Families should have no more than two children

[Sticks]

From the Daily Mail (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-467728/Families-children--thinktank.html)


Families should have no more than two children if they want to help combat climate change, according to new research by a thinktank.

According to the report, published by the Optimum Population Trust, Britain's high birth rate is a major factor in the current level of climate change, which can only be combatted if families voluntarily limit the number of children they have.

The report calls for a 'two-child' policy in the UK that would reduce the nation's population from 60 million, as it currently stands, to no more than 55 million by 2050.


This smacks of the China one child policy, but what do other people think?

[LemonJam]

If its to save Earth, so be it I suppose...

[Sam!]

Oops theres three kids in my familyy.. go on deport me.

[Shaun]

It's up to families how many children they have, not the State.

[bronaaaa]

Originally posted by Shaun
It's up to families how many children they have, not the State.

[xDramatick]

Originally posted by Fascination
Originally posted by Shaun
It's up to families how many children they have, not the State.

[Conor]

Originally posted by Darenn
Originally posted by Fascination
Originally posted by Shaun
It's up to families how many children they have, not the State.

[LemonJam]

Originally posted by LemonJam
If its to save Earth, so be it I suppose...

Sorry, I wasn't thinking properly...

From 2012 births or some time in the future it could be applied, not having children taken away etc

[SiaSiaSia]

Originally posted by Conor
Originally posted by Darenn
Originally posted by Fascination
Originally posted by Shaun
It's up to families how many children they have, not the State.

[Xander]

Originally posted by SiaSiaSia
Originally posted by Conor
Originally posted by Darenn
Originally posted by Fascination
Originally posted by Shaun
It's up to families how many children they have, not the State.

[MarkWaldorf]

Originally posted by Xander
Originally posted by SiaSiaSia
Originally posted by Conor
Originally posted by Darenn
Originally posted by Fascination
Originally posted by Shaun
It's up to families how many children they have, not the State.

[Princess]

Originally posted by Markus
Originally posted by Xander
Originally posted by SiaSiaSia
Originally posted by Conor
Originally posted by Darenn
Originally posted by Fascination
Originally posted by Shaun
It's up to families how many children they have, not the State.

[Nicky.]

Theres two in mine xD

But what about the families that have 1?

A family that has 3 makes up for that loss of one .. :) x

[Annie]

Eh sterlise all the lil skanks that pop kids out just to get free housing and plenty of benefits..

that will cut the population down.

People should only have children when they are ready and its not a 100% selfish act.

[Spike]

Its ridiculous what people are being told to do just to save the planet
It upto parents to decide how many children they have, telling people to have so many children something with Hitler did.
**** the planet, I don't care for it because I wont be here to see it in the supposed really bad times which lay ahead.
Instead of listening to **** like this people should be getting on with their own lives and doing what they want to. We only have one life so make the most of it.

[Sam!]

Originally posted by Nickyy
Theres two in mine xD

But what about the families that have 1?

A family that has 3 makes up for that loss of one .. :) x

Its more difficult than that :P lol

[Tom]

****** the planet, I hope everyone has 6 kids

[Markymark]

"Britain's high birth rate is a major factor in the current level of climate change". Possibly the stupidest statement I've heard this year. What high birth rate?! It's positive yes, but high, no chance. The main reason for our increasing population is immigration.

This has got nothing to with pollution and climate change. The Optimum Population Trust are a bunch of lunatics with an agenda, their policies remind me of Hilter somewhat, and the Chinese policy of course. We're constantly fed exaggerrated BS about how climate change will destroy the Earth by so many people.

[Tom8592]

Originally posted by Princess
Originally posted by Markus
Originally posted by Xander
Originally posted by SiaSiaSia
Originally posted by Conor
Originally posted by Darenn
Originally posted by Fascination
Originally posted by Shaun
It's up to families how many children they have, not the State.

[Billy]

Originally posted by Tom8592
Originally posted by Princess
Originally posted by Markus
Originally posted by Xander
Originally posted by SiaSiaSia
Originally posted by Conor
Originally posted by Darenn
Originally posted by Fascination
Originally posted by Shaun
It's up to families how many children they have, not the State.

[Shaun]

9 people quoting me. I'm happy.

[MrGaryy]

Originally posted by Shaun
9 people quoting me. I'm happy.

[Sticks]

How does one qualify to get on these so called think tanks?

[Captain.Remy]

The European population is getting older and older therefore we don't have young people like we used to before therefore Families should have more than 2 children because it has been stated that, in order to create a complete new generation, we need to reach ,at least, 2 children per family.

(Thanks to my Politics lessons at Uni lol)

[NettoSuperstar!]

I think its a good idea but you cant enforce it! Maybe they should sterilise anyone who hasnt got a job who has more than 2 kids!! lol

[bigbr0ther]

If you don't have anything ORIGINAL to say, don't post! It's so annoying scrolling through all of these "me too" posts.

ANYWAY, I don't think the population is too big yet, but if it reaches that point, families should be encouraged to have only two kids, though it shouldn't be a law.

[~Kizwiz~]

I dont have a problem with families that have more than 2 children unless they dont lounge on the state and have more kids to get more money.

I myself have 4 kids living at home, 2 from my partner pervious relationship, one from mine and we also have a baby together. I was raise also in with 4 kids.

[Nurse57]

Markymark, you said.

"The main reason for our increasing population is immigration."

Can I ask where you got this information, as the last available government figures (2006) do not agree with you.

Births: 690013
Immigration: 565000
Mean immigration taking into account people leaving the UK: 185000

[Markymark]

Originally posted by Nurse57
Markymark, you said.

"The main reason for our increasing population is immigration."

Can I ask where you got this information, as the last available government figures (2006) do not agree with you.

Births: 690013
Immigration: 565000
Mean immigration taking into account people leaving the UK: 185000

Birth rate doesn't cause the population to rise, natural increase does. Natural increase is birth rate - death rate. Besides, you don't actually believe the government figures on immigration, do you?

Figures from CIA:

Birth rate: 10.65 births/1,000 population (2008 est.)
Death rate: 10.05 deaths/1,000 population (2008 est.)
Natural increase: 0.60/1,000 population
Net migration rate: 2.17 migrant(s)/1,000 population (2008 est.)

[KKBL]

the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.

[Markymark]

Originally posted by KKBL
the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.

Only the third-world.

[Nicky.]

Originally posted by Scampi
Originally posted by Nickyy
Theres two in mine xD

But what about the families that have 1?

A family that has 3 makes up for that loss of one .. :) x

Its more difficult than that :P lol

I think on the easy side of things xD

We did it in Geography last year and thats what we got told xD

Apparently my 2020 the population will rise by 3 million :O!

[Spike]

Originally posted by bigbr0ther
If you don't have anything ORIGINAL to say, don't post! It's so annoying scrolling through all of these "me too" posts.


People can post what they want if their opinion is the same or different to others
So shut up and stop telling people what they can post

[Ruth]

I'm a third child, so I can't agree with that article!

Also, it's from the Daily Mail, which instantly sets me on guard. Frankly if people can't afford to have children or don't have the means to look after them, then they shouldn't have them. Just my opinion.

Anyway, the elderly outnumber the young at the moment.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by KKBL
the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.

Again - in the UK, the elderly outnumber the young. People are having less children than years ago. People are living longer. What do you suggest we do - control the population by killing off the elderly?!

[KKBL]

Originally posted by Markymark
Originally posted by KKBL
the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.

Only the third-world.

but its not posible to conroll the third world population.but it is posible to controll the westren world population.if we dont do it no one will.

[MR.K!]

im from a family of 6 and proud of it !

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Markymark
"Britain's high birth rate is a major factor in the current level of climate change". Possibly the stupidest statement I've heard this year. What high birth rate?! It's positive yes, but high, no chance. The main reason for our increasing population is immigration.

This has got nothing to with pollution and climate change. The Optimum Population Trust are a bunch of lunatics with an agenda, their policies remind me of Hilter somewhat, and the Chinese policy of course. We're constantly fed exaggerrated BS about how climate change will destroy the Earth by so many people.

Daily Mail reader, perchance?

[Markymark]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Markymark
"Britain's high birth rate is a major factor in the current level of climate change". Possibly the stupidest statement I've heard this year. What high birth rate?! It's positive yes, but high, no chance. The main reason for our increasing population is immigration.

This has got nothing to with pollution and climate change. The Optimum Population Trust are a bunch of lunatics with an agenda, their policies remind me of Hilter somewhat, and the Chinese policy of course. We're constantly fed exaggerrated BS about how climate change will destroy the Earth by so many people.

Daily Mail reader, perchance?

I don't read newspapers. I don't swing either way politically. Tree-hugger, perchance?

[Markymark]

Originally posted by KKBL
Originally posted by Markymark
Originally posted by KKBL
the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.

Only the third-world.

but its not posible to conroll the third world population.but it is posible to controll the westren world population.if we dont do it no one will.

But it doesn't need controlling. It is possible, we could drop a bomb on Africa. That wouldn't be ethical though, neither is telling people how many babies they should have.

[Ruth]

Originally posted by KKBL
Originally posted by Markymark
Originally posted by KKBL
the worlds population is getting out of control. we need child policys.

Only the third-world.

but its not posible to conroll the third world population.but it is posible to controll the westren world population.if we dont do it no one will.

Sigh.

Yes, it may be possible, but it's un-necessary. I'll say it again - the elderly are outnumbering the young at the moment. People are having less children (in the UK) than in years gone by. The population does not need controlling.

[Shaun]

Originally posted by Markymark
Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Markymark
"Britain's high birth rate is a major factor in the current level of climate change". Possibly the stupidest statement I've heard this year. What high birth rate?! It's positive yes, but high, no chance. The main reason for our increasing population is immigration.

This has got nothing to with pollution and climate change. The Optimum Population Trust are a bunch of lunatics with an agenda, their policies remind me of Hilter somewhat, and the Chinese policy of course. We're constantly fed exaggerrated BS about how climate change will destroy the Earth by so many people.

Daily Mail reader, perchance?

I don't read newspapers. I don't swing either way politically. Tree-hugger, perchance?

Not at all, I'm a conservative. I just find the claim that immigration is the main cause of our rising population to be absurd; as Nurse57 pointed out with some facts.

That, along with the skepticism regarding climate change, led me to draw comparisons between your views and those of the Daily Mail, that is all.

[Hey to Ruth btw, haven't seen you around in a while!]

[Sunny_01]

I am not sure how this is true when all we hear about at the moment is the ever ageing population that the UK has. So now we have too many old people and too many babies?

[Markymark]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Markymark
Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by Markymark
"Britain's high birth rate is a major factor in the current level of climate change". Possibly the stupidest statement I've heard this year. What high birth rate?! It's positive yes, but high, no chance. The main reason for our increasing population is immigration.

This has got nothing to with pollution and climate change. The Optimum Population Trust are a bunch of lunatics with an agenda, their policies remind me of Hilter somewhat, and the Chinese policy of course. We're constantly fed exaggerrated BS about how climate change will destroy the Earth by so many people.

Daily Mail reader, perchance?

I don't read newspapers. I don't swing either way politically. Tree-hugger, perchance?

Not at all, I'm a conservative. I just find the claim that immigration is the main cause of our rising population to be absurd; as Nurse57 pointed out with some facts.

That, along with the skepticism regarding climate change, led me to draw comparisons between your views and those of the Daily Mail, that is all.

[Hey to Ruth btw, haven't seen you around in a while!]

And I gave facts that proved I was right, you obviously aren't educated on the subject of demographics. What I said was fact, nothing to do with my opinion on immigration. A certain amount of immigration is vital to stop the population ageing too much. Nurse told us the birth rate, which is meaningless on its own. Countries like Germany and Italy would actually have declining populations if it wasn't for immigration.

I do have skepticism about climate change, but only about its extent and consequences, I'm not saying there's no climate change at all.

Edit: Here's more evidence. Net migration has been the primary cause of population increase for the last 10 years, and that's just the migration we know about.

http://www.statistics.gov.uk/cci/nugget.asp?ID=950

[Ruth]

Originally posted by Shaun


[Hey to Ruth btw, haven't seen you around in a while!]

Hi Shaun - nice to see you again!

[Sam!]

Oo wow its Ruth. :) Heeya

[Ruth]

Hi :wavey: