PM Starmer plans Manatory Digital ID Cards (Will Be Free)

[arista]

Sky News Text :
[Starmer is weighing up digital identity cards
for UK citizens as a measure against
Channel crossings, sources tell The i Paper.]


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ID Cards for all, you say.

[bots]

a further step into authoritarianism. Every measure he implements reduces everyones freedoms. Yet again, it's the GBP that suffer, the migrants will be deported

[Cherie]

If someone knowingly employs an illegal, how will ID cards make any difference they will just employ them anyway :shrug: what the hell is going on, there are a myriad of ways they could stop the boats ID cards are not one of them

[joeysteele]

Oh dear me how.

[Crimson Dynamo]

terrible idea

every day this failed government gets worse and more dangerous

[arista]

Oh dear me how.

Macron has advised
PM Starmer


Reports are saying.

[Vanessa]

When did the UK turn into North Korea?

[Glenn.]

CCTV on every street, facial recognition in shops, and your phone tracking you 24/7. An ID card isn’t some big step into dictatorship, it’s just another bit of plastic in your wallet.

[bots]

CCTV on every street, facial recognition in shops, and your phone tracking you 24/7. An ID card isn’t some big step into dictatorship, it’s just another bit of plastic in your wallet.

the whole way privacy is destroyed is by picking up fragments of information on you and then joining them together to get a fuller picture. There is CCTV in big towns/city's but the majority of the country is cctv free. Not many shops round my way have cctv. My phone doesn't track me, thats easy to do

Every piece of information you give up, is a step tn the wrong direction. Why do you think 99% of porn viewers in the uk are bypassing age verification

[arista]

CCTV on every street, facial recognition in shops, and your phone tracking you 24/7. An ID card isn’t some big step into dictatorship, it’s just another bit of plastic in your wallet.


No, it's on your Mobile Phone


Only to go on a card for any they do not
need (or can not use)
a mobile (some old folks/ or disabled)

[Cherie]

CCTV on every street, facial recognition in shops, and your phone tracking you 24/7. An ID card isn’t some big step into dictatorship, it’s just another bit of plastic in your wallet.

What benefit will it bring, what will it cost, why can't they use NI numbers, the country is 50 billion in debt what a waste of money

[Barry.]

What if you are in the witness protection group? I don’t see how that’d work

[Cherie]

So there is already a card you can apply for if you want to prove identity and age

https://www.citizencard.com/what-is-a-citizencard

why not just give these free to illegals, they get everything else free so this shouldn't be difficult...?

[arista]

So there is already a card you can apply for if you want to prove identity and age

https://www.citizencard.com/what-is-a-citizencard

why not just give these free to illegals, they get everything else free so this shouldn't be difficult...?


The Title says Digital ID
You do understand it will be on your Mobile Phone

[Cherie]

The Title says Digital ID
You do understand it will be on your Mobile Phone

What benefit will it be to the ordinary citizen

I already have a Passport, a Driving Licence and and NI number and an NHS number what else do I need to have and why

[Livia]

What benefit will it be to the ordinary citizen

I already have a Passport, a Driving Licence and and NI number and an NHS number what else do I need to have and why

Me too! My driving licence and work ID are always with me.

If the IDs are going to be digital, will they provide a phone for those who haven't got one? Maybe offer them the choice of an iPhone or a Samsung.

[Cherie]

Me too! My driving licence and work ID is always with me.

If the IDs are going to be digital, will they provide a phone for those who haven't got one? Maybe offer them the choice of an iPhone or a Samsung.

I will have an Iphone 16 please

I wouldn't mind but this is supposed to prevent illegals from working, like taking a hammer to crack a nut

Nice to see you back Livia were you on your hols

[arista]

What benefit will it be to the ordinary citizen

I already have a Passport, a Driving Licence and and NI number and an NHS number what else do I need to have and why


It will be a Fast information
link
on it.

[arista]

Me too! My driving licence and work ID are always with me.

If the IDs are going to be digital, will they provide a phone for those who haven't got one? Maybe offer them the choice of an iPhone or a Samsung.


No, they can not afford that.


So those people will have an ID Card (yet to be set up)

[arista]

PM Starmer spoke to the BBC today.

He claimed this nation has moved on from 20 years ago

He is going for the Digital ID Card

[arista]

Labour Together said they should be mandatory,
universal
and free of charge.


OK Cherie - no cost to you

[Cherie]

Labour Together said they should be mandatory,
universal
and free of charge.


OK Cherie - no cost to you

Well there is a cost to me because its tax that will be paying for it, we dont need them, its a waste of money, if they had plenty money in the tank then it might not be an issue but they are 50 billion in debt

[bots]

the only way digital id's will be effective is if police stop and check people on the streets. Is that the way we want the country to go?

[MTVN]

Tbh I don't see the problem with them. Most countries now have some form of ID cards

People will violently oppose this then provide all sorts of identifiable and traceable data every time they use the internet

[Beso]

Tbh I don't see the problem with them. Most countries now have some form of ID cards

People will violently oppose this then provide all sorts of identifiable and traceable data every time they use the internet




They are meaningless unless you look 17 when you are 24.


Only other good use for them I can think of is to prove your ID for betting sites. But thats a negative thing


Maybe saves a the cost of a full passport for people just flying around the UK, but that's about it.


Waste of time and money. A bit like himself.

[arista]

PM Starmer wants Digital ID cards
It was debated today on BBC2HD Politics Live.

On your Mobile Phone.

Nothing as yet, for any other cards

[arista]

Digital ID to be made Law for all Adults in the UK


Mandatory

[bots]

how much will it cost the taxpayer

[arista]

how much will it cost the taxpayer


Not as much as a Real Printed Card


I assume it could be an online Form.

[arista]

[All adults will be issued with digital ID cards under plans
by Sir Keir Starmer to tackle illegal immigration.
The Prime Minister is expected to announce as
early as Friday
his backing in principle for a so-called
“Brit card” designed to combat illegal migrants
working in the black economy.]


2 hours ago

[Cherie]

Not as much as a Real Printed Card


I assume it could be an online Form.

Look how much the bleeding NHS app cost, this is going to cost a fortune as per

[Cherie]

[All adults will be issued with digital ID cards under plans
by Sir Keir Starmer to tackle illegal immigration.
The Prime Minister is expected to announce as
early as Friday
his backing in principle for a so-called
“Brit card” designed to combat illegal migrants
working in the black economy.]


2 hours ago

Can someone explain the reasoning behind this, is he saying the employers dont know they are illegal, there is such a thing as an NI number.... or ILR cards or any number of ways people can confirm their legitimacy to work in the UK, this man is an absolute farce of a PM

[Cherie]

The cost of ID cards to taxpayers can vary significantly based on the type and implementation of the ID system. For example, a proposed UK digital ID card is estimated to cost between £140 and £400 million. Another estimate suggests that the total cost could be over £18 billion, or approximately €435 per inhabitant. These figures highlight the substantial financial implications of introducing ID cards for the public.

This was not in their manifesto they are foisting stuff on us that no body voted for

[Beso]

Brit cards. The cheeky bastard.

[arista]

[This was not in their manifesto they are foisting stuff
on us that no body voted for]

PM Starmer will tell you tomorrow.
It will be your safety etc.

[Beso]

I've just spent 36 quid on a citizen card so I could withdraw some cash from a casino.


This better be free.

[arista]

It is on your Mobile Phone.

[Cherie]

I've just spent 36 quid on a citizen card so I could withdraw some cash from a casino.


This better be free.

You will be paying with tax so it's not free

[Cherie]

[This was not in their manifesto they are foisting stuff
on us that no body voted for]

PM Starmer will tell you tomorrow.
It will be your safety etc.

How will an identity card keep me safe

[thesheriff443]

Criminals will just forge them like they do passports
Like they say, a lock only keeps honest people out

[Zizu]

Criminals will just forge them like they do passports
Like they say, a lock only keeps honest people out


Hallelujah


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[Beso]

It is on your Mobile Phone.

So we have to have one of those as well?

Are they free?

For me!

[bots]

It can't be on a phone because not everyone has a phone

[arista]

How will an identity card keep me safe


PM Starmer tells us tomorrow

[arista]

It can't be on a phone because not everyone has a phone


Yes, for those without a Mobile Phone

They will have to do a plastic card
with an internal chip.

[Beso]

Yes, for those without a Mobile Phone

They will have to do a plastic card

I've got id already..36 quids worth. I'm not updating my contract.

Goodbye.

[Cherie]

PM Starmer tells us tomorrow

:joker:

[MTVN]

He's so politically deaf. He's already incredibly unpopular and chooses now to unveil a policy which has been an anti-establishment lightning rod for years. A popular government would struggle to get this through, never mind one on the ropes

And I don't even mind the policy really! It's just shocking judgement to do it now

[bots]

I have recently had to provide additional ID information to Companies House because they now demand stricter details. If your ID is on a phone or a card, it means that you can be tracked wherever you are and what ever you are doing.

Will the police automatically lock up people without ID? Is that what a free society looks like?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Cant believe im agreeing with the lib tards :shocked:

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[Mystic Mock]

It's sad that the current Labour party wants their legacy to be that they've turned the party into INGSOC.

It's genuinely a very tragic day not just for Labour and it's voters who have no party to confidently rely on, but for the UK too, as we have no decent parties available to us currently.

[Mystic Mock]

Digital ID to be made Law for all Adults in the UK


Mandatory

What happens if someone steals your phone?

[Crimson Dynamo]

Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer

2:42 PM · Jul 29, 2020

The Government’s plans on voter ID risk locking people out of democracy.

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https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1288469983857696769

[Cherie]

Starmer is trolling us now sure, the only benefit is that we dont have to go hunting for an old utility bill

“Digital ID is an enormous opportunity for the UK. It will make it tougher to work illegally in this country, making our borders more secure.

“And it will also offer ordinary citizens countless benefits, like being able to prove your identity to access key services swiftly – rather than hunting around for an old utility bill.”

The plans envisage ID cards being stored on devices in the same way contactless payment cards or the NH

https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/uknews/starmer-says-digital-id-cards-will-be-enormous-opportunity-for-uk/ar-AA1NkD0y?ocid=msedgntp&pc=LCTS&cvid=72e7d773caad47fdc5bf5d9f0adabae0&ei=14S App are.

[MTVN]

People can download utility bills in seconds now online, downloading a digital ID isn't much more convenient

[Cherie]

People can download utility bills in seconds now online, downloading a digital ID isn't much more convenient

Exactly :laugh: he obviously never pays a bill so doesn't realise they are all online now as well as bank statements and practically everything you need to prove identity, the man is a total mess

[Mystic Mock]

People can download utility bills in seconds now online, downloading a digital ID isn't much more convenient

He is struggling for a good excuse to implement this dystopian idea.

The only defense that I can give him is that I don't believe that it's his idea, but the fact that he is going along with it is incredibly poor form from him imo.

[Cherie]

Countless benefits, I can see his pained whiney face now trying to sell this to the British public

[Cherie]

Keir Starmer
@Keir_Starmer

2:42 PM · Jul 29, 2020

The Government’s plans on voter ID risk locking people out of democracy.

https://pbs.twimg.com/card_img/1968914320869183489/5OU3MOMZ?format=jpg&name=small

https://x.com/Keir_Starmer/status/1288469983857696769

Mess

[arista]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

Digital ID announcement is an idea from the shady Labour Together, the very organisation
embroiled in the latest Downing Street sleaze scandal involving the PM's own Chief of
Staff.

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[Cherie]

Illegals are not coming to slip into the shadows, if they were there would be no hotels full of them, they are coming to be put up at tax payers expense AND in some cases to work in the the black economy and this wont stop any of that, as employers are acutely aware they are illegal, the man is nuts

[Cherie]

More detail, will be mandatory for everyone to have but will only be used when applying for a job :laugh3:

[bots]

More detail, will be mandatory for everyone to have but will only be used when applying for a job :laugh3:

As an OAP i shouldn't need one then :laugh:

[joeysteele]

No, this isn't something I can support.

[arista]

Lisa Nandy MP, Culture Secretary
confirmed the Digital ID is free of charge,

[bots]

Lisa Nandy MP, Culture Secretary
confirmed the Digital ID is free of charge,

but its not free of charge because tax payers will be funding it

[arista]

As an OAP i shouldn't need one then :laugh:


They say you will
as if you are asked to show it
on your mobile phone
You will be able.

[joeysteele]

but its not free of charge because tax payers will be funding it

Well it's NOT free if anyone elderly or anyone really who doesn't have say a smartphone..
Then has to go the expense of getting such a device, plus the ongoing costs.

That's a cost to have it,.they wouldn't have likely ever had.
I'm actually stunned at Nandy supporting this anyhow.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Does anyone think that if Labour had included this in their manifesto before the last election, they would have won?

Cut Winter Fuel Allowance
Surrender Chagos
Assisted Suicide
Farmer’s Inheritance Tax
Higher council tax bills
Welfare cuts for the disabled
Betraying fishing communities
Higher energy bills
Digital ID

no neither do I

hence why they lied about it

[Oliver_W]

If it really is about the illegals, why not take their biometrics? Fingerprint, eyescan, whatever.

Would cost a lot less money, and surrender a lot less privacy.

[Crimson Dynamo]

If it really is about the illegals, why not take their biometrics? Fingerprint, eyescan, whatever.

Would cost a lot less money, and surrender a lot less privacy.

what would cost a lot less if getting the Navy to intercept every boat and dump the occupants back in France

[arista]

If it really is about the illegals, why not take their biometrics? Fingerprint, eyescan, whatever.

Would cost a lot less money, and surrender a lot less privacy.



Yes, those are down the Road.

[arista]

Well it's NOT free if anyone elderly or anyone really who doesn't have say a smartphone..
Then has to go the expense of getting such a device, plus the ongoing costs.

That's a cost to have it,.they wouldn't have likely ever had.
I'm actually stunned at Nandy supporting this anyhow.


PM Starmer will have to set that out.

How any without a smartphone
will be helped

[bots]

Labour wanted to introduce ID cards when they were last in power pre 2010 , so this has nothing to do with illegal immigration. They want to increase the amount of data they have on every adult in the country and they can then use AI to profile every single one of us with incredible accuracy. Not only will they know where you are always, they know from your profile what you are likely doing at any given point in the day. Be in no doubt, this really is scary ****

[thesheriff443]

Margret thatcher warned of this very problem with immigration the same as Enoch Powell
We are being invaded

[bots]

They say you will
as if you are asked to show it
on your mobile phone
You will be able.


it's been confirmed that pensioners will not need it

[arista]

PM Starmer due to go Live around 11AM

[Cherie]

They say you will
as if you are asked to show it
on your mobile phone
You will be able.

No they said people would only need it for applying for work, that is what Lisa Nandy said this morning when questioned, also stop saying its free, that is false, you are paying via your tax

[arista]

Live Now


PM Starmer
has a clapping Labour Audience.

[arista]

Get on with the Digital ID Card

So far, he is going on about Politics

[arista]

Pathetic he Ended


Nothing NEW


Just by the end of this Parliament

[arista]

Debate Live on LBC now

[arista]

Good on SkyNewsHD

Now Live with PM Starmer and 3 other leaders
Prime Minister of Ireland
Leader of Canada
Leader of Australia

Live


Lady in the middle is the presenter

[arista]

PM Starmer is talking again

[Beso]

Does anyone think that if Labour had included this in their manifesto before the last election, they would have won?

Cut Winter Fuel Allowance
Surrender Chagos
Assisted Suicide
Farmer’s Inheritance Tax
Higher council tax bills
Welfare cuts for the disabled
Betraying fishing communities
Higher energy bills
Digital ID

no neither do I

hence why they lied about it





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[Maru]

Labour wanted to introduce ID cards when they were last in power pre 2010 , so this has nothing to do with illegal immigration. They want to increase the amount of data they have on every adult in the country and they can then use AI to profile every single one of us with incredible accuracy. Not only will they know where you are always, they know from your profile what you are likely doing at any given point in the day. Be in no doubt, this really is scary ****

Even without a sophisticated reason, modern govt just doesn't want to leave people tf alone. I remember a time when we didn't have to think constantly about what govt would or wouldn't try next.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Livia]

The petition against ID cards is now well over a million and has gone up by more than 100,000 since I got home a couple of hours ago.

Who called this government smug and tin-eared? I'd like to buy them a beer.

[Beso]

Just signed the petition.

[Cherie]

Signed

[Maru]

This appeared in my feed. I guess they're reading my activity on TiBB (joke).

-Et1CeLGi4s

[Crimson Dynamo]

We already have digital IDs to ensure migrants have the right to work here.

Any foreign employee needs to get a share code on their E-Visa account and
give it to the employer to check on a system.

If an employer doesn’t get a share code, they’re breaking the law.

We don’t need digital ID. What’s the real reason behind Starmer’s push for
digital ID?

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[bots]

The government is already unpopular and it chooses this moment to start talking about digital id. There is more to this than meets the eye. It's not about illegal immigration. It's about forcing the governments will on the people. No-one should be ok with this

[Crimson Dynamo]

The government is already unpopular and it chooses this moment to start talking about digital id. There is more to this than meets the eye. It's not about illegal immigration. It's about forcing the governments will on the people. No-one should be ok with this

and of course its not their decision its from their IMF overlords

i will not be participating in this scam

Is anyone on here now prepared to say they are glad they voted Labour??

[Crimson Dynamo]

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BlackBeltBarrister
7 hours ago
Let's get this straight.
Starmer implements mandatory Digital ID
Do you comply?

30,000 votes so far

no votes: 97%

[Cherie]

Had to laugh at Starmer saying we will be issuing FREE id cards, like he was paying from his own pocket....its like they get together every week to discuss how they can make themselves even more unpopular, no money for services but the magic money tree will be given a shake for this

[Cal.]

Appaz France already have these and they have a worse migrant problem than us

What are these REALLY for? If they think I'm paying any taxes theyve another thing coming.

[Zizu]

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[Crimson Dynamo]

The absolute idiot only got community noted :facepalm:

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[Cherie]

Appaz France already have these and they have a worse migrant problem than us

What are these REALLY for? If they think I'm paying any taxes theyve another thing coming.

:love:

[Ammi]

…I mean, all that type of information that would make us vulnerable…all on one lil digital space…a scammers/hackers dream come true, really…oh dear, Keir..how those scammers and hackers love you..especially as all of the police services etc have been cut back to the bone as well…Young hacking hearts run free…

[arista]

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[Ammi]

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…Keir, get outta ma Labour Party…?…

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[Livia]

Petition against ID cards is up to 1.7 million signatures this morning.

[Zizu]

Another totally useless idea which will cost the taxpayer zillions .. the people it’s supposed to target will just end up paying the criminals for fake ID


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[Crimson Dynamo]

Boris Johnson
BorisJohnson
·
19h
I will never accept a government ID card. I will never use one. If asked to produce one I
will refuse - and I hope you do, too

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[Livia]

People who employ illegals, pay them less than minimum wage, pay no NI for them, will continue to pay them out of the hat. ID cards won't make any difference to them.

[bots]

No-one believes the government on it being to combat illegal immigration. To me, this is feeling like the poll tax under thatcher or the laws at the latter stages of covid

[Crimson Dynamo]

Its a really odd hill for this Labour Government to die on

[Benjamin]

People who employ illegals, pay them less than minimum wage, pay no NI for them, will continue to pay them out of the hat. ID cards won't make any difference to them.

My thoughts exactly. Unsure how the government think this will reduce illegal workers.

[Zizu]

Boris Johnson
BorisJohnson
·
19h
I will never accept a government ID card. I will never use one. If asked to produce one I
will refuse - and I hope you do, too

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Gotta love Boris ..


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[Zizu]

My thoughts exactly. Unsure how the government think this will reduce illegal workers.


Just one more example of the ineptitude of political ( whatever the party)


I think this political system has been flawed for over half a century ..


Wish someone would come up with an alternative to politicians running the country


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[Alf]

CCTV on every street, facial recognition in shops, and your phone tracking you 24/7. An ID card isn’t some big step into dictatorship, it’s just another bit of plastic in your wallet.What if they can control your bank and your money if they don't agree with what you say or think? Like Trudeau did in Canada during Covid protests.

What if a right-wing government gets in and takes on that power for them to use?

[AnnieK]

Ive just had a chat with someone who believes these digital IDs are just the stepping stone to a digital currency. The Gov will say the cards aren't working as illegal workers are still being paid cash in hand and so will move to make us cashless and then be able to control everyones money etc.....he thinks after that there will be carbon credits etc etc
He is a little bit of a conspiracy theorist....but I suppose its not a huge stretch to think it is the start of a slippery slope

[arista]

People who employ illegals, pay them less than minimum wage, pay no NI for them, will continue to pay them out of the hat. ID cards won't make any difference to them.



Valid Points

[Cherie]

Even the illegals know it wont work, there was a Pakastani Chef interviewed being paid 5.00 a hour in a takeaway, his boss is not going to suddenly start paying tax and NI and a pension .... Starmer is a very dangerous individual

[Cherie]

Ive just had a chat with someone who believes these digital IDs are just the stepping stone to a digital currency. The Gov will say the cards aren't working as illegal workers are still being paid cash in hand and so will move to make us cashless and then be able to control everyones money etc.....he thinks after that there will be carbon credits etc etc
He is a little bit of a conspiracy theorist....but I suppose its not a huge stretch to think it is the start of a slippery slope

Honestly I am becoming one myself

Why is Macron sticking his nose in and saying UK needs them

Why is the obvious pull factor for migrants of free housing, food, clothes, phones, spending money, along with a raft of freebies just carrying on unabated

[BBXX]

Yes, this is absolutely the stepping stone to digital currency and probably to some kind of social credit score. It's interesting they've used the 'migrant crisis' as a reason and would make sense why the media has put a target on migrants backs... it's textbook manipulation: create a fear of something and then bring in the 'fix' to allow people to accept it.

My thinking is they would have done this during Covid but they underestimated how skeptical people became so quickly and knew it wouldn't pass. But the scaremongering about a Glastonbury field of migrants coming into the country in the last 6 years has done the trick.

[Cherie]

Yes, this is absolutely the stepping stone to digital currency and probably to some kind of social credit score. It's interesting they've used the 'migrant crisis' as a reason and would make sense why the media has put a target on migrants backs... it's textbook manipulation: create a fear of something and then bring in the 'fix' to allow people to accept it.

My thinking is they would have done this during Covid but they underestimated how skeptical people became so quickly and knew it wouldn't pass. But the scaremongering about a Glastonbury field of migrants coming into the country in the last 6 years has done the trick.

Eh how has it done the trick? No one believes this will stop the boats :laugh: and I dont know anyone who wants it apart from Glenn

[BBXX]

Eh how has it done the trick? No one believes this will stop the boats :laugh: and I dont know anyone who wants it apart from Glenn

Sorry, I mean it's done the trick stirring up unreasonable fear.

Yet again though they've underestimated just how against this kind of thing people are in the UK, regardless of the reason.

[Cherie]

Sorry, I mean it's done the trick stirring up unreasonable fear.

Yet again though they've underestimated just how against this kind of thing people are in the UK, regardless of the reason.


Oh I see, like literally I think Starmer thinks people are stupid, he cannot explain how it will stop the boats just faffed around talking absolute rubbish, the budget is going to be even trickier for them now if they raise taxes all hell will break loose

[Crimson Dynamo]

I think the Fabian society is playing a role here

[Glenn.]

Eh how has it done the trick? No one believes this will stop the boats :laugh: and I dont know anyone who wants it apart from Glenn

Where did I say I wanted it?

[bots]

labour mp's themselves have said this is just the beginning, it will lead to all sorts of wonderful things. I even heard 1 mp say that google and facebook were capturing users data, why should the government be left behind :laugh:

[Cherie]

CCTV on every street, facial recognition in shops, and your phone tracking you 24/7. An ID card isn’t some big step into dictatorship, it’s just another bit of plastic in your wallet.

You have nothing against it so you must want them otherwise what does this post mean?

[Glenn.]

You have nothing against it so you must want them otherwise what does this post mean?

I’ll ask again. Where did I say I wanted it?

[bots]

the id card is another method of large scale data collection. Saying other methods already exist so why complain isn't addressing the issue. Every data collection method brings new data to the table, it serves to complete the picture that the government has on everyone. It's also not sensible to only look at the implications now, it needs to be viewed in what could happen in 5 or 10 years down the line when systems are developed to take advantage of it

[Cherie]

I’ll ask again. Where did I say I wanted it?

and I will point you to your post where you said it was just another piece of plastic in your wallet, you seemed super happy about it all

I wont be engaging any further with you back and forth on this, your post is there for all to read and people can make up their own minds

[Glenn.]

and I will point you to your post where you said it was just another piece of plastic in your wallet, you seemed super happy about it all

I wont be engaging any further with you back and forth on this, your post is there for all to read and people can make up their own minds


But still can’t find where I said I wanted it…

Probably for the best. Looks like you’ve embarrassed yourself for all to read.

[Mystic Mock]

Yes, this is absolutely the stepping stone to digital currency and probably to some kind of social credit score. It's interesting they've used the 'migrant crisis' as a reason and would make sense why the media has put a target on migrants backs... it's textbook manipulation: create a fear of something and then bring in the 'fix' to allow people to accept it.

My thinking is they would have done this during Covid but they underestimated how skeptical people became so quickly and knew it wouldn't pass. But the scaremongering about a Glastonbury field of migrants coming into the country in the last 6 years has done the trick.

Except for the part where everyone is against it and will vote him out come the next General Election.

Nobody wants to be like China or Russia if you're from a so-called democratic country, Labour will find that out come 2029.

[Mystic Mock]

the id card is another method of large scale data collection. Saying other methods already exist so why complain isn't addressing the issue. Every data collection method brings new data to the table, it serves to complete the picture that the government has on everyone. It's also not sensible to only look at the implications now, it needs to be viewed in what could happen in 5 or 10 years down the line when systems are developed to take advantage of it

Exactly, what's to stop them taking it to the next level?

Nobody should accept such a dystopian policy imo.

[Livia]

Petition against ID cards almost 2.2 million. Also put this in the 'Starmer's woes' thread, sorry for the duplication.

[BBXX]

Except for the part where everyone is against it and will vote him out come the next General Election.

Nobody wants to be like China or Russia if you're from a so-called democratic country, Labour will find that out come 2029.

Yes he read the room completely incorrectly. Unsurprisingly. I feel like everything he implements is to win favour from voters rather than because he thinks it would be good for the country, which might not be the worst tactic if he could read the room but it still makes him inauthentic as ****.

[Ammi]

Yes he read the room completely incorrectly. Unsurprisingly. I feel like everything he implements is to win favour from voters rather than because he thinks it would be good for the country, which might not be the worst tactic if he could read the room but it still makes him inauthentic as ****.

…I honestly feel as though he’s not going to be the country leader for very long so might as well whizz himself up into some outrage controversy…at least it’ll be colourful than beige and give him something to chat about in interviews/books/whatever after his leadership time…I mean, if he wasn’t attracting social media/public chattering…(…for negative reasons…)…would we even know who the current PM was…

[bots]

All the current leaders around the world surround themselves with yes "people" and thats why stupid stuff ends up being done. When I look back to Thatchers cabinet, they were all intellectuals with a mind of their own. It was only in the latter years that she started ignoring everone elses opinion, but power gets to them all eventually

[Oliver_W]

Would this even get through Parliament?

[bots]

Would this even get through Parliament?

i think labour mp's will voice opposition as the numbers of public increase in opposition

[Ammi]

All the current leaders around the world surround themselves with yes "people" and thats why stupid stuff ends up being done. When I look back to Thatchers cabinet, they were all intellectuals with a mind of their own. It was only in the latter years that she started ignoring everone elses opinion, but power gets to them all eventually

…are they yes people or are they AI think tanks…maybe there is a ‘how to run a country for a week’ digital programme that has been adopted by current country leaders…

[Mystic Mock]

Yes he read the room completely incorrectly. Unsurprisingly. I feel like everything he implements is to win favour from voters rather than because he thinks it would be good for the country, which might not be the worst tactic if he could read the room but it still makes him inauthentic as ****.

Exactly on both points.

I just wish that this country could have a decent PM, just one time in my lifetime.:laugh:

[arista]

Government to consult on Digital IDs for 13-year-olds


[The government will consult on whether children
aged between 13 and 16-years-old should
be included in the digital ID roll-out.

There has been a backlash to the Prime Minister
Sir Keir Starmer's announcement that
a UK-wide digital ID scheme will be introduced
before 2029, with a petition attracting nearly three
million signatures.
An official response to that petition confirmed
the consultation will also consider whether
to make digital ID available to children
aged 13 years old and up.

Under the government plans, digital ID
will be available to all UK citizens and legal
residents but only mandatory in order to work.
It will be optional for students, pensioners
or others not seeking work.
The UK Parliament petition opposes the creation
of any national ID system and demands
the government ditch its plans,
which petitioners claim
"would be a step towards mass surveillance
and digital control".]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjvrgd48evo




[Digital ID cards could be needed to buy
a pint in the pub, as ministers are accused
of taking a 'Big Brother approach'
to civil liberties]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15181035/Digital-ID-cards-needed-buy-pint-pub-ministers-accused-taking-Big-Brother-approach-civil-liberties.html



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/10/10/13/102881295-15181035-image-a-1_1760100534128.jpg

[Cherie]

Government to consult on Digital IDs for 13-year-olds


[The government will consult on whether children
aged between 13 and 16-years-old should
be included in the digital ID roll-out.

There has been a backlash to the Prime Minister
Sir Keir Starmer's announcement that
a UK-wide digital ID scheme will be introduced
before 2029, with a petition attracting nearly three
million signatures.
An official response to that petition confirmed
the consultation will also consider whether
to make digital ID available to children
aged 13 years old and up.

Under the government plans, digital ID
will be available to all UK citizens and legal
residents but only mandatory in order to work.
It will be optional for students, pensioners
or others not seeking work.
The UK Parliament petition opposes the creation
of any national ID system and demands
the government ditch its plans,
which petitioners claim
"would be a step towards mass surveillance
and digital control".]


https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/czjvrgd48evo




[Digital ID cards could be needed to buy
a pint in the pub, as ministers are accused
of taking a 'Big Brother approach'
to civil liberties]

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15181035/Digital-ID-cards-needed-buy-pint-pub-ministers-accused-taking-Big-Brother-approach-civil-liberties.html



https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/10/10/13/102881295-15181035-image-a-1_1760100534128.jpg


Tone deaf, the petition against has to be discussed in Parliament now

Just heard a chap on the radio saying think it was China were if were not vaccinated against covid you were locked out of services all tracked courtesy of digital id....no thanks

[Mystic Mock]

They need to listen to the public for once.

[Cherie]

I thought ID cards were only to be used to apply for jobs, even though we have plenty ways of proving right to work as it stands, why do 13 year olds need them

[Mystic Mock]

I thought ID cards were only to be used to apply for jobs, even though we have plenty ways of proving right to work as it stands, why do 13 year olds need them

He can't keep his argument straight.

Which should worry everyone that lives in this country.

[Crimson Dynamo]

It's starting,food is being labelled with your daily carbon allowance information,
just a few weeks after Digital ID was announced.

Because everything will be linked to your Digital ID, including your carbon
allowance. What happens at your allowance limit for the day/week/month?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3gJK9eXsAAiLgf?format=jpg&name=small

[arista]

[Because everything will be linked to your Digital ID, including your carbon
allowance. What happens at your allowance limit for the day/week/month?]

That's a scary thought

[bots]

nanny state, they want to control everything

[Mystic Mock]

It's starting,food is being labelled with your daily carbon allowance information,
just a few weeks after Digital ID was announced.

Because everything will be linked to your Digital ID, including your carbon
allowance. What happens at your allowance limit for the day/week/month?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3gJK9eXsAAiLgf?format=jpg&name=small

Wtf?:umm2:

[Livia]

The petition against ID cards currently over 2,900,000 and rising. Sign it it you haven't already. Let the government know how deeply unpopular this is.

[arista]

Debated on the USA section GBnewsHD 1AM show

Apple in the USA have Launched a New Digital ID.

Bev went to buy her bottle of wine in DC.
she had a photo of her passport
on her mobile.
She said sorry to the Lady at till.

The Lady went to get the Manager to approve it.
Then she was able top buy her bottle of wine.

But the USA panel warned the New Apple ID
is expected to move around the World.

[Mystic Mock]

Debated on the USA section GBnewsHD 1AM show

Apple in the USA have Launched a New Digital ID.

Bev went to buy her bottle of wine in DC.
she had a photo of her passport
on her mobile.
She said sorry to the Lady at till.

The Lady went to get the Manager to approve it.
Then she was able top buy her bottle of wine.

But the USA panel warned the New Apple ID
is expected to move around the World.

And these politicians act surprised at just how hated they are by everyone.

Has there ever been a generation of Political leaders (before this lot) that so brazenly ignores the wishes of the grand majority of people on 99% of topics?

[Oliver_W]

Has there ever been a generation of Political leaders (before this lot) that so brazenly ignores the wishes of the grand majority of people on 99% of topics?

Cromwell, during the Protectorate?

[Cherie]

And these politicians act surprised at just how hated they are by everyone.

Has there ever been a generation of Political leaders (before this lot) that so brazenly ignores the wishes of the grand majority of people on 99% of topics?

In modern times...no

[Cherie]

Cromwell, during the Protectorate?

:joker:

[Cherie]

It's starting,food is being labelled with your daily carbon allowance information,
just a few weeks after Digital ID was announced.

Because everything will be linked to your Digital ID, including your carbon
allowance. What happens at your allowance limit for the day/week/month?

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3gJK9eXsAAiLgf?format=jpg&name=small

wtf

[Mystic Mock]

Cromwell, during the Protectorate?

I'm thinking on a more worldwide scale.

Because Cromwell thankfully was one leader.:laugh:

[Mystic Mock]

In modern times...no

Some of these Political leaders are evil.

I don't care if it sounds OTT to some people, these Politicians are evil bastards that get giddy with excitement at controlling people's lives and also ruining some people's lives.

And we as the public do have to take some responsibility too because we don't hold these Politicians to any standards.

[Oliver_W]

Some of these Political leaders are evil.

I don't care if it sounds OTT to some people, these Politicians are evil bastards that get giddy with excitement at controlling people's lives and also ruining some people's lives.

And we as the public do have to take some responsibility too because we don't hold these Politicians to any standards.

Evil or deeply incompetent and stupid?

I think Rachel Reeves for instance is just a dullard with no understanding of economics, or the idea of second and third order effects (consequences).

Angela Rayner is selfish and hypocritical, and not a little short sighted, but again I don't think she can be called evil.

[Mystic Mock]

Evil or deeply incompetent and stupid?

I think Rachel Reeves for instance is just a dullard with no understanding of economics, or the idea of second and third order effects (consequences).

Angela Rayner is selfish and hypocritical, and not a little short sighted, but again I don't think she can be called evil.

I do think that whoever is coming up with Digital ID's, age verification for websites that already have the parental lock option available for any parent that can be bothered to learn it, but instead the Politicians decide to want our Biometric Data because again they want to keep tabs on us all and invade our privacy, is in my view pretty evil.

Reeves and Rayner have been apart of the party that's came up with these decisions and didn't have the public's back against either of these ideas, so in my eyes they are evil people.

And I do think that the eat or heat situations that have been going on with certain families for nearly two decades by this point, makes me view the Politicians that were in high positions of both Labour and Tories through a very evil lense.

I know that the British Media will try to soften/humanize these people so that we don't view them in the same way as Trump, Putin, or Winnie The Pooh from China. But just look at most of the actions that have happened in this country domestically and internationally over the last 20 years, do the actions strike you of a nation that's in general got decent moral ethics behind it that has Politicians that care about it's people's best interests at heart?