX]

Of course anyone can be homophobic but when you have lived in a country where acceptance has gradually risen and then gradually it starts going backwards why do you think that is, no point sticking your head in the sand and saying la la la because you dont want to face the realities of other cultures and their impact on Western society, that is not racist, its just factual?

You responded to a news story of homophobic vandalism where no demographic of the vandal was mentioned with "cos immigration". That's why it makes you look racist, because your mind instantly went to immigrants.

Islamic values not aligning with modern British ones is also an issue, I agree. However we have no proof that is correlated to this incident, so in this scenario it's a moot point.

[BBXX]

Keep those blinkers on, they suit you.

Why am I wearing blinkers? Because I refuse to blame an immigrant for this without any knowledge or proof? :shrug:

[Cherie]

You responded to a news story of homophobic vandalism where no demographic of the vandal was mentioned with "cos immigration". That's why it makes you look racist, because your mind instantly went to immigrants.

Islamic values not aligning with modern British ones is also an issue, I agree. However we have no proof that is correlated to this incident, so in this scenario it's a moot point.

Who is racist now as you immediately thought of Muslims...see post above :D:

I actually did not correlate the incident with immigration...I said 'on another point'

Tsk Tsk

[Cherie]

As a matter of interest BBXX why do you think the UK is becoming less accepting of gay people? if it is I don't know as I am not part of the community

[Glenn.]

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[BBXX]

Who is racist now as you immediately thought of Muslims...see post above :D:

I actually did not correlate the incident with immigration...I said 'on another point'

Tsk Tsk

Your mind went to immigration on a story about homophobia, based on your posting history I know your views. Saying "on another point" doesn't change that. If you thought it was completely unrelated you wouldn't have mentioned it at all, but you were trying to make a connection, semantics or not.

[Glenn.]

The rainbow on the bench wasn’t even for pride. That’s what makes it even more hilarious. The homophobes really blind with ignorance.

[BBXX]

As a matter of interest BBXX why do you think the UK is becoming less accepting of gay people? if it is I don't know as I am not part of the community

I think people probably have an aspect of LGBT-fatigue. I think most people saw gay marriage as 'the final step' and anything more is "too much". I think the general public underestimate how prevalent homophobia can be so things like flags and pride are see as pointless and 'too much'.

I think religion isn't as much as an issue as we think it is. I think when it comes to things like polls to get a touchpoint on the attitude of the public in this country, most religious people will answer no to questions like "do you agree with homosexuality" or "do you agree with gay marriage", but generally, I don't think the out-and-out homophobic incidences/attacks are at the hands of religious people.

I think they're at the hands of those people who lack education, who are struggling, and angry at society because they feel abandoned. I think they're looking for people to blame and take their frustrations out on and because they probably find gay people a bit gross, that's who they choose.

Honestly, I think if there was a Venn diagram of "people who get into fights at the football", "people who attack gay people" and "people who vote reform", it would almost be a circle.

I think if you were to measure the social grade, income, education level and employment status of those three groups separately you'd see a huge correlation.

And that isn't to say the rich and well-educated aren't homophobic, but I think they portray it in different ways that can do just as much harm to LGBT people as a punch in the face, but just not physically, like through becoming a politician and campaigning to strip away rights, etc... they don't get sent to jail and then marked down as a crime statistic.

[Cherie]

Your mind went to immigration on a story about homophobia, based on your posting history I know your views. Saying "on another point" doesn't change that. If you thought it was completely unrelated you wouldn't have mentioned it at all, but you were trying to make a connection, semantics or not.

I am afraid there is a connection, whether you wish to acknowledge it or not, different cultures, different values but carry on pretending that views will change as soon as they hit UK soil

I have worked with numerous Asian and Eastern European people, your eyes would pop at how open they are with their views :laugh: I worked with one Polish lady who was a teacher who said she only wanted to live in the same area with white British people, she lumped me into that as I am Irish she didn't see anything wrong with saying that as in her culture it is perfectly acceptable to say it ...but you carry on looking through your rose tints..

[Oliver_W]

I heard of this elsewhere, wasn't it meant to denote general positivity, rather than LGBT?

Looks like it's been reinstated with the rainbow.

Sounds like it would have been possible to get a photo of the actual bench!

[BBXX]

I am afraid there is a connection, whether you wish to acknowledge it or not, different cultures, different values but carry on pretending that views will change as soon as they hit UK soil

I have worked with numerous Asian and Eastern European people, your eyes would pop at how open they are with their views :laugh: I worked with one Polish lady who was a teacher who said she only wanted to live in the same area with white British people, she lumped me into that as I am Irish she didn't see anything wrong with saying that as in her culture it is perfectly acceptable to say it ...but you carry on looking through your rose tints..

I'm not saying there isn't a connection generally, I am not blind to (what I deem to be) problematic values from other cultures and religions. I'm saying there isn't yet a proven connection in this particular incident and the fact you decided to create one was strange.

[Liam-]

Blaming immigrants for the rise of homophobia is laughable, white catholic people are equally homophobic as any of these foreign radical religious people, just something else to blame on foreigners to hide our own people’s failings

[Jordan.]

Of course anyone can be homophobic but when you have lived in a country where acceptance has gradually risen and then gradually it starts going backwards why do you think that is, no point sticking your head in the sand and saying la la la because you dont want to face the realities of other cultures and their impact on Western society, that is not racist, its just factual?

Your anti trans sentiment has played it's part in that acceptance going backwards so you might want to be careful about throwing stones.

[Parmy]

Someone's had enough of the hot weather

[Parmy]

This happened in the local park of my little random town. It has benches named after people, donated by the deceased families. They havnt been painted over yet.

But this is what a young lesbian(fact) girl did on the path next to the play area.

https://www.bordertelegraph.com/news/24524083.kelso-girl-charged-swastika-vandalism-shedden-park/

[Benjamin]

The bench was clearly not even to do with pride, and it’s pretty obvious from the plaque. Hard to see on the image below but it’s the ‘Happy to Chat’ bench (you can see the plaque better online in images, I couldn’t get one to upload clearly on here).

The vandals are either just really thick (and unable to read) thinking it was pride or are just pointless vandals.

Either way, not sure what they achieved with it. Hope it made them feel better about themselves when they went back to their pointless lives afterwards.

https://i.ibb.co/CKB2M9nh/IMG-7379.jpg

[bots]

not being funny, but benches are vandalised, sprayed with graffiti every single day. I'm talking about memorial benches all over the country. Where is the outrage for that?

[Parmy]

Did they move it as well, because one has a railing behind it and one a brick wall, if it is a real story and they did its just sad they felt they had to do and waste time and paint, on another point, we are importing boatloads of people who have different cultural values and who do not want to accept western values, so its no wonder we are going backwards



Ah..probably the local council paint department painted over it as to not offend the new arrivals.

[Parmy]

The rainbow on the bench wasn’t even for pride. That’s what makes it even more hilarious. The homophobes really blind with ignorance.

Crazy illistration to have for mental health well being..a rainbow with a silver cloud hanging about at the end.....like the imaginary pot gold.. that's saying life's going to end disappointingly cause the silver cloud ain't going to be at the end..cause you never get to the end.

[thesheriff443]

Gay people need to take it in turns to sleep on the bench to protect the rainbow

[BBXX]

Crazy illistration to have for mental health well being..a rainbow with a silver cloud hanging about at the end.....like the imaginary pot gold.. that's saying life's going to end disappointingly cause the silver cloud ain't going to be at the end..cause you never get to the end.

The rainbow has long been a symbol for faith, or hope or guidance.

[BBXX]

The vandals are either just really thick (and unable to read) thinking it was pride or are just pointless vandals

Its proven that homophobes have lower levels of cognitive intelligence, so I imagine it's this.

[Glenn.]

Gay people need to take it in turns to sleep on the bench to protect the rainbow

Has nothing to do with Pride. I thought it was made pretty clear in the thread…

[thesheriff443]

Has nothing to do with Pride. I thought it was made pretty clear in the thread…

Did I mention pride? I said protect the rainbow

[Glenn.]

Did I mention pride? I said protect the rainbow


It’s everyone’s job to protect the rainbow.

For further clarity for you, a pride rainbow has six colours whereas a run of the mill rainbow has 7.

I guess the hetero that did this, missed the memo.

[Crimson Dynamo]

"That bench was placed there to promote mental wellbeing"

who writes this type of gobbledygook??

absolute rubbish and an insult to adults with a modicum of intelligence

[Parmy]

The rainbow has long been a symbol for faith, or hope or guidance.



Yes, sent by god. One I doubt you believe in.

[Crimson Dynamo]

the images show a bench that is pre painting at the bottom and one that has been painted at the top

not painted over

not even the same bench

[BBXX]

"That bench was placed there to promote mental wellbeing"

who writes this type of gobbledygook??

absolute rubbish and an insult to adults with a modicum of intelligence

They are benches that have a sign which helps promote strangers talking to one another. If you’re a lonely old man and you sit on one people would know you’re wanting. A conversation, or at least don’t parking in one, and are more likely to talk to you. It’s just a way to try and get strangers to converse with one another. If you’re someone who doesn’t see many people all day one single conversation could mean the world.

[BBXX]

Yes, sent by god. One I doubt you believe in.

A rainbow is literally an optical illusion which people have used for symbolism. For you it’s a sign from God, for me it’s something else. That’s the great thing about life is that we can have different beliefs than each other about the same thing.

[BBXX]

the images show a bench that is pre painting at the bottom and one that has been painted at the top

not painted over

not even the same bench

As stated previously the bench with the rainbow on isn’t the exact same bench but is the same TYPE of bench and was used for illustrative purposes.

[Glenn.]

Remember guys, it’s not a pride bench. Y’all allowed to be outraged about this public vandalism

[Glenn.]

Didn’t the thread about a statue of thatcher being egged get bumped today? Reading through that, public vandalism is frowned upon by certain members. I wonder why this hasn’t received the same condemnation.

[Parmy]

A rainbow is literally an optical illusion which people have used for symbolism. For you it’s a sign from God, for me it’s something else. That’s the great thing about life is that we can have different beliefs than each other about the same thing.

My last shite is now a symbol of relief. Celebrate with me.

[BBXX]

My last shite is now a symbol of relief. Celebrate with me.

For me your last shite is symbolic of some of your posting history. See: different beliefs about the same thing.

[Parmy]

Didn’t the thread about a statue of thatcher being egged get bumped today? Reading through that, public vandalism is frowned upon by certain members. I wonder why this hasn’t received the same condemnation.

You can't equate the glory of Maggie, and het statue to some mouldy old bird shot splatters park bench in some back end hell hole.


Unless you're on TIBB, obviously.:blush::hehe:

[Parmy]

For me your last shite is symbolic of some of your posting history. See: different beliefs about the same thing.

It was glorious.. Thank You very much.

See, we can get along.:wavey:

[Glenn.]

You can't equate the glory of Maggie, and het statue to some mouldy old bird shot splatters park bench in some back end hell hole.


Unless you're on TIBB, obviously.:blush::hehe:

The bat probably made it a hell hole.

[thesheriff443]

It’s everyone’s job to protect the rainbow.

For further clarity for you, a pride rainbow has six colours whereas a run of the mill rainbow has 7.

I guess the hetero that did this, missed the memo.

I Couldn’t give fcuk about a rainbow and how many colours it has

[Glenn.]

I Couldn’t give fcuk about a rainbow and how many colours it has


Your posts in this thread are evident of that :joker:

[thesheriff443]

Your posts in this thread are evident of that :joker:

You were the only one to take my post seriously
So that says enough about you

[Cherie]

Your anti trans sentiment has played it's part in that acceptance going backwards so you might want to be careful about throwing stones.

Sigh

[Glenn.]

You were the only one to take my post seriously
So that says enough about you


:joker: :joker: :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

This black bench has been painted white by far right racists

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcQZnS9lX3G7zEJvoxjf_lCtKzOf8H8 bG8wwd0EPj0w2ZxM4OIKoiT6CxHCoN8jvFYoSV34F-yH6oJxJ7PMTDg3BK1TdOklPmXcpUOGEyKQ

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:omgno:

[Parmy]

Defend the bench.

[Cherie]

not being funny, but benches are vandalised, sprayed with graffiti every single day. I'm talking about memorial benches all over the country. Where is the outrage for that?

True, the worst are the ones dedicated to someone who has passed ...

[Cherie]

I think people probably have an aspect of LGBT-fatigue. I think most people saw gay marriage as 'the final step' and anything more is "too much". I think the general public underestimate how prevalent homophobia can be so things like flags and pride are see as pointless and 'too much'.

I think religion isn't as much as an issue as we think it is. I think when it comes to things like polls to get a touchpoint on the attitude of the public in this country, most religious people will answer no to questions like "do you agree with homosexuality" or "do you agree with gay marriage", but generally, I don't think the out-and-out homophobic incidences/attacks are at the hands of religious people.

I think they're at the hands of those people who lack education, who are struggling, and angry at society because they feel abandoned. I think they're looking for people to blame and take their frustrations out on and because they probably find gay people a bit gross, that's who they choose.

Honestly, I think if there was a Venn diagram of "people who get into fights at the football", "people who attack gay people" and "people who vote reform", it would almost be a circle.

I think if you were to measure the social grade, income, education level and employment status of those three groups separately you'd see a huge correlation.

And that isn't to say the rich and well-educated aren't homophobic, but I think they portray it in different ways that can do just as much harm to LGBT people as a punch in the face, but just not physically, like through becoming a politician and campaigning to strip away rights, etc... they don't get sent to jail and then marked down as a crime statistic.

Thoughtful post

[Mystic Mock]

Didn’t the thread about a statue of thatcher being egged get bumped today? Reading through that, public vandalism is frowned upon by certain members. I wonder why this hasn’t received the same condemnation.

It should do imo.

Vandalism is always a bad thing to do.

[Livia]

If someone took the time to paint over a rainbow bench, what a sad, angry, homophobic, pathetic little person that must be. Obviously, if it was a Muslim, then, it won't be homophobic and they have every right to do that because... Palestine.

[Glenn.]

Imagine being so desperate to twist everything into your culture war bingo card that you can’t just call out bigotry without adding some weird whataboutism.

It is homophobic to vandalize a Pride symbol, even though in this instant Pride isn’t part of it, just low intelligence, no matter who does it or what religion they follow. It doesn’t magically become acceptable because of any other cause. You don’t have to invent these bizarre double standards—just say it’s hateful and pathetic, full stop.

[bots]

with the thousands of benches that get vandalised every week, how do we precisley pick out an instance of bigotry? Do you not think that is a bit of a stretch?

People do these things because they think its funny and cool. If they wanted to be a bigot they could do it in much more fruitful ways

[Crimson Dynamo]

The bench looks better black and i am quite sure more people will sit there to "chat" than in its current activist state

:umm2:

[BBXX]

If someone took the time to paint over a rainbow bench, what a sad, angry, homophobic, pathetic little person that must be. Obviously, if it was a Muslim, then, it won't be homophobic and they have every right to do that because... Palestine.

Why must it always be about race or religion? Nobody has said the above, nobody is claiming that Muslims can't be homophobic.

Newsflash: you can be against mass bombings/murder of a countries civilians even if the laws and religions in those countries condemn your way of life. It's called thinking of others.

In the same way I would condemn it if Hungary or Poland, two pretty staunch non-muslim EU anti-LGBT countries, were subject to mass bombings with thousands of civilians killed.

Just because a countries values condemn me, it doesn't mean I support its civilians being murdered. Sheesh.

[BBXX]

Thoughtful post

Why thank you.

[BBXX]

The bench looks better black and i am quite sure more people will sit there to "chat" than in its current activist state

:umm2:

Most people with critical thinking skills and a shred of emotional intelligence wouldn't be put off sitting on a bench because of... a rainbow.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Most people with critical thinking skills and a shred of emotional intelligence wouldn't be put off sitting on a bench because of... a rainbow.

when you have the ability to speak for "most people " I am sure that you can make that proclamation

[Livia]

Why must it always be about race or religion? Nobody has said the above, nobody is claiming that Muslims can't be homophobic.

Newsflash: you can be against mass bombings/murder of a countries civilians even if the laws and religions in those countries condemn your way of life. It's called thinking of others.

In the same way I would condemn it if Hungary or Poland, two pretty staunch EU anti-LGBT countries, were subject to mass bombings with thousands of civilians killed.

Just because a countries values condemn me, it doesn't mean I support its civilians being murdered. Sheesh.


It amuses me that allowances can be made for cultures that would hang gays but no allowances can be made for white people being ugly homophobes.

Over the last ten years Jewish graves have been desecrated, headstones smashed or daubed with swastikas. Jewish graves in the UK, London, Manchester, Kent, Belfast.... I mean... When this was mentioned before I remember being told by one of TiBB's gay community that it was probably just high spirits. So forgive me if I don't get bent out of shape over a bench being painted over nor spend any more time watching you go on a crusade to support an inherently homophobic religion.

[BBXX]

It amuses me that allowances can be made for cultures that would hang gays but no allowances can be made for white people being ugly homophobes.


Not wanting something to be bombed to death doesn't equal = allowance. If that is your view on "giving allowances" then I don't know what to say. I've literally just used two mostly-white, non-muslim countries as examples of countries that condemn my way or life yet I would still be against mass murder towards its civilians? Where have I given allowances to one culture but not another?

Many Islamic values, IMO, are gross, often sexist and homophobic. I've said this before.

As I've said before, you seem obsessed with trying to stir up hatred toward certain ethnicities, it's extremely disconcerting.

[BBXX]

Over the last ten years Jewish graves have been desecrated, headstones smashed or daubed with swastikas. Jewish graves in the UK, London, Manchester, Kent, Belfast.... I mean... When this was mentioned before I remember being told by one of TiBB's gay community that it was probably just high spirits. So forgive me if I don't get bent out of shape over a bench being painted over nor spend any more time watching you go on a crusade to support an inherently homophobic religion.

Well obviously that's horrific vandalism. I don't think anyone cares whether you get bent out of shape over this particular incident, it's the continuous mention of Muslim people even when it's an unrelated topic. We don't know who did this, so why bring it up? You seem hell bent on stirring up racial hatred and sorry but it's ****ing gross.

[Livia]

Not wanting something to be bombed to death doesn't equal = allowance. If that is your view on "giving allowances" then I don't know what to say. I've literally just used two mostly-white, non-muslim countries as examples of countries that condemn my way or life yet I would still be against mass murder towards its civilians? Where have I given allowances to one culture but not another?

Many Islamic values, IMO, are gross, often sexist and homophobic. I've said this before.

As I've said before, you seem obsessed with trying to stir up hatred toward certain ethnicities, it's extremely disconcerting.

There's no talking to you critical thinkers.

[BBXX]

There's no talking to you critical thinkers.

Thanks, I guess.

[Livia]

Well obviously that's horrific vandalism. I don't think anyone cares whether you get bent out of shape over this particular incident, it's the continuous mention of Muslim people even when it's an unrelated topic. We don't know who did this, so why bring it up? You seem hell bent on stirring up racial hatred and sorry but it's ****ing gross.

Is there no chance that this bench was vandalised by people from a culture who think gays should be dead? It's much more comfortable for you to imagine it was a big old white homophobe who's responsible.

[BBXX]

Is there no chance that this bench was vandalised by people from a culture who think gays should be dead? It's much more comfortable for you to imagine it was a big old white homophobe who's responsible.

Of course there is a chance, but in the same way I didn't mention they were probably white, I don't see why anyone needs to mention they are potential Muslim. I am saying that as we don't know the identity of the vandal, or the motivation behind it, why do we need to dwell on the race or ethnicity or religion of the person who did it?

You seem to think I am against any kind of criticism of ethnic minorities, despite me calling a religion many of them follow gross, multiple times.

Mentioning the issues of Islam is fine when it's related to the topic at hand. When it's not, when it's mentioned as a way to try and score points, it' comes across as racially motivated hatred.

Of course there is a chance it was done by someone who following Islam and hates gays and wanted to erase what they thought was a symbol of them. My question is, when it was done in a town where just 1.84% of the population is non-white, why did you mind go to "it must have been a Muslim" first?

[Kate!]

Livia didn't say or infer it must have been a muslim. Just that it was a possibility. She's so absolutely not showing any racially motivated hatred whatsoever, it's not in her nature. I know her very well.

[BBXX]

when you have the ability to speak for "most people " I am sure that you can make that proclamation

Fair enough, but...

The bench looks better black and i am quite sure more people will sit there to "chat" than in its current activist state

When you have the ability to know what will motivate "more people" to sit and "chat" I am sure that you can make that proclamation.

[Niamh.]

Fair enough, but...



When you have the ability to know what will motivate "more people" to sit and "chat" I am sure that you can make that proclamation.

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[bots]

Of course there is a chance, but in the same way I didn't mention they were probably white, I don't see why anyone needs to mention they are potential Muslim. I am saying that as we don't know the identity of the vandal, or the motivation behind it, why do we need to dwell on the race or ethnicity or religion of the person who did it?

You seem to think I am against any kind of criticism of ethnic minorities, despite me calling a religion many of them follow gross, multiple times.

Mentioning the issues of Islam is fine when it's related to the topic at hand. When it's not, when it's mentioned as a way to try and score points, it' comes across as racially motivated hatred.

Of course there is a chance it was done by someone who following Islam and hates gays and wanted to erase what they thought was a symbol of them. My question is, when it was done in a town where just 1.84% of the population is non-white, why did you mind go to "it must have been a Muslim" first?

I do think it's worth dwelling on when there is an entire culture out there that thinks its ok to throw gays off buildings. The more that culture is brought into the country, the more incidents you are going to get. It's simple statistics. It seems insane for people to tie themselves in knots trying to ignore it

[BBXX]

Livia didn't say or infer it must have been a muslim. Just that it was a possibility. She's so absolutely not showing any racially motivated hatred whatsoever, it's not in her nature. I know her very well.

Both her and Cherie went directly in with "this is what happens when we import boatloads of people" and "we tend not to throw people off buildings for being gay in this country". It was literally their first response to this article which mentions race or religion zero times.

Why mention it? Of course it's a possibility. But it's also a possibility it's someone who is Catholic. Or Buddhist. Or an Atheist. Why mention just that one possibility?

[Livia]

Fair enough, but...



When you have the ability to know what will motivate "more people" to sit and "chat" I am sure that you can make that proclamation.

https://media.tenor.com/_PdBtyItFXgAAAAM/dodgeball-touche.gif

All we have to do is imagine Muslims will be willing to sit on the same bench as gay people for that chat and everything will be fine.

[Kate!]

Well it is a very strong possibility to be fair. That it could have been a muslim I mean.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Fair enough, but...



When you have the ability to know what will motivate "more people" to sit and "chat" I am sure that you can make that proclamation.

"Most people with critical thinking skills and a shred of emotional intelligence wouldn't be put off sitting on a bench because of... a rainbow."

is not the same as

" i am quite sure more people will sit there to "chat" than in its current activist state"

For a start I don't insult people with my post unlike you do and secondly, I state its my opinion where as you make out it is the accepted opinion


I prefer my approach, perhaps on reflection you will too..

[Livia]

Both her and Cherie went directly in with "this is what happens when we import boatloads of people" and "we tend not to throw people off buildings for being gay in this country". It was literally their first response to this article which mentions race or religion zero times.

Why mention it? Of course it's a possibility. But it's also a possibility it's someone who is Catholic. Or Buddhist. Or an Atheist. Why mention just that one possibility?

When was the last time a catholic hanged a gay from a crane just for being gay?

[BBXX]

I do think it's worth dwelling on when there is an entire culture out there that thinks its ok to throw gays off buildings. The more that culture is brought into the country, the more incidents you are going to get. It's simple statistics. It seems insane for people to tie themselves in knots trying to ignore it

Nobody is ignoring it, they are just saying in this case it's pointless to dwell. If you care about statistics, why are you ignoring the statistic that the place in which it took place is almost 99% white and almost 99% of the towns population are either Catholic or Atheist. Do those statistics matter.

You know, one of the reasons Pride is still so important, as many an LGBT person will tell you, is because as a community we recognise the issues faced globally, not just locally. Nobody is ignoring it.

I am all for dwelling on homophobic incidences in the UK that are religiously motivated, regardless of the religion. Absolutely. However, in this particularly instance, there is no proof it was a religiously motivated attack and so speculation will just breed needless hate.

I do get the fine balance between being a country that embraces multiculturalism while ensuring we promote key values of modern Britain, of which many values of Islam faith, for example, really collide with. We need to limit that bleeding into our culture for the safety of the British people, but that doesn't mean speculating and finger-pointing without evidence or need. That's racially motivated for no reason and undermines tackling such issues when it IS relevant.

[BBXX]

When was the last time a catholic hanged a gay from a crane just for being gay?

Is this a story about someone being hanged from a crane or was it a story about a rainbow being painted over?

What a bizarre reply. I'm not having this conversation with you anymore, you're not even considering the context which surrounds this discussion.

[Parmy]

Imagine being so desperate to twist everything into your culture war bingo card that you can’t just call out bigotry without adding some weird whataboutism.

It is homophobic to vandalize a Pride symbol, even though in this instant Pride isn’t part of it, just low intelligence, no matter who does it or what religion they follow. It doesn’t magically become acceptable because of any other cause. You don’t have to invent these bizarre double standards—just say it’s hateful and pathetic, full stop.




Erm, you and your fellow LGBTQ rainbow worshippersare claiming this is an attack on LGBTQ, just cause a rainbow got painted over...No proof whatsoever as to why it was painted over...never miss a chance to make it all about them.

[Livia]

Is this a story about someone being hanged from a crane or was it a story about a rainbow being painted over?

What a bizarre reply. I'm not having this conversation with you anymore, you're not even considering the context which surrounds this discussion.

You're a critical thinker, you try and work out the connection.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Erm, you and your fellow LGBTQ rainbow worshippersare claiming this is an attack on LGBTQ, just cause a rainbow got painted over...No proof whatsoever as to why it was painted over...never miss a chance to make it all about them.

"Rainbow bench that had nothing to do with Pride painted black by vandals"

https://www.derbytelegraph.co.uk/news/local-news/rainbow-bench-nothing-pride-painted-10316026

so the whole thread premise is wrong and is based on a false accusation

can the poster alter the title?

[Glenn.]

Erm, you and your fellow LGBTQ rainbow worshippersare claiming this is an attack on LGBTQ, just cause a rainbow got painted over...No proof whatsoever as to why it was painted over...never miss a chance to make it all about them.


It is only a moron would think it wasn’t. A homophobic moron with zero critical thinking thought this was a pride bench.

[Glenn.]

