My concerns over this Islam business

[dennissabre]

I thought the whole incident re:Mo dressing up was ridiculous and is not worth dwelling on. He was enjoying himself and said it was one of the best times of his life.
What i would like to know is could this actually cause problems for him on the outside? :sad:

I hope that it doesn't

[andyman]

only wacko's will jump to it.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by andyman
only wacko's will jump to it. Spot on Andy.
Congrats on your 500th tonight :cheer:

[andyman]

ta very much. :dance:

[tinkerbell]

Why do you always make a poll with nothing on it...?

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
Why do you always make a poll with nothing on it...?

answer...........thick

Now where do I get my prize :joker:

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by tinkerbell
Why do you always make a poll with nothing on it...?
What do you mean?

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by AngnAndy
Originally posted by tinkerbell
Why do you always make a poll with nothing on it...?

answer...........thick

Now where do I get my prize :joker:

You would know!

[Captain.Remy]

That's a religion issue. The man is supposed to be the strong man and must not appear 'weaker' by wearing woman's clothes. For Alex it was uncomfortable.

[Sticks]

It is not just in Islam this ordinance applies

Deuteronomy 22:5 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=22&verse=5&version=31&context=verse)


A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.

[TiggyRumpton]

I, too, thought Alex was possibly jeopodising Mo's safety when he got out by drawing too much attention this. There are plenty of 'wackos' out there who will feel he should be made an example of, especially as they know it'll get plenty of press coverage. She probably knew that as she was saying it - evil bitch.

[Barbie]

This business over islam... i don't think one night dressing up matters too much especially seems as both mohammed and Alex drink and smoke
Alex has a cheek to enforce rules about islam to mohammed seems as she smokes drinks and is very rude also i have not seen her pray and it doesn't seem like she does and so therefore shouldn't go by the faith when it suits her

i have been christened but that doesn't mean i instate rules about the faith when i feel like it or use it against someone as if i am religious because I'm not at all

[CallumJoshuaSturt]

Losers

[Dan_]

Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by tinkerbell
Why do you always make a poll with nothing on it...?
What do you mean?

You make a poll without actually ever putting any options to vote on.Just click on new topic instead of new poll.

[Dreary]

Originally posted by Dan_
Originally posted by dennissabre
Originally posted by tinkerbell
Why do you always make a poll with nothing on it...?
What do you mean?

You make a poll without actually ever putting any options to vote on.Just click on new topic instead of new poll.

pedant:elephant:

[Nutters22000]

Isn't Osama Bin laden a muslin?

[letmein]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
That's a religion issue. The man is supposed to be the strong man and must not appear 'weaker' by wearing woman's clothes. For Alex it was uncomfortable.

That's her problem. It's a sexist religion. Alex, of all people, should keep her putrid mouth shut!

[letmein]

Originally posted by Sticks
It is not just in Islam this ordinance applies

Deuteronomy 22:5 (http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?book_id=5&chapter=22&verse=5&version=31&context=verse)


A woman must not wear men's clothing, nor a man wear women's clothing, for the LORD your God detests anyone who does this.


Yes, it also says that women who are having their period, must be put outside the house. Waiting for this to happen.

Alex, weak? :joker:

She just became Muslim last week according to papers. Her boyfriend's in prison for murder. He decided that they should convert to Islam. She's full of ****.

[letmein]

Someone wrote something hilarious:

"If I was Mohammed I would have suggested she takes her religious conversion one step further and goes and lives in Iran (where she would probably be killed within a few days)"

[Sunny_01]

I could understand if she was passionate about her religion and lived her life by the Islamic rules. However she exposes herself in short skirts and low cut tops, she drinks, she smokes, she be-littles men and she behaves in an agressive manner. She likes to select when to impose her views on people about her religion and is selective in which parts of it she sticks to.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by Dan_
Originally posted by dennissabre
[quote]Originally posted by tinkerbell
Why do you always make a poll with nothing on it...?
What do you mean?

You make a poll without actually ever putting any options to vote on.Just click on new topic instead of new poll. [/quote

Oop's! I thought i was pressing Topic but thanks for pointing it out. :blush2:

[Cody™]

I bet the whole episode last night even made Muslim people cringe. Alex herself does so many things which are against the Muslim religion, so how dare she criticise Mo for cross dressing? Its purely hypocritical. And he was JUST having a laugh. I dont think God will punish him for having some fun on his birthday. She was only using religion as an excuse.

[thisisme2008]

Why did she have to keep making such a fuss about it?!

[Kore]

Yeah if Mo gets attacked by the wackos, then its alexs fault for bringing it up and stirring up the situatons.

cheers alex

[bringbackscience]

Must muslims wont give a toss

[LovelyL]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I could understand if she was passionate about her religion and lived her life by the Islamic rules. However she exposes herself in short skirts and low cut tops, she drinks, she smokes, she be-littles men and she behaves in an agressive manner. She likes to select when to impose her views on people about her religion and is selective in which parts of it she sticks to.









I agree. Islam is a very strict religion and I think she did actually have a point, the fact is what he did was wrong in Islamic law without a doubt. However he is a fully grown man who is capable of making his own decisions, he knows the rules of his religion and whether or not he chooses to obey them is his choice. Alex is certainly in no place to to be telling anyone about "disgracing" people. She does not practice as a muslim properly at all and overally is probably the one who bring the most shame on ANY religion especially her own.

[Wellsita]

Who heard God say that men should not wear women's clothes and vice-versa?!
I think this religion matters are sickening!
God does not want people to kill people either, but how many have been killed in the name of religion?

Alex is a hypocrit! She does not behave like a muslim and I just wish Mo could really put her in her place, although I was proud of him for standing up to her!
Isn't there something in the Islam where women are not supposed to show their hair in public? Where is Alex's head scarf? On the contarry, she is absolutely obessed about her hair!

[armani]

to be quite honest who is alex to critisize when she swears like a trooper, drinks and smokes, had a child at 15, dresses like a slapper,and now apparantly mixes with gangs and such kind of ppl, only one word for her, HIPPOCRIT! memba i told ya

[andyman]

Lets hope she dont do bblb and bbbm... Then there is the papers etc.

[GiRTh]

Originally posted by Sunny_01
I could understand if she was passionate about her religion and lived her life by the Islamic rules. However she exposes herself in short skirts and low cut tops, she drinks, she smokes, she be-littles men and she behaves in an agressive manner. She likes to select when to impose her views on people about her religion and is selective in which parts of it she sticks to. Excellent point.:thumbs:

Alex seems to have an issue du jour to rile housemates. What Mo did was totally against the rule of Islam but she has absolutely no right to make such an issue out of it. She dresses in short skirts, wears make up and totally flouts the rules herself.

I think her persistance and her unwillingness to let go was more due to the diary room incident. She knew Mo was not saying nice things about her and, in Alex's world, thats a good enough reason to go to war. She is such a caricature.

[debs/notts]

i think alex has done more to let down her religon then any other house mate ever !!!! she has double standards, she should take a long good look at herself before judging others!!!

[Nurse57]

"Most muslims wont give a toss"

I think you will find that is the Catholics. :spin2:

[antd]

religion is for idiots, no joke

It's funny when people talk about 'double standards'. Of course there are 'double standards' otherwise the world would be without human beings.

[farhad]

Originally posted by dennissabre
I thought the whole incident re:Mo dressing up was ridiculous and is not worth dwelling on. He was enjoying himself and said it was one of the best times of his life.
What i would like to know is could this actually cause problems for him on the outside? :sad:

I hope that it doesn't

I agree Mo was having and joking about, its Alex trying to isolate him from the group using religion as an excuse, and i'm a muslim convert myself.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Wellsita
Who heard God say that men should not wear women's clothes and vice-versa?!
I think this religion matters are sickening!
God does not want people to kill people either, but how many have been killed in the name of religion?

Alex is a hypocrit! She does not behave like a muslim and I just wish Mo could really put her in her place, although I was proud of him for standing up to her!
Isn't there something in the Islam where women are not supposed to show their hair in public? Where is Alex's head scarf? On the contarry, she is absolutely obessed about her hair!

This is a misconception, some of those muslims make everything haram without even checking what the Koran says. as a joke its ok but only time it is against Islam if you do it it to hurt people.

[farhad]

Originally posted by antd
religion is for idiots, no joke

It's funny when people talk about 'double standards'. Of course there are 'double standards' otherwise the world would be without human beings.

Islam is the true religion, no wonder why millions choose to convert to it.

[Matt10k]

If Mo is targeted for that, people are more pathetic than I thought.

[Emilee]

i didin't think it was that much of a big deal! I mean like he said, he smokes and drinks, so cross dressing wont make much of a difference.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by farhad
Islam is the true religion

That could be pretty offensive to people of other religions on the forum.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : farhad
Originally posted by dennissabre
I thought the whole incident re:Mo dressing up was ridiculous and is not worth dwelling on. He was enjoying himself and said it was one of the best times of his life.
What i would like to know is could this actually cause problems for him on the outside? :sad:

I hope that it doesn't

I agree Mo was having and joking about, its Alex trying to isolate him from the group using religion as an excuse, and i'm a muslim convert myself.

Excuse me to say so but you'll see it's not right for a Muslim to do so and I know what I am talking about, my girlfriend is a Muslim (However I'm not) and we talked about those type of things a billion times.
I am not saying he shouldn't because my girlfriend also drinks and doesn't wear the Islamic outfit but from the religion's point of view, the man is supposed to be the strongest one.
Of course he is enjoying himself but I can understand why Alex was shocked by his attitude: a man must not wear woman's clothes.

[Bells]

Originally posted by Wellsita
Alex is a hypocrite! She does not behave like a muslim and I just wish Mo could really put her in her place, although I was proud of him for standing up to her!
Isn't there something in the Islam where women are not supposed to show their hair in public? Where is Alex's head scarf? On the contarry, she is absolutely obessed about her hair!

I agree that she is hardly the epitome of any religion, and certainly doesn't abide by any Islamic rules I've heard of.

And the hair issue is a bit misunderstood - in Islam, women are required to dress modestly, but don't necessarily have to cover their hair with headscarves. I think this has come about as more of a cultural issue, or really strict Islamic states where women are oppressed.

[farhad]

Originally posted by LovelyL
Originally posted by Sunny_01
I could understand if she was passionate about her religion and lived her life by the Islamic rules. However she exposes herself in short skirts and low cut tops, she drinks, she smokes, she be-littles men and she behaves in an agressive manner. She likes to select when to impose her views on people about her religion and is selective in which parts of it she sticks to.









I agree. Islam is a very strict religion and I think she did actually have a point, the fact is what he did was wrong in Islamic law without a doubt. However he is a fully grown man who is capable of making his own decisions, he knows the rules of his religion and whether or not he chooses to obey them is his choice. Alex is certainly in no place to to be telling anyone about "disgracing" people. She does not practice as a muslim properly at all and overally is probably the one who bring the most shame on ANY religion especially her own.

Every religion is strict however in Quran Allah gave free choices to everyone, so if a person doesn't follow the guidlines it will be judged in life after death, nowhere does Allah gives the power to a man or anyone to judge and make them forcfully follow Allah's command, its choice and will be dealt with in the afterlife.

[dennissabre]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by farhad
Islam is the true religion

That could be pretty offensive to people of other religions on the forum.
I agree

[farhad]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : farhad
Originally posted by dennissabre
I thought the whole incident re:Mo dressing up was ridiculous and is not worth dwelling on. He was enjoying himself and said it was one of the best times of his life.
What i would like to know is could this actually cause problems for him on the outside? :sad:

I hope that it doesn't

I agree Mo was having and joking about, its Alex trying to isolate him from the group using religion as an excuse, and i'm a muslim convert myself.

Excuse me to say so but you'll see it's not right for a Muslim to do so and I know what I am talking about, my girlfriend is a Muslim (However I'm not) and we talked about those type of things a billion times.
I am not saying he shouldn't because my girlfriend also drinks and doesn't wear the Islamic outfit but from the religion's point of view, the man is supposed to be the strongest one.
Of course he is enjoying himself but I can understand why Alex was shocked by his attitude: a man must not wear woman's clothes.

Then she is wrong IMO, in the Quran a man is given responsibility, not superiority, which means a man should look after his wife and children, earn for them because bioligically a man is physically stronger so he has been given his duty to perform it, and guide them, but he cant force them if they disobey him, thats all in the Quran that force and dictatorship is prohibited, only he should guide them. Smoking isn't neccessarily prohibited but it discouraged. Drinking though is completely prohibited.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by farhad
Islam is the true religion

That could be pretty offensive to people of other religions on the forum.

Ok I apologise but to me it is the complete truth.:thumbs:

[farhad]

Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by WellsitaAlex is a hypocrit! She does not behave like a muslim and I just wish Mo could really put her in her place, although I was proud of him for standing up to her!
Isn't there something in the Islam where women are not supposed to show their hair in public? Where is Alex's head scarf? On the contarry, she is absolutely obessed about her hair!

I agree that she is hardly the epitome of any religion, and certainly doesn't abide by any Islamic rules I've heard of.

And the hair issue is a bit misunderstood - in Islam, women are required to dress modestly, but don't necessarily have to cover their hair with headscarves. I think this has come about as more of a cultural issue, or really strict Islamic states where women are oppressed.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : farhad

Then she is wrong IMO, in the Quran a man is given responsibility, not superiority, which means a man should look after his wife and children, earn for them because bioligically a man is physically stronger so he has been given his duty to perform it, and guide them, but he cant force them if they disobey him, thats all in the Quran that force and dictatorship is prohibited, only he should guide them. Smoking isn't neccessarily prohibited but it discouraged. Drinking though is completely prohibited.

You basically proved my point without being aware of. You just said the man was stronger and was responsible of his family.
And I'd rather trust my girlfriend who was born as a Muslim than you, who are trying to convert but it's not the question.
I never said smoking was prohibited, it is not encouraged unlike drinking which is just bad but a lot of young Muslims do not respect that rule no more.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by Wellsita
Alex is a hypocrite! She does not behave like a muslim and I just wish Mo could really put her in her place, although I was proud of him for standing up to her!
Isn't there something in the Islam where women are not supposed to show their hair in public? Where is Alex's head scarf? On the contarry, she is absolutely obessed about her hair!

I agree that she is hardly the epitome of any religion, and certainly doesn't abide by any Islamic rules I've heard of.

And the hair issue is a bit misunderstood - in Islam, women are required to dress modestly, but don't necessarily have to cover their hair with headscarves. I think this has come about as more of a cultural issue, or really strict Islamic states where women are oppressed.

Indeed, the head scarf is given in the holy Quran but it is also stated as a personal choice, but its the culture and some misguided country make strict.

[farhad]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : farhad

Then she is wrong IMO, in the Quran a man is given responsibility, not superiority, which means a man should look after his wife and children, earn for them because bioligically a man is physically stronger so he has been given his duty to perform it, and guide them, but he cant force them if they disobey him, thats all in the Quran that force and dictatorship is prohibited, only he should guide them. Smoking isn't neccessarily prohibited but it discouraged. Drinking though is completely prohibited.

You basically proved my point without being aware of. You just said the man was stronger and was responsible of his family.
And I'd rather trust my girlfriend was was born as a Muslim than you, who are trying to convert but it's not the question.
I never said smoking was prohibited, it is not encouraged unlike drinking which is just bad but a lot of young Muslims do not respect that rule no more.

Yes Biolgically he is stronger so he can perform his duty better, he has 100% financial obligation to his wife, a wife can work if she wishes in the community according to Islam buts its not compulsory, but a choice and all her earnings is hers and she doesn't have spend the money as God has made a husband responsible for the financial aspect.

[dennissabre]

When i started this topic i was horrified but obviously not surprised at that womans attack on Mo. Oh the hypocrisy of it all.
3 days later i can't believe i allowed myself to be drawn into the world of such a vile sleazebag of the gutter.
Now i couldn't give a sh*t about her or her many opinions. She means nothing to me.
Strangely enough Croydon was never to high up on my list places to visit anyway :blush2:

[Polka.dot]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
You basically proved my point without being aware of. You just said the man was stronger and was responsible of his family.
And I'd rather trust my girlfriend who was born as a Muslim than you, who are trying to convert but it's not the question.
I never said smoking was prohibited, it is not encouraged unlike drinking which is just bad but a lot of young Muslims do not respect that rule no more.

Just to clarify, being born into a Muslim family does not automatically make a person a Muslim.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by farhad
Islam is the true religion

That could be pretty offensive to people of other religions on the forum.

Ok I apologise but to me it is the complete truth.:thumbs:

If people were more understanding with their beliefs and could see it from someone else’s side and didn't make statements like that, there would be a lot less trouble surrounding religion.

It’s all the ‘holier than thou’ attitudes of everyone thinking they’re right and everyone else is wrong that promotes the divides and leads to the hostility that exists between different faiths.

[Bells]

Originally posted by Matt10k
If people were more understanding with their beliefs and could see it from someone else’s side and didn't make statements like that, there would be a lot less trouble surrounding religion.

It’s all the ‘holier than thou’ attitudes of everyone thinking they’re right and everyone else is wrong that promotes the divides and leads to the hostility that exists between different faiths.

I agree with your comments. It's much better to carry out one's faith and set an example that way, rather than set about 'preaching' in all the wrong ways. Making bold statements to people who may well not be interested at all is included, and if anything it puts them off.

However, he has apologised now - so it's probably best to let it drop. :thumbs:

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by AngnAndy
the only thing I saw 'it' do with any reference to islam was getting dressed one morning in the luxery bedroom.
She was trying on a pair of jeans and asked Sylvia..
Edited - Ash.

:nono:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Polka.dot
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
You basically proved my point without being aware of. You just said the man was stronger and was responsible of his family.
And I'd rather trust my girlfriend who was born as a Muslim than you, who are trying to convert but it's not the question.
I never said smoking was prohibited, it is not encouraged unlike drinking which is just bad but a lot of young Muslims do not respect that rule no more.

Just to clarify, being born into a Muslim family does not automatically make a person a Muslim.

So you know my girlfriend better than I do huh ? :rolleyes:
She was born as a Muslim and is a Muslim, I think I couldn't make it more clear if I tried.
And you have more chances to be a Muslim if you were born into a Muslim family

[Polka.dot]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Polka.dot
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
You basically proved my point without being aware of. You just said the man was stronger and was responsible of his family.
And I'd rather trust my girlfriend who was born as a Muslim than you, who are trying to convert but it's not the question.
I never said smoking was prohibited, it is not encouraged unlike drinking which is just bad but a lot of young Muslims do not respect that rule no more.

Just to clarify, being born into a Muslim family does not automatically make a person a Muslim.

So you know my girlfriend better than I do huh ? :rolleyes:
She was born as a Muslim and is a Muslim, I think I couldn't make it more clear if I tried.
And you have more chances to be a Muslim if you were born into a Muslim family

That's fair enough - this is nothing to do with your girlfriend. I was on about in general.

[Slezer]

Alex isnt a real muslim. In south London there are a lot of gangs that require you to convert to join. This is because a lot of gang members who go to prison ended up converting inside then coming out continuing to participate in gangland activity.

Her ex-boyfriend (on murder charges) is part of a big muslim gang, which is why Im guessing she decided to convert.

[letmein]

Originally posted by Nurse57
"Most muslims wont give a toss"

I think you will find that is the Catholics. :spin2:

Uh, what? They would burn Dennis at the stake. :joker:

[AngRemembered]

quote]

:nono: [/quote]

Oh Mat, I could not resist it, please help me and delete it for me honey. :kiss: :whistle:

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : Slezer
Alex isnt a real muslim. In south London there are a lot of gangs that require you to convert to join. This is because a lot of gang members who go to prison ended up converting inside then coming out continuing to participate in gangland activity.

Her ex-boyfriend (on murder charges) is part of a big muslim gang, which is why Im guessing she decided to convert.

If she decided to convert then she's a real Muslim. :thumbs:

[farhad]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by farhad
Islam is the true religion

That could be pretty offensive to people of other religions on the forum.

Ok I apologise but to me it is the complete truth.:thumbs:

If people were more understanding with their beliefs and could see it from someone else’s side and didn't make statements like that, there would be a lot less trouble surrounding religion.

It’s all the ‘holier than thou’ attitudes of everyone thinking they’re right and everyone else is wrong that promotes the divides and leads to the hostility that exists between different faiths.

Islam never allows hostility of other faith as it is mentioned several times:

2:256 "There is no compulsion in religion, for the right way is clearly from the wrong way"

2:62 "Surely, those who believe, those who are Jewish, the Christians, and the Sabians; anyone who (1) believes in GOD, and (2) believes in the Last Day, and (3) leads a righteous life, will receive their recompense from their Lord. They have nothing to fear, nor will they grieve."

[letmein]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by antd
religion is for idiots, no joke

It's funny when people talk about 'double standards'. Of course there are 'double standards' otherwise the world would be without human beings.

Islam is the true religion, no wonder why millions choose to convert to it.

Yes. Sure. It's a religion that kills people over newspaper cartoons.

[letmein]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : farhad

Then she is wrong IMO, in the Quran a man is given responsibility, not superiority, which means a man should look after his wife and children, earn for them because bioligically a man is physically stronger so he has been given his duty to perform it, and guide them, but he cant force them if they disobey him, thats all in the Quran that force and dictatorship is prohibited, only he should guide them. Smoking isn't neccessarily prohibited but it discouraged. Drinking though is completely prohibited.

You basically proved my point without being aware of. You just said the man was stronger and was responsible of his family.
And I'd rather trust my girlfriend was was born as a Muslim than you, who are trying to convert but it's not the question.
I never said smoking was prohibited, it is not encouraged unlike drinking which is just bad but a lot of young Muslims do not respect that rule no more.

Yes Biolgically he is stronger so he can perform his duty better, he has 100% financial obligation to his wife, a wife can work if she wishes in the community according to Islam buts its not compulsory, but a choice and all her earnings is hers and she doesn't have spend the money as God has made a husband responsible for the financial aspect.

Biologically he's stronger? Religion doesn't deal with facts. Thanks. :rolleyes:

[AngRemembered]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by AngnAndy
the only thing I saw 'it' do with any reference to islam was getting dressed one morning in the luxery bedroom.
She was trying on a pair of jeans and asked Sylvia..
Edited - Ash.

:nono:

thankyou :blush2:

[Bells]

Originally posted by letmein
Yes. Sure. It's a religion that kills people over newspaper cartoons.

Eh? If you're on about the Danish cartoons, they were disrespectful to the religion itself in the first place.

I'll be honest and admit I haven't heard of any killings though.

As a general rule, please remember not to get personal, or make offensive statements on TiBB.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Slezer
Her ex-boyfriend (on murder charges) is part of a big muslim gang,

Sounds like a crazy sort of hypocrisy to me.

Just something about the: 'on murder charges' and 'muslim gang'...

[farhad]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Polka.dot
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
You basically proved my point without being aware of. You just said the man was stronger and was responsible of his family.
And I'd rather trust my girlfriend who was born as a Muslim than you, who are trying to convert but it's not the question.
I never said smoking was prohibited, it is not encouraged unlike drinking which is just bad but a lot of young Muslims do not respect that rule no more.

Just to clarify, being born into a Muslim family does not automatically make a person a Muslim.

So you know my girlfriend better than I do huh ? :rolleyes:
She was born as a Muslim and is a Muslim, I think I couldn't make it more clear if I tried.
And you have more chances to be a Muslim if you were born into a Muslim family

In our belief is everyone in the world who is born was born sinless and born as a muslim, its later when they grow up they convert to another religion because their parents are not muslims.

[letmein]

Originally posted by bringbackscience
Must muslims wont give a toss

Unless it's a cartoon in a newspaper. :rolleyes:

Alex has been a Muslim for two weeks. She's a ****ing idiot.

Doesn't she realize that not every religious person is Conservative, and a backwards idiot?

She needs to head to Iran.

She should have her face covered. Then we wouldn't have to see her dog face. Too bad they don't use muzzles.

[letmein]

Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by letmein
Yes. Sure. It's a religion that kills people over newspaper cartoons.

Eh? If you're on about the Danish cartoons, they were disrespectful to the religion itself in the first place.

I'll be honest and admit I haven't heard of any killings though.

As a general rule, please remember not to get personal, or make offensive statements on TiBB.

You're saying that rioting and setting fire to buildings was reasonable?

They're a bunch of Neanderthals, and I'm not talking about every Muslim, only idiots like Alex.

[Matt10k]

There were death threats to the people who drew the cartoons and rewards placed on them for their deaths, police even arrested people for plotting to murder them. They also torched a couple of Danish embassies if I remember correctly.

[farhad]

Originally posted by letmein
Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by antd
religion is for idiots, no joke

It's funny when people talk about 'double standards'. Of course there are 'double standards' otherwise the world would be without human beings.

Islam is the true religion, no wonder why millions choose to convert to it.

Yes. Sure. It's a religion that kills people over newspaper cartoons.

What would you do if someone accused and said something against your mother or father without any proof.

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : farhad
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Polka.dot
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
You basically proved my point without being aware of. You just said the man was stronger and was responsible of his family.
And I'd rather trust my girlfriend who was born as a Muslim than you, who are trying to convert but it's not the question.
I never said smoking was prohibited, it is not encouraged unlike drinking which is just bad but a lot of young Muslims do not respect that rule no more.

Just to clarify, being born into a Muslim family does not automatically make a person a Muslim.

So you know my girlfriend better than I do huh ? :rolleyes:
She was born as a Muslim and is a Muslim, I think I couldn't make it more clear if I tried.
And you have more chances to be a Muslim if you were born into a Muslim family

In our belief is everyone in the world who is born was born sinless and born as a muslim, its later when they grow up they convert to another religion because their parents are not muslims.

I know that part too (I don't know many but the principal ones lol) but I told that member on a social side, not the religious one.
You have better chances to adopt your family's religion than another one, no matter what this religion is.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by farhad
What would you do if someone accused and said something against your mother or father without any proof.

I wouldn't kill them. Is that what you are suggesting?

[Bells]

Originally posted by letmein
They're a bunch of Neanderthals, and I'm not talking about every Muslim, only idiots like Alex.

I agree about Alex - I don't think she represents any faith at all.

[farhad]

Originally posted by letmein
Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by letmein
Yes. Sure. It's a religion that kills people over newspaper cartoons.

Eh? If you're on about the Danish cartoons, they were disrespectful to the religion itself in the first place.

I'll be honest and admit I haven't heard of any killings though.

As a general rule, please remember not to get personal, or make offensive statements on TiBB.

You're saying that rioting and setting fire to buildings was reasonable?

Get the **** over it. They're a bunch of Neanderthals, and I'm not talking about every Muslim, only idiots like Alex.

It was a demonstration against allegation made against our beloved prophet, the video fitna was totally edited and verse twisted around to show Quran emcourages killings of every non-believers when the verse only refers battle to a war in self-defence against the cruel Pagan tribes of mecca.

[letmein]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by letmein
Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by antd
religion is for idiots, no joke

It's funny when people talk about 'double standards'. Of course there are 'double standards' otherwise the world would be without human beings.

Islam is the true religion, no wonder why millions choose to convert to it.

Yes. Sure. It's a religion that kills people over newspaper cartoons.

What would you do if someone accused and said something against your mother or father without any proof.

What are you on about?

[farhad]

Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : farhad
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Polka.dot
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
You basically proved my point without being aware of. You just said the man was stronger and was responsible of his family.
And I'd rather trust my girlfriend who was born as a Muslim than you, who are trying to convert but it's not the question.
I never said smoking was prohibited, it is not encouraged unlike drinking which is just bad but a lot of young Muslims do not respect that rule no more.

Just to clarify, being born into a Muslim family does not automatically make a person a Muslim.

So you know my girlfriend better than I do huh ? :rolleyes:
She was born as a Muslim and is a Muslim, I think I couldn't make it more clear if I tried.
And you have more chances to be a Muslim if you were born into a Muslim family

In our belief is everyone in the world who is born was born sinless and born as a muslim, its later when they grow up they convert to another religion because their parents are not muslims.

I know that part too (I don't know many but the principal ones lol) but I told that member on a social side, not the religious one.
You have better chances to adopt your family's religion than another one, no matter what this religion is.

Basically you have to just look at the definition of muslim and Islam word, Islam was prescribed to whole of mankind, its a religion for everybody.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by farhad
It was a demonstration against allegation made against our beloved prophet, the video fitna was totally edited and verse twisted around to show Quran emcourages killings of every non-believers when the verse only refers battle to a war in self-defence against the cruel Pagan tribes of mecca.

Setting fire to buildings that had nothing to do with the cartoons (they just happened to be the same nationality) isn't a demonstration- it is rioting.

[letmein]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by letmein
Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by letmein
Yes. Sure. It's a religion that kills people over newspaper cartoons.

Eh? If you're on about the Danish cartoons, they were disrespectful to the religion itself in the first place.

I'll be honest and admit I haven't heard of any killings though.

As a general rule, please remember not to get personal, or make offensive statements on TiBB.

You're saying that rioting and setting fire to buildings was reasonable?

Get the **** over it. They're a bunch of Neanderthals, and I'm not talking about every Muslim, only idiots like Alex.

It was a demonstration against allegation made against our beloved prophet, the video fitna was totally edited and verse twisted around to show Quran emcourages killings of every non-believers when the verse only refers battle to a war in self-defence against the cruel Pagan tribes of mecca.

A demonstration to kill people, set fire, and chop off their heads of anyone who dare criticize their prophet and or religion. Good luck with that. It came out of their mouths, and we had the footage daily of them rioting. Enough with the PC nonsense. It is what it is, and was what it was. Don't re-write history.

These idiots give their religion a bad name, and there's millions of them. Alex isn't even on the same radar. She's just a ghetto trash idiot.

[06marsh]

Originally posted by antd
religion is for idiots, no joke

It's funny when people talk about 'double standards'. Of course there are 'double standards' otherwise the world would be without human beings.

Who are you to call religious people idiots?

Prick :mad:

[farhad]

Originally posted by letmein
Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by letmein
Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by antd
religion is for idiots, no joke

It's funny when people talk about 'double standards'. Of course there are 'double standards' otherwise the world would be without human beings.

Islam is the true religion, no wonder why millions choose to convert to it.

Yes. Sure. It's a religion that kills people over newspaper cartoons.

What would you do if someone accused and said something against your mother or father without any proof.

What are you on about?

For example the person who published those cartoons accused the prophet of as a suicide bomber, a terrorist, people were offended, so a similar question is what will you do if someone accused your mother or father of something which you found offensive?

[letmein]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : farhad
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Polka.dot
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
You basically proved my point without being aware of. You just said the man was stronger and was responsible of his family.
And I'd rather trust my girlfriend who was born as a Muslim than you, who are trying to convert but it's not the question.
I never said smoking was prohibited, it is not encouraged unlike drinking which is just bad but a lot of young Muslims do not respect that rule no more.

Just to clarify, being born into a Muslim family does not automatically make a person a Muslim.

So you know my girlfriend better than I do huh ? :rolleyes:
She was born as a Muslim and is a Muslim, I think I couldn't make it more clear if I tried.
And you have more chances to be a Muslim if you were born into a Muslim family

In our belief is everyone in the world who is born was born sinless and born as a muslim, its later when they grow up they convert to another religion because their parents are not muslims.

I know that part too (I don't know many but the principal ones lol) but I told that member on a social side, not the religious one.
You have better chances to adopt your family's religion than another one, no matter what this religion is.

Basically you have to just look at the definition of muslim and Islam word, Islam was prescribed to whole of mankind, its a religion for everybody.

Unless you're a woman, gay, or a non-believer. Yep.

Enough with the religious debate. We're getting to serious now.

[06marsh]

Originally posted by Nurse57
"Most muslims wont give a toss"

I think you will find that is the Catholics. :spin2:

What have catholics got to do with anything?

[farhad]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Originally posted by farhad
It was a demonstration against allegation made against our beloved prophet, the video fitna was totally edited and verse twisted around to show Quran emcourages killings of every non-believers when the verse only refers battle to a war in self-defence against the cruel Pagan tribes of mecca.

Setting fire to buildings that had nothing to do with the cartoons (they just happened to be the same nationality) isn't a demonstration- it is rioting.

demonstration go on everywhere, why should muslims be singled out? But in Quran it allows peaceful demonstration not only the criminal should be punished not the innocent ones.

[06marsh]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by antd
religion is for idiots, no joke

It's funny when people talk about 'double standards'. Of course there are 'double standards' otherwise the world would be without human beings.

Islam is the true religion, no wonder why millions choose to convert to it.

Proof?

[Captain.Remy]

Message original : letmein

Unless you're a woman, gay, or a non-believer. Yep.

I'm a straight catholic man. What should I do ? :laugh:

[Matt10k]

Ironically, many religions set their rules in place to promote peace, yet the attitudes they create amongst people that follow them- at times can be one of the biggest disturbers of the peace.

[farhad]

Originally posted by letmein
Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by letmein
Originally posted by Ash
Originally posted by letmein
Yes. Sure. It's a religion that kills people over newspaper cartoons.

Eh? If you're on about the Danish cartoons, they were disrespectful to the religion itself in the first place.

I'll be honest and admit I haven't heard of any killings though.

As a general rule, please remember not to get personal, or make offensive statements on TiBB.

You're saying that rioting and setting fire to buildings was reasonable?

Get the **** over it. They're a bunch of Neanderthals, and I'm not talking about every Muslim, only idiots like Alex.

It was a demonstration against allegation made against our beloved prophet, the video fitna was totally edited and verse twisted around to show Quran emcourages killings of every non-believers when the verse only refers battle to a war in self-defence against the cruel Pagan tribes of mecca.

A demonstration to kill people, set fire, and chop off their heads of anyone who dare criticize their prophet and or religion. Good luck with that. It came out of their mouths, and we had the footage daily of them rioting. Enough with the PC nonsense. It is what it is, and was what it was. Don't re-write history.

These idiots give their religion a bad name, and there's millions of them. Alex isn't even on the same radar. She's just a ghetto trash idiot.

Yes the person who did this should of been punished, this cartoon thing didn't go on for a week, they were publishing these over several months, and the muslims didn't retaliate, there were many dialogues given to them to stop publishing the offensive cartoons, but they said that it was free speech, so it carried on, and then published in France until it got out of hand.

[Bells]

We're getting off topic now. This thread is to discuss Alex & Mo's actions within the house.
Please start a new thread on the Danish cartoons if you wish, otherwise the thread will be locked. Thanks.

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by Matt10k
Setting fire to buildings that had nothing to do with the cartoons (they just happened to be the same nationality) isn't a demonstration- it is rioting.

demonstration go on everywhere, why should muslims be singled out? But in Quran it allows peaceful demonstration not only the criminal should be punished not the innocent ones.

How is setting fire to a Danish embassy a demonstration? How is it peaceful?!

How are death threats a demonstration and how are they peaceful?!

I think you should at least admit, these were not demonstrations. If you say the people that rioted were poor examples of the Islamic faith, I will respect that.

Also, I presume you also think stoning women to death for committing adultery or after they are raped in places like Afganistan is a bad example of the religion also.

Do these people deserve to be called Muslims if this is how they act?

[Matt10k]

Originally posted by Ash
We're getting off topic now. This thread is to discuss Alex & Mo's actions within the house.
Please start a new thread on the Danish cartoons if you wish, otherwise the thread will be locked. Thanks.

Sorry, didn't see this till after I'd wrote that...

[farhad]

Originally posted by 06marsh
Originally posted by farhad
Originally posted by antd
religion is for idiots, no joke

It's funny when people talk about 'double standards'. Of course there are 'double standards' otherwise the world would be without human beings.

Islam is the true religion, no wonder why millions choose to convert to it.

Proof?

Proof of the matter is 6 millions muslimliving in America are said to be converts reported by CNN.

Proof of it is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X4C-jgnrBGs

And CNN Report
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a03UB3m_yvg

[farhad]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Ironically, many religions set their rules in place to promote peace, yet the attitudes they create amongst people that follow them- at times can be one of the biggest disturbers of the peace.

Thes also in non-religion.

[Bells]

Originally posted by Matt10k
Do these people deserve to be called Muslims if this is how they act?

No they don't. And thread locked.