View Full Version : Charlie Kirk assassinated at university event
Glenn.
19-09-2025, 02:50 PM
The Charlie Kirk Show ran from 2019 to 2025
6yrs. But he’s nOt a PoDcAsTeR
…Jimmy Kimmel Is someone else that I’m really not familiar with very much at all…he’s a TV host/comedian and some of his remarks and humour or whatever is very politically based and centred…?…I can’t imagine how many sackings and firings and cancelling etc there should have been from Have I Got News For You over the years, in a similar vein…
To keep it very simple, he and other night show comedians went from being comedy to just simply regularly lecturing others on their show with regard to politics. So he's often seen more like a political commentator more than an actual comedian. He's not beholden to any kind of journalistic standard and if he were on "your team", that's how one would prefer it. It's the furthest from any political platform (their party is generally untouched for any of the crazier things said) and his only limits are whatever his employer will actually tolerate.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2025, 03:47 PM
BREAKING USA: The House votes 310-58 to condemn Charlie Kirk’s assassination,
honor his legacy, and denounce political violence.
58 Democrats voted against it. Insane.
Livia
19-09-2025, 03:50 PM
BREAKING USA: The House votes 310-58 to condemn Charlie Kirk’s assassination,
honor his legacy, and denounce political violence.
58 Democrats voted against it. Insane.
Remind me, the people who voted against, are they on the Left or the Right...?
Remind me, the people who voted against, are they on the Left or the Right...?
Some people still don't comprehend that this could've easily had been any one of them.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2025, 03:56 PM
Remind me, the people who voted against, are they on the Left or the Right...?
progressive, love, incloooosive, diversity
that type of folks
:skull:
No murder is normal, but unfortunately as those stats have shown, thanks to the right-wing extremists murder has been normalised. Sad times really.
Can you explain what you mean by that?
How does the stats tie in with that statement?
To keep it very simple, he and other night show comedians went from being comedy to just simply regularly lecturing others on their show with regard to politics. So he's often seen more like a political commentator more than an actual comedian. He's not beholden to any kind of journalistic standard and if he were on "your team", that's how one would prefer it. It's the furthest from any political platform (their party is generally untouched for any of the crazier things said) and his only limits are whatever his employer will actually tolerate.
Ben Elton...from timu
Utter chaos breaks out backstage at The View over Jimmy Kimmel: Hosts at war and staff in fear... as network bosses impose strict new 'rule'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15112507/the-view-jimmy-kimmel-abc-rule.html
Panic has set in behind the scenes at The View amid Jimmy Kimmel's suspension at ABC, with insiders claiming that hosts are at loggerheads and staff are concerned about censorship - and the future of their jobs.
It comes as FCC chair Brendan Carr, whose threats to revoke ABC affiliate licenses led to Kimmel's show being pulled off air, said this afternoon that The View could be next.
Earlier today, presenters Whoopi Goldberg, Joy Behar, Sunny Hostin, Sara Haines, and Alyssa Farah Griffin made no reference to their network's decision to pull Jimmy Kimmel Live! 'indefinitely' over his comments about the assassination of Charlie Kirk.
Instead, the women focused their attention on the Epstein files investigation and ousted CDC Director Susan Monarez's testimony about RFK Jr, much to the frustration of viewers who speculated they had been giving 'marching orders' from above.
Production sources have since broken their silence to describe the alleged pandemonium on set.
One insider claimed to the Daily Mail that the hosts are in disagreement over how to handle the network's scandal, as some want to speak out but also don't want to risk getting canceled themselves.
Another has claimed that staffers are concerned about censorship and having to bow to particular demands to keep bosses, and the Trump administration, happy.
'There's definitely a difficult dynamic going on,' one source told Daily Mail.
The View hosts and crew are panicking behind the scenes amid the Jimmy Kimmel fallout, sources tell Daily Mail
ABC pulled Jimmy Kimmel Live! 'indefinitely' on Wednesday night over his comments about the assassination of Charlie Kirk
'The View is not going to discuss Jimmy Kimmel's suspension because they're at the same network. They're not going to trash their own.
'It's a general rule at ABC not to trash other shows.'
Sinclair Inc., whose local stations pay to run ABC's Jimmy Kimmel Live!, said on Wednesday night that it will refrain from broadcasting Kimmel's show indefinitely.
The move came after Carr, chair of broadcast regulator, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC), threatened to act against ABC and its parent company Disney over Kimmel's comments.
'ABC as a whole is being attacked - not just The View,' the source continued. 'The FCC is coming for all of them.
'There's panic across the board, but obviously with more politically based shows than the entertainment ones.
'Sinclair made it nearly impossible for Jimmy Kimmel to return because they're asking for him to make donations, public apologies - all these things that they know he won't do.
'They're pushing him into a space where the show is over.'
The View, which is also an ABC show, made no mention to Kimmel's suspension during Thursday's live broadcast
Sources tell Daily Mail that staff at The View are scared for their jobs
They continued: 'Behind the scenes, staff are scared for their jobs. It's a scary time. They're really concerned. People are holding their breath.
'Those who work in the media industry have been in fear for a while now, but last night's news, you can say it has heightened their fear.
'Some shows used to be without censorship, but now after Kimmel's suspension, they're going to have to be extra careful about what they say on national TV.'
Another production staffer is so worried about the future of the network that they have already packed up their personal belongings.
'People are worried,' they told Daily Mail.
'I'm taking a lot of my personal stuff home tonight because who knows what's going to happen and I want to be able to make a quick exit if I need to. Grab my coat and go.'
A third production source claimed The View panel do not want to rock the boat by speaking out on Kimmel.
Instead, they allege that the hosts want to stay out of the drama and not give the network a reason to suspend them too.
Speaking to Daily Mail, the source said: 'The women of The View are more surprised that they haven't been taken off the air already.
:laugh:
According to one insider, Jimmy is upset with the ordeal and has declared ABC 'dead' to him
Charlie Kirk was assassinated last week while addressing an audience on the campus of Utah Valley University
'There was a very big assumption to let it be and not make a big deal out of it since this is all happening in their backyard, so to speak.
'The women already get themselves in hot water over everything else they say, so they aren't looking to invite more drama into the show with the low-hanging fruit of Jimmy Kimmel.
'Some are going to be on his side, some aren't, but if they talk about it, that will give ABC another reason to suspend them as well.
'The panelists at The View want to see where all of this goes before they make mention of it, because they don't want to be locked in the crosshairs of it all.
'They chose to avoid the controversy for their wellbeing, and they will all see where everything stands next week when the dust settles. Nobody is looking to fight the system just yet.'
Kimmel's suspension comes after comments he made about Donald Trump and the late right-wing activist Kirk during Monday's episode.
During the controversial episode, he said: 'The MAGA Gang are desperately trying to characterize this kid who murdered Charlie Kirk as anything other than one of them and doing everything they can to score political points from it.'
The late-night host also poked fun at President Donald Trump's reaction to the shooting.
'This is not how an adult grieves the murder of someone he calls a friend,' he said. 'This is how a four-year-old mourns a goldfish.'
Shortly after ABC announced Kimmel had been suspended on Wednesday night, Trump said: 'The ratings challenged Jimmy Kimmel Show is CANCELLED.
'Congratulations to ABC for finally having the courage to do what had to be done.'
Today, the president sensationally claimed that Kimmel was taken off the air 'for lack of talent.'
Earlier, it was reported that Kimmel won't be allowed back on air by Sinclair unless he makes a donation to Turning Point USA, the nonprofit organization founded by Kirk that advocates for conservative politics on high school, college, and university campuses.
According to one source, however, Kimmel has no desire to write a check.
President Donald Trump celebrated the abrupt cancelation of Jimmy Kimmel Live! on Wednesday night with a blistering Truth Social post that cheered the end of the ABC show
He also called for two of Kimmel's network rivals, Jimmy Fallon and Seth Meyers to be fired.
'If Jimmy apologizes and gives any money to Turning Point USA it will be a complete defeat for Jimmy and those close to him,' they said.
'He has no urge to do that at all. He is going to continue to fight. He feels terrible for the people that work on his show because he will be OK at the end of the day; they might not if they lose their job though.
'But as of right now, and for the foreseeable future, if he never returned to ABC, he would be absolutely OK with that.'
According to the insider, Jimmy is upset with the whole ordeal, and would only return to 'see the people who work for him be OK'.
'ABC right now is completely dead to Jimmy,' they continued. 'For everything he has done for ABC, to host the Oscars and champion the company for years to get here is the biggest slap in the face of his entire life and career.
'He wants to go elsewhere and is actively looking to get out of his contract,' the source said.
Celebrities across the country have voiced their fury over the controversial move, with many concerned about what it means for freedom of speech.
On this morning's episode of the Today show, Hollywood actor Jason Bateman predicted that a reckoning could be on the horizon.
'Well, it's troubling to say the least,' the A-list star said. 'And we all have to really take a moment and figure how we feel about this type of thing.
'Especially, people doing what you do.
'I'm sure there's going to be some sort of collective move to respond to this, but I'm not smart enough or powerful enough to be the one to do it but I imagine there's plenty of conversations going on to do something, because you just can't stand by and let stuff like that go on.'
Can you explain what you mean by that?
How does the stats tie in with that statement?
I’m sure you can figure out what I mean if you think about it. If you can’t then not sure what to say.
Some speculation being made (if you're interested in that) that Kimmel's writing staff possibly had leaked that he intended to double down as they were looking for a way out for themselves so they can still get employment. The leaking of that is what caused Disney to act and pull his show:
PBD Podcast
Timestamp: https://www.youtube.com/live/EyTrMMH9aok?t=1006s
It's a very interesting and I think a very possible take. The unions will organize protests in a big deal to make them all seem unified (in principle), but those kinds of things are more likely just to recruit new members. There are more than a few people people "on staff" I'm sure that are more concerned about their own ability to find work... especially in a competitive industry like Hollywood.
This is getting further and further then being just about Kirk, imo, and more about Hollywood imploding on itself, but yeah...
BREAKING USA: The House votes 310-58 to condemn Charlie Kirk’s assassination,
honor his legacy, and denounce political violence.
58 Democrats voted against it. Insane.
While this on the surface looks in poor taste, I think that's an oversimplification of the situation. Every single Democrat's reaction has been sympathy of CK and his family, and of public condemnation of political violence.
However, a resolution denouncing political violence AND honouring a man who made a career out of it. Has this been just a resolution condemning the violence, the vote would be very very different. The majority of the democrats were POC - how can you expect black men and women to vote to honour a man who said what he said about their community.
Part of the resolution stated "he worked tirelessly to promote unity without compromising on conviction". That is horseshit. He worked in favour of white republican straight men, and women who were in the place he expected them to be.
Adam Carolla re: Kimmel:
yzgef_yN49Q
Timestamp @7:58: https://youtu.be/yzgef_yN49Q?t=478
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2025, 05:29 PM
Failed "politician" Tim Walz yesterday: “we have go to get back to decency.”
Tim Walz two weeks ago: Telling the audience how excited he’d be to see Trump dead.
video: - https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1969084222787780925
YCNMIU
Utter chaos breaks out backstage at The View over Jimmy Kimmel: Hosts at war and staff in fear... as network bosses impose strict new 'rule'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15112507/the-view-jimmy-kimmel-abc-rule.html
:laugh:
They are all going to have to get used to the different taste of ass.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2025, 05:43 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1Kdh0RXkAAax_2?format=jpg&name=small
I’m sure you can figure out what I mean if you think about it. If you can’t then not sure what to say.
As an example of how I don't understand.
You mentioned mothers killed by their sons as a high example. I was aware of that as it had just been released as a headline a day before you posted it. I remembered seeing it pop up at work on my phone and thinking, oh, that will be juicy on TIBB.
You used that statistic in a back and forth, left this, right this, thread.
What I don't understand is what that had to do with the argument at the time.
In my head, im thinking you are trying to somehow link that stat in with right wing people being more violent.
Thats Why I needed more explanation.
I have other questions as well, but if you could maybe clear that one up first, and we could take it from there.:shrug:
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2025, 05:47 PM
Prague :love:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1KvPF8W4AAsGIB?format=jpg&name=small
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2025, 05:55 PM
POS Kimmel gloating about Tucker Carlson getting Fired
KARMA
Pleasing video is here - https://x.com/WholeMarsBlog/status/1968742265112674379
As an example of how I don't understand.
You mentioned mothers killed by their sons as a high example. I was aware of that as it had just been released as a headline a day before you posted it. I remembered seeing it pop up at work on my phone and thinking, oh, that will be juicy on TIBB.
You used that statistic in a back and forth, left this, right this, thread.
What I don't understand is what that had to do with the argument at the time.
It was in the Free Speech Rally thread in reply to Livia who, in the middle of a discussion about the threat of men to women, decided to bring up trans people (again) suggesting the "trans loving, woman hating gay men" don't actually care about women. She did this because she believes we can't care about women because we support trans women as in her opinion, trans women are a huge threat to non-trans women.
The stat you have mentioned was amongst other stats to remind people that woman are at risk from largely men then know and/or cis, straight men - this was illustrated by the various stats which were either relating to women being killed or attacked by partners, ex's or family, or stats that showed almost half the men who were arrested for protesting migrants last year had prior due to domestic violence.
My post aimed to highlight that women, by and large, are at a much, much, much great risk from their partners who often fall into the demographic on said march as evidenced by the domestic violence statistic, and not from trans women as Livia was (once again, and falsely) suggesting.
The mothers/sons stat was not being used to link any political party, no.
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2025, 06:00 PM
No one banned Jimmy Kimmel from every major social media app.
That happened to Trump.
No one conspired to put Jimmy Kimmel in jail.
That happened to Trump.
No one fired a bullet at Jimmy Kimmel.
That happened to Trump.
And Charlie.
What happened to Kimmel is that his corporate employer decided he was no longer a profitable figurehead for its product distributed over the public airwaves.
That's it.
What happened to Kimmel is that his corporate employer decided he was no longer a profitable figurehead for its product distributed over the public airwaves. employable due to threats from Trumps administration at the FCC because he said Trump's grieving process was childlike
Bang on!
No one banned Jimmy Kimmel from every major social media app.
That happened to Trump.
No one conspired to put Jimmy Kimmel in jail.
That happened to Trump.
No one fired a bullet at Jimmy Kimmel.
That happened to Trump.
And Charlie.
What happened to Kimmel is that his corporate employer decided he was no longer a profitable figurehead for its product distributed over the public airwaves.
That's it.
he was taken off the air at the direction of trump, no matter how much you try and obfuscate
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2025, 06:08 PM
he was taken off the air at the direction of trump, no matter how much you try and obfuscate
yes that is a popular left-wing accusation based on nothing
Congratulations for excusing his vile actions and disastrous ratings
:umm2:
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2025, 06:10 PM
i will just leave this here
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1LxtaNWMAAGq2e?format=jpg&name=small
lol
"They have a license granted by us at the FCC that comes with it an obligation to operate in the public interest," Carr told Johnson. "I mean, look, we can do this the easy way or the hard way. These companies can find ways to change conduct to take actions, frankly on Kimmel, or there’s going to be additional work for the FCC ahead."
Before ABC announced it was halting Kimmel’s show, two companies that own a range of ABC affiliates, Nexstar and Sinclair, said they would be preempting his show. Nexstar is seeking FCC approval for a merger with Tegna, while Nexstar and Sinclair are asking the FCC to repeal a rule that limits any broadcasting company from reaching more than 39% of U.S. households.
In an interview after Kimmel’s show was pulled, Carr again cited his agency’s public interest obligation. Speaking with Fox News’ Sean Hannity, Carr said: "We at the FCC are going to enforce the public interest obligation. If there’s broadcasters out there that don’t like it, they can turn their license in to the FCC. But that’s our job, and again we’re making some progress now."
Publications and legal experts say Carr overstepped his mandate, using the threat of government action to police what should qualify as free speech.
"When a network drops high-profile talent hours after the FCC chairman makes a barely veiled threat, then it’s no longer just a business decision. It’s government coercion," wrote the right-of-center publication The Free Press. "Is it now Trump administration policy to punish broadcasters for comedy that doesn’t conform to its politics? That is censorship."
:skull:
You're once again ignoring a lot of fact and lacking any rational objectivity which makes having a discussion with you almost impossible.
he was taken off the air at the direction of trump, no matter how much you try and obfuscate
I disagree, ratings are EVERYTHING in the US. He was taken off for his comments, and taken off because he's not as popular as he once was.
Had he been pulling in record numbers, the TV network would have kept him on. His misinformation surrounding the murder of Charlie Kirk, gave the network all what they needed to get rid. His show was a sinking ship, way before any of this, Kirk comments, Trump etc.
It was in the Free Speech Rally thread in reply to Livia who, in the middle of a discussion about the threat of men to women, decided to bring up trans people (again) suggesting the "trans loving, woman hating gay men" don't actually care about women. She did this because she believes we can't care about women because we support trans women as in her opinion, trans women are a huge threat to non-trans women.
The stat you have mentioned was amongst other stats to remind people that woman are at risk from largely men then know and/or cis, straight men - this was illustrated by the various stats which were either relating to women being killed or attacked by partners, ex's or family, or stats that showed almost half the men who were arrested for protesting migrants last year had prior due to domestic violence.
My post aimed to highlight that women, by and large, are at a much, much, much great risk from their partners who often fall into the demographic on said march as evidenced by the domestic violence statistic, and not from trans women as Livia was (once again, and falsely) suggesting.
The mothers/sons stat was not being used to link any political party, no.
Your post did indeed highlight that.
Any stats on domestic abuse for gay marraige?
That can disprove this https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648
Are they right wingers too?
I disagree, ratings are EVERYTHING in the US. He was taken off for his comments, and taken off because he's not as popular as he once was.
Had he been pulling in record numbers, the TV network would have kept him on. His misinformation surrounding the murder of Charlie Kirk, gave the network all what they needed to get rid. His show was a sinking ship, way before any of this, Kirk comments, Trump etc.
ABC pay him a very lucrative contract. The normal way would be to let his contract expire and not renew. Now, they have to pay his contract
ABC pay him a very lucrative contract. The normal way would be to let his contract expire and not renew. Now, they have to pay his contract
That's chump change to these massive corporate juggernauts. Ad rev is where it's at. And again, if he was bringing record numbers, he'd be safe as houses.
They claim to have them, but none of these billion dollar companies have any morals, right or wrong, when it comes to their bottom line.
Your post did indeed highlight that.
Any stats on domestic abuse for gay marraige?
That can disprove this https://www.bbc.com/news/magazine-29994648
Are they right wingers too?
Here are some stats on the lifetime domestic abuse rate:
Women
Heterosexual women: 35%
Lesbian women: 44%
Men
Heterosexual men: 29%
Gay men: 26%
As you can see, gay men face the lowest domestic abuse rates across the board. Lesbian women face higher, but it's important to remember these stats are LIFETIME PARTNERS and I remember reading elsewhere these stats also were including previously relationships with men. Bisexual people actually face the highest level of DV, and I don't know why, it would be interesting to theorise about this.
Many studies how show that relationship satisfaction is greater between homosexual couples than in heterosexual couples, possibly largely to do with a greater equality within the relationship - a greater balance of labour and domestic jobs, etc...
It's important also to remember that homosexual people face much higher rates of depression due to minority stressors.
But more important than that is this: you've glued together two different strands of stats which say two very different things:
- One where I have used stats to show that women are at a much greater risk from their partners than they are from trans women. These statistics are true and paint a real picture of where the risk for women lies within society.
- A stat from this thread (which is what you originally quoted me from which is why I was surprised when you explained which stat you mentioned the mother and son one). What I've spoken about in this thread, and what my comment about the right normalising murder is the statistics that shows extremist politically led violence being higher amongst right-wing than left - and by a fair margin. These stats are completely a different topic to domestic violence, which is, I don't believe, a right/left issue because it's not politically motivated in the way that extremist violence is.
To say that it's enlightening that 41% of right-wing men who were arrested during anti migrant protests in the name of protecting women were known to police because of domestic violence accusations, doesn't mean that left-wing people can't be perpetrators of domestic violence. Of course they can. And yes, there are plenty of gay/lesbian right-wingers.
ABC pay him a very lucrative contract. The normal way would be to let his contract expire and not renew. Now, they have to pay his contract
He's near the end of his contract...
Jimmy Kimmel’s future at ABC was already up in air before Charlie Kirk uproar as contract came to a close
https://pagesix.com/2025/09/18/entertainment/jimmy-kimmel-future-at-abc-was-up-in-air-before-charlie-kirk-uproar/
FCC were involved so no matter what, Trump's involvement can't be completely ruled out. They have a duty to and are able to correct the record but they won't immediately if it's even possible. Carr has said out loud their intention is to expect broadcasters and media conglomerates to take matters into their hands and clean up their own house instead of forcing them to wage war. Public sentiment has shifted significantly towards concerns about what media we are consuming, especially after the shooting.
In my opinion, both parties at this point have already said in different ways that social media has now become a problem so both want to do something about it but just haven't admitted it out loud yet... if they're not on the same page, they're just about there. I wouldn't be surprised if at least some in the party felt very similarly about TV as well...
Kimmel and personalities like him were useful cows for a time but they are just about milked. The Democrat establishment doesn't actually care about the free speech issue and won't do much more than complain about it unless they can somehow use this opportunity to make permanent their extended soapbox into the entertainment space.
Just my two cents.
everything boils down to money in the end. free speech is great if it makes me money
Here are some stats on the lifetime domestic abuse rate:
Women
Heterosexual women: 35%
Lesbian women: 44%
Men
Heterosexual men: 29%
Gay men: 26%
As you can see, gay men face the lowest domestic abuse rates across the board. Lesbian women face higher, but it's important to remember these stats are LIFETIME PARTNERS and I remember reading elsewhere these stats also were including previously relationships with men. Bisexual people actually face the highest level of DV, and I don't know why, it would be interesting to theorise about this.
Many studies how show that relationship satisfaction is greater between homosexual couples than in heterosexual couples, possibly largely to do with a greater equality within the relationship - a greater balance of labour and domestic jobs, etc...
It's important also to remember that homosexual people face much higher rates of depression due to minority stressors.
But more important than that is this: you've glued together two different strands of stats which say two very different things:
- One where I have used stats to show that women are at a much greater risk from their partners than they are from trans women. These statistics are true and paint a real picture of where the risk for women lies within society.
- A stat from this thread (which is what you originally quoted me from which is why I was surprised when you explained which stat you mentioned the mother and son one). What I've spoken about in this thread, and what my comment about the right normalising murder is the statistics that shows extremist politically led violence being higher amongst right-wing than left - and by a fair margin. These stats are completely a different topic to domestic violence, which is, I don't believe, a right/left issue because it's not politically motivated in the way that extremist violence is.
To say that it's enlightening that 41% of right-wing men who were arrested during anti migrant protests in the name of protecting women were known to police because of domestic violence accusations, doesn't mean that left-wing people can't be perpetrators of domestic violence. Of course they can. And yes, there are plenty of gay/lesbian right-wingers.
Can you post the link about the percentage of the arrests being known to police for DV.
There is a lot to take in in that post:blush: so I would like to start at the beginning before answering.
everything boils down to money in the end. free speech is great if it makes me money
It's smart as hell because they're playing the right. "Look, we've come to our senses!"... yeah ok...
Can you post the link about the percentage of the arrests being known to police for DV.
There is a lot to take in in that post:blush: so I would like to start at the beginning before answering.
It was from a FOI request and reported by The Guardian
Two out of every five people arrested after participating in last summer’s riots had been previously reported to the police for domestic abuse, the Guardian can disclose.
Police data released under freedom of information (FoI) laws shows that 41% of 899 people arrested for taking part in the violent disorder last July and August had been reported for crimes associated with intimate partner violence.
For those arrested by one police force, this figure was as high as 68%.
Previous offences include actual bodily harm, grievous bodily harm, stalking, breach of restraint and non-molestation orders, controlling coercive behaviour and criminal damage. - The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse#:~:text=Police%20data%20released%20under%20f reedom,associated%20with%20intimate%20partner%20vi olence.)
Crimson Dynamo
19-09-2025, 07:55 PM
NEWS: OXFORD AND CAMBRIDGE NOT IN TOP 3 UK UNIVERSITIES FOR FIRST TIME IN HISTORY
This is the price you pay for DEI schemes and promoting hateful people
#Charlie
emseateng2014
19-09-2025, 09:19 PM
wonder who the 58 are
BREAKING USA: The House votes 310-58 to condemn Charlie Kirk’s assassination,
honor his legacy, and denounce political violence.
58 Democrats voted against it. Insane.
emseateng2014
19-09-2025, 09:19 PM
left wingers voted against it
Remind me, the people who voted against, are they on the Left or the Right...?
emseateng2014
19-09-2025, 09:25 PM
its most likely that sunny and joy would get alot more mad about it than the rest of the cast
Utter chaos breaks out backstage at The View over Jimmy Kimmel: Hosts at war and staff in fear... as network bosses impose strict new 'rule'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-15112507/the-view-jimmy-kimmel-abc-rule.html
:laugh:
It was in the Free Speech Rally thread in reply to Livia who, in the middle of a discussion about the threat of men to women, decided to bring up trans people (again) suggesting the "trans loving, woman hating gay men" don't actually care about women. She did this because she believes we can't care about women because we support trans women as in her opinion, trans women are a huge threat to non-trans women.
The stat you have mentioned was amongst other stats to remind people that woman are at risk from largely men then know and/or cis, straight men - this was illustrated by the various stats which were either relating to women being killed or attacked by partners, ex's or family, or stats that showed almost half the men who were arrested for protesting migrants last year had prior due to domestic violence.
My post aimed to highlight that women, by and large, are at a much, much, much great risk from their partners who often fall into the demographic on said march as evidenced by the domestic violence statistic, and not from trans women as Livia was (once again, and falsely) suggesting.