Not surprising at all to see it being dismissed :joker:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Not surprising at all to see it being dismissed :joker:

just change your title. its wrong

[Glenn.]

If you’re saying it’s wrong I’m gonna go ahead and keep it how it is. We both know it’s not chap :thumbs:

[Kate!]

If you’re saying it’s wrong I’m gonna go ahead and keep it how it is. We both know it’s not chap :thumbs:

Eh? It is wrong though. You made a big deal of saying its nothing to do with pride? Now you're insisting it was homophobic when it may or may not have been. Unless you can read minds now. You've destroyed your own argument.

[Glenn.]

Eh? It is wrong though. You made a big deal of saying its nothing to do with pride? Now you're insisting it was homophobic when it may or may not have been. Unless you can read minds now. You've destroyed your own argument.

No no. I said the bench has nothing to do with pride. It was vandalised by an idiot that thought it was. You see homophobes don’t have much upstairs in terms of intelligence.
It’s pretty easy to see why it was vandalised. That much is evident.

Obviously not for some

[Niamh.]

It's far more likely to have been someone who was homophobic than someone who just prefers to sit on a black bench...............imo

[Kate!]

No no. I said the bench has nothing to do with pride. It was vandalised by an idiot that thought it was. You see homophobes don’t have much upstairs in terms of intelligence.
It’s pretty easy to see why it was vandalised. That much is evident.

Obviously not for some

Oh I see, you know exactly what was in this morons mind then? Silly me. I'm not saying it's not highly likely, I do agree with it being very probable but not so daft as to announce it as fact like you have.

[Glenn.]

Oh I see, you know exactly what was in this morons mind then? Silly me. I'm not saying it's not highly likely, I do agree with it being very probable but not so daft as to announce it as fact like you have.

That’s the privilege of having critical thought :thumbs:

[Glenn.]

It's far more likely to have been someone who was homophobic than someone who just prefers to sit on a black bench...............imo

:clap1:

I mean it’s pretty obvious

[Kate!]

That’s the privilege of having critical thought :thumbs:

More like cynical thought.

[Glenn.]

It’s not cynical to state the obvious

[Niamh.]

:clap1:

I mean it’s pretty obvious

I never realised actually that the Rainbow flag had one less colour than the actual rainbow, everyday's a school day :laugh:

[Kate!]

It’s not cynical to state the obvious

Still isn't a fact.

[Glenn.]

Still isn't a fact.


More likely to be fact than anything else though :thumbs:

[Kate!]

More likely to be fact than anything else though :thumbs:

Yes, I said that :pipe:

[BBXX]

More like cynical thought.

If you're willing to suggest it's a very strong possibility it's a Muslim because of Islamic teachings around homosexuality, you are conceding it's an act motivated by homophobia.

Only now you're suggesting it's cynical to suggest it's homophobia-related, despite your confidence that it's highly probable to be Muslim because...of... homophobia.

Eh.

[bots]

Personally, I blame Irving, he is the most likely culprit

[Kate!]

Oh so it's unacceptable for myself and others to say it was highly likely to be a muslim but totally fine for Glenn to say it was definitely 100% certainty to be homophobic. You see the difference?

[Glenn.]

Oh so it's unacceptable for myself and others to say it was highly likely to be a muslim but totally fine for Glenn to say it was definitely 100% certainty to be homophobic. You see the difference?


The only people that have said otherwise are the ones triggered by the very flag the homophobe thought it was when they painted over it.

[Kate!]

The only people that have said otherwise are the ones triggered by the very flag the homophobe thought it was when they painted over it.

I didn't say otherwise. I said it was highly probable but not a fact.

[BBXX]

Oh so it's unacceptable for myself and others to say it was highly likely to be a muslim but totally fine for Glenn to say it was definitely 100% certainty to be homophobic. You see the difference?

Yes, one is using something that actually happened to come to a likely conclusion on motivation, the other is blaming a specific demographic for no reason.

One does no harm, the other perpetuates racial division based on nothing.

[bots]

Yes, one is using something that actually happened to come to a likely conclusion on motivation, the other is blaming a specific demographic for no reason.


but its not raising a flag without reason though is it, when it's built into a particular demograhics religion

[Glenn.]

Yes, one is using something that actually happened to come to a likely conclusion on motivation, the other is blaming a specific demographic for no reason.

One does no harm, the other perpetuates racial division based on nothing.


:clap1:

[Kate!]

but its not raising a flag without reason though is it, when it's built into a particular demograhics religion

Exactly. It's just as likely it was a muslim.

[Glenn.]

So still homophobic then

[Kate!]

So still homophobic then

Sigh, yes I said that several times. Stop going on. No matter what we think it is only probably the case. Not fact. Why so hell bent on saying it is.

[BBXX]

but its not raising a flag without reason though is it, when it's built into a particular demograhics religion

But it's needless, because there is no evidence it was religiously motivated, so it's all just finger-pointing. Again, you're focusing on the statistics of that demographic's religion which ignoring the statistics surrounding the demographic in the town it took place, which once again I will state is almost 99% white and made up of basically Catholics and Atheists.

According to the latest Census, the number of Muslim residents are: 71, compared to over 9,000 Christians and 12,000 atheists, just to put that into context.

With this in mind, and as stats are so important to you, do you not think it' wild you're prepared to point the finger at a group that make up 0.2% of the towns population without just cause. Does that not strike you as a weird thing to do?

[Glenn.]

Those damn statistics huh

[bots]

But it's needless, because there is no evidence it was religiously motivated, so it's all just finger-pointing. Again, you're focusing on the statistics of that demographic's religion which ignoring the statistics surrounding the demographic in the town it took place, which once again I will state is almost 99% white and made up of basically Catholics and Atheists.

According to the latest Census, the number of Muslim residents are: 71, compared to over 9,000 Christians and 12,000 atheists, just to put that into context.

With this in mind, and as stats are so important to you, do you not think it' wild you're prepared to point the finger at a group that make up 0.2% of the towns population without just cause. Does that not strike you as a weird thing to do?


Atheists don't give a crap about anything spiritual and Christians are pretty accepting of most things, so you would seem to be destroying your own argument

[Glenn.]

The mental gymnastics on display here are Olympic

[Kate!]

Yes there's a fair bit of destroying own arguments going on.

[Niamh.]

Atheists don't give a crap about anything spiritual and Christians are pretty accepting of most things, so you would seem to be destroying your own argument

People of any faith or non-faith can be homophobic.

[Glenn.]

Some people don’t even know what the argument is. It’s the ones that see the pride flag as the enemy that don’t seem to be grasping it. Out of lack of perspective or just willingly ignorant to it.

[bots]

People of any faith or non-faith can be homophobic.

i never said otherwise. I just find the intentional blindness to an ever increasing immigrant population that have homophobia written in to their religion and way of life quite staggering

[BBXX]

Atheists don't give a crap about anything spiritual and Christians are pretty accepting of most things, so you would seem to be destroying your own argument

Why would I, I haven't claimed it was religiously motivated.

I pointed out the other religious (or lack of religion) demographics for perspective on just how few Muslim residents there are.

If you can explain how me highlighting the minute number of Muslim residents destroys my argument that would be great.

Aside from that obvious flaw in logic, it seems you have a habit of painting all religious demographics with the same brush - most positive and negative - which is poor form. The idea no atheist or Christian is homophobic is a wild claim.

[Livia]

People of any faith or non-faith can be homophobic.

Although not many have it written into their rules nor abide by it so vigorously as Islam does. And even if they do... Jews and Christians for example, both acknowledge the book of Leviticus, but apart from your weird, joyless fundamentalists, they're pretty accepting of gay people. Islam is about 300 years behind other religions, though.


I'd like to say for the record, what was the point of painting over the bench? I thought it looked very nice...

[Crimson Dynamo]

Although not many have it written into their rules nor abide by it so vigorously as Islam does. And even if they do... Jews and Christians for example, both acknowledge the book of Leviticus, but apart from your weird, joyless fundamentalists, they're pretty accepting of gay people. Islam is about 300 years behind other religions, though.


I'd like to say for the record, what was the point of painting over the bench? I thought it looked very nice...

probably a council regular maintenance team doing all the benches in the area one color and they did not get the memo

[BBXX]

i never said otherwise. I just find the intentional blindness to an ever increasing immigrant population that have homophobia written in to their religion and way of life quite staggering

I am talking about this specific instance. Around 900 of the towns residents (out of 24,300) were born outside the UK. Most of the in Europe.

[Niamh.]

i never said otherwise. I just find the intentional blindness to an ever increasing immigrant population that have homophobia written in to their religion and way of life quite staggering

Although not many have it written into their rules nor abide by it so vigorously as Islam does. And even if they do... Jews and Christians for example, both acknowledge the book of Leviticus, but apart from your weird, joyless fundamentalists, they're pretty accepting of gay people. Islam is about 300 years behind other religions, though.


I'd like to say for the record, what was the point of painting over the bench? I thought it looked very nice...

The bench did look very nice before it was painted over :laugh:

But yeah, I just think to make claims that it could have been a Muslim is pretty pointless, it could have been anyone and like BBXX said, pointing fingers at one demographic when there's absolutely nothing to say it was a Muslim person is just divisive.

[Livia]

probably a council regular maintenance team doing all the benches in the area one color and they did not get the memo

Can you imagine the outrage if it turns out to have been a clerical error and not raging homophobia?

[Glenn.]

probably a council regular maintenance team doing all the benches in the area one color and they did not get the memo


Unlikely as it was the council that installed the bench for a purpose. You know that though

[Livia]

The bench did look very nice before it was painted over :laugh:

But yeah, I just think to make claims that it could have been a Muslim is pretty pointless, it could have been anyone and like BBXX said, pointing fingers at one demographic when there's absolutely nothing to say it was a Muslim person is just divisive.

I think people were pointing out that it's disingenuous to say that someone from a backward, gay hating, women oppressing religion probably didn't do it. It's much more comfortable to say it's a white, working class, right wing person, also without one shred of proof. We have plenty of homophobic dickheads in this country, but none quite so zealous as Islamists. I think it's quite relevant to point out, in a thread about perceived homophobia, that we have a section of society who, if homophobia was ever a sport, they would take gold.

[bots]

what i have a problem with is citing a vandalised bench as a homophobic action when people are actually being beaten up or worse. Pick the right battles to fight

[Niamh.]

I think people were pointing out that it's disingenuous to say that someone from a backward, gay hating, women oppressing religion probably didn't do it. It's much more comfortable to say it's a white, working class, right wing person, also without one shred of proof. We have plenty of homophobic dickheads in this country, but none quite so zealous as Islamists. I think it's quite relevant to point out, in a thread about perceived homophobia, that we have a section of society who, if homophobia was ever a sport, they would take gold.

It could have been anyone, I don't think it's any more likely either way. What demographic is more likely to be walking around with cans of spray paint?

[Glenn.]

what i have a problem with is citing a vandalised bench as a homophobic action when people are actually being beaten up or worse. Pick the right battles to fight


You do realise it’s possible to care about both? Vandalising a bench—especially when it wasn’t even a Pride bench but was targeted because someone thought it was—shows just how irrational and knee-jerk bigotry can be. This is the same mindset that fuels actual violence against people. Visibility matters. Symbols matter. Pretending it’s not worth calling out is exactly how hate gets normalised. You don’t have to pick just one “battle” against it.

[Liam-]

i never said otherwise. I just find the intentional blindness to an ever increasing immigrant population that have homophobia written in to their religion and way of life quite staggering

As opposed to the ever loving and accepting bible teachings

[Cherie]

It could have been anyone, I don't think it's any more likely either way. What demographic is more likely to be walking around with cans of spray paint?

Graffiti artists who tend to be kids so maybe no homophobia intended just did it or the sheer hell of it like every other vandalised bench

[Niamh.]

Graffiti artists who tend to be kids so maybe no homophobia intended just did it or the sheer hell of it like every other vandalised bench

Graffiti artists tend to want to leave some sort of a message which is why I think that painting over the rainbow is more likely to be sending some anti gay sentiment rather than "hey lets paint this bench black"

[Cherie]

Graffiti artists tend to want to leave some sort of a message which is why I think that painting over the rainbow is more likely to be sending some anti gay sentiment rather than "hey lets paint this bench black"

Its pretty perfectly painted they took their time anyway :laugh:Maybe its an antisocial person who just wants a bench to sit on and doesn't want to chat :think:

[Niamh.]

Its pretty perfectly painted they took their time anyway :laugh:Maybe its an antisocial person who just wants a bench to sit on and doesn't want to chat :think:

maybe :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

I am pretty sure the puzzle of whodunnit will soon be solved soon as the local Police have released the 2 detectives who are on the case

https://i.imgur.com/ffxrdg2.gif

[bots]

it obviously took more than a couple of mins to paint. It would be difficult to paint a black bench black at night, so did someone get the masking tape out and spend an hour painting it during the day

[Glenn.]

it obviously took more than a couple of mins to paint. It would be difficult to paint a black bench black at night, so did someone get the masking tape out and spend an hour painting it during the day

Whether they used masking tape or a rag and a tin of paint isn’t really the point. Someone still took the time to vandalise it because they thought it was a Pride bench. That’s the level of petty, spiteful energy we’re talking about.

[BBXX]

I think people were pointing out that it's disingenuous to say that someone from a backward, gay hating, women oppressing religion probably didn't do it. It's much more comfortable to say it's a white, working class, right wing person, also without one shred of proof. We have plenty of homophobic dickheads in this country, but none quite so zealous as Islamists. I think it's quite relevant to point out, in a thread about perceived homophobia, that we have a section of society who, if homophobia was ever a sport, they would take gold.

I don't think anyone said someone of Islamic faith didn't do it, just that it probably unlikely due to the demographic of the town, and that it was simply pointless to bring up race and religion when it may not even be relevant.

Cherie was the first person to reply to this thread and made the initial suggestion with the "importing boatloads of people without western values" comment and I simply replied saying White and British people can also be homophobic, to which you made a comment about people throwing other people off buildings.

Those were the first comments on this thread. Both you and Cherie went immediately to that and nobody at any point has said anything about the race of the person who did it.

It's complete back-peddling to now say you were simply pointing out it's disingenuous to say someone didn't do it in the name of Islam. You didn't give anyone a chance to say such a thing before you started race-baiting.

[bots]

Maybe they didn't like zippy and bungle :shrug:

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe they didn't like zippy and bungle :shrug:

could be a climate change nutter making a political point about solar energy

[Livia]

I don't think anyone said someone of Islamic faith didn't do it, just that it probably unlikely due to the demographic of the town, and that it was simply pointless to bring up race and religion when it may not even be relevant.

Cherie was the first person to reply to this thread and made the initial suggestion with the "importing boatloads of people without western values" comment and I simply replied saying White and British people can also be homophobic, to which you made a comment about people throwing other people off buildings.

Those were the first comments on this thread. Both you and Cherie went immediately to that and nobody at any point has said anything about the race of the person who did it.

It's complete back-peddling to now say you were simply pointing out it's disingenuous to say someone didn't do it in the name of Islam. You didn't give anyone a chance to say such a thing before you started race-baiting.

Whereas you immediately jumped to the "you're all racists!" Stance, as usual. Boring and predictable.

[Livia]

The "Happy to Chat" bench in Mundy Street, Heanor, was found to have been painted black earlier this week - with the town clerk calling it "a great shame".

"The bench is part of a countrywide initiative to help prevent loneliness in communities. It has a plaque that essentially says, if you are happy to chat with a stranger then you can sit here on this bench. The rainbow was chosen as the design because it was cheerful and fun, and it also represents the promise of sunshine after darkness and rain.


It was a "happy to chat" bench, nothing to do with Pride or only gay people... just people.

Thread title is wrong.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rainbow-bench-that-had-nothing-to-do-with-pride-painted-black-by-vandals/ar-AA1HTyOB?ocid=BingNewsSerp

[joeysteele]

This is interesting as are the views on it expressed here too.

No one knows who did this, therefore it can only be assumptions as to why whoever did.
However it would appear no other benches were painted over, only this one with a rainbow pattern on it.
I'd say it's fair to assume in that case, that since the rainbow image IS associated with the gay communities, that the probable reason for this rainbow imaged bench being painted over, was from a more likely homophobic thinking and action.

As to comments about plaques on benches, I've sat on benches and not even realised there was a plaque on them.
I'd doubt anyone seeing the rainbow and being probably more homophobic would even read the plaque anyhow.
However IF it wasn't done from a prejudicial homophobic thinking, then why on earth would anyone else even think about painting over this bench, never mind actually doing so.

[Glenn.]

The "Happy to Chat" bench in Mundy Street, Heanor, was found to have been painted black earlier this week - with the town clerk calling it "a great shame".

"The bench is part of a countrywide initiative to help prevent loneliness in communities. It has a plaque that essentially says, if you are happy to chat with a stranger then you can sit here on this bench. The rainbow was chosen as the design because it was cheerful and fun, and it also represents the promise of sunshine after darkness and rain.


It was a "happy to chat" bench, nothing to do with Pride or only gay people... just people.

Thread title is wrong.

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/rainbow-bench-that-had-nothing-to-do-with-pride-painted-black-by-vandals/ar-AA1HTyOB?ocid=BingNewsSerp

It was painted black by someone who mistook it for a pride bench.

Are you incapable of reading a thread before commenting? It’s literally what we’ve been discussing?

[Kate!]

So still homophobic then

This is interesting as are the views on it expressed here too.

No one knows who did this, therefore it can only be assumptions as to why whoever did.
However it would appear no other benches were painted over, only this one with a rainbow pattern on it.
I'd say it's fair to assume in that case, that since the rainbow image IS associated with the gay communities, that the probable reason for this rainbow imaged bench being painted over, was from a more likely homophobic thinking and action.

As to comnents about plaques on benches, I've sat on benches and not even realised there was a plaque on them.
I'd doubt anyone seeing the rainbow and being probably more homophobic would even read the plaque anyhow.
However IF it wasn't done from a prejudicial homophobic thinking, then why on earth would anyone else even think about painting over this bench, never mind actually doing so.

Excellent post Joey, good point of view and correct. This is why the thread title is WRONG. if the OP won't change it, the staff should.

[Glenn.]

Excellent post Joey, good point of view and correct. This is why the thread title is WRONG.


He said it was probably homophobic…..


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[Kate!]

He said it was probably homophobic…..


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Yes so did I as you well know. He also said, read the bold part at the top, that nobody knows who did it. Unlike your claims. If you had anything about you then you'd change your title.

[Niamh.]

Excellent post Joey, good point of view and correct. This is why the thread title is WRONG. if the OP won't change it, the staff should.

Don't be ridiculous Kate, it's Glenns thread and he can call it what he wants, it's very likely that it was done for that reason

[Glenn.]

One of the mods who has posted in this thread has said it’s homophobic too.

I won’t be changing anything. No matter how you much you insist. As sad as that is.

[Kate!]

Don't be ridiculous Kate, it's Glenns thread and he can call it what he wants, it's very likely that it was done for that reason

It is yes Niamh. It is likely. But it isn't a fact that homophobes did it. Therefore the title is wrong.

[Benjamin]

Pretty much everyone in the thread is assuming something tbf.

The only facts we know for certain is a rainbow bench was painted black by vandals.

[Livia]

It was painted black by someone who mistook it for a pride bench.

Are you incapable of reading a thread before commenting? It’s literally what we’ve been discussing?


I have read the thread. You said a homophobe painted it because they thought it was a Pride thing. You suddenly know a lot about the perpetrator and the workings of their mind, even though you have no idea who it was. Maybe it was just a joyless old vandal.

[Glenn.]

Can Kate be banned from posting in here please. She hasn’t contributed anything to the thread except to bait.

[Kate!]

One of the mods who has posted in this thread has said it’s homophobic too.

I won’t be changing anything. No matter how you much you insist. As sad as that is.

No they said probably!!!

[Kate!]

Can Kate be banned from posting in here please. She hasn’t contributed anything to the thread except to bait.

Not arsed.

[Glenn.]

Go away then

[Livia]

Pretty much everyone in the thread is assuming something tbf.

The only facts we know for certain is a rainbow bench was painted black by vandals.

Don't you come in here being all reasonable. Where do you think you are?

[Benjamin]

Don't you come in here being all reasonable. Where do you think you are?

Sorry, forgot myself for a moment :laugh:

[Kate!]

Go away then

Bite me. You know you're wrong. You've presented it as a fact that it was a homophobe. Nobody else has, we've all said probably or possibly.

[Glenn.]

Anyway

[Crimson Dynamo]

Maybe it was Banksy

https://banksyexplained.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/WESTON-SUPER-MARE-SOTHEBYS.jpg

[Kate!]

Maybe it was Banksy

https://banksyexplained.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/05/WESTON-SUPER-MARE-SOTHEBYS.jpg

Bahaha :joker:

[Glenn.]

Funny how some people think dismissing homophobia makes them look all edgy and contrarian. Wow, so rebellious—rolling your eyes at basic decency and acting like caring about hate is just “virtue signalling.”

Spoiler: it doesn’t make you deep or clever. It just makes you look like you’re desperate to feel superior to people who still have empathy.

[Jordan.]

The struggle deciding if you want to downplay homophobia or blame it on Muslim immigrants

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/857/231/876.png

[Kate!]

The struggle deciding if you want to downplay homophobia or blame it on Muslim immigrants

https://i.kym-cdn.com/photos/images/newsfeed/001/857/231/876.png

Who is down playing it? Certainly not me. I clearly say it most likely was several times in here.

[Glenn.]

Who is down playing it? Certainly not me. I clearly say it most likely was several times in here.

You’ve spent most of this thread splitting hairs over whether it was definitely or probably homophobic, as if that technicality somehow matters more than the fact someone still targeted it out of bigotry. It’s just a way to minimise it without having to admit you’re minimising it.

[arista]

At least the Metal bench
can still be used

[Kate!]

You’ve spent most of this thread splitting hairs over whether it was definitely or probably homophobic, as if that technicality somehow matters more than the fact someone still targeted it out of bigotry. It’s just a way to minimise it without having to admit you’re minimising it.

Rubbish. And you're still wrong btw. It is not a fact that someone targeted it out of bigotry. No matter how much you hammer the point.

[Glenn.]

Oh I see, you know exactly what was in this morons mind then? Silly me. I'm not saying it's not highly likely, I do agree with it being very probable but not so daft as to announce it as fact like you have.

Still isn't a fact.

I didn't say otherwise. I said it was highly probable but not a fact.

Sigh, yes I said that several times. Stop going on. No matter what we think it is only probably the case. Not fact. Why so hell bent on saying it is.

Excellent post Joey, good point of view and correct. This is why the thread title is WRONG. if the OP won't change it, the staff should.

Yes so did I as you well know. He also said, read the bold part at the top, that nobody knows who did it. Unlike your claims. If you had anything about you then you'd change your title.

It is yes Niamh. It is likely. But it isn't a fact that homophobes did it. Therefore the title is wrong.

Bite me. You know you're wrong. You've presented it as a fact that it was a homophobe. Nobody else has, we've all said probably or possibly.

Rubbish. And you're still wrong btw. It is not a fact that someone targeted it out of bigotry. No matter how much you hammer the point.

You have to laugh

[Kate!]

You have to laugh

For every one of those, there's a post from you adamantly insisting that it was definitely homophobic. Show me a link that says this is the considered viewpoint.

[Kate!]

The only info stated is that it was done by sad vandals.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The bench was installed in 2022 to combat loneliness and the rainbow design
was chosen because it was 'cheerful and fun'


https://68.media.tumblr.com/de65188402f78489785691a0585f1686/tumblr_o1qdcwxO8E1qk8rzpo1_500.gif

[Kate!]

People can think what they want of me but Glenn is making a mountain out of a molehill. I've agreed that it's extremely likely to have been a homophobic attack, I just take exception to the statement it definitely was. That's why the title is wrong.

[Glenn.]

People can think what they want of me but Glenn is making a mountain out of a molehill. I've agreed that it's extremely likely to have been a homophobic attack, I just take exception to the statement it definitely was. That's why the title is wrong.


Why else would a rainbow bench be vandalised? Seriously, enlighten us. What other brilliant motive could there be for someone so pressed about a few colours they thought were a Pride symbol? You’ve already conceded it was probably homophobia, yet you’re still desperately clinging to a technicality like it magically redeems the whole thing. Spoiler: it doesn’t.

Funny how you only seem this invested in nitpicking when it’s me pointing it out. It’s almost like you’re more bothered by who’s saying it than by the actual bigotry itself.

Incredibly sad

[Kate!]

Why else would a rainbow bench be vandalised? Seriously, enlighten us. What other brilliant motive could there be for someone so pressed about a few colours they thought were a Pride symbol? You’ve already conceded it was probably homophobia, yet you’re still desperately clinging to a technicality like it magically redeems the whole thing. Spoiler: it doesn’t.

Funny how you only seem this invested in nitpicking when it’s me pointing it out. It’s almost like you’re more bothered by who’s saying it than by the actual bigotry itself.

Incredibly sad

Please yourself. I don't have to explain to you. It doesn't matter who said it, the assumption is wrong. I'm not clinging on to anything. I'm as appalled as you are by a senseless act.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Covid-19 pandemic memorial bench in Victoria Park in the west of Glasgow.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGewcR69zW82msYvcZt1jyI_eqLM93t WiaO9hv6XPV_7nD7OShQ5sGC4Wx-VAWu90HM94&usqp=CAU

[Glenn.]

Please yourself. I don't have to explain to you. It doesn't matter who said it, the assumption is wrong. I'm not clinging on to anything. I'm as appalled as you are by a senseless act.

If you’re as appalled as I am, you might try acting like it instead of spending half the thread arguing over semantics. You don’t have to explain anything to me, but let’s be real—if it didn’t matter who said it, you wouldn’t be this defensive every time I open my mouth.

[joeysteele]

Oops, I may need to clarify my position more.

I did say in my post we don't know WHO did this.
As to the individual or individuals identity we don't.
However just about all the rest of my post was indicating this blacking out of the rainbow design of this bench was more than likely done from homophobic thinking and actions.
In my view, the weight in favour of that is extremely strong, indeed overwhelming.

I say again, WHY would any person or persons even think of blacking out the rainbow design of this bench, never mind actually ending up doing so, UNLESS those doing it ARE homophobic.
I can only answer myself one way as to that, which is, because he/she/they ARE.

[Vicky.]

Bloody ridiculous and petty. Also imo clearly homophobic

[Mystic Mock]

It amuses me that allowances can be made for cultures that would hang gays but no allowances can be made for white people being ugly homophobes.

Over the last ten years Jewish graves have been desecrated, headstones smashed or daubed with swastikas. Jewish graves in the UK, London, Manchester, Kent, Belfast.... I mean... When this was mentioned before I remember being told by one of TiBB's gay community that it was probably just high spirits. So forgive me if I don't get bent out of shape over a bench being painted over nor spend any more time watching you go on a crusade to support an inherently homophobic religion.

:umm2:

An... Interesting perspective from whoever said that to you.

[Mystic Mock]

I do think it's worth dwelling on when there is an entire culture out there that thinks its ok to throw gays off buildings. The more that culture is brought into the country, the more incidents you are going to get. It's simple statistics. It seems insane for people to tie themselves in knots trying to ignore it

I do agree with you.

[Maru]

Covid-19 pandemic memorial bench in Victoria Park in the west of Glasgow.

https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTGewcR69zW82msYvcZt1jyI_eqLM93t WiaO9hv6XPV_7nD7OShQ5sGC4Wx-VAWu90HM94&usqp=CAU

That's just sad. It's a lovely bench.

[Mystic Mock]

It's far more likely to have been someone who was homophobic than someone who just prefers to sit on a black bench...............imo

This.

[Mystic Mock]

People of any faith or non-faith can be homophobic.

Most Homophobia comes from Religious people imo.

[Livia]

The rainbow was a symbol of hope during the pandemic. Maybe it was an anti-vaxxer!

[Mystic Mock]

This is interesting as are the views on it expressed here too.

No one knows who did this, therefore it can only be assumptions as to why whoever did.
However it would appear no other benches were painted over, only this one with a rainbow pattern on it.
I'd say it's fair to assume in that case, that since the rainbow image IS associated with the gay communities, that the probable reason for this rainbow imaged bench being painted over, was from a more likely homophobic thinking and action.

As to comments about plaques on benches, I've sat on benches and not even realised there was a plaque on them.
I'd doubt anyone seeing the rainbow and being probably more homophobic would even read the plaque anyhow.
However IF it wasn't done from a prejudicial homophobic thinking, then why on earth would anyone else even think about painting over this bench, never mind actually doing so.

I agree Joey.

I personally wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some 30 year old Anime fan who sees two guys being friends as "gay" in the town, who saw the bench and thought that it was a Pride Bench and then decided to vandalize it.

[Crimson Dynamo]

New suspect in this case has been announced

https://www.artcollectorz.com/assets/managed/images/cache/ACUIGAAA6QA7IAIAAAAAB5AB6QA7777774AAAAAA4AA6AAIA.j pg

[Mystic Mock]

The rainbow was a symbol of hope during the pandemic. Maybe it was an anti-vaxxer!

:laugh:

[Cherie]

Most Homophobia comes from Religious people imo.

oi you only fat old white people of faith....probably male, bald, with a beer gut wobbling around with a can of paint in the dead of night

[Mystic Mock]

oi you only fat old white people of faith....probably male, bald, with a beer gut wobbling around with a can of paint in the dead of night

Don't forget tattoos all over their body.:laugh:

[Livia]

Don't forget tattoos all over their body.:laugh:

Mock! You inkophobe....

[Maru]

I agree Joey.

I personally wouldn't be surprised if there isn't some 30 year old Anime fan who sees two guys being friends as "gay" in the town, who saw the bench and thought that it was a Pride Bench and then decided to vandalize it.

Usually it's the anime folk here who are less homophobic. And yeah, they're getting up there in years. 30yrs is generous, in some cases.

[Maru]

New suspect in this case has been announced

https://www.artcollectorz.com/assets/managed/images/cache/ACUIGAAA6QA7IAIAAAAAB5AB6QA7777774AAAAAA4AA6AAIA.j pg

flSmiIne-4k

[Glenn.]

Oops, I may need to clarify my position more.

I did say in my post we don't know WHO did this.
As to the individual or individuals identity we don't.
However just about all the rest of my post was indicating this blacking out of the rainbow design of this bench was more than likely done from homophobic thinking and actions.
In my view, the weight in favour of that is extremely strong, indeed overwhelming.

I say again, WHY would any person or persons even think of blacking out the rainbow design of this bench, never mind actually ending up doing so, UNLESS those doing it ARE homophobic.
I can only answer myself one way as to that, which is, because he/she/they ARE.

:clap1:

[Mystic Mock]

Mock! You inkophobe....

:laugh:

Seriously though, one phobia that I think that I'm starting to develop is a fear of American blonde women in Music.:worry:

95% of them look alike.

[Mystic Mock]

Usually it's the anime folk here who are less homophobic. And yeah, they're getting up there in years. 30yrs is generous, in some cases.

Older generation Anime fans are cool tbf.

As are women Anime fans and most Battle Shounen fans.

It's the Anime Elitist and Incel sides of the community that are my issue currently with Anime fans, and the latter side of it do fall under saying a lot of Homophobic stuff on MAL.

[Maru]

Older generation Anime fans are cool tbf.

As are women Anime fans and most Battle Shounen fans.

It's the Anime Elitist and Incel sides of the community that are my issue currently with Anime fans, and the latter side of it do fall under saying a lot of Homophobic stuff on MAL.

Relevant pic attached

https://i.postimg.cc/3JTNR4kn/516590758-24326215373649831-7775134213832714057-n.jpg

I still think that's one of the most LGBT-friendly parts of the "community" (*gag*), but I'm not that deeply involved in any of it :laugh:. The anime-loving demographic does have a pedophilia problem though for the obvious... I'm going to a convention soon though, so I'll be on the lookout for suspiciously painted benches, vandals and other signs of overtly rampant homophobia... it'll certainly give me something extra to do.

[Mystic Mock]

Relevant pic attached

https://i.postimg.cc/3JTNR4kn/516590758-24326215373649831-7775134213832714057-n.jpg

I still think that's one of the most LGBT-friendly parts of the "community" (*gag*), but I'm not that deeply involved in any of it :laugh:. The anime-loving demographic does have a pedophilia problem though for the obvious... I'm going to a convention soon though, so I'll be on the lookout for suspiciously painted benches, vandals and other signs of overtly rampant homophobia... it'll certainly give me something extra to do.

Good luck when you go, hopefully you'll have a great time.

I do agree with you on the Paedophilia problem within Anime, it makes it incredibly hard for me to find good Anime because of it nowadays.

I do still love Anime as a medium, it's why I get so annoyed when I see the current state that it's in.

I have been reading the Manga to Bleach recently (Admittedly at a very slow pace lol,) but I'm enjoying that a fair bit at the minute.

[Glenn.]

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250708/eb44b23ea5c89390cc3a30c99377505f.jpg


The chair of an LGTBQ+ group has praised a community's "heartwarming" response after its Pride-themed bench was set on fire in a suspected arson attack.

The colourful bench on Windmill Hill in Hitchin was set on fire between Monday evening and Tuesday morning.

The local Pride group, North Herts Pride, set up a fundraising page for the bench to be repaired and reached its fundraising target within just two hours.

Kit Rees, chair of the group, told ITV News Anglia that the community response had been "fantastic".

"It has turned more into a thing that's brought us closer together and has proved to be a somewhat more positive thing than the initial destruction," they said.

"I think that if I was to say anything to the people that did it, then I would probably say thanks because you've just made us all stronger. And also, get a grip.

"Our community is fantastic, we've had so much support so swiftly.

"There is absolutely nothing this community will not do to support each other and this act has proved that.

"What we suppose is an act of hate has just brought to the surface so much love."

Police have launched an investigation and are appealing for any witnesses to get in touch.

[Glenn.]

These homophobes really don’t like benches huh? So fragile of them.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Looks like it may have been struck by lightning!

[Cherie]

Vandalising park equipment is a national sport whatever it represents


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c0qg5lx3le0o

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c4njngwek11o

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think the problem is under 18 kids more than anything else

probably high on street drugs like cannabis

[Glenn.]

Nothing says “national sport” like targeted arson rooted in bigotry. The mental gymnastics you’re doing to avoid calling it what it is—homophobia—is almost impressive. Almost.

[BBXX]

These homophobes really don’t like benches huh? So fragile of them.

Maybe they think “sitting on wood” will make them gay. :laugh:

[Glenn.]

Maybe they think “sitting on wood” will make them gay. :laugh:


Who knows? They’re so thick.

[Glenn.]

Its funny that you are trying to imply that ONLY benches dedicated to your community are targetted when that is not the case at all, any bench is up for grabs whatever it represents, you can deny it all you like but the evidence is everywhere

No one’s claiming only Pride benches ever get vandalised. The point is this one was deliberately torched because it represented the LGBTQ+ community.

[Livia]

What's funny? :conf:



Over the last ten years Jewish graves have been desecrated, headstones smashed or daubed with swastikas. Jewish graves in the UK, London, Manchester, Kent, Belfast.... I mean... When this was mentioned before I remember being told by one of TiBB's gay community that it was probably just high spirits.

What's funny is the "breaking windows in a synagogue" line used to reinforce your point, when anti-Semitic acts have been excused time and again on here particularly (but not solely) by some members of TiBB's gay community. Now you're using it to reinforce your point. I am criticised for calling out anti-Semitism by people who aren't clear in their head what it is - racism - then accused of being a racist myself when I criticise Islam and its misogynistic, homophobic, murderous doctrines. Honestly, this place.

