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Dannii Minogue has threatened to quit The X Factor because she is unhappy over her lack of screen time, a report claims.
The Aussie judge is believed to have voiced her dissatisfaction in a discussion with show boss Simon Cowell, claiming that she has hardly been seen on the ITV1 talent series while new judge Cheryl Cole has featured heavily.
The latest report follows claims that Minogue and Cole have been struggling to get along as they work together on the programme.
"Simon somehow wants to keep the peace between Cheryl and Dannii and avoid the feud turning into a full-blown crisis," a source told the Sunday Mirror. "He wants Dannii to stay and is desperate for the show and the judges to remain as they are.
"He's been absolutely thrilled with the impact that Cheryl has had though. It's been nothing short of sensational. She has the perfect face for TV and is loved by the camera, the viewers and the contestants."
Minogue's alleged complaints have been backed by some viewers, however. Fans questioned why the popstar is "hardly getting a look in" on the show at the beginning of this month.
Source (http://www.digitalspy.co.uk/xfactor/a131315/minogue-threatens-to-quit-over-cheryl.html)
:rolleyes:
SiaSiaSia
28-09-2008, 11:14 AM
i don't really like danni but i think as they are all judges they all deserve the same amount of time, reletavly. she's been backgrounded this series
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 11:14 AM
I just read that on DS lol. But she was never there, she would always be away filimng somewhere, how is that someone else's fault?
Billy
28-09-2008, 11:15 AM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
I just read that on DS lol. But she was never there, she would always be away filimng somewhere, how is that someone else's fault?
Actually. She was filming AGT once, and was late as she was at Kylies ceremony thing. However, the editing made it look like she was away for loads of auditions.
Oh and " a source told the Sunday Mirror"
30stone
28-09-2008, 11:16 AM
Could see it happeneing at some point really, but like sia said shes a judge she deserves as much time as any other judge on screen.
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 11:17 AM
She will get loads of screen time when they have to pick the people for the lives shows.
Greg.!
28-09-2008, 11:17 AM
its true but last year all cameras were on her and i love sharon but sharon had to cause alot of drama to get on cameras but this year when cheryl comes danni has done nothing and been boring so its her own fault
im not a big Danni fan but i have to agree with her.this sounds silly beacuse im usualy saying how i hate when people say their favourite HM is getting a "bad edit" by the BB producers but i think Danni is getting a bad edit by the XF producers as stupid as it sounds.
Benjamin
28-09-2008, 11:22 AM
I personally love Dannii. I find her the best judge, yeah she is an ice queen, but she speaks her mind when needed, not just for the sake of tv entertainmnet. She is the most honest of them all. And apparently Dannii has come top in mnay polls of people fave judge.
I like Cheryl, but her constant tears annoy me.
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 11:24 AM
I would say Simon is the most honest Judge, he really makes me laugh with some of the things he comes out with :bigsmile:
Simons honest most of the time.except for people who cant sing but have sob-stories like Alan Turner
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
I just read that on DS lol. But she was never there, she would always be away filimng somewhere, how is that someone else's fault?
Actually. She was filming AGT once, and was late as she was at Kylies ceremony thing. However, the editing made it look like she was away for loads of auditions.
Oh and " a source told the Sunday Mirror"
Louis was missing from some auditions as well, notice how they don't say anything and just cut the camera off at Cheryl to make it look like hes there? :thumbs:
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 11:32 AM
Louis was missing from some auditions as well, notice how they don't say anything and just cut the camera off at Cheryl to make it look like hes there? :thumbs: [/quote]
Lmao I never notice that, that's abit stupid really.
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Louis was missing from some auditions as well, notice how they don't say anything and just cut the camera off at Cheryl to make it look like hes there? :thumbs:
Lmao I never notice that, that's abit stupid really. [/quote]
Most of them ones were shown on Xtra Factor
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 11:36 AM
I don't watch that.
Originally posted by ukturtle
I personally love Dannii. I find her the best judge, yeah she is an ice queen, but she speaks her mind when needed, not just for the sake of tv entertainmnet. She is the most honest of them all. And apparently Dannii has come top in mnay polls of people fave judge.
I like Cheryl, but her constant tears annoy me.
Yeah, because crying at about 4 out of hundreds/thousands of auditions is that bad. :rolleyes:
She doesn't get air time because she doesn't have a personality and her face is expressionless due to botox.
jkp44
28-09-2008, 01:42 PM
Oh please some people need to come up with valid reasons "her face is expressionless due to botox" ur completely wrong. Why doesn't anybody say anything about simons botox it was all over the paper about him not having an expression cause he has just had more botox. The good thing is Dannii wont quit because you can see she loves the show too much to quit over something like she loves the show more than any of the other judges.PERIOD!!
Originally posted by jkp44
Oh please some people need to come up with valid reasons "her face is expressionless due to botox" ur completely wrong. Why doesn't anybody say anything about simons botox it was all over the paper about him not having an expression cause he has just had more botox. The good thing is Dannii wont quit because you can see she loves the show too much to quit over something like she loves the show more than any of the other judges.PERIOD!!
LOL! You can't be serious? It is a valid reason and you can see Simon's expressions perfectly well, it was a dig at Danni. And yeah...She loves the show more than every other judge that much, she's threatening to quit because she's not getting enough air time? Hmmm...Yeah, nothing says "I love this show, I'm so committed" like "Give me more airtime or I quit." Just let her go. Cheryl's only just started this series and she's made more of an impact than Danni has in her entire run on The X Factor.
The fact of the matter is that Danni doesn't matter as a judge. Sharon did, Simon does, Cheryl does and Louis does.
Locke.
28-09-2008, 01:55 PM
Oh well, she wont be missed by many.
Benjamin
28-09-2008, 01:57 PM
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by jkp44
Oh please some people need to come up with valid reasons "her face is expressionless due to botox" ur completely wrong. Why doesn't anybody say anything about simons botox it was all over the paper about him not having an expression cause he has just had more botox. The good thing is Dannii wont quit because you can see she loves the show too much to quit over something like she loves the show more than any of the other judges.PERIOD!!
LOL! You can't be serious? It is a valid reason and you can see Simon's expressions perfectly well, it was a dig at Danni. And yeah...She loves the show more than every other judge that much, she's threatening to quit because she's not getting enough air time? Hmmm...Yeah, nothing says "I love this show, I'm so committed" like "Give me more airtime or I quit." Just let her go. Cheryl's only just started this series and she's made more of an impact than Danni has in her entire run on The X Factor.
The fact of the matter is that Danni doesn't matter as a judge. Sharon did, Simon does, Cheryl does and Louis does.
Ok I see your opinion, but then how come Dannii seems to be the most popular judge? Most polls have her miles ahead of the other judges.
Originally posted by ukturtle
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by jkp44
Oh please some people need to come up with valid reasons "her face is expressionless due to botox" ur completely wrong. Why doesn't anybody say anything about simons botox it was all over the paper about him not having an expression cause he has just had more botox. The good thing is Dannii wont quit because you can see she loves the show too much to quit over something like she loves the show more than any of the other judges.PERIOD!!
LOL! You can't be serious? It is a valid reason and you can see Simon's expressions perfectly well, it was a dig at Danni. And yeah...She loves the show more than every other judge that much, she's threatening to quit because she's not getting enough air time? Hmmm...Yeah, nothing says "I love this show, I'm so committed" like "Give me more airtime or I quit." Just let her go. Cheryl's only just started this series and she's made more of an impact than Danni has in her entire run on The X Factor.
The fact of the matter is that Danni doesn't matter as a judge. Sharon did, Simon does, Cheryl does and Louis does.
Ok I see your opinion, but then how come Dannii seems to be the most popular judge? Most polls have her miles ahead of the other judges.
I can say with my hand on my heart, I honestly don't know. I don't see any reasons for her to be a favourite other than the fact she's such a crowd pleaser, she'll do anything to have them on her side. They didn't help her when she released albums as they always flopped, so maybe this is just her motive to get some sales?
Then again...Danni Minogue, not flopping and selling lots of records, getting number ones/top ten hits...?
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Matt08
28-09-2008, 02:01 PM
Good riddance.
Benjamin
28-09-2008, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by ukturtle
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by jkp44
Oh please some people need to come up with valid reasons "her face is expressionless due to botox" ur completely wrong. Why doesn't anybody say anything about simons botox it was all over the paper about him not having an expression cause he has just had more botox. The good thing is Dannii wont quit because you can see she loves the show too much to quit over something like she loves the show more than any of the other judges.PERIOD!!
LOL! You can't be serious? It is a valid reason and you can see Simon's expressions perfectly well, it was a dig at Danni. And yeah...She loves the show more than every other judge that much, she's threatening to quit because she's not getting enough air time? Hmmm...Yeah, nothing says "I love this show, I'm so committed" like "Give me more airtime or I quit." Just let her go. Cheryl's only just started this series and she's made more of an impact than Danni has in her entire run on The X Factor.
The fact of the matter is that Danni doesn't matter as a judge. Sharon did, Simon does, Cheryl does and Louis does.
Ok I see your opinion, but then how come Dannii seems to be the most popular judge? Most polls have her miles ahead of the other judges.
I can say with my hand on my heart, I honestly don't know. I don't see any reasons for her to be a favourite other than the fact she's such a crowd pleaser, she'll do anything to have them on her side. They didn't help her when she released albums as they always flopped, so maybe this is just her motive to get some sales?
Then again...Danni Minogue, not flopping and selling lots of records, getting number ones/top ten hits...?
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
I like Dannii Minougue. I think as a judge she is great at the job. Her music, well not that great, but as a judge, she is superb. Cheryl Cole annoys me a bit. She has only been in the music business for 5 years. Not enough time. Mel B should have ben picked over her (Mel B was in the biggest girl group ever, Girls Alous are not a patch on the Spice Girls)
jkp44
28-09-2008, 02:06 PM
How do you know that this is not just a rumour she might have said something about the amount of air time but she will not go to extreme length's like quitting thta is just the newspapers twisting her words, I dont understand why people can't be civalised about dannii I mean fine if you dont like that's ur problem but why do u have to bad mouth her. I dont really like cheryl as a judge but I dont start slagging her off, I only slag her off when people say she is more succesful than dannii when she is not!!!. TEAM MINOGUE!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by ukturtle
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by ukturtle
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by jkp44
Oh please some people need to come up with valid reasons "her face is expressionless due to botox" ur completely wrong. Why doesn't anybody say anything about simons botox it was all over the paper about him not having an expression cause he has just had more botox. The good thing is Dannii wont quit because you can see she loves the show too much to quit over something like she loves the show more than any of the other judges.PERIOD!!
LOL! You can't be serious? It is a valid reason and you can see Simon's expressions perfectly well, it was a dig at Danni. And yeah...She loves the show more than every other judge that much, she's threatening to quit because she's not getting enough air time? Hmmm...Yeah, nothing says "I love this show, I'm so committed" like "Give me more airtime or I quit." Just let her go. Cheryl's only just started this series and she's made more of an impact than Danni has in her entire run on The X Factor.
The fact of the matter is that Danni doesn't matter as a judge. Sharon did, Simon does, Cheryl does and Louis does.
Ok I see your opinion, but then how come Dannii seems to be the most popular judge? Most polls have her miles ahead of the other judges.
I can say with my hand on my heart, I honestly don't know. I don't see any reasons for her to be a favourite other than the fact she's such a crowd pleaser, she'll do anything to have them on her side. They didn't help her when she released albums as they always flopped, so maybe this is just her motive to get some sales?
Then again...Danni Minogue, not flopping and selling lots of records, getting number ones/top ten hits...?
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
I like Dannii Minougue. I think as a judge she is great at the job. Her music, well not that great, but as a judge, she is superb. Cheryl Cole annoys me a bit. She has only been in the music business for 5 years. Not enough time. Mel B should have ben picked over her (Mel B was in the biggest girl group ever, Girls Alous are not a patch on the Spice Girls)
I don't see how she's good at her job? From what we see, she barely has an input in anything. Cheryl jumps right in there and gives her opinion professionally, its like Danni just jumps in and agrees with near enough everything Cheryl says now because it's as if she knows Simon is approving of Cheryl's nature.
She's been in the music business for 6 years, actually. It's 2002-Present, and Popstars: The Rivals' auditions were around this time if not earlier, they were classified as a band mid-december, so yeah can be called 6 years. It's perfectly enough time, she's had achievements alone as well as with the band, why should she be ridiculed on something as silly as how much time she's spent in the business? Mel B was favourite pick, but she had other business ventures to attend to...And yeah, Spice Girls are the biggest girl group ever but in terms of UK, Girls Aloud have plenty on Spice Girls. They're the fresh spice girls of this era. Their sales, chart positions and music prove it.
Originally posted by jkp44
How do you know that this is not just a rumour she might have said something about the amount of air time but she will not go to extreme length's like quitting thta is just the newspapers twisting her words, I dont understand why people can't be civalised about dannii I mean fine if you dont like that's ur problem but why do u have to bad mouth her. I dont really like cheryl as a judge but I dont start slagging her off, I only slag her off when people say she is more succesful than dannii when she is not!!!. TEAM MINOGUE!!!!!!!!
It probably isn't her words being twisted. She's given interviews to magazines, word for word and has even declared things like this. I'm being as civilised to Danni as she has been to others in the past. There's plenty of reasons to slag Danni off and please don't get into the success argument - it's self-defeat.
Originally posted by King
I can say with my hand on my heart, I honestly don't know. I don't see any reasons for her to be a favourite other than the fact she's such a crowd pleaser, she'll do anything to have them on her side. They didn't help her when she released albums as they always flopped, so maybe this is just her motive to get some sales?
Then again...Danni Minogue, not flopping and selling lots of records, getting number ones/top ten hits...?
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Dannii has flopped has she?
- 13 number ones in the UK dance charts out of a possible 13
- 4 top 5 hits in the official charts
- A further 5 top 10 hits in the official charts
- A further 5 top 20 hits in the official charts
- Another 5 top 40 hits in the official charts
You might want to brush up on facts or make yourself look very foolish.
OK not the UK's biggest success but she is very popular around the world and has quite some following. Shes also done a lot of theatre work as well that the critics have loved.
jkp44
28-09-2008, 02:46 PM
Well said uve saved me proving it!!!
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by King
I can say with my hand on my heart, I honestly don't know. I don't see any reasons for her to be a favourite other than the fact she's such a crowd pleaser, she'll do anything to have them on her side. They didn't help her when she released albums as they always flopped, so maybe this is just her motive to get some sales?
Then again...Danni Minogue, not flopping and selling lots of records, getting number ones/top ten hits...?
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Dannii has flopped has she?
- 13 number ones in the UK dance charts out of a possible 13
- 4 top 5 hits in the official charts
- A further 5 top 10 hits in the official charts
- A further 5 top 20 hits in the official charts
- Another 5 top 40 hits in the official charts
You might want to brush up on facts or make yourself look very foolish.
OK not the UK's biggest success but she is very popular around the world and has quite some following. Shes also done a lot of theatre work as well that the critics have loved.
So right, let me understand...You're trying to justify her success then you go ahead to knock her down in the UK? Yeah, you're right she isn't the biggest success, she hasn't been for ages. Those numbers are small, too. The fact of the matter (again) is that yeah, she does flop.
Lets look at her album records, shall we?
1st Album peaked in her home country of Australia at 24.
2nd peaked in the UK at 8.
3rd peaked in Aus at 53, in UK at 52.
4th peaked in Aus at 69, in UK at 57.
5th peaked in Aus at 25, in UK at 8.
Wow...Look at that, not good. The only category she gets number 1's in is UK club. Not much when you're comparing it to the official top 40, is it? And the ones that you listed are bombed by the rest of her songs chart positions.
Looks like I've brushed up on my facts, doesn't it? I don't do foolish. :wink:
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 03:15 PM
Dannii is no Kyle, her sister is a million times better then her, and for me, seems a much nicer, down to earth person too.
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by King
I can say with my hand on my heart, I honestly don't know. I don't see any reasons for her to be a favourite other than the fact she's such a crowd pleaser, she'll do anything to have them on her side. They didn't help her when she released albums as they always flopped, so maybe this is just her motive to get some sales?
Then again...Danni Minogue, not flopping and selling lots of records, getting number ones/top ten hits...?
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Dannii has flopped has she?
- 13 number ones in the UK dance charts out of a possible 13
- 4 top 5 hits in the official charts
- A further 5 top 10 hits in the official charts
- A further 5 top 20 hits in the official charts
- Another 5 top 40 hits in the official charts
You might want to brush up on facts or make yourself look very foolish.
OK not the UK's biggest success but she is very popular around the world and has quite some following. Shes also done a lot of theatre work as well that the critics have loved.
So right, let me understand...You're trying to justify her success then you go ahead to knock her down in the UK? Yeah, you're right she isn't the biggest success, she hasn't been for ages. Those numbers are small, too. The fact of the matter (again) is that yeah, she does flop.
Lets look at her album records, shall we?
1st Album peaked in her home country of Australia at 24.
2nd peaked in the UK at 8.
3rd peaked in Aus at 53, in UK at 52.
4th peaked in Aus at 69, in UK at 57.
5th peaked in Aus at 25, in UK at 8.
Wow...Look at that, not good. The only category she gets number 1's in is UK club. Not much when you're comparing it to the official top 40, is it? And the ones that you listed are bombed by the rest of her songs chart positions.
Looks like I've brushed up on my facts, doesn't it? I don't do foolish. :wink:
Shes still popular in the UK dance charts though. Its like saying (even though I hate them) Bullet for My Valentine aren't successful because they rarely get songs inside the top 40, but clearly they're one of the biggest metal bands around atm.
Yes, she has had her flops but he majority of the singles have done moderately well, lets not forget she narrowly missed out on a number one in 2003 and it was the 66th biggest selling song of 2003. Not that impressive, but it did beat a load of other songs that managed to get to number 1.
Her hits outweigh her flops. If she had consistent flops she wouldn't be on X Factor or Australia's Got Talent. She isn't massive in the UK but she is around the world, and for other work shes done. Think about it.
I'm sick of all this dilly dallying about. For goodness sake Danni, if you want to quit, just do it. No need to make a song and dance about it.
(However, for what it's worth, I wold far rather see Cheryl Cole quit - she's useless).
Originally posted by Ruth
I'm sick of all this dilly dallying about. For goodness sake Danni, if you want to quit, just do it. No need to make a song and dance about it.
(However, for what it's worth, I wold far rather see Cheryl Cole quit - she's useless).
They want to take the show back to its roots and ditch the fourth category, ditch both Cheryl & Dannii and bring back Sharon if possible. They got the judges and the chemistry just right in series 3 which is really hard to achieve, then they went and screwed it all up the following year. I do like them both, don't get me wrong, but I think Louis/Simon/Sharon are the only three that can make the show work properly.
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by King
I can say with my hand on my heart, I honestly don't know. I don't see any reasons for her to be a favourite other than the fact she's such a crowd pleaser, she'll do anything to have them on her side. They didn't help her when she released albums as they always flopped, so maybe this is just her motive to get some sales?
Then again...Danni Minogue, not flopping and selling lots of records, getting number ones/top ten hits...?
:laugh2::laugh2::laugh2:
Dannii has flopped has she?
- 13 number ones in the UK dance charts out of a possible 13
- 4 top 5 hits in the official charts
- A further 5 top 10 hits in the official charts
- A further 5 top 20 hits in the official charts
- Another 5 top 40 hits in the official charts
You might want to brush up on facts or make yourself look very foolish.
OK not the UK's biggest success but she is very popular around the world and has quite some following. Shes also done a lot of theatre work as well that the critics have loved.
So right, let me understand...You're trying to justify her success then you go ahead to knock her down in the UK? Yeah, you're right she isn't the biggest success, she hasn't been for ages. Those numbers are small, too. The fact of the matter (again) is that yeah, she does flop.
Lets look at her album records, shall we?
1st Album peaked in her home country of Australia at 24.
2nd peaked in the UK at 8.
3rd peaked in Aus at 53, in UK at 52.
4th peaked in Aus at 69, in UK at 57.
5th peaked in Aus at 25, in UK at 8.
Wow...Look at that, not good. The only category she gets number 1's in is UK club. Not much when you're comparing it to the official top 40, is it? And the ones that you listed are bombed by the rest of her songs chart positions.
Looks like I've brushed up on my facts, doesn't it? I don't do foolish. :wink:
Shes still popular in the UK dance charts though. Its like saying (even though I hate them) Bullet for My Valentine aren't successful because they rarely get songs inside the top 40, but clearly they're one of the biggest metal bands around atm.
Yes, she has had her flops but he majority of the singles have done moderately well, lets not forget she narrowly missed out on a number one in 2003 and it was the 66th biggest selling song of 2003. Not that impressive, but it did beat a load of other songs that managed to get to number 1.
Her hits outweigh her flops. If she had consistent flops she wouldn't be on X Factor or Australia's Got Talent. She isn't massive in the UK but she is around the world, and for other work shes done. Think about it.
In the UK, the dance charts aren't exactly big news. Have you seen BFMV's record? Charts wise, anyway. They're not good. I wouldn't call them that, either.
Moderately well defeats the objection of calling her massive. Her albums flop drastically in her own home country for heavens sakes, that's an insult/failure in itself. She narrowly missed out on the number one but she didn't get it, and yeah...66th isn't something to boast about. I don't understand why you're using these facts or this information because it doesn't compliment her all that much?
She's on Australia's Got Talent because she is Kylie's sister. Her music obviously doesn't get great reception there so they have to settle for minor things. She's one of Australia's only good (so they'd call her) exports in regards to music. Danni's no Kylie, people need to come to that realisation and fast.
And people need to stop criticising Cheryl. She's new, she's fresh, she's successful, she's great looking and she's fantastic at her job. She's currently the face of the UK with her other bandmembers in terms of British girl groups. The show needs her, the show could do perfectly without Danni - she needs to be replaced with Sharon.
I don't need to stop criticising Cheryl Cole. She, along with the rest of her group, is just a puppet. Her success is all due to the people pulling her strings. And the fact that she is good looking is neither here nor there, when it comes to doing her job.
As for Dannii.....she has more about her than Cheryl - just my opinion. She was actually the first one of the sisters to achieve success in Australia, and Kylie followed suit. It's all pretty irrelevant now of course, as we are talking years down the line. But, personally, while Kylie seems a lovely girl and all that, I don't rate her much either, when it comes to talent. Dannii doesn't need to be Kylie. She doesn't try to be Kylie.
They're not puppets at all. Her and the girls exude talent, confidence and good will. Their success is because people actually like their music, buy their music, download their music and so forth. They came from a talent show; this of which the public were given the final decision on who went and stayed each week, then were given the decision to decide which girls would be placed in the band. How you can say their success is because of "people pulling strings" is beyond me and well, stupid.
Their fans aren't forced to like them and they're not forced to purchase their material, merchandise or attend their tours. Cheryl can't be blamed for being gorgeous, she's real - she isn't fake like the woman that sits next to her on the panel. She doesn't need cosmetic/plastic surgery, Danni does. Cheryl has talent, looks and the nations love on her side - "whatsername" doesn't.
Billy
28-09-2008, 04:30 PM
Originally posted by Ruth
I'm sick of all this dilly dallying about. For goodness sake Danni, if you want to quit, just do it. No need to make a song and dance about it.
(However, for what it's worth, I wold far rather see Cheryl Cole quit - she's useless).
It's not true. Dannii has confirmed that she hasn't mentioned anything about quitting.
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 04:33 PM
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by Ruth
I'm sick of all this dilly dallying about. For goodness sake Danni, if you want to quit, just do it. No need to make a song and dance about it.
(However, for what it's worth, I wold far rather see Cheryl Cole quit - she's useless).
It's not true. Dannii has confirmed that she hasn't mentioned anything about quitting.
Why do the papers keep lying? :rolleyes:
rayheartbliss
28-09-2008, 04:34 PM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by Ruth
I'm sick of all this dilly dallying about. For goodness sake Danni, if you want to quit, just do it. No need to make a song and dance about it.
(However, for what it's worth, I wold far rather see Cheryl Cole quit - she's useless).
It's not true. Dannii has confirmed that she hasn't mentioned anything about quitting.
Why do the papers keep lying? :rolleyes:
so they can have stories to put on their papers -.-
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 04:36 PM
true, but it's annoying.
jkp44
28-09-2008, 04:45 PM
Cheryl can't even sing she is useless at singing and the only thing she has got riding on her are her looks.
Originally posted by King
In the UK, the dance charts aren't exactly big news. Have you seen BFMV's record? Charts wise, anyway. They're not good. I wouldn't call them that, either.
Moderately well defeats the objection of calling her massive. Her albums flop drastically in her own home country for heavens sakes, that's an insult/failure in itself. She narrowly missed out on the number one but she didn't get it, and yeah...66th isn't something to boast about. I don't understand why you're using these facts or this information because it doesn't compliment her all that much?
She's on Australia's Got Talent because she is Kylie's sister. Her music obviously doesn't get great reception there so they have to settle for minor things. She's one of Australia's only good (so they'd call her) exports in regards to music. Danni's no Kylie, people need to come to that realisation and fast.
And people need to stop criticising Cheryl. She's new, she's fresh, she's successful, she's great looking and she's fantastic at her job. She's currently the face of the UK with her other bandmembers in terms of British girl groups. The show needs her, the show could do perfectly without Danni - she needs to be replaced with Sharon.
I used the fact of 66th to show that it outsold some songs that actually managed to get to number 1. Shes also on Australia's Got Talent because of her all round work in theatre and on TV, she isn't just a singer. Shes bigger than Kylie in Australia, and Kylie was actually famous for being Dannii's sister, not the other way around. I didn't call her massive in the UK either which she isn't, but she is around the world. You're just solely looking at her singing and not at the rest of her career.
Cheryl can't sing anyway (but I do like her), shes even admitted it herself. The show doesn't need anyone, as proven by Sharon quitting. Everyone thought it would be downhill from there but seemingly not.
Originally posted by jkp44
Cheryl can't even sing she is useless at singing and the only thing she has got riding on her are her looks.
LOL! Wow such a deluded comment. Cheryl's vocals live are better than Danni's in the studio.
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by King
In the UK, the dance charts aren't exactly big news. Have you seen BFMV's record? Charts wise, anyway. They're not good. I wouldn't call them that, either.
Moderately well defeats the objection of calling her massive. Her albums flop drastically in her own home country for heavens sakes, that's an insult/failure in itself. She narrowly missed out on the number one but she didn't get it, and yeah...66th isn't something to boast about. I don't understand why you're using these facts or this information because it doesn't compliment her all that much?
She's on Australia's Got Talent because she is Kylie's sister. Her music obviously doesn't get great reception there so they have to settle for minor things. She's one of Australia's only good (so they'd call her) exports in regards to music. Danni's no Kylie, people need to come to that realisation and fast.
And people need to stop criticising Cheryl. She's new, she's fresh, she's successful, she's great looking and she's fantastic at her job. She's currently the face of the UK with her other bandmembers in terms of British girl groups. The show needs her, the show could do perfectly without Danni - she needs to be replaced with Sharon.
I used the fact of 66th to show that it outsold some songs that actually managed to get to number 1. Shes also on Australia's Got Talent because of her all round work in theatre and on TV, she isn't just a singer. Shes bigger than Kylie in Australia, and Kylie was actually famous for being Dannii's sister, not the other way around. I didn't call her massive in the UK either which she isn't, but she is around the world. You're just solely looking at her singing and not at the rest of her career.
Cheryl can't sing anyway (but I do like her), shes even admitted it herself. The show doesn't need anyone, as proven by Sharon quitting. Everyone thought it would be downhill from there but seemingly not.
So? 66th really isn't anything to boast about. She's famous in the UK because of her sister, lets be honest here. I highly doubt she's bigger than Kylie in Australia seeing as Kylie is one of Australia's if not the best export. It's hard to believe, but maybe that's how it started - it's the other way around now. If you walked around the street and asked who's bigger between the both, the answer would be Kylie out of everybody's mouths.
Yes, she can sing. Don't start putting across that argument because she evidently can; in the studio and live. Thanks.
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 04:48 PM
Originally posted by jkp44
Cheryl can't even sing she is useless at singing and the only thing she has got riding on her are her looks.
Cheryl CAN sing, I know loads of people who have seen Girls Aloud live and said they were all great.
Originally posted by King
They're not puppets at all. Her and the girls exude talent, confidence and good will. Their success is because people actually like their music, buy their music, download their music and so forth. They came from a talent show; this of which the public were given the final decision on who went and stayed each week, then were given the decision to decide which girls would be placed in the band. How you can say their success is because of "people pulling strings" is beyond me and well, stupid.
Their fans aren't forced to like them and they're not forced to purchase their material, merchandise or attend their tours. Cheryl can't be blamed for being gorgeous, she's real - she isn't fake like the woman that sits next to her on the panel. She doesn't need cosmetic/plastic surgery, Danni does. Cheryl has talent, looks and the nations love on her side - "whatsername" doesn't.
First of all, I didn't call you stupid, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't call me stupid.
Secondly, the band do exude confidence. Nothing wrong with that. OF COURSE, people buy their music because they like it - where did I suggest otherwise. However, they are mediocre singers (not awful, a damn sight better than a lot of the wannabees we see on X Factor, but they aren't brilliant either), who produce music which was written for them, not by them. And I know you may be about to say that they have co-written songs....hmmmmm. I find it difficult to believe that when 5 girls are picked for their looks (coincidence that they are all good looking? I don't think so), that they all just happen to be able to write songs as well. Remember the Spice Girls got songwriting credits on Wannabee, when all they wrote was 'Zig a zig ah'.
If me saying 'people pulling strings' is beyond you - frankly that's not my problem.
Yes, they were picked by the public, but those shows manipulate the public! That is the most obvious thing in the world (read Chart Throb by Ben Elton - it's fiction, but a lot of it is steeped in fact). Like most manufactured bands - Boyzone, Westlife, Spice Girls, etc., the band are puppets. The real talent is the people who write the songs (dreadful as the songs are, people know what sells), produce and manage the groups. I'm not blaming Cheryl for that - it's just the way it is.
As for whether she has had plastic surgery - what's that got to do with it? Sharon Osbourne famously had lots of surgery; didn't stop her being a good judge. I actually thought that Cheryl had had some work done, but I admit I'm not sure about that, and in any case, it's got sod all to do with what I'm talking about.
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by Tom
I used the fact of 66th to show that it outsold some songs that actually managed to get to number 1. Shes also on Australia's Got Talent because of her all round work in theatre and on TV, she isn't just a singer. Shes bigger than Kylie in Australia, and Kylie was actually famous for being Dannii's sister, not the other way around. I didn't call her massive in the UK either which she isn't, but she is around the world. You're just solely looking at her singing and not at the rest of her career.
Cheryl can't sing anyway (but I do like her), shes even admitted it herself. The show doesn't need anyone, as proven by Sharon quitting. Everyone thought it would be downhill from there but seemingly not.
So? 66th really isn't anything to boast about. She's famous in the UK because of her sister, lets be honest here. I highly doubt she's bigger than Kylie in Australia seeing as Kylie is one of Australia's if not the best export. It's hard to believe, but maybe that's how it started - it's the other way around now. If you walked around the street and asked who's bigger between the both, the answer would be Kylie out of everybody's mouths.
Yes, she can sing. Don't start putting across that argument because she evidently can; in the studio and live. Thanks.
Dannii can also sing, in the studio and live. And she can do it a lot better than Kylie, its just that Kylie does more manufactured pop and stuff people prefer. Dannii can sing live better than Kylie.
Cheryl admitted herself she can't sing, I don't think it comes more from the horses mouth than that? I do like Cheryl though.
Originally posted by Ruth
Originally posted by King
They're not puppets at all. Her and the girls exude talent, confidence and good will. Their success is because people actually like their music, buy their music, download their music and so forth. They came from a talent show; this of which the public were given the final decision on who went and stayed each week, then were given the decision to decide which girls would be placed in the band. How you can say their success is because of "people pulling strings" is beyond me and well, stupid.
Their fans aren't forced to like them and they're not forced to purchase their material, merchandise or attend their tours. Cheryl can't be blamed for being gorgeous, she's real - she isn't fake like the woman that sits next to her on the panel. She doesn't need cosmetic/plastic surgery, Danni does. Cheryl has talent, looks and the nations love on her side - "whatsername" doesn't.
First of all, I didn't call you stupid, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't call me stupid.
Secondly, the band do exude confidence. Nothing wrong with that. OF COURSE, people buy their music because they like it - where did I suggest otherwise. However, they are mediocre singers (not awful, a damn sight better than a lot of the wannabees we see on X Factor, but they aren't brilliant either), who produce music which was written for them, not by them. And I know you may be about to say that they have co-written songs....hmmmmm. I find it difficult to believe that when 5 girls are picked for their looks (coincidence that they are all good looking? I don't think so), that they all just happen to be able to write songs as well. Remember the Spice Girls got songwriting credits on Wannabee, when all they wrote was 'Zig a zig ah'.
If me saying 'people pulling strings' is beyond you - frankly that's not my problem.
Yes, they were picked by the public, but those shows manipulate the public! That is the most obvious thing in the world (read Chart Throb by Ben Elton - it's fiction, but a lot of it is steeped in fact). Like most manufactured bands - Boyzone, Westlife, Spice Girls, etc., the band are puppets. The real talent is the people who write the songs (dreadful as the songs are, people know what sells), produce and manage the groups. I'm not blaming Cheryl for that - it's just the way it is.
As for whether she has had plastic surgery - what's that got to do with it? Sharon Osbourne famously had lots of surgery; didn't stop her being a good judge. I actually thought that Cheryl had had some work done, but I admit I'm not sure about that, and in any case, it's got sod all to do with what I'm talking about.
Cheryl has had work done, but on her teeth. Noones teeth are naturally that perfect. But appearance means nothing anyway, its completely irrelevant.
rayheartbliss
28-09-2008, 04:56 PM
Originally posted by jkp44
Cheryl can't even sing she is useless at singing and the only thing she has got riding on her are her looks.
of course she can singe...i mean c'mon she wouldnt be where she is now...
Originally posted by Ruth
First of all, I didn't call you stupid, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't call me stupid.
I wasn't calling you stupid, I called your comment stupid. Sorry if you feel as if it's a personal attack but it really wasn't.
Originally posted by RuthSecondly, the band do exude confidence. Nothing wrong with that. OF COURSE, people buy their music because they like it - where did I suggest otherwise. However, they are mediocre singers (not awful, a damn sight better than a lot of the wannabees we see on X Factor, but they aren't brilliant either), who produce music which was written for them, not by them. And I know you may be about to say that they have co-written songs....hmmmmm. I find it difficult to believe that when 5 girls are picked for their looks (coincidence that they are all good looking? I don't think so), that they all just happen to be able to write songs as well. Remember the Spice Girls got songwriting credits on Wannabee, when all they wrote was 'Zig a zig ah'.
They're everything a girl band should be. Yeah, they have the extra credible factor of all being gorgeous - most of the girls in Popstars were pretty so seemingly it is just coincidential. You're saying that they're as big/famous as they are due to people pulling strings. If you haven't seen their live performances from their tours then please don't call them mediocre singers, because they all have an individual style vocally and can belt out their notes cleanly and professionally, not forgetting impressively. I wasn't going to bring up that they'd co-written songs either and it's not that hard to believe that you're pretty much declaring that good looking girls can't write music, because thats how it's coming across.
The public didn't just choose them for their looks; they were chosen for their talent, the publics preferences. Besides, some members of the band hadn't even matured into their looks during the final stages of making the band.
Originally posted by RuthIf me saying 'people pulling strings' is beyond you - frankly that's not my problem.
Yes, they were picked by the public, but those shows manipulate the public! That is the most obvious thing in the world (read Chart Throb by Ben Elton - it's fiction, but a lot of it is steeped in fact). Like most manufactured bands - Boyzone, Westlife, Spice Girls, etc., the band are puppets. The real talent is the people who write the songs (dreadful as the songs are, people know what sells), produce and manage the groups. I'm not blaming Cheryl for that - it's just the way it is.
You're taking so much credit away from the public. Almost as if you're saying that the public don't have a conscience of their own? They choose what they like, they vote for what they like, it's simple. It's not that hard to understand. The individuals are famous, they make the songs they sing famous - not the songwriters, not the producers, but the singers themselves.
Originally posted by RuthAs for whether she has had plastic surgery - what's that got to do with it? Sharon Osbourne famously had lots of surgery; didn't stop her being a good judge. I actually thought that Cheryl had had some work done, but I admit I'm not sure about that, and in any case, it's got sod all to do with what I'm talking about.
Danni denies that she's had it, when it's proven that she actually has. And thats the difference, even if Sharon did have the surgery - she was a good judge. Danni isn't. Cheryl hasn't had work done, she's in her mid-20's and she looks perfectly fine.
Billy
28-09-2008, 05:06 PM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Originally posted by jkp44
Cheryl can't even sing she is useless at singing and the only thing she has got riding on her are her looks.
Cheryl CAN sing, I know loads of people who have seen Girls Aloud live and said they were all great.
She can? Youtube her PSTR performances :)
Billy
28-09-2008, 05:07 PM
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by Ruth
First of all, I didn't call you stupid, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't call me stupid.
I wasn't calling you stupid, I called your comment stupid. Sorry if you feel as if it's a personal attack but it really wasn't.
Originally posted by RuthSecondly, the band do exude confidence. Nothing wrong with that. OF COURSE, people buy their music because they like it - where did I suggest otherwise. However, they are mediocre singers (not awful, a damn sight better than a lot of the wannabees we see on X Factor, but they aren't brilliant either), who produce music which was written for them, not by them. And I know you may be about to say that they have co-written songs....hmmmmm. I find it difficult to believe that when 5 girls are picked for their looks (coincidence that they are all good looking? I don't think so), that they all just happen to be able to write songs as well. Remember the Spice Girls got songwriting credits on Wannabee, when all they wrote was 'Zig a zig ah'.
They're everything a girl band should be. Yeah, they have the extra credible factor of all being gorgeous - most of the girls in Popstars were pretty so seemingly it is just coincidential. You're saying that they're as big/famous as they are due to people pulling strings. If you haven't seen their live performances from their tours then please don't call them mediocre singers, because they all have an individual style vocally and can belt out their notes cleanly and professionally, not forgetting impressively. I wasn't going to bring up that they'd co-written songs either and it's not that hard to believe that you're pretty much declaring that good looking girls can't write music, because thats how it's coming across.
The public didn't just choose them for their looks; they were chosen for their talent, the publics preferences. Besides, some members of the band hadn't even matured into their looks during the final stages of making the band.
Originally posted by RuthIf me saying 'people pulling strings' is beyond you - frankly that's not my problem.
Yes, they were picked by the public, but those shows manipulate the public! That is the most obvious thing in the world (read Chart Throb by Ben Elton - it's fiction, but a lot of it is steeped in fact). Like most manufactured bands - Boyzone, Westlife, Spice Girls, etc., the band are puppets. The real talent is the people who write the songs (dreadful as the songs are, people know what sells), produce and manage the groups. I'm not blaming Cheryl for that - it's just the way it is.
You're taking so much credit away from the public. Almost as if you're saying that the public don't have a conscience of their own? They choose what they like, they vote for what they like, it's simple. It's not that hard to understand. The individuals are famous, they make the songs they sing famous - not the songwriters, not the producers, but the singers themselves.
Originally posted by RuthAs for whether she has had plastic surgery - what's that got to do with it? Sharon Osbourne famously had lots of surgery; didn't stop her being a good judge. I actually thought that Cheryl had had some work done, but I admit I'm not sure about that, and in any case, it's got sod all to do with what I'm talking about.
Danni denies that she's had it, when it's proven that she actually has. And thats the difference, even if Sharon did have the surgery - she was a good judge. Danni isn't. Cheryl hasn't had work done, she's in her mid-20's and she looks perfectly fine.
Dannii hasnt denied it? Sharon was a good judge? Clearly not or else she would have been a better success, no? Her comments stretched to "darling boy".
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by Tom
I used the fact of 66th to show that it outsold some songs that actually managed to get to number 1. Shes also on Australia's Got Talent because of her all round work in theatre and on TV, she isn't just a singer. Shes bigger than Kylie in Australia, and Kylie was actually famous for being Dannii's sister, not the other way around. I didn't call her massive in the UK either which she isn't, but she is around the world. You're just solely looking at her singing and not at the rest of her career.
Cheryl can't sing anyway (but I do like her), shes even admitted it herself. The show doesn't need anyone, as proven by Sharon quitting. Everyone thought it would be downhill from there but seemingly not.
So? 66th really isn't anything to boast about. She's famous in the UK because of her sister, lets be honest here. I highly doubt she's bigger than Kylie in Australia seeing as Kylie is one of Australia's if not the best export. It's hard to believe, but maybe that's how it started - it's the other way around now. If you walked around the street and asked who's bigger between the both, the answer would be Kylie out of everybody's mouths.
Yes, she can sing. Don't start putting across that argument because she evidently can; in the studio and live. Thanks.
Dannii can also sing, in the studio and live. And she can do it a lot better than Kylie, its just that Kylie does more manufactured pop and stuff people prefer. Dannii can sing live better than Kylie.
Cheryl admitted herself she can't sing, I don't think it comes more from the horses mouth than that? I do like Cheryl though.
Maybe Danni can sing better than Kylie live, but it hasn't gotten her as far as her sister has it? It's almost as if people blame Kylie for her sisters "demise" so to speak, it's ridiculous!
So because a singer say they can't sing, that means it's written in concrete and is regarded as factual? Right...
jkp44
28-09-2008, 05:23 PM
Omg look Cheryl is good enough to to sing in a girlband right but not solo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la-cQnBO3wc
Dannii is amazing at singing.
cheryl is flat and is out of tune alot.
Im not being rude or big headed or anything but I would just like to say un arrogantly that I have proffesional singing lessons and im on grade 5 and we learn about tuning and pitching so I do know if someone is out of tune and stuff and if someone is strong at singing which I know for sure Dannii is.
the only way cheryl can convince me is if she does a solo single that only concentrates on her voice for instance for the first time ever i saw ur face concentrates on the voice.
Please don't start having a go at me. plzzzzzz
rayheartbliss
28-09-2008, 05:25 PM
Originally posted by jkp44
Omg look Cheryl is good enough to to sing in a girlband right but not solo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la-cQnBO3wc
Dannii is amazing at singing.
cheryl is flat and is out of tune alot.
Im not being rude or big headed or anything but I would just like to say un arrogantly that I have proffesional singing lessons and Im on grade 5 and we learn about tuning and pitching so I do know if someone is out of tune and stuff and if someone is strong at singing which I know for sure Dannii is.
the only way cheryl can convince me is if she does a solo single that only concentrates on her voice for instance for the first time ever i saw ur face concentrates on the voice.
Please don't start having a go at me. plzzzzzz
why you little.... >.<
jokes
lol
she can sing..but her voice is fit for a band which she is in...so shes a singer....may not be a solo singer...but still a singer...
Originally posted by jkp44
Omg look Cheryl is good enough to to sing in a girlband right but not solo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la-cQnBO3wc
Dannii is amazing at singing.
cheryl is flat and is out of tune alot.
Im not being rude or big headed or anything but I would just like to say un arrogantly that I have proffesional singing lessons and Im on grade 5 and we learn about tuning and pitching so I do know if someone is out of tune and stuff and if someone is strong at singing which I know for sure Dannii is.
the only way cheryl can convince me is if she does a solo single that only concentrates on her voice for instance for the first time ever i saw ur face concentrates on the voice.
Please don't start having a go at me. plzzzzzz
LOL!
Wow. Cheryl isn't flat at all and her voice excells Danni's by far, get over it! Well you're not famous for your singing and being in an extremely successful band; they are, and I'm sure the tuning lessons they get are far more worthy than the ones you get. I'm not being rude, just realistic.
As I said - she sings alone alot on the tours, so maybe you should revise your argument further.
MarkWaldorf
28-09-2008, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by jkp44
Omg look Cheryl is good enough to to sing in a girlband right but not solo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la-cQnBO3wc
Dannii is amazing at singing.
cheryl is flat and is out of tune alot.
Im not being rude or big headed or anything but I would just like to say un arrogantly that I have proffesional singing lessons and Im on grade 5 and we learn about tuning and pitching so I do know if someone is out of tune and stuff and if someone is strong at singing which I know for sure Dannii is.
the only way cheryl can convince me is if she does a solo single that only concentrates on her voice for instance for the first time ever i saw ur face concentrates on the voice.
Please don't start having a go at me. plzzzzzz
Why don't you watch her Popstars performances?
MarkWaldorf
28-09-2008, 05:28 PM
Originally posted by jkp44
Omg look Cheryl is good enough to to sing in a girlband right but not solo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=la-cQnBO3wc
Dannii is amazing at singing.
cheryl is flat and is out of tune alot.
Im not being rude or big headed or anything but I would just like to say un arrogantly that I have proffesional singing lessons and Im on grade 5 and we learn about tuning and pitching so I do know if someone is out of tune and stuff and if someone is strong at singing which I know for sure Dannii is.
the only way cheryl can convince me is if she does a solo single that only concentrates on her voice for instance for the first time ever i saw ur face concentrates on the voice.
Please don't start having a go at me. plzzzzzz
Why don't you watch her Popstars performances?
jkp44
28-09-2008, 05:30 PM
kk just my opinion anyway read this:
http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,25197,24416449-12377,00.html
Xander
28-09-2008, 05:30 PM
Hmmm that comment about Kylie, Danni isn't that famous compared to her sister, Kylie has been way more successful than her sister and is more well known than her in Australia..
jkp44
28-09-2008, 05:35 PM
Can I just ask dont you think that my pic of dannii is HOT!!!!!
rayheartbliss
28-09-2008, 05:35 PM
Originally posted by jkp44
Can I just ask dont you think that my pic of dannii is HOT!!!!!
yes yes yes
jkp44
28-09-2008, 05:38 PM
I KNOW SHE LOOKS ABSOLUTLY STUNNING!!!!!! like a china doll. lol
jkp44
28-09-2008, 05:39 PM
she's got a really unique look.
I know: and that unique look is called COSMETIC/PLASTIC SURGERY.
Billy
28-09-2008, 05:49 PM
Originally posted by King
I know: and that unique look is called COSMETIC/PLASTIC SURGERY.
And we all know what Cheryls is. Anorexia.
jkp44
28-09-2008, 05:56 PM
Look king I don't want to argue so can u stop making littke digs. Plz
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by King
I know: and that unique look is called COSMETIC/PLASTIC SURGERY.
And we all know what Cheryls is. Anorexia.
Funny, anorexic people look gaunt, tired and pale. Does Cheryl have any of these symptoms? No? I thought not either.
jkp44
28-09-2008, 07:15 PM
what is your problem.
I don't have a problem, I'm merely having a debate over who's better that's all.
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by King
I know: and that unique look is called COSMETIC/PLASTIC SURGERY.
And we all know what Cheryls is. Anorexia.
That's a horrible thing to say, of course she isn't.
rayheartbliss
28-09-2008, 07:38 PM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by King
I know: and that unique look is called COSMETIC/PLASTIC SURGERY.
And we all know what Cheryls is. Anorexia.
That's a horrible thing to say, of course she isn't.
whats that?
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 07:40 PM
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by King
I know: and that unique look is called COSMETIC/PLASTIC SURGERY.
And we all know what Cheryls is. Anorexia.
That's a horrible thing to say, of course she isn't.
whats that?
Calling Cheryl Anorexia. When she clearly isn't.
Billy
28-09-2008, 07:41 PM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by King
I know: and that unique look is called COSMETIC/PLASTIC SURGERY.
And we all know what Cheryls is. Anorexia.
That's a horrible thing to say, of course she isn't.
whats that?
Calling Cheryl Anorexia. When she clearly isn't.
lmfao can you read? I didnt call Cheryl "anorexia" rofl
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Originally posted by Billy21
Originally posted by King
I know: and that unique look is called COSMETIC/PLASTIC SURGERY.
And we all know what Cheryls is. Anorexia.
That's a horrible thing to say, of course she isn't.
whats that?
Calling Cheryl Anorexia. When she clearly isn't.
lmfao can you read? I didnt call Cheryl "anorexia" rofl
She meant anorexic. Stop insinuating that she's dumb, will you?
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 07:43 PM
lmfao can you read? I didnt call Cheryl "anorexia" rofl [/quote]
So what does that mean then?
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 07:45 PM
Oh yeah I get it now, it was me reading it wrong, either way, that was still nasty to say she is anorexic Billy, plain nasty, Dannii is just as skinny as Cheryl, does that mean she is anorexic as well?
Billy
28-09-2008, 07:47 PM
Originally posted by XxShortyxX
Oh yeah I get it now, it was me reading it wrong, either way, that was still nasty to say she is anorexic Billy, plain nasty, Dannii is just as skinny as Cheryl, does that mean she is anorexic as well?
Dannii is nowhere near as skinny as Cheryl? If your gonna defend Cheryl at least speak sense.
XxShortyxX
28-09-2008, 07:49 PM
of course she is, they both are, both have great figures though.
rayheartbliss
28-09-2008, 07:50 PM
hey i think they av both nice bodies.....
jkp44
28-09-2008, 09:13 PM
I lurvee Dannii!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Team Minogue!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Originally posted by King
I don't have a problem, I'm merely having a debate over who's better that's all.
Its just pathetic really, both are as good as each other and both deserve their place on the panel. If Dannii was that bad then she wouldn't have won last year, she wouldn't have been praised for her mentoring and she wouldn't have topped most favourite judge polls.
I just find it really tedious when two sets of fans start arguing over whos best and just start making things up/things seem worse than they are like the anorexia comment, comments about Dannii's plastic surgery. Its just showing how noones arguments hold any weight because they have to resort to personal appearance, and I can't see anyone making them comments to be lookers themselves.
Cheryl is more successful than Dannii. Dannii also has success. Simple as really.
XxShortyxX
29-09-2008, 01:02 PM
Originally posted by rayheartbliss
hey i think they av both nice bodies.....
Defo, both gorgeous too. I just perfer Cheryl.
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by King
I don't have a problem, I'm merely having a debate over who's better that's all.
Its just pathetic really, both are as good as each other and both deserve their place on the panel. If Dannii was that bad then she wouldn't have won last year, she wouldn't have been praised for her mentoring and she wouldn't have topped most favourite judge polls.
I just find it really tedious when two sets of fans start arguing over whos best and just start making things up/things seem worse than they are like the anorexia comment, comments about Dannii's plastic surgery. Its just showing how noones arguments hold any weight because they have to resort to personal appearance, and I can't see anyone making them comments to be lookers themselves.
Cheryl is more successful than Dannii. Dannii also has success. Simple as really.
The Danni Minogue plastic surgery/botox stories aren't "made up" - they've been proven to be truthful. Most argumentative posts in here have held weight, not everyones replies but a lot have.
I agree with the conclusion you came to.
Cheryl > Danni. :devil:
Originally posted by King
Originally posted by Tom
Originally posted by King
I don't have a problem, I'm merely having a debate over who's better that's all.
Its just pathetic really, both are as good as each other and both deserve their place on the panel. If Dannii was that bad then she wouldn't have won last year, she wouldn't have been praised for her mentoring and she wouldn't have topped most favourite judge polls.
I just find it really tedious when two sets of fans start arguing over whos best and just start making things up/things seem worse than they are like the anorexia comment, comments about Dannii's plastic surgery. Its just showing how noones arguments hold any weight because they have to resort to personal appearance, and I can't see anyone making them comments to be lookers themselves.
Cheryl is more successful than Dannii. Dannii also has success. Simple as really.
The Danni Minogue plastic surgery/botox stories aren't "made up" - they've been proven to be truthful. Most argumentative posts in here have held weight, not everyones replies but a lot have.
I agree with the conclusion you came to.
Cheryl > Danni. :devil:
But is her appearance relevant? No.
jkp44
29-09-2008, 04:37 PM
Exactly!!!!
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