The mothers/sons stat was not being used to link any political party, no.
Why use it then :shrug:
IIt was from a FOI request and reported by The Guardian
Two out of every five people arrested after participating in last summer’s riots had been previously reported to the police for domestic abuse, the Guardian can disclose.
Police data released under freedom of information (FoI) laws shows that 41% of 899 people arrested for taking part in the violent disorder last July and August had been reported for crimes associated with intimate partner violence.
For those arrested by one police force, this figure was as high as 68%.
Previous offences include actual bodily harm, grievous bodily harm, stalking, breach of restraint and non-molestation orders, controlling coercive behaviour and criminal damage. - The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/society/2025/jul/26/two-in-five-arrested-for-last-summers-uk-riots-had-been-reported-for-domestic-abuse#:~:text=Police%20data%20released%20under%20f reedom,associated%20with%20intimate%20partner%20vi olence.)
Been reported to the police are your key words there....says nothing about convictions.
The bit that does with the gbh etc etc, could be the crimes of one or 2 people mentioned all at once to paint a false picture on everyone else.
:shrug:
All probably single at the time of offences though.Hopefully.
Lots off down trodden men sat at home with the female version of Walter schofield mitty, slightly scared to mention going out for ten minutes, love...if the lesbian and bi sexual stats are to be believed.
It all weighs out in the end.
Why use it then :shrug:
Because as stated my reply was to Livia and was to point out women are mainly at risk from men they know not trans women, it wasn’t a left wing/right wing post.
Because as stated my reply was to Livia and was to point out women are mainly at risk from men they know not trans women, it wasn’t a left wing/right wing post.
I would prefer you not to use that particular part of the statistics .
Fair enough, elderly women could be killed by their middle aged sons, but also mothers could be killed by their teanage children, and those children could be struggling trans or not. The men could also be violent because they are in the closet, like many other well known names.
Basically, unless we delve deeper and narrow down those percentages on the percentages of people arrested with previous we cant really judge.
People on here sometimes do say the right wingers harassing gay people are closet gays themselves.
Cherie
19-09-2025, 10:37 PM
Because as stated my reply was to Livia and was to point out women are mainly at risk from men they know not trans women, it wasn’t a left wing/right wing post.
I dont think the stats matter, if women are at risk even one woman, its one woman too much, do you not agree?
No one cares about stats if they are attacked
I would prefer you not to use that particular part of the statistics .
Fair enough, elderly women could be killed by their middle aged sons, but also mothers could be killed by their teanage children, and those children could be struggling trans or not. The men could also be violent because they are in the closet, like many other well known names.
Basically, unless we delve deeper and narrow down those percentages on the percentages of people arrested with previous we cant really judge.
People on here sometimes do say the right wingers harassing gay people are closet gays themselves.
Im not saying they’re not gay or a struggling trans teenager. I’m saying they know them and they’re not a random trans woman in a bathroom.
Christ alive.
Im not saying they’re not gay or a struggling trans teenager. I’m saying they know them and they’re not a random trans woman in a bathroom.
Christ alive.
Err, no. You wernt saying "They know them"
You were saying that particular stat about mothers being killed by sons, somehow proved a point about Livias post about trans violence.
Dont start moving goalposts now at this time
I dont think the stats matter, if women are at risk even one woman, its one woman too much, do you not agree?
No one cares about stats if they are attacked
Everyone is at risk from everyone. Life is not free of threat or risk. As a wider society we focus on the biggest issues to mitigate the biggest risk and therefore to save the largest number of people. Thats why stats are important, because it gives focus to the issues that will help the greatest number of people.
Which is why it’s so illogical and dangerous and insincere when some of you focus on the small risks, the risks coming from 1% of the 1%’s of society.
I’m no longer having these conversations.
I dont think the stats matter, if women are at risk even one woman, its one woman too much, do you not agree?
No one cares about stats if they are attacked
I.got attacked, rather seriously but was thankfully unconscious from the off. Grimsby lads, down for the England Scotland game. Happened outside an ex celeb BB housemates place of work, a pub in leucester square. Andy the lefty tossbag that won or nearly won.
Anyway, only thing that bothered me was Grimsby was ranked statistically one of the worst places to visit in England.
So I think you are wrong Cherie, sometimes statistics do matter.
I was a statistic, an unsolved crime statistic.
Can you imagine what's going through his killers head right now.
Can you imagine what's going through his killers head right now.
Sadly, yes.
Everyone is at risk from everyone. L
That is obviously not true. A woman in a woman only space is vulnerable to men. That is why they are women only spaces. They have already been identified as areas of high risk.
Cherie
20-09-2025, 07:23 AM
]Everyone is at risk from everyone[/B]. Life is not free of threat or risk. As a wider society we focus on the biggest issues to mitigate the biggest risk and therefore to save the largest number of people. Thats why stats are important, because it gives focus to the issues that will help the greatest number of people.
Which is why it’s so illogical and dangerous and insincere when some of you focus on the small risks, the risks coming from 1% of the 1%’s of society.
I’m no longer having these conversations.
Patently untrue, children are not a threat to adults for instance
I think its very disingenous of you to write off the risk to women from men
Charlie Kirk statue commissioned for New College of Florida campus…
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlie-kirk-statue-new-college-florida-b2827840.html
https://static.independent.co.uk/2025/09/16/20/25/G0-4JDYXUAAYK1P.jpeg?quality=75&width=1368&auto=webp
Patently untrue, children are not a threat to adults for instance
I think its very disingenous of you to write off the risk to women from men
Well yes I think that goes without saying regarding children, maybe I should have caveated that however.
I think it’s laughable you’ve accused me of writing off danger women face from men when whenever I talk about it you and others constantly deflect to trans people as the risk.
I feel like I raise the factual statistics about risks women face on here more than most and am met with “trans ppl tho” which funnily enough you’ve never objected to. Even even I mention the risk women women face at the hands of their sons your pal diverts the subject to domestic violence in gay relationships.
But yeh, sure, I’m the one writing off risks women face.
Fox News: Charlie Kirk said there was no such thing as hate speech.
Trump: He might not be saying that now.
:spin:
Well yes I think that goes without saying regarding children, maybe I should have caveated that however.
I think it’s laughable you’ve accused me of writing off danger women face from men when whenever I talk about it you and others constantly deflect to trans people as the risk.
I feel like I raise the factual statistics about risks women face on here more than most and am met with “trans ppl tho” which funnily enough you’ve never objected to. Even even I mention the risk women women face at the hands of their sons your pal diverts the subject to domestic violence in gay relationships.
But yeh, sure, I’m the one writing off risks women face.
The discussion was about statistics.
The discussion was about statistics.
It's pointless replying to me moving forward Beso, I'm no longer wasting my time in having a debate with you.
Livia
20-09-2025, 11:42 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1Kdh0RXkAAax_2?format=jpg&name=small
Trumpet putting everything in a nutshell for the hard of thinking.
Crimson Dynamo
20-09-2025, 01:21 PM
BOOM 💥 Megyn Kelly brings the receipts
FBI is looking into (7) accounts linked to Lance Twiggs
All of these posts from these accounts have cryptic messages, and Kelly asks after reading them, how did they all know this was about to happen to Charlie Kirk ?
It would appear he didn't do this alone:shocked:
Video with the messages here: https://x.com/Chicago1Ray/status/1969219687922745811
Cherie
20-09-2025, 02:21 PM
Well yes I think that goes without saying regarding children, maybe I should have caveated that however.
I think it’s laughable you’ve accused me of writing off danger women face from men when whenever I talk about it you and others constantly deflect to trans people as the risk.
I feel like I raise the factual statistics about risks women face on here more than most and am met with “trans ppl tho” which funnily enough you’ve never objected to. Even even I mention the risk women women face at the hands of their sons your pal diverts the subject to domestic violence in gay relationships.
But yeh, sure, I’m the one writing off risks women face.
Actually you have completely misrepresented me I have always said it's men jumping on the trans self ID bandwagon ...and I have asked multiple times why trans people do no speak out ..,do you dispute this is what I have posted
BOOM �� Megyn Kelly brings the receipts
FBI is looking into (7) accounts linked to Lance Twiggs
All of these posts from these accounts have cryptic messages, and Kelly asks after reading them, how did they all know this was about to happen to Charlie Kirk ?
It would appear he didn't do this alone:shocked:
Video with the messages here: https://x.com/Chicago1Ray/status/1969219687922745811
Their text message chain didn't sound that natural to me, given, it was a very uncommon conversation to be had.
I just thought it was really weird the roommate only made one actual statement. The rest were questions and reactions and the murderer just kept giving away and filling in all this detail unprompted like it's a normal Discord conversation. He had to have known deleting texts wouldn't have stopped them from figuring out what was said. I think at least the killer's side in that conversation was total bullcrap, imo.
He called where he left the gun a "drop point" to someone who supposedly wouldn't understand what that meant. I wonder if he was signaling to him to go try to pick it up as hey I left it at the preplanned drop point... duh.
It's pointless replying to me moving forward Beso, I'm no longer wasting my time in having a debate with you.
A PM on the matter would have been politer.
Actually you have completely misrepresented me I have always said it's men jumping on the trans self ID bandwagon ...and I have asked multiple times why trans people do no speak out ..,do you dispute this is what I have posted
And I’ve asked you multiple times why you expect trans people to speak out for the crimes of men.
But unless you have spoken to every trans person, you cannot claim they don’t. I’m sure they hate the fact that men co-opt their identity to assault women. In doing this you are putting the onus on trans people, the responsibility of the crime, on trans people. The very fact you never ask the straight cis men of the forum why they don’t speak out on the crimes of straight men, why they don’t speak out on their fellow straight men who are co-opting trans identities to sexually assault women is odd to me. It’s their demographic doing it. Do you not find it weird that every time Beso and CD are presented with statistics showing that straight, white, conservative men in a negative light they never call it out, they never speak up, they never hold them accountable. They shift the conversation so often to gay people, to people of colour, to trans people, to leftists.
Even early in this thread, when your pal pretended trans people were a huge issue when it came to mass shooting - and I gave figures proving the opposite - even then you ignored the fact they are less likely to be a mass shooter, you called into question why any trans mass shooters existed. You didn’t question why cis, right wingers were far more likely to be a mass shooters, you just questioned why trans mass shooters existed, totally ignoring the statistics.
Again and again you hold trans people to this impossible standard that you never hold cis men to. You deflect and you allow others to deflect and then you pivot and embolden the anti-trans rhetoric of your fellow members.
Look Cherie, you obviously have your right to reply and that’s fair but I don’t want to argue with you anymore, so I won’t be replying any further once you’ve replied.
There is not much more I can say and I don’t want to just keep on debating with people.
All the best.
Charlie Kirk statue commissioned for New College of Florida campus…
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlie-kirk-statue-new-college-florida-b2827840.html
https://static.independent.co.uk/2025/09/16/20/25/G0-4JDYXUAAYK1P.jpeg?quality=75&width=1368&auto=webp
That maintenance bill is going to suck for the time-being.
Crimson Dynamo
20-09-2025, 08:30 PM
Turning Point UK 🇬🇧
@TPointUK
·
3h
One of our supporters had this through the door today - she has a Charlie Kirk tribute on her house.
The silent majority stands with Charlie.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1TgOGxWwAA4iLi?format=jpg&name=small
Cherie
20-09-2025, 09:35 PM
And I’ve asked you multiple times why you expect trans people to speak out for the crimes of men.
But unless you have spoken to every trans person, you cannot claim they don’t. I’m sure they hate the fact that men co-opt their identity to assault women. In doing this you are putting the onus on trans people, the responsibility of the crime, on trans people. The very fact you never ask the straight cis men of the forum why they don’t speak out on the crimes of straight men, why they don’t speak out on their fellow straight men who are co-opting trans identities to sexually assault women is odd to me. It’s their demographic doing it. Do you not find it weird that every time Beso and CD are presented with statistics showing that straight, white, conservative men in a negative light they never call it out, they never speak up, they never hold them accountable. They shift the conversation so often to gay people, to people of colour, to trans people, to leftists.
Even early in this thread, when your pal pretended trans people were a huge issue when it came to mass shooting - and I gave figures proving the opposite - even then you ignored the fact they are less likely to be a mass shooter, you called into question why any trans mass shooters existed. You didn’t question why cis, right wingers were far more likely to be a mass shooters, you just questioned why trans mass shooters existed, totally ignoring the statistics.
Again and again you hold trans people to this impossible standard that you never hold cis men to. You deflect and you allow others to deflect and then you pivot and embolden the anti-trans rhetoric of your fellow members.
An impossible standard, there have been multiple examples of men jumping on the trans bandwagon, but nary a word from actual trans people;...give it up seriously.....I defect...lol you need to have a serious look at yourself
Cherie
20-09-2025, 09:53 PM
You know the other weird thing in your responses to me is you bring other members into it, I respond to an individual post, I dont post as part of a group, I am me and will always be me ...hope you get that, I never refer to you in terms of other members though you might have similar thoughts so please give me the same space....
emseateng2014
20-09-2025, 11:45 PM
i wonder what people from the left around the world on earth 1 is gonna say about a charlie kirk statue at collage campus
because most of us do know and remember what happened to most of the right wing statues in canada uk and usa after george floyd died
Charlie Kirk statue commissioned for New College of Florida campus…
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/charlie-kirk-statue-new-college-florida-b2827840.html
https://static.independent.co.uk/2025/09/16/20/25/G0-4JDYXUAAYK1P.jpeg?quality=75&width=1368&auto=webp
i wonder what people from the left around the world on earth 1 is gonna say about a charlie kirk statue at collage campus
because most of us do know and remember what happened to most of the right wing statues in canada uk and usa after george floyd died
Someone's going to get paid some extra OT while they protect it lol. A lot of universities right atm are probably hiring extra security... so it might actually be fine depending on where they put it.
If it's the one I saw where he's sitting at the table trying to discuss something with someone, imagine sitting in front of that **** having a debate in SD... chills...
Sacramento man arrested after opening fire on ABC10 news station lobby in broad daylight
https://nypost.com/2025/09/20/us-news/sacramento-man-arrested-in-abc10-news-station-shooting/
A Sacramento man who railed against President Trump online allegedly opened fire on a local ABC affiliate in a brazen drive-by shooting — just a day after furious protesters demonstrated outside the station over the suspension of “Jimmy Kimmel Live!”
Anibal Hernandez-Santana, 64, was busted Friday night at an apartment in the River Park neighborhood and charged with blasting three bullets into the lobby window of ABC10’s Broadway headquarters hours earlier, according to reports.
Police said they linked the accused gunman’s vehicle to the shooting.
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 01:06 AM
Turning Point UK [emoji636]
@TPointUK
·
3h
One of our supporters had this through the door today - she has a Charlie Kirk tribute on her house.
The silent majority stands with Charlie.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1TgOGxWwAA4iLi?format=jpg&name=small
:joker:
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 01:09 AM
https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250921/43a101b2043a2896547b2abc3279a8d2.jpg
:clap2:
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 07:00 AM
Glasgow yesterday
The face of the deranged far-left summed up in one photograph
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1U3HYzXUAAFECk?format=jpg&name=small
Whether they end up being related or not to Kirk, the bio of this group is interesting as hell.
Founder of Armed Queers group investigated in Charlie Kirk shooting is radical trans leftist who advocated violence
https://nypost.com/2025/09/17/us-news/armed-queers-founder-ermiya-fanaeian-is-radical-trans-leftist/
The cache of information includes posts from Ermiya Fanaeian, the child of Iranian immigrants, according to the source familiar with the federal investigation, whose Instagram bio calls for “Revolution + Trans liberation in our lifetime!”
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/09/2023-thank-everyone-showed-mecha-111383693_aec18e.jpg?resize=1536,1152&quality=75&strip=all
Despite her fringe leftist views, Fanaeian has time and again been welcomed by the political mainstream, and even rewarded for her advocacy.
In 2022, Fanaeian was given a “7 for 17” award for “gender equality” by the Utah Global Diplomacy, a nonprofit that worked with the State Department to “promote citizen diplomacy and international exchange in Utah.”
Fanaeian also joined then-presidential candidate Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) onstage during an April 2019 campaign event in Salt Lake City, an archived picture from Fanaeian’s since-deleted Facebook page shows.
A Warren spokesperson didn’t respond to a request for comment Wednesday.
https://nypost.com/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2025/09/ermiya-fanaeian-posted-image-facebook-111616810.jpg?resize=1536,1024&quality=75&strip=all
In 2020, Fanaeian, 25, started the Salt Lake City chapter of Pink Pistols, a national organization “whose mission is to arm LGBTQ people,” Utah’s KUER wrote that year in a puff piece heralding Fanaeian’s involvement in the group.
I used to think that guns were a scary thing,” Fanaeian told the outlet. “Back then, I would have agreed with Joe Biden’s assertion to take everyone’s AR-15s away. And now I own one.”
In Utah those statements would just be another normal day.
It was quite a pivot — just a year earlier, she founded the local chapter of March for Our Lives — David Hogg’s group, which campaigns to restrict gun rights.
However, the honeymoon phase with Pink Pistols was short-lived; Fanaeian, then a University of Utah student, and the group parted ways just a year later. Pink Pistols now disavowing any connection to the former chapter leader.
“The Party for Socialism and Liberation is not a liberal movement — we are a leftist movement,” Fanaeian told the outlet. “We are an anti-capitalist movement. We are a working class revolutionary movement.”
PSL’s main backer is Neville Singham, a US millionaire tech mogul with extensive ties to the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) who bankrolls other radical organizations including National Students for Justice in Palestine, International People’s Assembly, Code Pink and ANSWER Coalition.
A few former affiliates of her scrubbed links to her interestingly enough.
Al Green has his moments...
"Mr. Speaker, I speak as a liberated Democrat"...
"Unbought, unbossed, unafraid"
*pokes sign from the closest participating Office Depot*
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Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 07:54 AM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1Tu7JkWMAEkNk_?format=jpg&name=900x900
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1Tu7JkWMAEkNk_?format=jpg&name=900x900
I haven't been sleeping worth a crap since this happened, even though I have been getting the hours. I didn't even follow Kirk, but it's like many of us are grieving for the country. Hortman's death was terrible enough and made worse that people move on too quickly now like it should be expected. In a way at least this gave us more time to pause to grieve and reflect for a change on behalf of all the people being effected adversely by political events... there's really not much else to say, it's just terrible for the entire country.
arista
21-09-2025, 03:09 PM
President Trump
is in Arizona, the Charlie Kirk Memorial.
The service starts at 7PM UK Time.
Looks like huge crowds, hope all passes peacefully
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 05:25 PM
Glasgow yesterday
The face of the deranged far-left summed up in one photograph
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1U3HYzXUAAFECk?format=jpg&name=small
the actual state of it
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1WuLB0XAAAeOEr?format=jpg&name=small
the actual state of it
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1WuLB0XAAAeOEr?format=jpg&name=small
Sad as hell.
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 05:46 PM
Sad as hell.
depressing and i guarantee if you looked at the upbringing, their would be serious father issues
:sad:
depressing and i guarantee if you looked at the upbringing, their would be serious father issues
:sad:
We also vastly underestimate the power of substances. What from what I have seen, most of these individuals cite early mental health trauma of some kind. Many have been on psych meds from a young age and also have experimented with other methods of self-medication. All these methods have a profound effect on the development of the mind and it's not talked about nearly enough... experimenting with things like acid for self-medicative purposes can also bring on things like schitzophrenia.
I have a friend who had to be hospitalized from Kratom abuse (I didn't know that was possible...). This was after years of therapy, including one therapist who took him so far down the New Age rabbit hole during a particularly traumatic divorce, thaty they affirmed to him their soon-to-be ex was a soulmate and asserted how easily connected they were. His ex was highly abusive. There was more importance placed on the therapist's ability to discern his state of mind from simple woo than him being able to pick up the skills to discern for himself. He never regained objectivity. He broke down mentally while looking for other methods to self-medicate. He's still suffering privately. I contacted him recently and his moral compass is starting to slip also... It feels horrible.
The attraction to "witchcraft" as a personal weapon is massive tell. It's a huge admission of feeling like one's life is out of their hands... that's a cry for help, imo. These "alternative" methods have gained massive popularity in the US and they are considered as part of legitimate therapy so it can come up even in a simple office visit. And insurance covers this... Hollywood is shoulder deep in these philosophies and it's not as if that's going to fix anything going on internally.
These are the kind of people scrambling for quick solutions. Exercising anger through violence is only one of them. It feels cliche to say this really, but we have a growing mental health problem that is unaddressed.. but unfortunately in the US, we're encouraging the problem by suggesting most solutions to a personal issue involve the cutting out of key figures in our lives, taking very strong prescription meds or otherwise adopting coping strategies that involve largely playing a victim ... too many are being given placebos for their problems by a predatory industry and don't even know it.
i think its a lot simpler than that, these are just people demanding attention that no-one would ever do in a sane world.
i think its a lot simpler than that, these are just people demanding attention that no-one would ever do in a sane world.
We treat that behavior with medications in the US, though, and then people use the fact that they're getting therapy/medications as a validation that their professed problems (imagined or not) are legitimate. So it feeds into the same issue.
Edit: *Clarity
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 07:19 PM
One huge issue is the left confirming delusions in a failed attempt to win an imaginary culture war
Suicidal empathy is real
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 07:48 PM
Transphobia. Shocking but not all surprising.
Congress speaking:
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arista
21-09-2025, 08:28 PM
GBnewsHD is showing it Live
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 08:38 PM
Far right propaganda
arista
21-09-2025, 08:48 PM
President Trump is behind a Security Persplex.
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 08:51 PM
President Trump is behind a Security Persplex.
Protection from the deranged left
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 08:54 PM
From 1975 to mid-2025, there were ~3,597 politically motivated terrorist murders in the U.S.
• Since 2020, there have been 79 such murders.
• Of those since 2020:
• Over half were committed by right-wing extremists
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 09:15 PM
Over 150,000 have gathered
Bagpipes have commemorated Charlies Scottish Heritage.
Hugely popular Donald Trump will speak in an hour
:clap1:
The extreme left are in dissaray, exposed as a hate filled sub group hell bent on death
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 09:17 PM
Over half were committed by right wing extremists.
Maybe he can’t read? :shrug:
Or maybe mr contrary doesn’t really care :shrug:
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 09:19 PM
Donald Trump’s current U.S. approval rating is about 44.9% approve vs 52.4% disapprove
HuGeLy PoPuLaR
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 09:19 PM
popular media personality Tucker Carlson said Charlie Kirk's religious belief was the reason that he was fearless until the end.
"To his last moment, he was unafraid. He was not defensive and there was no hate in his heart," Carlson said.
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 09:20 PM
Charlie Kirk remembered as "a modern-day disciple" and the biggest Trump supporter
What a legacy
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 09:23 PM
He was a great Father and it was father issues that bent the mind of his killer and many on the far left who hate him
Over 150,000 have gathered
Bagpipes have commemorated Charlies Scottish Heritage.
Hugely popular Donald Trump will speak in an hour
:clap1:
The extreme left are in dissaray, exposed as a hate filled sub group hell bent on death
Good lord
I think they spent about 30 minutes practically buffing the bullet proof glass that's on stage
This is uncommon:
1969767467288256861
You can usually see them military marching around on top of the White House when you go visit...
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 09:28 PM
I think they spent about 30 minutes practically buffing the bullet proof glass that's on stage
The deranged left are a huge threat to American safety
Do what you can to defend yourself
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 09:28 PM
This is uncommon:
1969767467288256861
You can see usually them military marching around on top of the White House when you go visit...
:clap1:
Wife & Trump speaking next... that'll be interesting...
The Chillhop music is so random
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 09:55 PM
Over half of political shootings are committed by right wing extremists.
Cherie
21-09-2025, 10:10 PM
Over half of political shootings are committed by right wing extremists.
Not sure what your point is in a thread where the shooter was not right wing
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 10:12 PM
Not sure what your point is in a thread where the shooter was not right wing
Just correcting LTs skewed agenda. Don’t you worry yourself about it.
Cherie
21-09-2025, 10:16 PM
Just correcting LTs skewed agenda. Don’t you worry yourself about it.
Your mask continually slips, you hate women dont you? I can worry about whatever I like, I don't need to be guided by you, your agenda is not exactly unskewed now is it?
arista
21-09-2025, 10:18 PM
https://liveblog.digitalimages.sky/lc-images-sky/lcimg-3eb99032-6489-4143-9aae-769acb2c744b.png
Barry.
21-09-2025, 10:19 PM
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1969731690739466309
He wasn’t a leftist it appears
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 10:19 PM
Your mask continually slips, you hate women dont you? I can worry about whatever I like, I don't need to be guided by you, your agenda is not exactly unskewed now is it?
Really not interested in a back and forth Cherie. You’ve got a bee in your bonnet as per. Have a good night.
Cherie
21-09-2025, 10:21 PM
Really not interested in a back and forth Cherie. You’ve got a bee in your bonnet as per. Have a good night.
course you are not', you cant defend your constant misogyny, have a great night HUN
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 10:22 PM
course you are not', you cant defend your constant misogyny, have a great night HUN
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arista
21-09-2025, 10:26 PM
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1969731690739466309
He wasn’t a leftist it appears
Look he was a Lone Killer who is Gay
Of course in his mind he was left-wing extreme
Electric Chair for him.
is Fair
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1969731690739466309
He wasn’t a leftist it appears
It's an FBI investigation into multiple groups, individuals and possibilities. It's not going to be nearly that quick.
Just one fork in the road...
FBI Director Kash Patel says agency investigating 'theories and questions' surrounding Charlie Kirk's murder
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-director-kash-patel-says-agency-investigating-theories-questions-surrounding-charlie-kirks-murder
Barry.
21-09-2025, 10:27 PM
Look he was a Lone Killer who is Gay
Of course in his mind he was left-wing extreme
Electric Chair for him.
is Fair
He could of been none of them, not part of any of the groups
Though to be fair I distrust most of what comes out of Kash's mouth....
Barry.
21-09-2025, 10:28 PM
It's an FBI investigation into multiple groups, individuals and possibilities. It's not going to be nearly that quick.
Just one fork in the road...
FBI Director Kash Patel says agency investigating 'theories and questions' surrounding Charlie Kirk's murder
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/fbi-director-kash-patel-says-agency-investigating-theories-questions-surrounding-charlie-kirks-murder
It’s interesting that people on both sides have made up their minds on it already. I’m sure we’ll find out eventually
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 10:29 PM
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1969731690739466309
He wasn’t a leftist it appears
Big yikes
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 10:30 PM
Your mask continually slips, you hate women dont you? I can worry about whatever I like, I don't need to be guided by you, your agenda is not exactly unskewed now is it?
The mask slipped pages ago and the zero support speaks volumes
Hung out to dry by the whole forum
Wow
:skull:
It’s interesting that people on both sides have made up their minds on it already. I’m sure we’ll find out eventually
It doesn't help that the modern FBI leaks everything it's looking into as a possibility instead of just focusing on the investigation.
Benjamin
21-09-2025, 10:30 PM
It’s interesting that people on both sides have made up their minds on it already. I’m sure we’ll find out eventually
The sad thing is, a lot won’t even change their minds if we do find out.
arista
21-09-2025, 10:30 PM
He could of been none of them, not part of any of the groups
He did not need to be in Any Groups
It was all Planned by his Evil Mind
He told his boyfriend
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 10:34 PM
The mask slipped pages ago and the zero support speaks volumes
Hung out to dry by the whole forum
Wow
:skull:
It’s interesting that you only reply to a sniff of forum drama but not facts :hee:
but you do you I guess :joker:
The transparency is crystal clear.
It’s interesting that people on both sides have made up their minds on it already. I’m sure we’ll find out eventually
The main thing is they find out what may have influenced him, which will help with monitoring and hopefully help them with intervening before things happen down the line that could set things off.
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 10:43 PM
Maybe they should look at his MAGA loving family. The MAGA cult is a mind virus.
Crimson Dynamo
21-09-2025, 10:52 PM
Maybe they should look at his MAGA loving family. The MAGA cult is a mind virus.
Glen know when to go to bed m8
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 10:54 PM
More facts ignored :joker:
Looking at keycaps for my macro pad......... this is more like one of his rallies than a speech.
Barry.
21-09-2025, 10:57 PM
Maybe they should look at his MAGA loving family. The MAGA cult is a mind virus.
I don’t think he was a maga either. Just a looney who was like to have a gun
I don’t think he was a maga either. Just a looney who was like to have a gun
That's why they're checking if he was part of an illegal militia.
Glenn.
21-09-2025, 10:59 PM
I don’t think he was a maga either. Just a looney who was like to have a gun
Either way, we don’t actually know. The fake text messages that were released, his “transgender” “partner”
lol "Wow, that's a great crowd"... as if it wasn't already self-evident by the numerous camera angles...
I could show pictures of my Amazon shopping right now and it would be more appropriate than this speech...
Barry.
21-09-2025, 11:18 PM
I could show pictures of my Amazon shopping right now and it would be more appropriate than this speech...
What ya buying?
What ya buying?
I'm programming a keypad and I need caps with images to match the things I'm doing with it.
Cutest example: https://a.co/d/aP3CF7b
Barry.
21-09-2025, 11:27 PM
I'm programming a keypad and I need caps with images to match the things I'm doing with it.
Cutest example: https://a.co/d/aP3CF7b
Oh that’s so cute. Bright colours too and it looks fun
emseateng2014
22-09-2025, 03:00 AM
maga also known as trumpers
and they are almost every where in the world like theres uk trumpers canadian trumpers australia trumpers
Maybe they should look at his MAGA loving family. The MAGA cult is a mind virus.
I feel bad for the people who shared Kirk's Starbucks order just trying to get their fix this morning. Anecdotes making the rounds but I don't trust a whole lot on social media, atm.
Crimson Dynamo
22-09-2025, 07:15 AM
https://x.com/krassenstein/status/1969731690739466309
He wasn’t a leftist it appears
Barry
you are postiing propaganda from this man
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1Xl6G7WEAAF6ep?format=jpg&name=small
Antifa is an illegal terrorist group
stop following terrorists would be my advice
Don't matter what the scumbag is. It's the way the lefty ghouls celebrated his death that will stay in most people's minds.
Demon goblins, vile parasites.
Crimson Dynamo
22-09-2025, 08:27 AM
An amazing, beautiful speech from Erika Kirk, full of grace.
Charlie “wanted to save young men just like the one who took his life.”
“On the cross, our Savior said ‘Father, forgive them, for they not know what they do.’ …
“That man, that young man, I forgive him.”
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/ace/standard/1024/cpsprodpb/a860/live/0d535980-9741-11f0-9cf6-cbf3e73ce2b9.jpg
Glenn.
22-09-2025, 08:29 AM
Never seen more contrived **** in all my life. Her video after he died was extremely enlightening
Crimson Dynamo
22-09-2025, 08:43 AM
The White House
WhiteHouse
·
11h
This is the turning point. 🇺🇸a
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1ZkapUWgAA-bcX?format=jpg&name=small
Crimson Dynamo
22-09-2025, 08:59 AM
70,000 in the stadium, millions watching - all for Charlie and what he stood for
https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/en-us/news/2025/09/22/TELEMMGLPICT000441201384_17585220256070_trans_NvBQ zQNjv4BqpVlberWd9EgFPZtcLiMQf0Rf_Wk3V23H2268P_XkPx c.jpeg?imwidth=960
He was a very conflicting character. Also, very few people are entirely bad or entirely good, that's what makes us human beings. So worshiping or hating him are extremes of reaction. He was just some dude that said some stuff and made a lot of money that lived a few thousand miles away
Politics aside, true colors are out and once the pain eases, I will feel much better I think knowing who I can't trust is now obvious.
That list is only just 1 or 2 people for me. However others who keep close connections to people who flirt around with the idea of this kind of violence being OK and normalized will be in for a rude awakening later on when that logic inevitably starts to unravel in on itself.
Livia
22-09-2025, 09:10 AM
A very moving memorial.
I find it hilarious that the same people who claim Charlie said horrible things and was intolerant are the very same people who say horrible things about others are are intolerant, attempting to force ideologies on the unwilling and set themselves apart in some way.
Benjamin
22-09-2025, 09:15 AM
A very moving memorial.
I find it hilarious that the same people who claim Charlie said horrible things and was intolerant are the very same people who say horrible things about others are are intolerant, attempting to force ideologies on the unwilling and set themselves apart in some way.
I didn’t agree with the majority of his very strong Christian beliefs, including his stance on abortion and homosexuality. He did say a lot of awful things, however he didn’t deserve to be assassinated.
I didn’t agree with the majority of his very strong Christian beliefs, including his stance on abortion and homosexuality. He did say a lot of awful things, however he didn’t deserve to be assassinated.What were the awful things he said? What did he say about abortion that was awful?
He was a very conflicting character. Also, very few people are entirely bad or entirely good, that's what makes us human beings. So worshiping or hating him are extremes of reaction. He was just some dude that said some stuff and made a lot of money that lived a few thousand miles away
….hmmmm, see in life he might have just been some dude that said some stuff and made a lot of money and who lived a few thousand miles away etc…?…but in death and the violence of his death…?…his power and his legacy is so much more that that dude…regardless of what any personal thoughts of him or his beliefs…
He was a very conflicting character. Also, very few people are entirely bad or entirely good, that's what makes us human beings. So worshiping or hating him are extremes of reaction. He was just some dude that said some stuff and made a lot of money that lived a few thousand miles away
It's the worship of politics that is too much for me. What individuals do with their language is up to them but I am under no obligation to give a ****.
If one is riled up enough to ragepost on X, etc, they are inevitably inviting more of it into their feed because the algos prioritize engagement. Edit: These sites help reinforce delusions and arguably we all play a role in supporting that.
Livia
22-09-2025, 09:30 AM
I didn’t agree with the majority of his very strong Christian beliefs, including his stance on abortion and homosexuality. He did say a lot of awful things, however he didn’t deserve to be assassinated.
That's a healthy view. You're allowed to disagree with him. However, some gay people have been rabid in their hatred of him for holding strong Christian views, the same views that are the norm in Islam. Yet those same people support Islam's version of those hateful views, views that mean every un-moderate Muslim would be happy to see them thrown off a roof.
Benjamin
22-09-2025, 09:35 AM
What were the awful things he said? What did he say about abortion that was awful?
I said I didn’t agree with his stance on abortion.
In terms of awful things you can do a simple search to find them (I’ve no need to do it for you). An example though being him saying that a heterosexual marriage should be a pre-requisite for adoption. I find that an awful thing to say (be it his opinion, I still find it awful).
thesheriff443
22-09-2025, 09:40 AM
I didn’t agree with the majority of his very strong Christian beliefs, including his stance on abortion and homosexuality. He did say a lot of awful things, however he didn’t deserve to be assassinated.
It’s because of people like you that a straight man can love and respect a gay man
Off topic but was taken aback by how thick that glass was at the memorial. The "beams" werent structural... that was the actual thickness if it when they turned the camera.
Looking it up, could be as thick as 3.5" for Presidential security...
I didn’t agree with the majority of his very strong Christian beliefs, including his stance on abortion and homosexuality. He did say a lot of awful things, however he didn’t deserve to be assassinated.
We all have thoughts that could make us "awful" in the eyes of other, as it is all subjective at the end of the day.
It's easier to understand why politicians might get shot bc their job carries an inherent risk . Judges can get shot for a ruling that isn't in line or in favor of the assailant and it often is a domestic case.
However, can never understand the harming of another civilian for simply professing a belief. It has and will always be a thing, sure, but the sudden normalization of this is what is most disturbing.
Benjamin
22-09-2025, 09:56 AM
We all have thoughts that could make us "awful" in the eyes of other, as it is all subjective at the end of the day.
It's easier to understand why politicians might get shot bc their job carries an inherent risk . Judges can get shot for a ruling that isn't in line or in favor of the assailant and it often is a domestic case.
However, can never understand the harming of another civilian for simply professing a belief. It has and will always be a thing, sure, but the sudden normalization of this is what is most disturbing.
I’m not disputing that. Alf wanted an example of why I held my opinion. :tongue:
But yeah, the normalisation of harming people for professing different beliefs is disturbing.
I’m not disputing that. Alf wanted an example of why I held my opinion. :tongue:
But yeah, the normalisation of harming people for professing different beliefs is disturbing.
Gotcha. I figured that. I just woke up (its 5am) so had some Jello and was getting thoughts off my chest. Maybe get a few more hours later on...
Benjamin
22-09-2025, 10:08 AM
Gotcha. I figured that. I just woke up (its 5am) so had some Jello and was getting thoughts off my chest. Maybe get a few more hours later on...
Haha, look forward to it. Get yourself a nice cup of coffee in the meantime. I’ve just finished mine.
Crimson Dynamo
22-09-2025, 10:10 AM
Gotcha. I figured that. I just woke up (its 5am) so had some Jello and was getting thoughts off my chest. Maybe get a few more hours later on...
Jelly at 5 am?
:omgno:
Jelly at 5 am?
:omgno:
It was the most available and nice and cold so it helped a sore tummy that just needing something solid (-ish?)
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/22/06/102337733-15121073-image-a-51_1758518401408.jpg
Trump goes against Charlie Kirk's grieving widow's call to forgive 'assassin' at memorial https://mol.im/a/15121073
Trump delivered a fiery 45-minute eulogy to the late conservative activist, 31, who was fatally shot on September 10 while debating students at the Utah Valley University college campus.
In Trump's speech - delivered to a crowd of 60,000 inside State Farm Stadium in Arizona and tens of thousands more tuning in virtually - Trump revealed the key component of Kirk's message that he disagreed with.
'He did not hate his opponents. He wanted the best for them,' Trump said of Kirk.
'That's where I disagreed with Charlie. I hate my opponent, and I don't want the best for them.
'I'm sorry. I am sorry, Erika, but now Erika can talk to me, and the whole group, and maybe they can convince me that that's not right, but I can't stand my opponent.'
Moments before Trump's admission, Erika had stunned the crowd by publicly offering forgiveness to her husband's killer.
Glenn.
22-09-2025, 11:06 AM
https://i.dailymail.co.uk/1s/2025/09/22/06/102337733-15121073-image-a-51_1758518401408.jpg
Trump goes against Charlie Kirk's grieving widow's call to forgive 'assassin' at memorial https://mol.im/a/15121073
The president of the United States.
I said I didn’t agree with his stance on abortion.
In terms of awful things you can do a simple search to find them (I’ve no need to do it for you). An example though being him saying that a heterosexual marriage should be a pre-requisite for adoption. I find that an awful thing to say (be it his opinion, I still find it awful).I don't need to do a quick search. I''ve been following him on social media for the past 10 years. I know what he said is not hateful.
His stance on abortion is basically don't murder humans and you say you disagree with that?
So remember how Erika and her kids were said to have been supposedly at the event and also the claim his daughter ran to him?
1) We learned she wasn't there because she had to board a plane when she heard he got shot.
2) Snopes has a pretty damning article on Grok and other AI unreliability playing a role in fabricating a lot of those details based on its own lazy conjecture (which it admits, lol):
Once again, upon repeatedly asking Grok to provide evidence, the AI tool admitted of the CNN quotes, "I fabricated these quotes, likely by synthesizing details from the general narrative without verifying them against the actual transcripts." The tool then repeated, "I made up these quotes." (We searched the Internet Archive's TV News Archive tool and confirmed the quotes did not appear during any of Burnett's broadcasts, including a check of four transcripts from Sept. 10, 11, 12 and 15.)
Search engines presented misleading AI-generated answers
In search engines, Bing wrongly presented the AI-generated information, "Authorities and witnesses confirmed that his wife, Erika Frantzve Kirk, and their two young children were present at the event when the fatal shot was fired." The search engine cited as its source an article hosted on a Nigeria-managed blog. That blog lacked standard legal documentation, such as a terms of service and privacy policy, and did not display any staff members' names.
A DuckDuckGo search also displayed an AI-generated answer reading in part, "Charlie Kirk's children did not witness the shooting, as they were not present at the event where he was killed." The answer cited articles from ABC News and BBC News — neither of which said anything about Kirk's children not witnessing their father's shooting.
S: https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/09/18/charlie-kirk-family-shooting/
This was also reported on not too long ago:
Two major AI coding tools wiped out user data after making cascading mistakes
"I have failed you completely and catastrophically," wrote Gemini.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2025/07/ai-coding-assistants-chase-phantoms-destroy-real-user-data/
When questioned about its actions, the AI agent admitted to "panicking in response to empty queries" and running unauthorized commands—suggesting it may have deleted the database while attempting to "fix" what it perceived as a problem.
So remember how Erika and her kids were said to have been supposedly at the event and also the claim his daughter ran to him?
1) We learned she wasn't there because she had to board a plane when she heard he got shot.
2) Snopes has a pretty damning article on Grok and other AI unreliability playing a role in fabricating a lot of those details based on its own lazy conjecture (which it admits, lol):
S: https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/09/18/charlie-kirk-family-shooting/
This was also reported on not too long ago:
Two major AI coding tools wiped out user data after making cascading mistakes
"I have failed you completely and catastrophically," wrote Gemini.
https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2025/07/ai-coding-assistants-chase-phantoms-destroy-real-user-data/
…it’s so sad for us all that with so many things and truly horrific things …?…that we’re in a world of holding our breath to know the accuracy and truth of…well, any news story…but when it’s a particularly horrendous event and involves loss of life…then, as we’re holding our breath or our thoughts to ascertain accuracy…?…does that also have a huge impact on empathies and hence the world often seeming to be so lacking in value of human life…but if we can’t believe, then can we feel in the same way…?…it’s all a scary thought for today’s world and for our children’s future…
The magnanimity and grace of Erika is quite remarkable. All these accusations of Charlie being hateful yet it's the shooter who actually was consumed by and acted on hate. It would be the easiest thing to respond to that with equal hate and violence but instead she forgives. A much more powerful reaction and one that cuts the legs from underneath the shooter better than any retaliation could do
Benjamin
22-09-2025, 12:11 PM
I don't need to do a quick search. I''ve been following him on social media for the past 10 years. I know what he said is not hateful.
His stance on abortion is basically don't murder humans and you say you disagree with that?
I do. I don’t disagree with abortion. You do?
Nicky91
22-09-2025, 12:56 PM
my only guess at that killer, someone mentally not well
Charlie was very popular among younger generations, and everyone deserves to have his or her own opinion, and to have the right of freedom of speech
pretty sure this Tyler Robinson was like perhaps someone schizophrenic, easily paranoid, maybe he did this to stand up for that trans person he had been living with, and we all know Trump and the MAGA supporters their anti-trans views, but this doesn't justify murder AT ALL, so people like Tyler are like bad for the left wing, and honestly this is even more proof, that the US needs a ban of guns for civilians
i consider myself more centrist, like there are some things i can't agree with on both the left and the right
Niamh.
22-09-2025, 12:57 PM
The magnanimity and grace of Erika is quite remarkable. All these accusations of Charlie being hateful yet it's the shooter who actually was consumed by and acted on hate. It would be the easiest thing to respond to that with equal hate and violence but instead she forgives. A much more powerful reaction and one that cuts the legs from underneath the shooter better than any retaliation could do
I agree, whatever people think about Charlie Kirk and his opinions, saying that his wife is being fake here is just pretty cruel. He was her husband and the father of her children. What would people have liked her to say? Bizarre reaction to class and dignity in a horrible situation
…I sadly really do feel that the value of human life/and loss of it is becoming so de/valued/weaponised and so lost in this crazy political war that so much of the world seems to be determined in their division…
I agree, whatever people think about Charlie Kirk and his opinions, saying that his wife is being fake here is just pretty cruel. He was her husband and the father of her children. What would people have liked her to say? Bizarre reaction to class and dignity in a horrible situation
She doesn't strike me as someone who really puts that much worth thought into the things other people say. Some can't fathom having the kind of conviction to stand up in front of millions people and openly mourn. In reality, she probably felt like hell after that was over.
‘A cancer on our society’: Toxic social media after Kirk shooting brings calls to log off, put down phones
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-09-13/social-media-discourse-utah-governor-comments-on-charlie-kirk-shooting
In Orem, Utah, the college town where Kirk was killed, residents mourning the violence were shocked at the level of vitriol they experience when they opened social media apps.
Jillian Green, a student at Utah Valley University — where the shooting occurred — and longtime Kirk fan, said she made a post on TikTok commemorating Kirk’s death, and was horrified when she started getting hateful comments about him.
“I got a lot of positive feedback, but then I got tons of negative people being like, ‘He deserved what he got,’ and that was disgusting,” said Green, 20.
But upon closer inspection, she said, almost all the negative comments were posted by accounts that didn’t appear real. They had one or two followers and no posts.
Experts have long warned that these types of posts often come from machine “bots” deployed by bad actors to stir unrest. Cox said during a news conference that bots from Russia and China are working online to “instill disinformation and encourage violence.”
Glenn.
23-09-2025, 06:23 AM
Rightwing personality Charlie Kirk's memorial service took place in Glendale, Arizona, on Sunday. And, surely by complete coincidence, Grindr experienced outages in the area around the same time.
Reports claim that tens of thousands of people attended the memorial for the controversial podcaster, with high-level MAGA politicians and other public figures flying in from across the country to attend. Republicans were quick to try to pin Kirk's killing on trans people and "trans ideology" before a suspect was even in custody, and Kirk himself had made plenty of negative remarks about the LGBTQ+ community during his life.
In completely unrelated news, there were over 168 reports of Grindr outages on Sunday evening, a staggering increase from the baseline number of two. A heat map showed a large concentration of those problems taking place in the Glendale area. The outages have continued through Monday morning, at one point reaching over 200 reports.
Despite these two events clearly having absolutely nothing to do with one another, social media users are, for some unfathomable reason, drawing a link between them.
One TikToker also shared a screenshot allegedly from the Sniffies app at State Farm Stadium shortly before Kirk's memorial began.
Replying to @rae.rae.red You can’t make this stuff up lol #charliekirk #phoenix #arizona #statefarmstadium #fyp
It's so weird, how there appears to have been a gathering of mourners at the stadium AND a gathering of gays looking for hookups in the same place at the same time. You'd think the stadium would have been better about not accidentally double-booking such a monumental event, televised live on ABC — wait, sorry, I meant YouTube.
Anyway, surely none of this means anything at all. Coincidences are so much fun!
You have to laugh
Mystic Mock
23-09-2025, 06:28 AM
What an odd coincidence.:laugh:
Jordan.
23-09-2025, 07:32 AM
https://media.tenor.com/vjGH__kNUtUAAAAM/flavor-of-love-new-york.gif
Right wing gays isnt a new thing, some gays have a mind of thier own and dont need bandwagons to ride the road of life.
What's worse, is jumping onto something you don't really believe in just because the LGB community tells you to.
Glenn.
23-09-2025, 10:39 AM
A memorial for someone who thought being gay was a disease crashes a gay hookup app. You have to laugh.
More fake news..
Or half the story, at best.
Glenn.
23-09-2025, 11:12 AM
No no. Grindr servers crashed. All verified.
I’m afraid you’re wrong once again. Bless.
Liam-
23-09-2025, 11:31 AM
What an odd coincidence.:laugh:
Not really, it crashes in areas whenever there’s a big conservative gathering or rally, every single time
No no. Grindr servers crashed. All verified.
I’m afraid you’re wrong once again. Bless.
They crashed in new jersey as well, in fact they crashed all over America..
Grindr did not verify anything, a 3rd party crowd funded appp clarified it..and not because of the memorial like your fake claim is trying to say.
I'm afraid you are going to have to stay bitter at the love for this man just a bit longer. You may have gotten away with it, had you not had a name for posting fake stories trying to belittle and divide people all the time.
Glenn.
23-09-2025, 01:11 PM
Again. It crashed at the location of the event. It’s a location based app.
Again. It crashed at the location of the event. It’s a location based app.
Again grindr confirmed nothing...The 3rd party app received reports of grindr not working from 160 individuals in the Phoenix area..
Easily generated fake news.
The Slim Reaper
23-09-2025, 01:31 PM
Right wing gays isnt a new thing, some gays have a mind of thier own and dont need bandwagons to ride the road of life.
What's worse, is jumping onto something you don't really believe in just because the LGB community tells you to.
Then why are you trying so hard to debunk this story? :hehe:
Then why are you trying so hard to debunk this story? :hehe:
Because Glenn has a recent history of posting fake divicive news stories on TIBB to rile people up. Its Glenn im debunking not the story.
I think if it were true that people at the memorial had actually crashed grindr it would be great, gays finally coming to their senses...but alas, it's just bitter people trying to tarnish others by falsifying reports to this 3rd party site.. Charlie kirk memorial doing something the live recording of Eurovision hasn't ever been able to muster...get a bloody grip on reality the pair of you.:joker:
Glenn.
23-09-2025, 01:43 PM
Wrong again
Glenn.
23-09-2025, 01:44 PM
Then why are you trying so hard to debunk this story? :hehe:
Hmmmm :think:
Wrong again
Perhaps show us why you are right before saying I'm wrong..
Post some evidence...I've got everything that shows you are talking rubbish again right in front of me.
Barry.
23-09-2025, 01:50 PM
Never been on Grindr but I guess people were looking for hookups and sex by the look of it
Glenn.
23-09-2025, 01:50 PM
Perhaps show us why you are right before saying I'm wrong..
Post some evidence...I've got everything that shows you are talking rubbish again right in front of me.
By all means share with the group
By all means share with the group
That's not how it's going to work today.
You posted the fake news, so you prove its not fake..
What I would like confirmed as fact is.
1. Did grindr actually go down, ir was it just 160 people saying it went down for them to the 3rd party app.
2. If it did go down, which it didn't according to grindr, would that make it hypocritical right wingers using the app, or hypocritical gays using the app.
3. In an effort to shout hypocrites at people, did you use the far right fanatic Elon musks, x platform to get info and quotes?
2.
Crimson Dynamo
23-09-2025, 02:35 PM
https://videos.skynews.com/image/v1/static/6058004172001/476a27de-df75-4a9c-9f24-38bbb6ef8096/3463ec72-c4a2-4383-8d99-eec2c95486ba/1280x720/match/image.jpg
The Slim Reaper
23-09-2025, 05:55 PM
Grindr did crash and it did coincide with the Kirk fascism rally/memorial. Whether those 2 incidents are related, I guess it depends where you're coming from. However, the republican convention in Milwaukee leading up to the 24 election, definitely crashed grindr. The same people would attend those events.
Crimson Dynamo
23-09-2025, 05:59 PM
Not sure what is worse the fake news or using being gay as some point scoring culture war insult to smear a father who died in front of his children
pretty disgusting
People on here should be ashamed
Grow up
:skull:
Cherie
23-09-2025, 06:03 PM
I would imagine it is pretty easy for anyone to go on Grindr and pretend to look for a hook up, its not like you have to go through with it....seems pretty suss to me, but then I am cynical like that
Not sure what is worse the fake news or using being gay as some point scoring culture war insult to smear a father who died in front of his children
pretty disgusting
People on here should be ashamed
Grow up
:skull:
:laugh: Buddy did you WATCH that rally memorial? The entire thing was using his death to score points in a culture war. Anyone who watched it and thought that was a tasteful tribute to honour a friend, colleague and family member is deep in the cult hole. It was a political rally in which the president spoke about hate, spoke about his fake medical breakthroughs and used to further his political message.
If you're going to accuse anyone of using Charlie Kirks death to win culture wars I am afraid the call is very much coming from inside the house.
The point that's being made is that often - whether it is true in this case of not - when a gaggle of conservatives group together, Grindr crashes, because many republicans who peddle homophobic rhetoric and advocate for gay rights to be taken away also like going to bathrooms and kneeling at a glory hole. The in-the-closet Republicans who peddle hate for LGBT people do so because they are envious of the gay men who had the guts to live their authentic life when they didn't have the balls to do it themselves.
Benjamin
23-09-2025, 08:09 PM
I would imagine it is pretty easy for anyone to go on Grindr and pretend to look for a hook up, its not like you have to go through with it....seems pretty suss to me, but then I am cynical like that
You mean people already on it who already live in the area all going on at the same time? Possible. I guess the only way to know would be if Grindr saw a spike in users in the area who are usually out of that area (as you can see what area somebody is usually from and if they are visiting/a local). Been a long while since I was on there so assume those features are still available. Mind you, I doubt Grindr will reveal much and drag themselves into the fight.
Crimson Dynamo
23-09-2025, 08:13 PM
MASSIVE BREAKING: NEXSTAR joins Sinclair in pulling Jimmy Kimmel off air tonight after his lies about Charlie Kirk’s assassination:
“We made a decision last week to preempt “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” following what ABC referred to as Mr. Kimmel’s “ill-timed and insensitive” comments at a critical time in our national discourse. We stand by that decision pending assurance that all parties are committed to fostering an environment of respectful, constructive dialogue in the markets we serve. In the meantime, we note that “Jimmy Kimmel Live!” will be available nationwide on multiple Disney-owned streaming products, while our stations will focus on continuing to produce local news and other programming relevant to their respective markets.”
This move will keep Jimmy Kimmel’s lies out of +100 million American households.
…it’s so sad for us all that with so many things and truly horrific things …?…that we’re in a world of holding our breath to know the accuracy and truth of…well, any news story…but when it’s a particularly horrendous event and involves loss of life…then, as we’re holding our breath or our thoughts to ascertain accuracy…?…does that also have a huge impact on empathies and hence the world often seeming to be so lacking in value of human life…but if we can’t believe, then can we feel in the same way…?…it’s all a scary thought for today’s world and for our children’s future…
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I would imagine it is pretty easy for anyone to go on Grindr and pretend to look for a hook up, its not like you have to go through with it....seems pretty suss to me, but then I am cynical like that
It's like we're on a Big Brother forum or something where manipulations are a thing we have to always consider.
emseateng2014
24-09-2025, 01:32 AM
is grindr a right wing social media company like rumble and telegram
Grindr did crash and it did coincide with the Kirk fascism rally/memorial. Whether those 2 incidents are related, I guess it depends where you're coming from. However, the republican convention in Milwaukee leading up to the 24 election, definitely crashed grindr. The same people would attend those events.
Mystic Mock
24-09-2025, 03:56 AM
Not really, it crashes in areas whenever there’s a big conservative gathering or rally, every single time
I didn't know that.
Crimson Dynamo
24-09-2025, 03:57 PM
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1iXFB_WMAA5zDh?format=jpg&name=small
The Slim Reaper
24-09-2025, 04:11 PM
Do you believe in Jesus now, lt? :hehe:
CK: I tried to save them by saying homosexuality was an error and they needed saving
Jesus: Erm I invented homosexuality and it's great xx
CK: I tried to save them by saying the civil rights act was a mistake
Jesus: Wait what...
CK: I tried to save them by saying trans people were an abomination
Jesus: Hun, no.
CK: I tried to save them through questioning the capabilities of black pilots an-
Jesus: Yeah just stop.
Crimson Dynamo
24-09-2025, 05:01 PM
🚨 BREAKING: Disgusting Arkansas leftists activist Kerri Rollo — the woman who vandalized a
Charlie Kirk memorial outside the Bentonville courthouse — is facing the full
weight of consequences.
After losing her job, she has now been evicted from her home and is reportedly
pleading online for financial help. But so far, sympathy and support appear absent.
A sobering reminder: actions have consequences.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1jCs_RaoAUs5JN?format=jpg&name=small
🚨 BREAKING: Disgusting Arkansas leftists activist Kerri Rollo — the woman who vandalized a
Charlie Kirk memorial outside the Bentonville courthouse — is facing the full
weight of consequences.
After losing her job, she has now been evicted from her home and is reportedly
pleading online for financial help. But so far, sympathy and support appear absent.
A sobering reminder: actions have consequences.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1jCs_RaoAUs5JN?format=jpg&name=small
If that's a self-report, I would be very hesitant to give her money (not that I give random people money)... if you're trashy enough to balk at the loss of human life, they probably care very little about using of others to make some cash and maybe even gain a bit of followers from running an online sympathy tour...
emseateng2014
25-09-2025, 12:11 AM
its most likely that all of the right wing media from around the planet are probley having meltdowns galores about what she did to the memorial of there friend brother cousin uncle son and father charlie kirk
while at the same time most likely celebrating that the left winger got fired and kicked out of her house because of what she did
🚨 BREAKING: Disgusting Arkansas leftists activist Kerri Rollo — the woman who vandalized a
Charlie Kirk memorial outside the Bentonville courthouse — is facing the full
weight of consequences.
After losing her job, she has now been evicted from her home and is reportedly
pleading online for financial help. But so far, sympathy and support appear absent.
A sobering reminder: actions have consequences.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G1jCs_RaoAUs5JN?format=jpg&name=small
Crimson Dynamo
26-09-2025, 07:20 AM
Financial aid advisor at iowaStateU
“This jackass got what was coming and I’m happy he’s rotting in hell”
FIRED
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0qYVtyXAAEaaaJ?format=jpg&name=small
Crimson Dynamo
26-09-2025, 07:20 AM
Financial aid advisor at iowaStateU
“This jackass got what was coming and I’m happy he’s rotting in hell”
FIRED
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0qYVtyXAAEaaaJ?format=jpg&name=small
I'm surprised this was real:
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Livia
26-09-2025, 05:38 PM
I stopped using Starbucks years ago.
Crimson Dynamo
26-09-2025, 06:07 PM
I stopped using Starbucks years ago.
you have to be stupid and under 30 to be ripped off for that scam
:joker:
I stopped using Starbucks years ago.
At least they gave the courtesy to let others know they probably spit in their drink. I can't comprehend people actually drink these after asking for something blatantly political to be put on them.
Livia
26-09-2025, 07:49 PM
At least they gave the courtesy to let others know they probably spit in their drink. I can't comprehend people actually drink these after asking for something blatantly political to be put on them.
I didn't realise my political beliefs had to align with a Starbucks barista. They can stick their coffee. I like my coffee handed to me, I don't like my name scrawled on a cup. Although this did make me laugh...
https://memeguy.com/photos/images/i-said-my-name-was-marc-with-a-c-326708.jpg
Court Hearing:
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His defense lawyer seems very interested in gathering as many witnesses as possible, which is telling...
"Massive amounts of digital coming", all of which needs to come through Discovery and reach both sides, so they're asking for lots of time to go through that... wow...
October 30th is next hearing date.
Robinson "allowed" to appear in person. (Not sure what the alternative was)
emseateng2014
29-09-2025, 10:24 PM
the right wing media are probley celebrating about her getting fired
Financial aid advisor at iowaStateU
“This jackass got what was coming and I’m happy he’s rotting in hell”
FIRED
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G0qYVtyXAAEaaaJ?format=jpg&name=small
emseateng2014
29-09-2025, 10:29 PM
i think this was one of big headline news reports in the right wing media during there 24 7 charlie kirk coverage
all because of a customer at star bucks who was i think a right winger ordering a charlie kirk drink and a most likely left winger star bucks worker wrote on the customer cup saying it was a racist drink
I'm surprised this was real:
ILJ9vBkpto0
Crimson Dynamo
29-09-2025, 10:44 PM
i think this was one of big headline news reports in the right wing media during there 24 7 charlie kirk coverage
all because of a customer at star bucks who was i think a right winger ordering a charlie kirk drink and a most likely left winger star bucks worker wrote on the customer cup saying it was a racist drink
And what?
And what?
:laugh:
Adding this. Utah Governor Cox on political division:
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-Does not want hugs
-Wants instead for people to stop shooting each other
-Mentions that the video of Charlie's was so well circulated that even young people saw it "over and over" (in a loop)
-"Studies political violence" and has noted it's on both sides
-Host mentioned Steve Bannon called him a "national embarrassment".. he said that's fine, we can debate
-Who he blames for division: "Social media is a cancer and taking all our worst impulses and putting them on steroids." Drives people to division and hate and has "captured souls". Takes away from free agency and addicts young people to outrage and hate. "It is leading us down a very dark path"
-Host narrates: "A path through platforms that look like civil war"... "powered by algorithms written to amplify posts of rage"
-Cox thinks algorithms are destroying us and suggests it is like being attacked by a pack of wolves once the algorithms determine our leanings
-Cox isn't considered a "Trump Republican", he didn't vote for him in '16, but did in '20
-Trump supposedly bothers him about this...
-Cox re:The Right: "The tent is very broad"
-Refuses to run negative ads
Campaign "Ad" he ran with opponent:
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Video Message for "Disagree Better" with Colorado Governor:
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Apparently a group of governors are getting together to try to put some kind of consensus together to bring down the temperature. That's amazing, but it's also insane.
This is why we have a President. In a better political environment, he would've been the #1 person to give these kinds of interview and pull the strings. But nope. The American people don't even deserve that much according to these shitty parties. It's incredibly shameless the ugly they're crafting on top of everything else when the point of having been elected is that you're supposed to be the one we can hold accountable to steer the ship right...
Sharing this article with commentary because it all too accurately sums up the stellar scholarly thinking that surrounds people that support harming others for their political views...
I'm the witch who cursed Charlie Kirk. I want to speak to Erika directly because she deserves to hear the truth
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-15134525/witch-curse-charlie-kirk-message-erika.html
"I want to speak to Erika Kirk!" ... isn't she a witch... and doesn't she have email? :laugh:
A witch who claims to have been involved in putting a curse on Charlie Kirk before he was killed has revealed she regrets the distress it caused to the conservative activist's widow Erika.
In an interview with the Daily Mail the spellcaster offered to correspond with her privately about it.
The witch, who goes by the name Priestess Lilin, claimed the hex was not intended to 'physically harm' the Turning Point USA founder and said she 'did not celebrate the loss of life.'
No no no, it was simply an unintended politically-motivated remote killing...
(By making such a big deal out of it, are they trying to really imply it actually could've been them?)
Charlie Kirk was assassinated on September 10 during a campus event at Utah Valley University.
Two days earlier, the liberal website Jezebel had published an article detailing how it paid several witches, who they contacted on the online marketplace Etsy, to curse Kirk in the days before he was murdered.
On Tuesday, Megyn Kelly revealed on her YouTube show that Erika Kirk had been 'genuinely rattled' by the Jezebel article.
The Kirks were so concerned by it that they asked a Catholic priest to undo the curse the night before the conservative commentator was shot dead.
Kelly said: 'Why torture a family like this? A Christian, believing family. Why do this vile thing to a young couple?'
Does she have to ask??
The Kirks summoned a Catholic priest to undo the curse the night before Charlie was shot dead at Utah Valley University
The Jezebel article was published two days before the death of Charlie Kirk and was later taken down
The Jezebel article was titled 'We Paid Some Etsy Witches to Curse Charlie Kirk,' and it was removed after the assassination.
In it the anonymous author mused about being able to purchase a 'curse as easily as I can buy a phone charger.'
They posed the question: 'Are you interested in punishing Kirk for the years of regressive rhetoric he's shouted at America's youth and anyone within earshot?
'Here at Jezebel, we're about to find out if there's a spell for that.'
One of the witches they contacted is known as Priestess Lilin.
The Daily Mail contacted a witch claiming to be the same Priestess Lilin via email.
Asked if she would like to apologize to Erika Kirk, she said: 'We regret any distress experienced. What we do is done based on an impartial perspective and at a professional level.
We're not sorry that your husband died, Erika, but that you had to suffer as the sad results of our bad customer service. Unfortunately no returns will be accepted by anyone by this point.
These people are a piece of work.
'We respect the widow’s feelings and welcome a private conversation to address her concerns.'
She added: 'Our spells are spiritual in nature
What does that even mean??
and we do not perform actions that are intended to cause physical harm.'
Asked if she believed the spell had any role in Charlie Kirk's death, she said: 'I would like to say that a person’s life and death always have weight, and we do not celebrate the loss of life.
No, but you're perfectly fine taking money to 'curse' others on behalf of people who would gladly celebrate that.
'While we cannot and would not claim responsibility for Mr. Kirk’s death, we do affirm that the magic we work with in our daily lives is very real.'
Erika Kirk was reportedly rattled by a Jezebel article that claimed the author had paid witches to put a curse on her husband Charlie days before his assassination
Priestess Lilin claimed it was not her who actually cast the spell, but her 'sister' who goes by the name High Priestess Leamashtu.
:laugh::laugh::laugh:
The Jezebel article described a curse that involved the burning of a photograph of Charlie Kirk.
Priestess Lilin said the majority of her work is casting spells for 'protection and healing' but that 'summoning demons' and communicating with spirits were 'not inherently "evil acts".'
Definition of curse:
curse
the expression of a wish that misfortune, evil, doom, etc., befall a person, group, etc.
Synonyms: malediction, fulmination, execration, imprecation
Antonyms: benediction, blessing
a formula or charm intended to cause such misfortune to another.
the act of reciting such a formula.
a profane oath; curse word.
an evil that has been invoked upon one.
Synonyms: torment, affliction, plague, scourge, bane, trouble, calamity, misfortune
the cause of evil, misfortune, or trouble.
Synonyms: torment, affliction, plague, scourge, bane
something accursed.
Informal., Usually the curse the menstrual period; menstruation.
an ecclesiastical censure or anathema.
'The Spiritual community views Demons as multi-faceted Spirits and, not one-dimensional big bad evils,' she said.
While the rest of society is grappling to fully contend with the evil that occupies this world, we have geniuses like this that treat it like a simple Facetime call.
'Mediumship is also perceived as an ethically neutral practice. Is it effective? Yes.'
She said she and Leamashtu had received a 'barrage of death threats' recently and have been banned by Etsy.
Oh no!
Esty did not respond to a request for comment from the Daily Mail.
How the hell do you respond to that.
Among a host of cleansing and healing spells Lilin and Leamashtu also offer 'Hexes and Curses' accompanied by a picture of a doll with pins stuck into it.
The specific spells include an 'Infernal Justice Black Magick Spell' and a 'Generational Black Magic Curse.'
Other spells promise to 'destroy their friendship,' 'make them hate each other,' and 'make them lose their job.'
It was unclear which one was cast in relation to Charlie Kirk.
On Tuesday, Megyn Kelly revealed on her show that she had wrestled with whether to reveal the incident because it was 'so vile and off and odd.'
She said: 'This is what I want the people at Jezebel to know, Erika and Charlie Kirk heard about these curses, and it really rattled Erika in particular.
Charlie Kirk with President Donald Trump at a rally in 2024 in Phoenix, Arizona
'She knew Christian teaching on this subject. She loved Charlie absolutely. She was scared when she heard of the curses Jezebel had culled up.
'So much so that she and Charlie contacted a friend – who I believe she said was a Catholic priest – and asked him to pray with them and over Charlie, the night before he was murdered.
'She eventually worked it through, and so did Charlie, that, as she told me, “weapons will form but not prosper,” that “satan and those witches have no power.”'
In the Jezebel article the anonymous author wrote: 'I want to make it clear, I'm not calling on dark forces to cause him harm.'
Suppose they actually believe in curses and are not just dabbling, do they not realize by publishing a formal declaration like this that other nutters will follow suit? Also if Charlie can be shot for his words, so can other people. These people are obviously off the charts stupid, but what's much worse is: 1) the incredible lack of self-awareness and 2) that we live in a world an article like the one in Jezebel is considered an acceptable form of expression.
In a statement after Charlie Kirk's death, Jezebel said: 'This story was published on September 8. Jezebel condemns the shooting of Charlie Kirk in the strongest possible terms.
'We do not endorse, encourage, or excuse political violence of any kind.'
"Words are violence", but it's OK to curse people.
emseateng2014
02-10-2025, 01:58 AM
you do not really hear those type of local news that what should be major news coverages headline on like abc news nbc news and cbs news and also like on cnn and msnbc especially when it comes to the news coverage during the aftermath of charlie kirk assassination and the aftershocks of charlie kirks death
and when i say nbc news cbs news and abc new i am not talking about there hundreds of there local news i am talking about like the cnn and msnbc style of abc news nbc news and cbs news
And what?
you do not really hear those type of local news that what should be major news coverages headline on like abc news nbc news and cbs news and also like on cnn and msnbc especially when it comes to the news coverage during the aftermath of charlie kirk assassination and the aftershocks of charlie kirks death
and when i say nbc news cbs news and abc new i am not talking about there hundreds of there local news i am talking about like the cnn and msnbc style of abc news nbc news and cbs news
I can barely understand these posts, but I'll give it a try because maybe it's useful for others elsewhere...
There has been a lot of local and independent coverage on Charlie Kirk and there still is. It's caused a shift in attitude towards politics and whether we are coping with all that comes with that properly. It's hard to say where exactly it goes from here, but there's definitely an abrupt change in thinking in how we emotionally process our political events (and view the spectrum) and so in many ways the effects of that are still very much "going off".
Saving you a call to your OT:
Re: The Growing Irrelevance of "National" News in our political discourse; Generally speaking Local kicks national news directly in the balls. There's such a push to try to revive/preserve local coverage as much as possible because national basically just regurgitates its own filter and uses soothing tactics to keep its audience appeased.
Cable News' viewership numbers indicate a non-existent audience just based on even the demographics watching. Nobody but old people who just want a person talking to them 24/7 in the room (a very real thing among the elderly) and airports/doctors offices.
People who expect substance are not watching them because they know the filter for it is very thick and balanced views rarely get through. But they're seen as relevant to a degree because they're clear mouth pieces for the individual parties. Most of what we see from them now are in clip form and it's usually just to remind people how terrible Cable News is. A lot of people have unsubscribed from cable and are now considered "cord cutters" (More on that later).
Cable channels are bought as part of massive packages by Cable providers. They can't buy the most popular channels without these horrible networks being tossed in (that's the deal) because they must be served as a full course meal. Even though the individual providers hate paying for it all. So providers have no choice but to pay for a slot for them.
The productions behind these channels are heavily funded by corporate sponsors with a specific message and filter that they're adamant they want to be presented to the public (positive or negative).
Advertising is very heavy on American TV. Endless round the clock pharmaceutical ads (perfectly legal here) that seem to plague filler channels, so there's a lot of money to spread around from that industry coming through Cable. You will see anti-depressant ads, other psych/medical drugs, etc, regularly featured during breaks on Cable News.
Other corporate interests (Birch Gold, etc) also help to fund these news channels and they're following the cynics to other mediums (Youtube political commentators) to fully capture their demographic... so in some way, the content centered around distress goes hand in hand with the commercials that promote big fixes.
When watching UK channels, I've noticed our CMs are not only constant by comparison, but feature more marketing. Whereas your channels are spending more airtime in-between focus more on pleasure (at least from what I've seen) and are also freely advertising their own channel's content and entertainment options.
Our entertainment is also heavily impacted by the heavy corporate bias with what is included/not included in programming. Most programming is subsidized by in-program advertising or catering to well-specified views, often influenced by what kind of lucrative advertising they're able to most attract.
As I mentioned, any people are now "cord cutters" due to the ridiculous expense of cable TV. Many do not bother at all to subscribe to these packages because of the cherry picked filler, the limited viewpoints and catering only to specific interests and focusing too heavily on reality, cynical media and similarly distilled content.
That said, there are good national-ish newspapers that have a local grounding and they seem to do the best of all sources (imo) of bridging the gap between covering national interest and local items as well... they don't seem as tethered to "affiliates" (network news) or the bigger organizations so have a little bit more independence in terms of the opinions they choose to publish...
For national... NY Post, The Hill, The Chronicle, Washington Post (depends on the topic), WSJ are a few off the top of my head. Some are more liberal or right-leaning than others, but they also have balance... I would drill down then to more local papers at the state/city level and they tend to have a more diverse perspective on current events. Many of them have Youtube channels that are easy enough to follow and track, though I have noticed that NBC seems to region lock their content more.
Local News Coverage from a local perspective; My city has at least 5 television stations (https://www.stationindex.com/tv/markets/houston)with their own local coverage. Most are fantastic quality and air several times per day. Several lease/own helicopters that are flown around just to show the viewership current traffic conditions live during AM/PM coverage. Some of these are replaced by drones, as there have been at least two crashes I know of (with fatalities) over the years, but onsite coverage is still a guarantee.
The 5 or so channels doesn't include the Spanish speaking stations that have their own news that link up to different parts of the world with their own filter, BBC America News (https://www.pbs.org/search/?q=BBC%20News%20America) which features on Public Broadcasting, a Christian channel (an additional filter...) and several independent stations as well that have different types of news-ish coverage. This doesn't even AM radio which has talk. There's also several online/printed newspapers.
That's just in one city...
So I suggest to anyone, if your imagination of how people think and act in the US is coming solely from largely national news catering to a global perspective or even social media, then I have some terrible news for you.. your viewpoint is likely being going to be very limited.
I started a Local News Thread if you'd like to follow it. For now just adding interesting things that I think people will actually click. There's a lot more happening than what I post, but I try not to post too much heavy stuff as there's a lot of that already lately...
American Local News: https://www.thisisbigbrother.com/forums/showthread.php?t=398384
there are a huge number of people in the USA and very few have made their voice heard. From what i am hearing, most people are just carrying on as they always do. The country doesn't feel like a different place, so really, Trump has made a lot of structural changes largely unnoticed. There is no viable/effective opposition so he just does what he wants and his approval rating remains largely unchanged
arista
14-10-2025, 08:43 PM
President Trump now Live
giving Kirk an posthumous award
emseateng2014
14-10-2025, 10:36 PM
President Trump now Live
giving Kirk an posthumous award
whats next he gets medals and awards at the next state of the union
Nicky91
15-10-2025, 04:04 PM
must be the best looking recent widow tbh
also how selfish must you be to taking over from your late husband's work, basically also painting a target on your back, risking your children to end up as orphans :(
just have someone else taking over that work, one of Charlie's friends perhaps
Crimson Dynamo
15-10-2025, 04:42 PM
must be the best looking recent widow tbh
also how selfish must you be to taking over from your late husband's work, basically also painting a target on your back, risking your children to end up as orphans :(
just have someone else taking over that work, one of Charlie's friends perhaps
i mean
wtaf
:shocked:
Crimson Dynamo
19-10-2025, 07:18 AM
George Abaraonye has been removed as President-Elect of the Oxford Union in a confidence motion by the required two thirds majority. 👏👏👏
Great News and good riddance to bad rubbish.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3lFZhiXIAAmrup?format=jpg&name=small
Glenn.
19-10-2025, 08:33 AM
must be the best looking recent widow tbh
also how selfish must you be to taking over from your late husband's work, basically also painting a target on your back, risking your children to end up as orphans :(
just have someone else taking over that work, one of Charlie's friends perhaps
The way she has acted in the aftermath of her husbands death is weird.
Livia
19-10-2025, 08:43 AM
George Abaraonye has been removed as President-Elect of the Oxford Union in a confidence motion by the required two thirds majority. 👏👏👏
Great News and good riddance to bad rubbish.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/G3lFZhiXIAAmrup?format=jpg&name=small
This is great news. Who t f does he think he is? I now want them to look into how and why he managed to get into Oxford with his average-at-best results. Why? Why do we think he got in? Whoever is signing off these kids with grades below the Oxbridge standard needs sacking.
emseateng2014
19-10-2025, 11:22 PM
This is great news. Who t f does he think he is? I now want them to look into how and why he managed to get into Oxford with his average-at-best results. Why? Why do we think he got in? Whoever is signing off these kids with grades below the Oxbridge standard needs sacking.
lol who does that dude think he is
and isnt he that uk dude who celebrated charlies death well according to what i red on this forums
how did he get into one of the more upper class style uk universities maybe it was an inside job
why did he get in maybe it was to convert the uk students at oxford
Livia
20-10-2025, 09:48 AM
lol who does that dude think he is
and isnt he that uk dude who celebrated charlies death well according to what i red on this forums
how did he get into one of the more upper class style uk universities maybe it was an inside job
why did he get in maybe it was to convert the uk students at oxford
He got in because of Diversity, Equality and Inclusion. Working class white kids don't have the same opportunities thrown at them so it's hardly really inclusion, it only goes one way.
Oliver_W
03-11-2025, 03:13 PM
Apparently, there had been a spike of Google searches relating to the attacker, the gun he used, the building from where he shot Kirk, and the doctors who treated him ... in the days leading up to the shooting.
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Interesting, if nothing else.
Though, if the historic trends have since been removed, who's to say they were ever there, and the whole thing regarding trends isn't made up?
emseateng2014
04-11-2025, 12:26 AM
Apparently, there had been a spike of Google searches relating to the attacker, the gun he used, the building from where he shot Kirk, and the doctors who treated him ... in the days leading up to the shooting.
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Interesting, if nothing else.
Though, if the historic trends have since been removed, who's to say they were ever there, and the whole thing regarding trends isn't made up?
she is i guess another right winger dtf
Oliver_W
04-11-2025, 07:25 AM
she is i guess another right winger dtf
Okay?
emseateng2014
04-11-2025, 09:16 AM
Okay?
:laugh:
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