[BBXX]

What's funny is the "breaking windows in a synagogue" line used to reinforce your point, when anti-Semitic acts have been excused time and again on here particularly (but not solely) by some members of TiBB's gay community. Now you're using it to reinforce your point. I am criticised for calling out anti-Semitism by people who aren't clear in their head what it is - racism - then accused of being a racist myself when I criticise Islam and its misogynistic, homophobic, murderous doctrines. Honestly, this place.

Oh dear, Livia. You understand I was speaking as a general sense, within wider society, and not within the confines of just TiBB and one of its gay members, right?

A few bad opinions of some forum members who happen to be gay doesn't determine the opinions of entire demographics of people, just like a few extremists throwing gays of buildings in the Middle East doesn't determine the actions of entire demographic of people.

You continue to paint entire demographics with broad brush strokes based on limited experience with a handful and honestly, it makes your opinions look extremely narrow-minded.

[Livia]

Oh dear, Livia. You understand I was speaking as a general sense, within wider society, and not within the confines of just TiBB and one of its gay members, right?

A few bad opinions of some forum members who happen to be gay doesn't determine the opinions of entire demographics of people, just like a few extremists throwing gays of buildings in the Middle East doesn't determine the actions of entire demographic of people.

You continue to paint entire demographics with broad brush strokes based on limited experience with a handful and honestly, it makes your opinions look extremely narrow-minded.

Oh dear BBXX, you picked the Jewish community to demonstrate your point despite the fact that Jews are castigated on this forum and the people who say the worst things get away with it. I've had my heritage, even my family ridiculed quite recently, the posts are probably still there because it's acceptable, it seems. Israel, you see. But hey, if it helps you make your point that the gay community face bigotry, you dig into it.

Oh, it's just a few extremists who kill gays in the Middle East, is it. Islam isn't anti-gay at all, right? Actually, they feel the same about Jews and gays, I am aware how they feel about my people, I'm surprised you don't know more about it yourself.

I'll close by saying honestly, all this for a bench. Broken gravestones with swastikas? High spirits. A vandalised bench? Homophobia.

[BBXX]

Oh dear BBXX, you picked the Jewish community to demonstrate your point despite the fact that Jews are castigated on this forum and the people who say the worst things get away with it. I've had my heritage, even my family ridiculed quite recently, the posts are probably still there because it's acceptable, it seems. Israel, you see. But hey, if it helps you make your point that the gay community face bigotry, you dig into it.

I'm talking specifically about society in general, not this forum. I understand the world is a scary place for Jewish people currently, but my point remains - if there is an incident on something that symbolises a particular demographic, it's usually seen (by and large by society) as an attack on that demographic, rather than random. Whether it be a synagogue, a pride symbol, a church, whatever it may be.

Oh, it's just a few extremists who kill gays in the Middle East, is it. Islam isn't anti-gay at all, right? Actually, they feel the same about Jews and gays, I am aware how they feel about my people, I'm surprised you don't know more about it yourself.

I am aware Islam's attitudes towards homosexuality and have condemned it multiple times. People being throw off buildings is not a regular occurrence, it's an extreme one, and that doesn't make it okay but I'm saying that just because someone who follows Islam might condemn homosexuals it doesn't mean they would kill them. The same with any faith, and we shouldn't act like they would until they do. In the same way that some who follow Islam have enacted terror attacks, the vast majority have not and so they shouldn't all be views as potential terrorists.

I'll close by saying honestly, all this for a bench. Broken gravestones with swastikas? High spirits. A vandalised bench? Homophobia.

Not sure what this has to do with me, I've never endorsed that opinion.

[Livia]

I'm talking specifically about society in general, not this forum. I understand the world is a scary place for Jewish people currently, but my point remains - if there is an incident on something that symbolises a particular demographic, it's usually seen (by and large by society) as an attack on that demographic, rather than random. Whether it be a synagogue, a pride symbol, a church, whatever it may be.



I am aware Islam's attitudes towards homosexuality and have condemned it multiple times. People being throw off buildings is not a regular occurrence, it's an extreme one, and that doesn't make it okay but I'm saying that just because someone who follows Islam might condemn homosexuals it doesn't mean they would kill them. The same with any faith, and we shouldn't act like they would until they do. In the same way that some who follow Islam have enacted terror attacks, the vast majority have not and so they shouldn't all be views as potential terrorists.



Not sure what this has to do with me, I've never endorsed that opinion.


Gays being thrown off roofs is not an every day occurrence for gay people in Islam. Usually it's arrests, beatings, imprisonments, hanging, isolation from their families, no constitutional or employment protection... but hey, at least they don't get their benches painted. Go Islam...

[BBXX]

Gays being thrown off roofs is not an every day occurrence for gay people in Islam. Usually it's arrests, beatings, imprisonments, hanging, isolation from their families, no constitutional or employment protection... but hey, at least they don't get their benches painted. Go Islam...

You keep insinuating I support Islam. Please stop, I've condemned it over and over again.

[Livia]

You keep insinuating I support Islam. Please stop, I've condemned it over and over again.

No one thinks you support Islam. But you do make excuses for it and attempt to minimise their atrocities.

Done with this thread now.

[BBXX]

No one thinks you support Islam. But you do make excuses for it and attempt to minimise their atrocities.

Done with this thread now.

I appreciate you're done, and so am I, but I do want to just clarify my stance on this. I don't excuse Islam, but I do give those who follow it the benefit of the doubt until they give me a reason to do otherwise, the same as I do for all religions.

I am signalling the difference between the religion and the religious.

[rusticgal]

Keeping it simple...a bench painted as a Rainbow in a park for strangers to sit and talk just about sums up this country at the moment. We teach our children not to speak to strangers and despite all good intentions of the Bench there are plenty of groups for lonely people to go to instead of speaking to some random stranger in a Park....bizarre.

[Niamh.]

Deleted some posts in here, I will be banning people from the thread if you carry on insulting each other

[Glenn.]

Keeping it simple...a bench painted as a Rainbow in a park for strangers to sit and talk just about sums up this country at the moment. We teach our children not to speak to strangers and despite all good intentions of the Bench there are plenty of groups for lonely people to go to instead of speaking to some random stranger in a Park....bizarre.

I think the whole point of the bench is that sometimes a small gesture, like a colourful seat inviting conversation, can mean a lot to someone who’s struggling. It’s not about forcing people to talk to strangers, it’s about reminding people they’re not alone.

Calling that bizarres says more about how cynical things have become than it does about the bench itself.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Keeping it simple...a bench painted as a Rainbow in a park for strangers to sit and talk just about sums up this country at the moment. We teach our children not to speak to strangers and despite all good intentions of the Bench there are plenty of groups for lonely people to go to instead of speaking to some random stranger in a Park....bizarre.

Its some hairbrained virtue signalling leftist councillor idea no doubt who has never set foot in a park in her life

:joker:

[Glenn.]

Do we know it’s a woman or was that just more dismissal?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Do we know it’s a woman or was that just more dismissal?

well you seem to know the motivation without question so...


:hee:

[Glenn.]

well you seem to know the motivation without question so...


:hee:

Ah, so now it’s “must’ve been a woman who placed the bench,” as if that somehow makes it less meaningful. Just another way to chip away at it without actually saying anything. Your respect for women seems to come and go. Fiercely performative when you’re using them to take aim at trans people, but oddly absent the rest of the time.

But hey, don’t let consistency get in the way of a good sneer.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ah, so now it’s “must’ve been a woman who placed the bench,” as if that somehow makes it less meaningful. Just another way to chip away at it without actually saying anything. Your respect for women seems to come and go. Fiercely performative when you’re using them to take aim at trans people, but oddly absent the rest of the time.

But hey, don’t let consistency get in the way of a good sneer.

way to totally miss the point :laugh:

[Glenn.]

You’ve spent the whole time in this thread trolling. Added literally nothing of worth but I’m the one who’s missed the point?

Ok bruh

[Glenn.]

The bench has been restored!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3d11l112vlo.amp

I genuinely hope the moron who torched the bench sees the news coverage and realises what a complete idiot they were. Congratulations, you didn’t just commit a hate crime, you also got the wrong bench.

Maybe next time, before letting their fragile phobia of colours send them into a rage spiral, do a bit of research. Learn what that rainbow actually stands for instead of throwing a tantrum over something they clearly don’t understand.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The bench has been restored!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c3d11l112vlo.amp

I genuinely hope the moron who torched the bench sees the news coverage and realises what a complete idiot they were. Congratulations, you didn’t just commit a hate crime, you also got the wrong bench.

Maybe next time, before letting their fragile phobia of colours send them into a rage spiral, do a bit of research. Learn what that rainbow actually stands for instead of throwing a tantrum over something they clearly don’t understand.

er the person painted over it she never torched it

are you on about the same bench?

[Glenn.]

Well there is so many vandalised benches in this thread.

The one that the homophobe painted completely black has been restored