Is C4 getting people to vote out Michelle so their new chosen one can be crowned winner for PC reasons

[Sticks]

Some posters have pointed out that, as I have been pointing out, that Stuart is just as much into Michelle and is not quite the frightened bunny rabbit as some would have us believe.

However C4 editing is being done such as to make people hate Michelle and evict her.

The polls now show that she is miles in front of Jason for being evicted

So why is C4 editing her so badly :conf:

Then it occurred to me, as I thought of past BB's

BB2 was remembered for Paul and Helen yes, but it was Brian who won it.

On a programme I once saw, they pointed out that it was wonderful that Britain was the first country where an openly gay person won. (I would say that his sexuality was irrelevant C4 wanted a PC first)

In BB3, there was the suspicion that C4/Endemol wanted Alex to win and edited the programme to influence the result. The last Psyche show they did was nothing more than singing the praises of Alex and character assassinations of all the others :mad:

BB4 - Total incompetance (Nuff said)

Now with BB5

At one point it seemed that Michelle was possibly second favourite to win, close to Nardia.

Now, thanks to C4 editing, she has virtually been evicted already, Friday night is a mere formality.

Why would they do this

Perhaps they want to ensure that Nardia is the winner

Why?

So C4 can come out and smugly say that Britain is the first country where a transexual can win.

I have stayed out of the transexual arguments, save only for a clarification of UK law, but Nardia's aim was to be accepted without anyone making anything of her past. If C4 have done this for PC brownie points, then they are doing her a great disservice :mad:

[Kore]

Sticks i do agree with you about bb editing to make certain members look unpopular!

when they gave nadia the laughing task, obviosly wanted her to stay in, and want her to win!
making every1 laugh to make her more poular and showing it b evictions came out!, the cheek,
trying to manipulate us and make jay look boring...

[AndyJK]

Watching the edited highlights I can't imagine Nadia being put in anymore negative light than she has been already. Yesterday evening's show, for example, consisted of her 'best bits' laughing hysterically after farting, getting agitated and deliberately awkward at being weighed and then shouting and screaming on the porch for no particular reason (her endearing qualities, apparantly :rolleyes:).

I agree partly that C4 might edit the programme to manipulate the voting, but for this series I blame the core voters at home who view entertaining housemates as "baddies" and quiet hosuemates as "goodies" which has been a trend since series 1.

[dustmite]

The laughing task what not specifically for Nadia, they called a housemate to the diary room, she ran to it as she always does.

[john2000]

agree dustmine.for the laughing task nadia happened to ran into the diary room.nadia to win

[Sticks]

For the record I have nothing against Nardia, unlike the issues I had with Alex.

My job as Cyber Devil's Advocate is to get my client to the final. It is not usually my job to help them win.

But if there is a lets make Nardia the C4 chosen one, I may have to be part of a stop Nardia campaign, after consultations.

[bananarama]

BBLB is working overtime with it's anti Michelle stance.

If the info on Digital spy is correct then on thursday BBLB will be having a Radio one presenter on the show knowing he hates Michelle......That close to friday...Fishy indeed.....

However even if Michelle stays she is no obvious threat to Nadia winning. The PC brigade have already decided that......:mad:

[Sticks]

Someone on another forum has pointed out that C4 is being deliberately anti-Michelle

[golden~rose]

right now it doesnt look like nadia is going to win it though. as people like stu. once again i think its going to be cameren number 2

[Scuzz]

I dont what to think because i do not think channel four could get away with the editing with out in been published. Its next to impossible really. The big brother channel 4 crew is huge some one would spill. Maybe the people who work on the editing sectionhave a favorite between them. Oh i dont know am probably speaking aload of bull but i aint show if they could pull it off. I think it maybe paranoyer

[AndyJK]

They must be very gullible changing their vote simply because some non-entity of a radio DJ hates Michelle. I don't think we should worry too much on that front. There was quite a bit of support for Victor on BBLB last week but it didn't stop him being evicted. I think BBLB, on the whole, does try and remain impartial by giving equal support and criticisms to all the remainding housemates. But because Michelle has been a talking point of late she'll probably be given more airtime for discussion. It won't change much how the public vote only stengthen their already held views.

It's not BBLB or these C-list celebrities coming on giving their views that's the problem. It's simply this: The show is watched by a majority of very young people who support housemates based on their good looks, niceness, how quiet they can be and loud they can scream.

So Either Nadia, Shell or Stuart to win. :bored::bored::bored:

[bananarama]

I have always believed in the band wagon effect when it comes to human psychology. Drip feed enough anti material and that effect will kick in.

The other evening when BB had team hansom on that was four people inc Dermot that was making subtle but anti remarks against Michelle. There was no one to defend her corner. This year BBLB is much worse than usual for not being impartial enough.

[AndyJK]

I couldn't care who team handsome are frankly, or any of these people with little badges of their favourite housemate(s) on but I do understand your point that all those pubescant teenagers with <insert boy band here> posters adorning the bedroom walls watching might be swayed by their appearance.

I feel so helpess in my parellel universe :bawling:

[lets get evil]

They obviously can manipulate voting by selective broadcasting but with Michelle it would be hard to be selective as she chases the cameras constantly and falsely puts on performances then checks the cameras are in the right place, thats why she should go and thats only one of a zillion reasons why we should make her go............

:devil:

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by lets get evil
They obviously can manipulate voting by selective broadcasting but with Michelle it would be hard to be selective as she chases the cameras constantly and falsely puts on performances then checks the cameras are in the right place, thats why she should go and thats only one of a zillion reasons why we should make her go............

:devil:

I don't care if Michelle has a gameplan, chases the camaras to look glamerous or that her romance with Stu is all one big sham to keep her inside.

I want Michelle to stay because she's one of three remaining housemates that has any personality, charisma and appeal. Anyone who wants her out rather than Stu, Shell or Nadia does not live on the same planet as me.

[Mike]

Ive watched C4 highlights tonight and its only made me want to see Michelle out the house even more, i feel sorry for Shell in this task because Michelle is even bossing her around and i dont even know how Jason is coping with her.

[shellspeare]

channel four have always tried to manipulate big brother, i could give countless examples but those avid e4 veiwers amongst you will know what i mean. you only need to sit a few hours on their official forums to see what they want you to believe as posts and threads against their plan are quickly deleted and good friends with real opinions have even been banned for being too opinionated, (another reason i love unofficial forums)
i totally agree with your theory sticks (brilliant post yet again xx)
you did forget to mention that ch4 have decided to highlight jasons 'humourous' moments, the first time in 9 weeks!
personally i think it is disgusting how they are allowed to get away with it, but it seems to be part and parcel with big brother now. just a shame that the fully devoted fans of bb, and not the ones just tuning into the highlight show, are the ones that decide housemates fate, but such is life.

how ironic is their slogan........ who goes? channel four decides!

[She Devil]

What about E4. You can watch that near enough all day so there is no editing there, just sound dips. All the house mates have been together for the last couple of days so its not like the camera can skip from one room to another showing different Hm in different rooms.

I'm sorry but michelle really needs to go on Friday for the sake of women kind everywhere.

[golden~rose]

agree:thumbs:

[James]

Not understanding this conspiracy theory myself. If Michelle goes this week how does that help Nadia?

[IhateMichelle]

I don't know what Channel 4 are doing but if they ARE actually trying to get rid of Michelle then I'm all for it - whoever came up with describing her as a 'bunny boiler' is a genius. I have absolutely despised her from about week 2, or around the time she first started devouring Stuart (probably the most boring person in the world). It was that time they were in bed and kissing and then she said ' will you be ok with me in the morning?' 'Kiss me Stu and tell me it'll be ok' - Oh my God, you'd have thought someone had died. It's one thing being insecure and clingy and needy but she really takes the biscuit. She has then gone on to show what a self-centred, selfish, attention-seeking, psycho she is. That time she got nominated by Becky she lost the plot so much I thought she was gonna stab someone.(But she didn't lose the plot in a funny Ahmed way, just in a bunny-boiling one) As for the whole bride thing and her resentment at having a minor role, well that speaks for itself. Now she's started telling Stu he shouldn't go and see his family when he gets out but should shack up with her...this isn't young love, it called mentally unstable. And seeing her victimize Shell today - forcing her to sleep in scratchy tracksuit bottoms...I was begging she would wake up and catch the love of her life cuddling up to Shell.
She just has to go, if anything because she'll take it more badly and unsportsmanlike than anyone in the history of Big Brother - probably chain herself to Stuart and refuse to leave or persuade him he should leave with her.

'Out, out, out' with the 'fat Geordie Scrubber' as the Mirror's Kevin O'Sullivan calls her.

[golden~rose]

i cant understand it either james, i dont know how michelle can influence nadia!!

[IhateMichelle]

I don't know what Channel 4 are doing but if they ARE actually trying to get rid of Michelle then I'm all for it - whoever came up with describing her as a 'bunny boiler' is a genius. I have absolutely despised her from about week 2, or around the time she first started devouring Stuart (probably the most boring person in the world). It was that time they were in bed and kissing and then she said ' will you be ok with me in the morning?' 'Kiss me Stu and tell me it'll be ok' - Oh my God, you'd have thought someone had died. It's one thing being insecure and clingy and needy but she really takes the biscuit. She has then gone on to show what a self-centred, selfish, attention-seeking, psycho she is. That time she got nominated by Becky she lost the plot so much I thought she was gonna stab someone.(But she didn't lose the plot in a funny Ahmed way, just in a bunny-boiling one) As for the whole bride thing and her resentment at having a minor role, well that speaks for itself. Now she's started telling Stu he shouldn't go and see his family when he gets out but should shack up with her...this isn't young love, it called mentally unstable. And seeing her victimize Shell today - forcing her to sleep in scratchy tracksuit bottoms...I was begging she would wake up and catch the love of her life cuddling up to Shell.
She just has to go, if anything because she'll take it more badly and unsportsmanlike than anyone in the history of Big Brother - probably chain herself to Stuart and refuse to leave or persuade him he should leave with her.

'Out, out, out' with the 'fat Geordie Scrubber' as the Mirror's Kevin O'Sullivan calls her.

[IhateMichelle]

sorry don't know why my post got posted again, I didn't mean to do it - I'm not some sort of freak (unlike someone I can think of...)

[Mike]

I agree with you what you said in your post about Michelle and im definately all for C4 making look Michelle bad because she needs to go and im not even really sure how shes made it this far. I feel sorry for Shell not only in this task but the way Michelle keeps saying "are you trying to pinch my man" and also as soon as she saw Stu talking to Shell on the bed she was like lets do something as a group which i thought was major jealousy, so if people are thinking properly vote Michelle out this week because she would get really jealous watching Stu in the house with Shell even though their not actually doing anything.

[Sticks]

It is simple

at one point Michelle was seen as a possible winner

Nadia is the chosen one

All threats must be eliminated

[She Devil]

I'd give up if I was you Sticks. Michelle will be going on Friday.

[Dan_]

I am glad she is going on Friday. I think it's nit wits voting thats the problem not the editing. Just watch e4 if you are not happy with the edited version. They can olny show so much each night.

[kaphc]

I think it's pretty obvious that C4 are editting the show so that people have reasons to vote out Jason (because he's fed up now) OR Michelle (because her self-centred attitude is getting very annoying).

They know that they will get most money from the phone votes if it's a two-horse race rather than if there were just the one strong contender.

[AndyJK]

If you're all agreed C4 is deliberately manipulating the vote by showing Michelle in a bad light, then that's every reason not to vote for her.

[JC]

I watch E4 quite a lot and she seems just the same on that as she does on the highlight show.

[BusyBee]

I dont think Michelle needs editing to show her for the bunny boiler that she is. On the live feed she behaves exactly the same. Poor Stuart cant move for her If she had her way he wouldnt move an inch from her side.

As for Nadia if they have edited her, they have still shown her getting annoyed, shouting at people, that awful laugh, moaning about no cigarettes. If that is positive editing I'll eat my hat.

[She Devil]

I agree JC. Infact she is worse, the C4 version only shows you a small percentage of what she does. She is completely nauseating

[AndyJK]

So I come back to what I've been arguing all along that Michelle is a character being herself and gives us something to talk about. Every reason to keep her in. Or do you all want the last week where we're discussing how boring the show is with the 'goodies' (BB definition: the ones who sit around deliberately being quiet or nice trying to avoid eviction) left?

It would seem the public still haven't learned from series 4 :bored:

[JC]

It's not so much I want her to go, I want Jay to stay for the final week. If I could acheive that by getting rid of Shell or Stu, I'd do that rather than boot Michelle out.

[lets get evil]

I like the avater JC, think of Michelles contorted face during her 'flip flop' brainflip with Ahmed.................now try to think what she will be like when she is voted out and the next day Stu is playing nude twister with shell and she has to sit in the studio talking about it............superb, it's supposed to be evil BB5 so vote Michelle out and lets see the fireworks.

:devil:

[bananarama]

The haters of Michelle are not the slightest bit interested in the entertainment value of the series. They have a hate bee in their bonnet that nothing will shift.

What we can all do after Friday when Michelle has gone is look forward to a collapse in the BB5 show that will degrade it to worse than that of BB4. Well done Michelle haters. well done......:devil:

[Mike]

Im interested in the entertainment thats exactly why i want her out

[jbellemeg]

The reason I would like Michelle to go on Friday, is to give Stuart a break.
Lets face it from day three he has had Michelle stalking him.
He hasn't fully had the BB experience.
I know he seems to be into her now ( I don't think it's an act ) but in the begining he couldn't move without her being in his face.
Let him have a week of the BB experience without the Ball and Chain even if it is the last week.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by bananarama
The haters of Michelle are not the slightest bit interested in the entertainment value of the series. They have a hate bee in their bonnet that nothing will shift.

What we can all do after Friday when Michelle has gone is look forward to a collapse in the BB5 show that will degrade it to worse than that of BB4. Well done Michelle haters. well done......:devil:

I don't understand why people dislike Michelle - let alone hate her :bored:. I've got to like her better since she left the bedsit where I actually believe her relationship with Stu is genuine. Ok, so she's had sex, but it had been over 7 weeks before they eventually got around to doing it. In some other foreign versions of the show, some couples were at it five times or more a day and being more conspicuous!


Originally posted by Mike
I'm interested in the entertainment thats exactly why i want her out

Please Mike, can you tell me how Stu Nice-But-Dim is more entertaining than Michelle? :conf: He can barely utter a sentence and when he does it's in monotone with long pauses in-between. Not to mention Shell and Nadia who are all equally boring and shouldn't be in the house at this stage. Their gameplans to avoid the public vote have worked and once again it's victory for the quiet contestants.

How they're all laughing at successfully manipulating the gullible British public keeping up the trend by voting out the characters :bored:

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by jbellemeg
The reason I would like Michelle to go on Friday, is to give Stuart a break.
Lets face it from day three he has had Michelle stalking him.
He hasn't fully had the BB experience.
I know he seems to be into her now ( I don't think it's an act ) but in the begining he couldn't move without her being in his face.
Let him have a week of the BB experience without the Ball and Chain even if it is the last week.

:thumbs::thumbs::thumbs:

Yeah poor Stu. I mean, a man boasting 4 A Levels being stalked for two months by some inarticulate Geordie he worships obeying her every command calling her "a legend" and "amazing". Poor sod. I agree give him a break he's been under so much stress. :rolleyes:

[She Devil]

He must be stressed if he thinks shes an amazing legend.

[bananarama]

Give Stu a break. oh come on give us a break. If Stu wanted a break from Michelle he is capable of that himself. Even little boys like Stu rebel against lack of freedom. Stu is loving it.

You do him no favours at all by voting Michelle out. You do the show even less. Not allowing Michelle to be in the final week is the assassination of BB5......No more no less...

What are you left with when Michelle has gone..

Nadia a walking fag butt impersonating a hyena
Dan the real slapper of the group with a score card of two mounts a week
Jason a miserable moaning git
Stuart a little boy lost
Shell a nice girl but has done little to deserve winning status.
The only deserving winner now that the character of Victor has gone is in fact Michelle..

[lets get evil]

I appreciate some of what your saying bananarama but with respect I think you are confusing an interesting personality with an obsessive, phychotic, dangerously jealous, publicity seeker, baps out if in trouble, childish personality and I think that a few of the HM will open up more if the shapeshifter is voted out.

Think evil......Vote Michelle :devil:

[golden~rose]

i just dont agree on that. michelle hasnt done anything but kiss, cuddle and have a romp with stu...and oh yeah, throw occasional tantrums whenever shes nominated, wonder what she will do this time round??

[bananarama]

I think you are confusing an interesting personality with an obsessive, phychotic, dangerously jealous, publicity seeker, baps out if in trouble, childish personality and I think that a few of the HM will open up more if the shapeshifter is voted out.


With respect that really does sound like a person that's lost the plot somewhat.

Don't you think it would be more constuctive in life to learn to understand people instead of hating them for the most trivial of reasons. !!!

[kaphc]

I think the question question Davina asked was around who doesn't deserve to be in the final week?

So how do we decide who "deserves" to be there?


Personality?
Entertainment value?
Whether they are a nice person?
Whether they are annoying?

etc. etc.

I'm sure we all have our own lists, but bascially the bottom line is that watching Michelle makes BB5 less enjoyable for me. I cringe at some of her possessive ways and childish, self-centred comments. I'd rather watch a group of people being nice to each other and having fun than an insecure, needy, clinging wannabe porn star.

[bananarama]

Well Dermot must be getting feed back about impartiality towards Michelle. After showing yet another scene of Michelle showing jelousy which actually was just her joking about.

He then said we arn't trying to be anti Michelle she just keeps saying these things......If they had half a brain cell or impartiality it would be obvious but to those who do not want to see that for most of the time she is ljust eg pulling.

BBLB and Michelle haters just twist everything out of proportion in the same way tabloids do...:mad:

[AndyJK]

Originally posted by lets get evil
I appreciate some of what your saying bananarama but with respect I think you are confusing an interesting personality with an obsessive, phychotic, dangerously jealous, publicity seeker, baps out if in trouble, childish personality and I think that a few of the HM will open up more if the shapeshifter is voted out.

Think evil......Vote Michelle :devil:

With respect, I've heard kinder things said about Fred West.

You should post on Digital Spy, I'm sure you'll be welcome with open arms by similar like-minded people as yourself no doubt share your loathing for Michelle.

[vicky]

it seems to me that the whole task was devised to upset michelle so that they could show her in a negative light all week and make as much money as possible on her eviction.

[lets get evil]

[/quote]

With respect that really does sound like a person that's lost the plot somewhat.

Don't you think it would be more constuctive in life to learn to understand people instead of hating them for the most trivial of reasons. !!! [/quote]

It not about hating people it's about giving reasons for wanting people out the house, I do understand the way people work and thats my opinion of what Michelle is like on the show by personal observations not by imagining a sad homelife etc............

[Maggie]

At least when we had proper interactive on E 4 we could have more choice in who and what we watched. it's been rubbish for the last few years. The best being BB2. Two Live screen, 2 hour delay and 4 hour delay. cut out a lot of the boring stuff.

We will always be at the mercy of C4 and who they want to go each week and who they want to win, just so easy for them to do. All the housemates give the will give them stuff they can use as they can't keep an act up 24/7

As for Michelle, the task was made for her reaction, they knew what she would be like, we all did.
I think it was also made for Jason, but he did't take the bait, to canny, as he was last week when Victor had the argument with Shell then sounded off, he kept very quite as not to drop himself in it. All mouth in the bedroom though.

[Sticks]

Just like the Wedding task the chain task was a complete set up from the start.

C4 / Endemol want Nadia to win for their own PC reasons and devised this to make sure Myra (sorry Michelle ) is seen in as bad a light as possible. The Sun is happy to comply.

Everyone of the copntestants has had a temper moment, yet this is ignored or forgotten.

Jason has now separated himself from the group but the damage has been done

Who goes C4 has decided and will make sure we all tow their party line, and we will. :mad:

[lets get evil]

Maggie said of Jason.............."All mouth in the bedroom though". :blush:

lol, okay then gives us the gossip...........so did you come up to Hamilton or did he come down to see you.:love:

[DanFanDanGo]

Originally posted by bananarama

I think you are confusing an interesting personality with an obsessive, phychotic, dangerously jealous, publicity seeker, baps out if in trouble, childish personality and I think that a few of the HM will open up more if the shapeshifter is voted out.


With respect that really does sound like a person that's lost the plot somewhat.

Don't you think it would be more constuctive in life to learn to understand people instead of hating them for the most trivial of reasons. !!!

I agree with Lets Get Evil. Michelle has forgotten that she is in the BB game show and is obsessively focused on Stu. I think she may even have forgotten WHY she is there, not to win BB but to get publicity for her job as a nude model.

But I am mainly posting this to point out that Bananarama is attacking the poster by saying 'With respect that really does sound like a person that's lost the plot somewhat.'

Bananarama is also being inconsistent by saying 'Don't you think it would be more constuctive in life to learn to understand people instead of hating them for the most trivial of reasons. !!!' when she is the one who posted this

Originally posted by bananarama
Nadia a walking fag butt impersonating a hyena
Dan the real slapper of the group with a score card of two mounts a week
Jason a miserable moaning git
Stuart a little boy lost
Shell a nice girl but has done little to deserve winning status.
The only deserving winner now that the character of Victor has gone is in fact Michelle..

Can't people just exchange views here without making it personal?

[DanFanDanGo]

:laugh: glad my post came out allright. I think Iv'e got the idea of this quoting lark now

[Kore]

lol, i agree with most things you said there banarama :laugh:
especially the nadia bit!!
but i dont know about michelle winning :/...
victor shud have stayed last week, its a fix!
shud have been nadia:bored: