Late & Live axed

[MTVN]

Quite shocked at this and doesn't bode well for the future of the show after next year. I thought they'd at least trial a shorter format or fewer days a week rather than axe it completely, although I understand that ratings have slumped and they've struggled to find audience members this series

I didn't watch it very often so probably won't miss it too much but it was nice having it there if I wanted an additional fix after the highlights and sometimes it was quite entertaining. I also think both AJ and Will are much better as L&L presenters than they are on the main show so this will expose them even more to criticism

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[Vicky.]

Been useless the few times I have watched tbh

[Maru]

I wonder what that means for gigs for past HMs and if another show will replace it with a different host.

[MTVN]

I wonder what that means for gigs for past HMs and if another show will replace it with a different host.

And what does it mean for backdoor evictions :think:

I feel like this is either the start of a major overhaul which will benefit the show or the start of budget cuts and then salami slicing off different parts of BB until we're left without a show anymore. Could be live feed going next

[thesheriff443]

And what does it mean for backdoor evictions :think:

I feel like this is either the start of a major overhaul which will benefit the show or the start of budget cuts and then salami slicing off different parts of BB until we're left without a show anymore

If it goes I won’t be sad
After this years series I’m surprised it’s survived

[Zizu]

If I would have to guess I would imagine that the panelists were part of the problem .. along with AJ


Looking online the vast majority of viewers only watched the show when Will was presenting it … the producers will present have taken note


Plus the hosts couldn’t control the guests

Cameron B was his loud and obnoxious self and Caroline ran rings around Will and Aj

The actual format was decent enough imho

[OnTheRight]

Ratings have slumped because of the hosts and the freaks they get on the show.

Go Woke, go broke.

[Zizu]

Ratings have slumped because of the hosts and the freaks they get on the show.

Go Woke, go broke.


Yep

Nice concise version of my post

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[OnTheRight]

Yep

Nice concise version of my post

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Great minds and all that... :joker:

[Shaun]

You mean people didn't want to tune in every day after an episode to see what Zeze Mills, David Potts and Jojo Siwa thought?

The reason the older sideshows performed relatively well - and still do for bigger shows such as Strictly, Traitors, the Bake Off, etc - is that they would get (so-called) experts in to shed light on personality types, relationship dynamics, the psychology of being confined etc. Now of course the show is less popular, and the "24/7 no outside world" fundamental has pretty much all but dissipated, there's nothing left to talk about so we just get some twats in to say "I think she's fake" and clap and laugh at toilet humour.

It's a shame it's axed entirely because it certainly could have been tweaked first: different presenters gave it its own identity in the past (Dermot, or Russell, or Rylan etc.) and like others have said, reducing the number of episodes of week could've still made it an interesting watch. The sad fact is: as it was, most people cannot be bothered to watch an episode of the same show every day, let alone an hour of some Z-listers scrambling around with no professionalism or talent afterwards under the ring-leading of two largely terrible presenters, afterwards as well.

[Benjamin]

Let’s be honest, L&L was bloody awful most nights. I gave up watching a lot of the time.

I think this is the start of ITV axing civilian BB completely, especially given how poorly this season was received and performed.

[joeysteele]

I rarely watched it this series to be honest.

It descends into muddle and a load of noise when A J does it..
Will was better doing it..

It was in the end just a mess.

[Strictly Jake]

Can't say im bothered

[rsefitpro2011]

I rarely watched Late & Live, and when i did i fast forwarded parts of the show. Whether this a longer term sign that BB is going to be axed only time will tell over that.

However we do know that Celeb BB and the original one will be returning in 2026, it is an important year for the show.

[thesheriff443]

Richard and Tate on a TikTok live now

[Crimson Dynamo]

Ratings have slumped because of the hosts and the freaks they get on the show.

Go Woke, go broke.

this

pandering to a tiny minority of degenerates that do not represent the people who watch the show.

I am glad its gone

go woke

go broke

[bots]

I think people are missing the point. For an after show to be successful, the content they are discussing needs to be compelling. If the main content isn't compelling it doesnt matter who the shows presenters or guests are, it will flop

If the main show is now about curated 1 or 2 minute clips it really doesnt lend itself to an aftershow because the viewers are looking for the shortest level of engagement possible. For the same reason, live feed will be scrapped sooner rather than later

[Zizu]

I think people are missing the point. For an after show to be successful, the content they are discussing needs to be compelling. If the main content isn't compelling it doesnt matter who the shows presenters or guests are, it will flop

If the main show is now about curated 1 or 2 minute clips it really doesnt lend itself to an aftershow because the viewers are looking for the shortest level of engagement possible. For the same reason, live feed will be scrapped sooner rather than later


They could improve Live Stream by 100% by keeping the live stream going and muting conversations when required

I have no idea why we sometimes get hours of garden furniture and eye balls

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

Oh I joked that AJ and Will didn't give a crap on that last episode because their contract was up and that's why they were ruthless with the contestants...so I was right :laugh:

[Ithinkiloveyoutoo]

I wonder what that means for gigs for past HMs and if another show will replace it with a different host.

I think this will be a good idea. Actually, while watching some of the past guests I thought that some of them would make better presenters than AJ

[Maru]

I think this will be a good idea. Actually, while watching some of the past guests I thought that some of them would make better presenters than AJ

Danny Beard has already put in his application

[point17]

Show is bad but we still want something!

Hope they replace with something better.

[Tony Montana]

Hardly watched it at all so not that bothered.

[Benjamin]

Danny Beard has already put in his application

I love him but I can’t stand him on L&L.

[Zizu]

I love him but I can’t stand him on L&L.


He normally makes good points to be fair

[Maru]

I love him but I can’t stand him on L&L.

He normally makes good points to be fair

He has said in past interviews in many ways that would be like a dream job. Maybe not L&L specifically, but something where he can come in and out of drag. A variety show, I guess?

[GoldHeart]

Let’s be honest, L&L was bloody awful most nights. I gave up watching a lot of the time.

I think this is the start of ITV axing civilian BB completely, especially given how poorly this season was received and performed.

If ITV axes BB completely,then I bet yet another channel or stream service will pick it up.

[Ray.]

Maybe if they'd focused less on fulfilling a racial/sexual quota for the guest panellists and more on actually producing a good show, it would have lasted. As it is, L&L was more of an experiment in social engineering than the main show itself is. :laugh: Can only hope it's replaced with something far better. But the rot starts with the production team and so I won't hold my breath. :shrug:

[Zizu]

He has said in past interviews in many ways that would be like a dream job. Maybe not L&L specifically, but something where he can come in and out of drag. A variety show, I guess?


Yeah… I prefer him out of drag for sure

He’d be good hosting a version of ‘Loose Men’

[Zizu]

If ITV axes BB completely,then I bet yet another channel or stream service will pick it up.


Definitely

[Zizu]

Maybe if they'd focused less on fulfilling a racial/sexual quota for the guest panellists and more on actually producing a good show, it would have lasted. As it is, L&L was more of an experiment in social engineering than the main show itself is. :laugh: Can only hope it's replaced with something far better. But the rot starts with the production team and so I won't hold my breath. :shrug:


Agree 100%

[Maru]

Maybe if they'd focused less on fulfilling a racial/sexual quota for the guest panellists and more on actually producing a good show, it would have lasted. As it is, L&L was more of an experiment in social engineering than the main show itself is. :laugh: Can only hope it's replaced with something far better. But the rot starts with the production team and so I won't hold my breath. :shrug:

My husband had a hilarious reaction bc I inadvertantly had him sit through part of L&L because I wanted him present for something else I was doing. I have never seen him want to vacate so badly. He said it was too cringe. I think our marriage was being tested in that moment.

[Ray.]

My husband had a hilarious reaction bc I inadvertantly had him sit through part of L&L because I wanted him present for something else I was doing. I have never seen him want to vacate so badly. He said it was too cringe. I think our marriage was being tested in that moment.

:joker:

What an embarrassing export of ours.

[Benjamin]

:joker:

What an embarrassing export of ours.

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[Ammi]

:joker:

What an embarrassing export of ours.

…hence Trump’s increased tax tariffs, I guess…the UK coming over here, trashing our TV…

[Ray.]

…hence Trump’s increased tax tariffs, I guess…the UK coming over here, trashing our TV…

It's a shame it wasn't ITV who doctored the footage, otherwise Trump could abstain from suing so long as they completely overhauled Big Brother to get it back to what it once was. :hehe: I imagine Trump would be a BB guy, even if The Apprentice were on the other side. :smug:

[Oliver_W]

ITV has said that it's no reflection on the hosts or quality of the show, but of changing TV viewing habits - I call BS on that, as Shaun said, other sideshows do well.

[JoshBB]

It was just a rubbish side show let's be honest, it often felt like they were trying to fill air time rather than add much to the main show. I do hope we get some form of replacement show, a different format maybe or something with less episodes per week, but I can't say I'm surprised if it's been axed tbh

[Gusto Brunt]

Been useless the few times I have watched tbh

I've never watched a whole programme.

I dipped into it last year but it's way too shouty and the guests just ramble on.

It's a waste of time and money.

[millyrose]

I won't miss it, it's not as good as other after show's.

[Maru]

I won't miss it, it's not as good as other after show's.

I don't think many of us are heartbroken. I didn't dislike L&L as a concept. I saw the appeal the moments where there was content, but there was just so much filler and faux pandering. I had it on in the background sometimes as I'm working on things. The guests could be very obnoxious and also loud, so I'd turn that off as most of the time they were just trying way too hard... it wasn't even good background noise and when it's live, it's afternoon here so it wasn't like I had to go to sleep or anything.. it just wasn't even listenable.

[Zizu]

I don't think many of us are heartbroken. I didn't dislike L&L as a concept. I saw the appeal the moments where there was content, but there was just so much filler and faux pandering. I had it on in the background sometimes as I'm working on things. The guests could be very obnoxious and also loud, so I'd turn that off as most of the time they were just trying way too hard... it wasn't even good background noise and when it's live, it's afternoon here so it wasn't like I had to go to sleep or anything.. it just wasn't even listenable.


The panelists were often simply odious and so were a good proportion of the audience

In fact as regards the audience there was only one guy who we saw fairly often who was excellent - the bald guy with a huge ZZ Top beard !

[bots]

i don't think i watched L&L after its first 2 episodes when the show moved to itv. I had stopped watching the aftershow on C5 too

[MTVN]

I like the idea I've seen some people mention of having a weekly Saturday show given they don't do highlights - they reflect on the week, show some unseen footage and can have the evicted housemate from Friday as a guest

[bots]

I like the idea I've seen some people mention of having a weekly Saturday show given they don't do highlights - they reflect on the week, show some unseen footage and can have the evicted housemate from Friday as a guest

saturday night would be ideal as they dont have a highlight show that night and there would be a lot less filler

[Crimson Dynamo]

It had become a shrieking Victorian music hall for alphabet people and general misfits all egged on by 2 pretty poor presenters who cared not about discussion

an embarrassment and an insult to the viewers

good riddance to it and this obsession that BB has with minorities

[Abra]

The format of L&L is fairly dated at this point and it never had the same cheeky humour that BOTS or Big Mouth had, so this doesn't surprise me massively. I'm surprised they didn't go with a more stripped back one-on-one style show like The Traitors or Strictly has.

[Crimson Dynamo]

The format of L&L is fairly dated at this point and it never had the same cheeky humour that BOTS or Big Mouth had, so this doesn't surprise me massively. I'm surprised they didn't go with a more stripped back one-on-one style show like The Traitors or Strictly has.

Yep, it's not hard to look at what is working in similar shows

[Abra]

It had become a shrieking Victorian music hall for alphabet people and general misfits all egged on by 2 pretty poor presenters who cared not about discussion

an embarrassment and an insult to the viewers

good riddance to it and this obsession that BB has with minorities

Bro nobody is obsessed with minorities as much as you are :laugh:

[millyrose]

I do like an after show but L&L for me is rubbish. they need to get rid of the audience and get better presenters.

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[bots]

BB has had nearly 150 million streams on ITV X. I think it's their top streaming show, so why would they axe the main show :laugh:

[Crimson Dynamo]

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[Maru]

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[MTVN]

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Sounds kinda like he's being sarcastic lol