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Matt10k

09-06-2008, 11:43 AM

Originally posted by ProjectWeirdo
Originally posted by Matt10k
If any of them were gay, that haven't already said, we'd be getting stories from exes in the paper for sure by now...

unless they weren't out?

Anyway, Big Brother tells them before they go into the house not to hide anything from them - because they'll find out about it anyway. exes phoning in and stuff like that. I read somewhere something like "Will the public find out about that relationship you had? Yes..."

So I'm pretty sure the housemates would have told Big Brother...

What do you mean if they weren't out? If they had an ex, ie if Dale went out with another man or a few other men, I'd think it'd have come out by now. The papers go digging around their home area. It wouldn't make a differance if he'd come out to his family yet or whatever.

airvirgin

09-06-2008, 11:45 AM

pete was bi?????????????

brohoe

09-06-2008, 11:49 AM

Rex is defo bi

dresses to well and i just have a sense of it, unexplicibaly

Bright-Eyes

09-06-2008, 11:53 AM

Originally posted by brohoe
Rex is defo bi

dresses to well and i just have a sense of it, unexplicibaly
He has a gay dad though so maybe he got style from shopping with him.

big_brother_mad

09-06-2008, 03:13 PM

Originally posted by ProjectWeirdo
I think that's it, lol...

But I really want Dale to be as well, haha.

OMG me too!!! :lovedup:

CallumJoshuaSturt

09-06-2008, 03:37 PM

Everyone thinks luke is but he's not

Luke to win

Legend

09-06-2008, 03:54 PM

Some of these comments are ridiculous. Can anybody explain to me the correlation between fancing women and choice of clothes?

Tom

09-06-2008, 03:56 PM

Dale might be bi, his MySpace says it likes to use poppers ...

Legend

09-06-2008, 03:59 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Dale might be bi, his MySpace says it likes to use poppers ...

Because liking a head rush means the chance of fancying men increases?

BIG-BRO-FAN

09-06-2008, 04:38 PM

How does using Poppers make you bi/gay?

Matt10k

09-06-2008, 04:47 PM

Gay people are known to use them for something else but I'm too prudish to say it :laugh2:

I still think saying he is gay for that reason is ridiculous though.

HeadlineMaterial

09-06-2008, 04:50 PM

Nothing to do with sexualty, but I think Mario and Lisa might be a pair of swingers haha!

jimbo91

09-06-2008, 05:23 PM

isnt Rebecca gay?

jimbo91

09-06-2008, 05:24 PM

they were kidding last night that they were swingers

Sammeth

09-06-2008, 05:31 PM

The thread title may as well be "List a few gay stereotypes". The stuff thats coming up in this thread is rediculous! :tongue:

Bright-Eyes

09-06-2008, 05:44 PM

Originally posted by Sammeth
The thread title may as well be "List a few gay stereotypes". The stuff thats coming up in this thread is rediculous! :tongue:
I know right. It’s ridiculous.

fairymoon

09-06-2008, 06:13 PM

does it matter whos gay or not its upto them

Matt10k

09-06-2008, 06:24 PM

Aren't the supposed 'gay stereotypes' everyone keeps listing sort of ofset (a lot) by the fact he is clearly attracted to women and even said he likes Jen!? I would think that'd be a bigger clue to go on, wouldn't you!

Tom

09-06-2008, 06:52 PM

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Dale might be bi, his MySpace says it likes to use poppers ...

Because liking a head rush means the chance of fancying men increases?

You do know what poppers are used for? And its not a head rush ...

Captain.Remy

09-06-2008, 06:54 PM

Message original : Tom
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Dale might be bi, his MySpace says it likes to use poppers ...

Because liking a head rush means the chance of fancying men increases?

You do know what poppers are used for? And its not a head rush ...

It could be. I know that because I did take some in nightclubs just for a fun ride and a lot of straight people like me do too.

Matt10k

09-06-2008, 06:54 PM

Tom

09-06-2008, 06:56 PM

Well personally I've never heard or seen of a straight person using them ...

Captain.Remy

09-06-2008, 06:57 PM

Message original : Tom
Well personally I've never heard or seen of a straight person using them ...

I guess you should go out a lot more in nightclubs, that's really common, trust me.

fairymoon

09-06-2008, 06:58 PM

well i have my freind dad works in a sex shop they sell it and not just to gays

Killian

09-06-2008, 06:58 PM

Dale has supposedly been seen in and around several gay nightclubs. It's not trustworthy, but I've heard of it.

