Arguments

[Fraser:)]

Im writing this to say that I'm sick of the petty and trivial arguments that I've come across in this area of the forum.
It is very unpleasant for the other members to have to encounter the threads clogged up by posts from people arguing over trivial and immature things.
I feel I have to scroll endlessly through a thread to get to the information I want due to the multiple posts of petty arguments.

Please stop this. It is given the forum a bad name and I am considering deleting my account as a result of this.

Also, if anyone dares to start an argument over this saying that it is "clogging" the forum ironically, I would just like to remind them that there would be no need to post this if they simply stopped their petty, immature, demoralising, irritating arguments. AND that they are just proving my point by doing so.

Please argue on a one to one basis only in your own time.

Thankyou.

[MrGaryy]

Who are you tell people that, you've only been here one month and made 8 posts.

[*mazedsalv**]

I agree completely.

[officialleafan]

Originally posted by Fraser:)
Im writing this to say that I'm sick of the petty and trivial arguments that I've come across in this area of the forum.
It is very unpleasant for the other members to have to encounter the threads clogged up by posts from people arguing over trivial and immature things.
I feel I have to scroll endlessly through a thread to get to the information I want due to the multiple posts of petty arguments.

Please stop this. It is given the forum a bad name and I am considering deleting my account as a result of this.

Also, if anyone dares to start an argument over this saying that it is "clogging" the forum ironically, I would just like to remind them that there would be no need to post this if they simply stopped their petty, immature, demoralising, irritating arguments. AND that they are just proving my point by doing so.

Please argue on a one to one basis only in your own time.

Thankyou.

I see where your coming from, but in the words of Tracey....Deal with it.

It's a forum, it's not arguing, it's mixed opinions.

It's part of every forum, no matter which forum your on, there will always be arguing.

[Fraser:)]

Point proven. Also my status within the forum is irrelivent. I should be able to enjoy the forum without petty arguments regardless of how many posts I've made.

And I can express my opinion regardless of the length of time I have been a member also.

[Fraser:)]

I don't mind forums where there is healthy debating, officialleafan. But i often come across threads that are purely informative and innocent with no need for petty arguing of a malicious nature which can turn nasty with no need. Completey trivial and immature. I'm glad you agree though.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Fraser:)
Point proven. Also my status within the forum is irrelivent. I should be able to enjoy the forum without petty arguments regardless of how many posts I've made.

And I can express my opinion regardless of the length of time I have been a member also.

If people want to have a debate, or lively discussion then thats their business. If it gets nasty - its still their business, keep out of it and it shouldn't make any difference to you, unless you let it.

[*mazedsalv**]

I agree, but its just different opinions, stuff like this is bound to happen on a forum.

[officialleafan]

Originally posted by Fraser:)
I don't mind forums where there is healthy debating, officialleafan. But i often come across threads that are purely informative and innocent with no need for petty arguing of a malicious nature which can turn nasty with no need. Completey trivial and immature. I'm glad you agree though.

But you've got to understand that some people are more outspoken about their opinions than others.

I agree that arguing does go on here, but sometimes you have to learn to deal with it.

[Jasmeen2]

Fraser,

I would like to suggest to you that you press the off switch, stand up, back away from the computer, put on your coat and shoes, open your front door and enter the real world, where you will find all manner of social interaction - pleasant and otherwise.

Furthermore, if you feel so strongly about this, then maybe having an internet connection isn't for you. You would be wise to spend your money on something more relaxing instead.

If you are angry at feeling the need to write that post, then maybe you should consider seeking some professional psychiatric help.

Kudos on the last part of your post where you insist that nobody contradicts your opinion. Again, I would like to offer you a piece of advice. Look up the definition of "forum" in the dictionary. You will find that it's a place for people to share and discuss their opinions.

I hope this information does not cause you any more unnecessary distress as it's clear you are a man with several emotional issues already.

[*mazedsalv**]

Originally posted by officialleafan
Originally posted by Fraser:)
I don't mind forums where there is healthy debating, officialleafan. But i often come across threads that are purely informative and innocent with no need for petty arguing of a malicious nature which can turn nasty with no need. Completey trivial and immature. I'm glad you agree though.

But you've got to understand that some people are more outspoken about their opinions than others.

I agree that arguing does go on here, but sometimes you have to learn to deal with it.

Check some otehr BB forums, over there they are much worse, I find myself nice and cosy here.

[Fraser:)]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Fraser:)
Point proven. Also my status within the forum is irrelivent. I should be able to enjoy the forum without petty arguments regardless of how many posts I've made.

And I can express my opinion regardless of the length of time I have been a member also.

If people want to have a debate, or lively discussion then thats their business. If it gets nasty - its still their business, keep out of it and it shouldn't make any difference to you, unless you let it.


They make it my business when I have to endlessly scroll pass their arguments in threads to get to the desired info. And on the whole it is usually personal. I dont mind things like e.g.

"Davina is a great host" "No she isnt" in a "Davina" thread.

its the whole idea of:
"Davina is a great host" "No she isnt" "Well you are rubbish at designing eyes" "No i am not, you cant spell properly" that irritates me.

I just hope people see my point and stop the petty arguments.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Who are you tell people that, you've only been here one month and made 8 posts.

It doesn't matter how long you have been here or how many posts you have made, that person is a member on here and can express his/her opinions, which I agree with.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Fraser:)
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Fraser:)
Point proven. Also my status within the forum is irrelivent. I should be able to enjoy the forum without petty arguments regardless of how many posts I've made.

And I can express my opinion regardless of the length of time I have been a member also.

If people want to have a debate, or lively discussion then thats their business. If it gets nasty - its still their business, keep out of it and it shouldn't make any difference to you, unless you let it.


They make it my business when I have to endlessly scroll pass their arguments in threads to get to the desired info. And on the whole it is usually personal. I dont mind things like e.g.

"Davina is a great host" "No she isnt" in a "Davina" thread.

its the whole idea of:
"Davina is a great host" "No she isnt" "Well you are rubbish at designing eyes" "No i am not, you cant spell properly" that irritates me.

I just hope people see my point and stop the petty arguments.

Well, they won't. You're living in a dream world if you think anyone is going to pay a damn bit of notice to this. This thread was destined to start an argument. If you hated scrolling so much you're just going to have to learn to deal with it.

[Fraser:)]

Originally posted by Jasmeen2
Fraser,

I would like to suggest to you that you press the off switch, stand up, back away from the computer, put on your coat and shoes, open your front door and enter the real world, where you will find all manner of social interaction - pleasant and otherwise.

Furthermore, if you feel so strongly about this, then maybe having an internet connection isn't for you. You would be wise to spend your money on something more relaxing instead.

If you are angry at feeling the need to write that post, then maybe you should consider seeking some professional psychiatric help.

Kudos on the last part of your post where you insist that nobody contradicts your opinion. Again, I would like to offer you a piece of advice. Look up the definition of "forum" in the dictionary. You will find that it's a place for people to share and discuss their opinions.

I hope this information does not cause you any more unnecessary distress as it's clear you are a man with several emotional issues already.

I'm seventeen and high up in a profession where I have to deal with people from all walks of life, so that isnt my problem. Its when arguments clog up threads wasting other peoples time. Couldn't they argue in their own time. I must reinforce... im talking about petty arguments when things get PERSONAL. I dont mind healthy debating, after all that is one of the main purposes of a forum.

[officialleafan]

Now lets not argue in a "no arguments thread".

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Gazbo
Who are you tell people that, you've only been here one month and made 8 posts.

It doesn't matter how long you have been here or how many posts you have made, that person is a member on here and can express his/her opinions which I agree with.

I never said that he/she couldn't express their opinion, I was simply making the point that it's a pretty harsh post to make for someone that hasn't been here that long, therefore perhaps not knowing the backgrounds to alot of these arguments (Oh God, this is starting to get more complicated than Lost.)

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Fraser:)
Originally posted by Jasmeen2
Fraser,

I would like to suggest to you that you press the off switch, stand up, back away from the computer, put on your coat and shoes, open your front door and enter the real world, where you will find all manner of social interaction - pleasant and otherwise.

Furthermore, if you feel so strongly about this, then maybe having an internet connection isn't for you. You would be wise to spend your money on something more relaxing instead.

If you are angry at feeling the need to write that post, then maybe you should consider seeking some professional psychiatric help.

Kudos on the last part of your post where you insist that nobody contradicts your opinion. Again, I would like to offer you a piece of advice. Look up the definition of "forum" in the dictionary. You will find that it's a place for people to share and discuss their opinions.

I hope this information does not cause you any more unnecessary distress as it's clear you are a man with several emotional issues already.

I'm seventeen and high up in a profession where I have to deal with people from all walks of life, so that isnt my problem. Its when arguments clog up threads wasting other peoples time. Couldn't they argue in their own time. I must reinforce... Im talking about petty arguments when things get PERSONAL. I dont mind healthy debating, after all that is one of the main purposes of a forum.

How high up can you be at seventeen, lol. It's a fair point to make, but to be realistic, it won't make any difference unfortunatly.

[Fraser:)]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Fraser:)
Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Fraser:)
Point proven. Also my status within the forum is irrelivent. I should be able to enjoy the forum without petty arguments regardless of how many posts I've made.

And I can express my opinion regardless of the length of time I have been a member also.

If people want to have a debate, or lively discussion then thats their business. If it gets nasty - its still their business, keep out of it and it shouldn't make any difference to you, unless you let it.


They make it my business when I have to endlessly scroll pass their arguments in threads to get to the desired info. And on the whole it is usually personal. I dont mind things like e.g.

"Davina is a great host" "No she isnt" in a "Davina" thread.

its the whole idea of:
"Davina is a great host" "No she isnt" "Well you are rubbish at designing eyes" "No i am not, you cant spell properly" that irritates me.

I just hope people see my point and stop the petty arguments.

Well, they won't. You're living in a dream world if you think anyone is going to pay a damn bit of notice to this. This thread was destined to start an argument. If you hated scrolling so much you're just going to have to learn to deal with it.

I hope this thread wasn't destined to start an arguement because thats the last thing I want. I would call this healthy debating which I do not mind at all, and also because its within the correct thread then thats good :)

[Fraser:)]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Fraser:)
Originally posted by Jasmeen2
Fraser,

I would like to suggest to you that you press the off switch, stand up, back away from the computer, put on your coat and shoes, open your front door and enter the real world, where you will find all manner of social interaction - pleasant and otherwise.

Furthermore, if you feel so strongly about this, then maybe having an internet connection isn't for you. You would be wise to spend your money on something more relaxing instead.

If you are angry at feeling the need to write that post, then maybe you should consider seeking some professional psychiatric help.

Kudos on the last part of your post where you insist that nobody contradicts your opinion. Again, I would like to offer you a piece of advice. Look up the definition of "forum" in the dictionary. You will find that it's a place for people to share and discuss their opinions.

I hope this information does not cause you any more unnecessary distress as it's clear you are a man with several emotional issues already.

I'm seventeen and high up in a profession where I have to deal with people from all walks of life, so that isnt my problem. Its when arguments clog up threads wasting other peoples time. Couldn't they argue in their own time. I must reinforce... Im talking about petty arguments when things get PERSONAL. I dont mind healthy debating, after all that is one of the main purposes of a forum.

How high up can you be at seventeen, lol. It's a fair point to make, but to be realistic, it won't make any difference unfortunatly.

I fast tracked because I sat my scottish highers 2 years early and done my honours degree in 2 yrs instead of 3, lol. Long story. But yeah maybe it doesn't appear it will make a big difference, but if it attracts enough people, maybe people will , personal arguments are not fun or anything close to hy debatheaing we should be having.

[Spike]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Originally posted by Spike
Originally posted by Gazbo
Who are you tell people that, you've only been here one month and made 8 posts.

It doesn't matter how long you have been here or how many posts you have made, that person is a member on here and can express his/her opinions which I agree with.

I never said that he/she couldn't express their opinion, I was simply making the point that it's a pretty harsh post to make for someone that hasn't been here that long, therefore perhaps not knowing the backgrounds to alot of these arguments (Oh God, this is starting to get more complicated than Lost.)

Well thats still their impression of TiBB, ok he/she hasn't been here long so they don't know the background story but there are a lot of new members joining coming up to BB9 and it doesn't create a very good impression of TiBB. I bet other people are the feeling the same way and its turning them away from here so I am glad somebody has brought this up because now we know these arguments are having an affect on TiBB's reputation

[AlexBigBrother]

sorry to point out irony, but this thread has started a conflict:tongue:

[Fraser:)]

Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
sorry to point out irony, but this thread has started a conflict:tongue:

Luckily it is in the right place, not petty and healthy debating rather than an argument though :)

[Fraser:)]

Also its not personal and people do not need to scroll pass irrelevant nonsense to get to the desired information because the thread is sticking to its subject.

[chrissy]

Originally posted by Fraser:)
Im writing this to say that I'm sick of the petty and trivial arguments that I've come across in this area of the forum.
It is very unpleasant for the other members to have to encounter the threads clogged up by posts from people arguing over trivial and immature things.
I feel I have to scroll endlessly through a thread to get to the information I want due to the multiple posts of petty arguments.

Please stop this. It is given the forum a bad name and I am considering deleting my account as a result of this.

Also, if anyone dares to start an argument over this saying that it is "clogging" the forum ironically, I would just like to remind them that there would be no need to post this if they simply stopped their petty, immature, demoralising, irritating arguments. AND that they are just proving my point by doing so.

Please argue on a one to one basis only in your own time.

Thankyou.




You have completely controdicted yourself by making this thread!!! you have started the worst "petty" argument i have seen on this forum. And also there will always be arguing on forums because everyone has different opinions, and yes sometimes people say silly things, me included, but at the end of the day we never get personal on this forum and it is the most comfortable forum for BB i have ever been on and i like the members on this forum because they are not afraid to say their opinions and stand up for them, that is not called "petty" arguing its called human nature, the fact you have called this "petty" arguing show the rest of us that you probably dont belong on this forum.

[AlexBigBrother]

right, so your issue is personal arguements, its a fair point!

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by chrissy
Originally posted by Fraser:)
Im writing this to say that I'm sick of the petty and trivial arguments that I've come across in this area of the forum.
It is very unpleasant for the other members to have to encounter the threads clogged up by posts from people arguing over trivial and immature things.
I feel I have to scroll endlessly through a thread to get to the information I want due to the multiple posts of petty arguments.

Please stop this. It is given the forum a bad name and I am considering deleting my account as a result of this.

Also, if anyone dares to start an argument over this saying that it is "clogging" the forum ironically, I would just like to remind them that there would be no need to post this if they simply stopped their petty, immature, demoralising, irritating arguments. AND that they are just proving my point by doing so.

Please argue on a one to one basis only in your own time.

Thankyou.




You have completely controdicted yourself by making this thread!!! you have started the worst "petty" argument i have seen on this forum. And also there will always be arguing on forums because everyone has different opinions, and yes sometimes people say silly things, me included, but at the end of the day we never get personal on this forum and it is the most comfortable forum for BB i have ever been on and i like the members on this forum because they are not afraid to say their opinions and stand up for them, that is not called "petty" arguing its called human nature, the fact you have called this "petty" arguing show the rest of us that you probably dont belong on this forum.

LMAOROFL! You think people don't get personal!

[Fraser:)]

Originally posted by chrissy
Originally posted by Fraser:)
Im writing this to say that I'm sick of the petty and trivial arguments that I've come across in this area of the forum.
It is very unpleasant for the other members to have to encounter the threads clogged up by posts from people arguing over trivial and immature things.
I feel I have to scroll endlessly through a thread to get to the information I want due to the multiple posts of petty arguments.

Please stop this. It is given the forum a bad name and I am considering deleting my account as a result of this.

Also, if anyone dares to start an argument over this saying that it is "clogging" the forum ironically, I would just like to remind them that there would be no need to post this if they simply stopped their petty, immature, demoralising, irritating arguments. AND that they are just proving my point by doing so.

Please argue on a one to one basis only in your own time.

Thankyou.




You have completely controdicted yourself by making this thread!!! you have started the worst "petty" argument i have seen on this forum. And also there will always be arguing on forums because everyone has different opinions, and yes sometimes people say silly things, me included, but at the end of the day we never get personal on this forum and it is the most comfortable forum for BB i have ever been on and i like the members on this forum because they are not afraid to say their opinions and stand up for them, that is not called "petty" arguing its called human nature, the fact you have called this "petty" arguing show the rest of us that you probably dont belong on this forum.


I find the petty arguing does get personal and its the fact it is in the wrong thread and I have to scroll pass endless arguing to get to the desired info that irritates me.

This is not an argument. It is a healthy debate. It is sticking to the topic and there is no personal arguing here. There is no need for endless scrolling because the information is completely relevant to the topic.

If members wish to express their opinions in a constructive manner that is relevant to the thread without deliberately upsetting anyone else then that is what you call "human nature".
I think it is petty arguing when it gets personal, which it does on numerous occasions and becomes trivial and completely irrelivant to the thread.

[chrissy]

Fraser you have created the BIGGEST petty argument i have ever seen on this forum !! irony

[chrissy]

LMAOROFL what the hell is that?

[bigbrotherbest99]

look, there is a divide in TIBB lol like the bb house lol

[AlexBigBrother]

day 17, Fraser is talking to the housemates about arguements

[Fraser:)]

Originally posted by chrissy
Fraser you have created the BIGGEST petty argument i have ever seen on this forum !! irony

No you don't seem to be understanding these terms.

Healthy debating here, relevant to the topic.

Petty arguments (the ones which annoy me) are PERSONAL attacks that clog up individual threads and go off on a tangent becoming totally irrelevant to the thread.

[chrissy]

No this is petty arguing! rongo!

[bigbrotherbest99]

Originally posted by AlexBigBrother
day 17, Fraser is talking to the housemates about arguements

lol thats funny make somthing else up lol

[chrissy]

Day 17, Fraser is talking crap

[bigbrotherbest99]

alexbigbrother is better

[Fraser:)]

Originally posted by chrissy
No this is petty arguing! rongo!

I dont think you are grasping the terms described above. This isnt getting personal as it is still about the general topic of the thread. Therefore it is not what is described as "petty arguing". Every post here is relevant to the topic and not one post has personally attacked anyone. This is healthy debating which i dont mind.

Its the constant clogging of individual thread with petty arguments such as:

"Davina is a good host" "No she isnt" "Well you cant design eyes very well" "Well your hardly Dan Eatock urself" "Go and die in a hole"

that get me annoyed and give the forum a bad name, clog up threads and this is in no way a petty argument here.

[bigbrotherbest99]

i agree as well though, to many row n the mods do nothing about it !

[Fraser:)]

Originally posted by chrissy
Day 17, Fraser is talking c**p

You just proved my point completly. Personal attack, irrelevant to thread topic.

If you had said "Fraser I disagree with you there" that would be healthy debating which is what forums are for.

[chrissy]

Fraser, stick something in your pie-hole please

[chrissy]

Originally posted by Fraser:)
Originally posted by chrissy
Day 17, Fraser is talking c**p

You just proved my point completly. Personal attack, irrelevant to thread topic.

If you had said "Fraser I disagree with you there" that would be healthy debating which is what forums are for.

No, not personal just saying i think what you are saying is crap, not saying that you as a person are crap

[LovelyL]

Fraser you must have known this would start an argument!!...
i think you love it really!! :laugh:

[bigbrotherbest99]

lol

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by chrissy
LMAOROFL what the hell is that?

Laughing My Ass Off Rolling Over ****ing Laughing

[MrGaryy]

Fraser your asking for it . . .

[Fraser:)]

Originally posted by Gazbo
Fraser your asking for it . . .
RGUMENTS
lol, dont think this thread is going the way i wanted it to!

NO MORE PETTY ARGUMENTS* PLEASE :D

HEALTHY DEBATING** IS GOOD THOUGH!

maybe that will get the message across.

* i define petty arguments as posts that personally attack people, irrelevant to thread topic, clog up thread and are generally trivial.

** i define healthy debating as opinions that are expressed without deliberately trying to offend someone and are relevant to the topic of the thread.

[Blink_Me]

You're supposed to debate stuff on a forum, so don't act surprised when people argue.

[Barbie]

i see your point about arguing on here although i haven't seen much of it...
i have to ask you what do you expect to be done about this?
People are people and you cant expect them to all get along. its just like society.. some get on some don't and we all have different views and opinions on things....
so yeah the arguing isn't nice but we all have to get on with it... just move on to the next topic and say no more about it... arguing is something you cant get away from in social interaction

[AlexBigBrother]

here's a philosophical point...
whats the difference between a debate and an argument?
theyre both a conflict of views?

[James]

It is true that people shouldn't argue and should respect one another's views but threads like this usually lead to more arguments so it is locked.