Tom

09-06-2008, 06:59 PM

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Tom
Well personally I've never heard or seen of a straight person using them ...

I guess you should go out a lot more in nightclubs, that's really common, trust me.

Maybe in France it is, and I go to plenty of clubs thanks.

Captain.Remy

09-06-2008, 07:00 PM

Message original : Tom
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Tom
Well personally I've never heard or seen of a straight person using them ...

I guess you should go out a lot more in nightclubs, that's really common, trust me.

Maybe in France it is, and I go to plenty of clubs thanks.

I didn't mean it in a bad way but I have also been in English nightclubs and I have also used poppers and a lot of straight people other than me did too. I guess it does depend the nightclub you go in.

Tom

09-06-2008, 07:01 PM

Hmm ... probably.

But a reason could be that people in the clubs I go in tend to use stuff thats a lot stronger

Matt10k

09-06-2008, 07:03 PM

I agree with Captain.Remy. I've known loads of straight people use them and they are relatively common in british nightclubs too.

Captain.Remy

09-06-2008, 07:04 PM

Message original : Tom
Hmm ... probably.

But a reason could be that people in the clubs I go in tend to use stuff thats a lot stronger

Of course that's not the only one they use. But we use poppers sometimes because it's not expensive and not that dangerous.

And for Dale, since it was in nightclub, I don't think it was meant to be *******ed 5 minutes later, or maybe in the middle of the dancefloor lol

Tom

09-06-2008, 07:05 PM

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Tom
Hmm ... probably.

But a reason could be that people in the clubs I go in tend to use stuff thats a lot stronger

Of course that's not the only one they use. But we use poppers sometimes because it's not expensive and not that dangerous.

And for Dale, since it was in nightclub, I don't think it was meant to be *******ed 5 minutes later, or maybe in the middle of the dancefloor lol

By stronger I'm not just on about just one thing :thumbs:

letmein

09-06-2008, 07:08 PM

Big Brother is gay. He keeps winking at me!

Legend

09-06-2008, 07:12 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Dale might be bi, his MySpace says it likes to use poppers ...

Because liking a head rush means the chance of fancying men increases?

You do know what poppers are used for? And its not a head rush ...

I know exactly what they're for ... and they are used for a head rush, as I use them myself when out.

I know gay men use them to to 'relax the bum' so to speak :laugh: but straight people use them too, as well as girls, when out for a head rush. And as on the pic Dale is fully clothed in a club, it's obvious he's not using it for the reason you're implying.

Captain.Remy

09-06-2008, 07:14 PM

Message original : Legend

I know exactly what they're for ... and they are used for a head rush, as I use them myself when out.

I know gay men use them to to 'relax the bum' so to speak :laugh: but straight people use them too, as well as girls, when out for a head rush. And as on the pic Dale is fully clothed in a club, it's obvious he's not using it for the reason you're implying.

Yeah exactly, it seems obvious he's not going to be *******ed at the moment he was using it.
Good to see there is another person who used it other than me there lol :hugesmile: But shhh. :tongue:

Legend

09-06-2008, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Killian
Dale has supposedly been seen in and around several gay nightclubs. It's not trustworthy, but I've heard of it.

Yeah he does, but that proves nothing. On the pictures it says 'in gbar' etc, but I go there, I'm straight, some people just like going to gay clubs.

And Tom, I've seen plenty of people use them in straight clubs too, it's not that uncommon.

Matt10k

09-06-2008, 07:15 PM

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Dale might be bi, his MySpace says it likes to use poppers ...

Because liking a head rush means the chance of fancying men increases?

You do know what poppers are used for? And its not a head rush ...

I know exactly what they're for ... and they are used for a head rush, as I use them myself when out.

I know gay men use them to to 'relax the bum' so to speak :laugh: but straight people use them too, as well as girls, when out for a head rush. And as on the pic Dale is fully clothed in a club, it's obvious he's not using it for the reason you're implying.

Exactly! What people are implying with the poppers thing is ridiculous. lol

Legend

09-06-2008, 07:18 PM

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Legend

I know exactly what they're for ... and they are used for a head rush, as I use them myself when out.

I know gay men use them to to 'relax the bum' so to speak :laugh: but straight people use them too, as well as girls, when out for a head rush. And as on the pic Dale is fully clothed in a club, it's obvious he's not using it for the reason you're implying.

Yeah exactly, it seems obvious he's not going to be *******ed at the moment he was using it.
Good to see there is another person who used it other than me there lol :hugesmile: But shhh. :tongue:

Let's keep Tom's fantasies alive and pretend he was about to run into the toilet after using them.

LOL but it's no big deal, yet because what they're related to, it's turned into one, when they're legal, cheap and give you a quick, good rush.

And Tom, you know I was joking ^^. :whistle:

Legend

09-06-2008, 07:23 PM

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Dale might be bi, his MySpace says it likes to use poppers ...

Because liking a head rush means the chance of fancying men increases?

You do know what poppers are used for? And its not a head rush ...

I know exactly what they're for ... and they are used for a head rush, as I use them myself when out.

I know gay men use them to to 'relax the bum' so to speak :laugh: but straight people use them too, as well as girls, when out for a head rush. And as on the pic Dale is fully clothed in a club, it's obvious he's not using it for the reason you're implying.

Exactly! What people are implying with the poppers thing is ridiculous. lol

I know, I dread to think what people would think of me if I ever got into BB then. Then again, I suppose people might be more informed about things though before spouting in the future.

Tom

09-06-2008, 07:28 PM

But whether or not straight people do use them, there is still a massive stigma attached to people using poppers.

Sod_James

09-06-2008, 07:29 PM

im gay and never used them, didnt even know what they were till i read this

Legend

09-06-2008, 07:30 PM

Originally posted by Tom
But whether or not straight people do use them, there is still a massive stigma attached to people using poppers.

A stigma yes. Though I think assumptions are made due to ignorance really, or just general lack of knowledge about them.

Tom

09-06-2008, 07:32 PM

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
But whether or not straight people do use them, there is still a massive stigma attached to people using poppers.

A stigma yes. Though I think assumptions are made due to ignorance really, or just general lack of knowledge about them.

Stigma's don't attach themselves ... :thumbs:

Legend

09-06-2008, 07:38 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
But whether or not straight people do use them, there is still a massive stigma attached to people using poppers.

A stigma yes. Though I think assumptions are made due to ignorance really, or just general lack of knowledge about them.

Stigma's don't attach themselves ... :thumbs:

Well more fool you for not looking past the stigma.

Matt10k

09-06-2008, 07:40 PM

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
But whether or not straight people do use them, there is still a massive stigma attached to people using poppers.

A stigma yes. Though I think assumptions are made due to ignorance really, or just general lack of knowledge about them.

Stigma's don't attach themselves ... :thumbs:

Well more fool you for not looking past the stigma.

:bigsmile: yep!

brohoe

09-06-2008, 08:18 PM

Originally posted by Legend
Some of these comments are ridiculous. Can anybody explain to me the correlation between fancing women and choice of clothes?

well yeah it's a trend, most clothers designers are gay

Tom

09-06-2008, 08:23 PM

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
But whether or not straight people do use them, there is still a massive stigma attached to people using poppers.

A stigma yes. Though I think assumptions are made due to ignorance really, or just general lack of knowledge about them.

Stigma's don't attach themselves ... :thumbs:

Well more fool you for not looking past the stigma.

:bigsmile: yep!

Or maybe more fool the pair of you for thinking "oh we do it therefore it means a lot of people do it both gay and straight" when in reality gay people use them more depending on your perspective :thumbs:

There is also a massive trend between clothes people wear and sexuality ... if you can't pick gay people out by what they are wearing then you need to readjust your gaydar. Thats not to say that all straight people wear this and all gay people wear that, but normally you can tell by what people wear.

brohoe

09-06-2008, 08:26 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
But whether or not straight people do use them, there is still a massive stigma attached to people using poppers.

A stigma yes. Though I think assumptions are made due to ignorance really, or just general lack of knowledge about them.

Stigma's don't attach themselves ... :thumbs:

Well more fool you for not looking past the stigma.

:bigsmile: yep!

Or maybe more fool the pair of you for thinking "oh we do it therefore it means a lot of people do it both gay and straight" when in reality gay people use them more depending on your perspective :thumbs:

There is also a massive trend between clothes people wear and sexuality ... if you can't pick gay people out by what they are wearing then you need to readjust your gaydar. Thats not to say that all straight people wear this and all gay people wear that, but normally you can tell by what people wear.

exactly... it's a complement... generally, and i do use the the ord genrally very flippenty... gay people wear the laest/most stylish clothes

Shaun

09-06-2008, 08:30 PM

The only people I know who use poppers are gay or female.

Just thought I'd put that in there. :)

Matt10k

09-06-2008, 08:33 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
But whether or not straight people do use them, there is still a massive stigma attached to people using poppers.

A stigma yes. Though I think assumptions are made due to ignorance really, or just general lack of knowledge about them.

Stigma's don't attach themselves ... :thumbs:

Well more fool you for not looking past the stigma.

:bigsmile: yep!

Or maybe more fool the pair of you for thinking "oh we do it therefore it means a lot of people do it both gay and straight" when in reality gay people use them more depending on your perspective :thumbs:

There is also a massive trend between clothes people wear and sexuality ... if you can't pick gay people out by what they are wearing then you need to readjust your gaydar. Thats not to say that all straight people wear this and all gay people wear that, but normally you can tell by what people wear.

Ah come on, you’re the one stereotyping people based on what they do, not us! I never even said I did do it anyway so I don’t know where you’ve got that from?!

Using it as evidence for someones sexuality is ridiculous! Everyone is different, the only thing that would make Dale gay would be being attracted to men, it has nothing to do with all the other stereotypical crap.

Picking up on the fact that he is seen sniffing poppers outside a club and linking it to his sexuality is kind of silly! We were just pointing out that many straight people take them.

stonedape

09-06-2008, 08:35 PM

There are always reasons for stereotypes, and there are always reason to look past them. Let's leave it at that, eh?

Tom

09-06-2008, 08:39 PM

Originally posted by Matt10k

Ah come on, you’re the one stereotyping people based on what they do, not us! I never even said I did do it anyway so I don’t know where you’ve got that from?!

Using it as evidence for someones sexuality is ridiculous! Everyone is different, the only thing that would make Dale gay would be being attracted to men, it has nothing to do with all the other stereotypical c**p.

Picking up on the fact that he is seen sniffing poppers outside a club and linking it to his sexuality is kind of silly! We were just pointing out that many straight people take them.

I didnt actually say Dale was gay in the first place though, I said might, and I said bi :thumbs:

You do realise stereotypes have been built mentally for a reason? Its because generally, thats what happens. Its similar to saying only people on benefits and tramps live on council estates. Now by making a generalisation, that is true but of course its not true in the sense that there are exceptions, but not many exceptions. Its the same principle which applies.

So yeah, some straight people also do poppers- but mainly straight females. Of course some straight males will do but probably nowhere near enough to override the stereotype.

Matt10k

09-06-2008, 08:46 PM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Matt10k

Ah come on, you’re the one stereotyping people based on what they do, not us! I never even said I did do it anyway so I don’t know where you’ve got that from?!

Using it as evidence for someones sexuality is ridiculous! Everyone is different, the only thing that would make Dale gay would be being attracted to men, it has nothing to do with all the other stereotypical c**p.

Picking up on the fact that he is seen sniffing poppers outside a club and linking it to his sexuality is kind of silly! We were just pointing out that many straight people take them.

I didnt actually say Dale was gay in the first place though, I said might, and I said bi :thumbs:

You do realise stereotypes have been built mentally for a reason? Its because generally, thats what happens. Its similar to saying only people on benefits and tramps live on council estates. Now by making a generalisation, that is true but of course its not true in the sense that there are exceptions, but not many exceptions. Its the same principle which applies.

So yeah, some straight people also do poppers- but mainly straight females. Of course some straight males will do but probably nowhere near enough to override the stereotype.

I understand stereotypes and I think a lot of them are incorrect- I don't believe in generalising people.

You can choose to follow them if you want, I just think it makes you look a little closed minded because you are assuming something about someone that could be incorrect and at times hurtful.

Much better to not assume anything and judge everyone on an individual basis, after you've got to know them- not based around silly things like what they watch on tv, whether they do poppers or not, clothes they wear etc...

thisisme2008

09-06-2008, 08:47 PM

Originally posted by Sod_James
Im gay and never used them, didnt even know what they were till i read this

I'm gay too and i know what they are and I've never used them, but i have loads of gay friends who have, and loads of straight friends who have. Yeah they are useful for sex, but straights take them because they give you a 5 minute high. That's all.

Legend

09-06-2008, 08:53 PM

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Matt10k

Ah come on, you’re the one stereotyping people based on what they do, not us! I never even said I did do it anyway so I don’t know where you’ve got that from?!

Using it as evidence for someones sexuality is ridiculous! Everyone is different, the only thing that would make Dale gay would be being attracted to men, it has nothing to do with all the other stereotypical c**p.

Picking up on the fact that he is seen sniffing poppers outside a club and linking it to his sexuality is kind of silly! We were just pointing out that many straight people take them.

I didnt actually say Dale was gay in the first place though, I said might, and I said bi :thumbs:

You do realise stereotypes have been built mentally for a reason? Its because generally, thats what happens. Its similar to saying only people on benefits and tramps live on council estates. Now by making a generalisation, that is true but of course its not true in the sense that there are exceptions, but not many exceptions. Its the same principle which applies.

So yeah, some straight people also do poppers- but mainly straight females. Of course some straight males will do but probably nowhere near enough to override the stereotype.

I understand stereotypes and I think a lot of them are incorrect- I don't believe in generalising people.

You can choose to follow them if you want, I just think it makes you look a little closed minded because you are assuming something about someone that could be incorrect and at times hurtful.

Much better to not assume anything and judge everyone on an individual basis, after you've got to know them- not based around silly things like what they watch on tv, whether they do poppers or not, clothes they wear etc...

You said it all there. But in fairness, it's going to fall on deaf ears. I can tell this is one of Tom's "I'm right" debates where he has an answer to everything, logical or not.

Tom, you stated that he may be bi for using poppers because of a stereotype and a generalistion, so that's why I said more fool you for not looking past them. I'm not trying to say that because some straight people use them then that overides the stereotype [that's not even the point, I'm not trying to say it should as I don't pay attention to stereotypes because in a lot of cases, it's just stereotypical bullshit which you're proving], that weren't my point, my point was that it's a pathetic thing to base somebody's sexuality on ... the fact they use poppers when it's obvious he was fully clothed in a nightclub and not about to bend over on a bed ...

Plus, you said earlier they weren't used for a head rush, and you didn't know straight people to use them ... now you do know that straight people use them but it's mainly females ... but I thought they only had one purpose? :conf:

Tom

09-06-2008, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by Legend

You said it all there. But in fairness, it's going to fall on deaf ears. I can tell this is one of Tom's "I'm right" debates where he has an answer to everything, logical or not.

Tom, you stated that he may be bi for using poppers because of a stereotype and a generalistion, so that's why I said more fool you for not looking past them. I'm not trying to say that because some straight people use them then that overides the stereotype [that's not even the point, I'm not trying to say it should as I don't pay attention to stereotypes because in a lot of cases, it's just stereotypical bullshit which you're proving], that weren't my point, my point was that it's a pathetic thing to base somebody's sexuality on ... the fact they use poppers when it's obvious he was fully clothed in a nightclub and not about to bend over on a bed ...

Plus, you said earlier they weren't used for a head rush, and you didn't know straight people to use them ... now you do know that straight people use them but it's mainly females ... but I thought they only had one purpose? :conf:

I meant I've never seen a straight male use poppers and I've asked a few random people from allover the country, some who I don't know personally, and they've said practically the same as that.

And the point you are missing is that I said he might be bi, not that he is. Massive difference. Its an association so obviously I'm inclined to believe that but I didn't come to the conclusion that he was because he uses them.

And I still hold my belief on stereotypes. Mental images of stereotypes have been built up for a reason, not because someone woke up one day and thought it would be a good association.

Jack

09-06-2008, 10:43 PM

Dale's myspace states him as straight, and he said himself he likes women; that's pretty conclusive evidence. :whistle:

Yes he uses/used poppers, and yes they are more associated with the gay community. I can see where Tom is coming from, and if it wasn't clearly stated from Dale himself that he is straight then his sexuality would be more questionable in my opinion because of that fact. However being a DJ, he is surrounded by recreational drugs and the like so it's obvious it's there's nothing more to it.

Matt10k

09-06-2008, 11:09 PM

Originally posted by Tom
So yeah, some straight people also do poppers- but mainly straight females. Of course some straight males will do but probably nowhere near enough to override the stereotype.

Do you have evidence to back any of this up or are you just relying on stereotypes again?

Rob

09-06-2008, 11:10 PM

i think its just dennis but i think darnell might be, possibly mikey

letmein

10-06-2008, 04:07 AM

Originally posted by brohoe
Originally posted by Legend
Some of these comments are ridiculous. Can anybody explain to me the correlation between fancing women and choice of clothes?

well yeah it's a trend, most clothers designers are gay

Even the women?

Tom

10-06-2008, 10:11 AM

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Tom
So yeah, some straight people also do poppers- but mainly straight females. Of course some straight males will do but probably nowhere near enough to override the stereotype.

Do you have evidence to back any of this up or are you just relying on stereotypes again?

Like I say, I've asked about to see whether it is just me thinking I've never seen a straight man use poppers and a hell of a lot more other people have also said no, and have said its for gays and women. These people are largely ones I don't know personally or ones I do know but live in different places around the country.

thisisme2008

10-06-2008, 10:23 AM

God i wish Dale was...

LargeAndInCharge

10-06-2008, 10:25 AM

only dennis is gay people

end of discussion

Bright-Eyes

10-06-2008, 10:26 AM

Originally posted by Brother
only dennis is gay people

end of discussion
yes. I think 4 pages on this is enough.

Matt10k

10-06-2008, 11:05 AM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Tom
So yeah, some straight people also do poppers- but mainly straight females. Of course some straight males will do but probably nowhere near enough to override the stereotype.

Do you have evidence to back any of this up or are you just relying on stereotypes again?

Like I say, I've asked about to see whether it is just me thinking I've never seen a straight man use poppers and a hell of a lot more other people have also said no, and have said its for gays and women. These people are largely ones I don't know personally or ones I do know but live in different places around the country.

I didn't think so. So you are basically just going on your own experience- that isn't evidence.

Once again I think you rely far too heavily on stereotypes to give the answer for you without looking at the bigger picture.

You seem to presume most stereotypes are more right than wrong but don't bother to look for the evidence to see if that is true or not. How would you know if this stereotype is correct for example without actually having any evidence on amyl nitrate use between men/ women and gay/ straight?

I’m also not convinced by your “I’ve asked loads of people all around the country that I don’t personally know and they say they are for gays and women“.

For a start, I’d have to take your word for it and without any evidence, I am sceptical and also, you say these are people you don’t know from all around the country- have you done a survey or what?! How many people were involved? 100, 1000, 10,000?! lol. Or is this just something you typed into a couple of sites and got a few replies to?

And also, you’d have to ask the right people, not just a load of strangers that don’t really know what it is. I seem to find a lot of the people that think it’s “only for gays” are the ones that don’t really know what it is.

When I said ‘evidence’ I meant perhaps a link to a survey or something looking at use of the drug, not just hearsay.

Tom

10-06-2008, 11:28 AM

Do you have evidence? You have said you haven't experienced it and implied you only have word of mouth from people on here. Unless of course you are going to change your story now ...

Like I say, stereotypes are there for a reason. Of course there will be exceptions (which there are) but not necessarily many of them in the bigger picture.

Matt10k

10-06-2008, 11:32 AM

Originally posted by Tom
Do you have evidence? You have said you haven't experienced it and only have word of mouth from people on here. Unless of course you are going to change your story now ...

I didn't make any statements such as "mainly women use them" or "they are mainly for gays", that is why I asked if you had any actual evidence to back this up, which you didn't so I am not convinced that is the case.

Matt10k

10-06-2008, 11:33 AM

Originally posted by Tom
Like I say, stereotypes are there for a reason. Of course there will be exceptions (which there are) but not necessarily many of them in the bigger picture.

How do you know that stereotype is true if you have no evidence to back it up?

Tom

10-06-2008, 11:33 AM

It would be nice to be linked to a poll or survey suggesting otherwise ... :thumbs: Otherwise I'm not convinced its that common in the bigger picture.

In the mean time I'll stick to my stereotypical views and views gained from experience and the experiences of (more) other people.

Tom

10-06-2008, 11:34 AM

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Tom
Like I say, stereotypes are there for a reason. Of course there will be exceptions (which there are) but not necessarily many of them in the bigger picture.

How do you know that stereotype is true if you have no evidence to back it up?

Experience and word of mouth.

Matt10k

10-06-2008, 11:37 AM

Tom

10-06-2008, 11:39 AM

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Tom
It would be nice to be linked to a poll or survey suggesting otherwise ... :thumbs: Otherwise I'm not convinced its that common in the bigger picture.

In the mean time I'll stick to my stereotypical views and views gained from experience and the experiences of (more) other people.

Ok, well you have no real evidence. Stick to your unproven stereotypical views, that could easily be wrong and I will be more open minded until I see actual evidence.

If experience isn't evidence then I don't know what is.

Matt10k

10-06-2008, 11:42 AM

Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Tom
It would be nice to be linked to a poll or survey suggesting otherwise ... :thumbs: Otherwise I'm not convinced its that common in the bigger picture.

In the mean time I'll stick to my stereotypical views and views gained from experience and the experiences of (more) other people.

Ok, well you have no real evidence. Stick to your unproven stereotypical views, that could easily be wrong and I will be more open minded until I see actual evidence.

If experience isn't evidence then I don't know what is.

Who's experience?! How extensive is your experience? Should I just trust any idiots opinion on the street just because he says he has 'experience'? It's a pretty poor argument.

Matt10k

10-06-2008, 11:45 AM

Tell you what, I’ll go and ask one of my friends that has ‘experience’ and that will prove everything about ALL poppers users because of his experience?! If that isn’t evidence, you don’t know what is?! :rolleyes:

Tom

10-06-2008, 11:46 AM

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by Tom
It would be nice to be linked to a poll or survey suggesting otherwise ... :thumbs: Otherwise I'm not convinced its that common in the bigger picture.

In the mean time I'll stick to my stereotypical views and views gained from experience and the experiences of (more) other people.

Ok, well you have no real evidence. Stick to your unproven stereotypical views, that could easily be wrong and I will be more open minded until I see actual evidence.

If experience isn't evidence then I don't know what is.

Who's experience?! How extensive is your experience? Should I just trust any idiots opinion on the street just because he says he has 'experience'? It's a pretty poor argument.

Well you're fine taking experience evidence from people who happen to be for your argument :thumbs::rolleyes:

Matt10k

10-06-2008, 11:50 AM

Originally posted by Tom
Well you're fine taking experience evidence from people who happen to be for your argument :thumbs::rolleyes:

So you should ask people who know nothing about poppers instead for a more accurate answer of who uses them?!

To be honest, that wasn't what I was saying anyway, I was saying why should I trust your opinion over anyone elses? What experience do you have? You seem to misinterpret a lot...

Legend

10-06-2008, 11:58 AM

Originally posted by Tom
It would be nice to be linked to a poll or survey suggesting otherwise ... :thumbs: Otherwise I'm not convinced its that common in the bigger picture.

In the mean time I'll stick to my stereotypical views and views gained from experience and the experiences of (more) other people.

Well you stick to them, and see how pathetic it will sound when using stereotypes to try to justify your views, not just on poppers and who uses them, but on most things. Also, it's pretty hypocriticial what you're saying because I remember you getting heated when people generalised chavs and put trackies and traines into the chav stereotype, yet you're willing to stick to your stereotypical views but when somebody has a different stereotypical view you don't agree with, it's completely different?

And your views aren't gained from experience, it's from complete lack of experience and knowledge of them.

Tom

10-06-2008, 04:11 PM

Originally posted by Legend
Originally posted by Tom
It would be nice to be linked to a poll or survey suggesting otherwise ... :thumbs: Otherwise I'm not convinced its that common in the bigger picture.

In the mean time I'll stick to my stereotypical views and views gained from experience and the experiences of (more) other people.

Well you stick to them, and see how pathetic it will sound when using stereotypes to try to justify your views, not just on poppers and who uses them, but on most things. Also, it's pretty hypocriticial what you're saying because I remember you getting heated when people generalised chavs and put trackies and traines into the chav stereotype, yet you're willing to stick to your stereotypical views but when somebody has a different stereotypical view you don't agree with, it's completely different?

And your views aren't gained from experience, it's from complete lack of experience and knowledge of them.

LOL

Some people on here are so easy to wind up which was my aim, and it worked

But yeah you've caught me out

This is going to sound so contradictory and as though I've backed down but I hate generalisation

Just remember I was trying to wind you both up eh, and it worked :spin2:

By the way its jogging bottoms not trackies :thumbs: