View Full Version : Has Lady Gaga taken it too far?
MarkWaldorf
20-04-2009, 08:03 AM
First off, I am a fan of Lady Gaga. I have been since April 08, way before her album was even released or touched the charts. It was amazing to see the success come her way because the music is awesome, but one of the things I always enjoyed about her was how unique she was. There wasn't anyone else like her, but now I'm finding it increasingly difficult to be a fan of hers because I feel like she's taking this image too far. Images like this:
http://i44.tinypic.com/2u8yoth.jpg
http://i39.tinypic.com/rtj4lf.jpg
Shock me. Please don't give me the "it's her unique style look" answer, because there's a huge difference between artistry and pretention and she really needs to learn that. Her interview/performance on Jonathan Ross really just sealed the deal for me as well. I now believe stunts like this are just her wanting more attention, when really its just driving more negative backlash her way. This is a reason I'm finding it difficult to be a fan of hers right now. I'll forever enjoy her music, but she as a person is changing and I don't like it.
Does anyone else have any opinions on this? I didn't post this in the Lady Gaga thread because I didn't want it to get unnoticed and I'm also interested in reading the opinions of members who aren't fans and wouldn't look in the thread anyway.
Lauren
20-04-2009, 08:24 AM
I don't really like her music, nor her - but - I don't really see an issue with the pictures. She's not really 'changing', she's been like this the whole time, she started in this industry when she was about 12 iirc.
Maybe I'm just less easy to shock, but to me those pictures look relatively normal in the world of celeb.
Captain.Remy
20-04-2009, 08:30 AM
Message original : Lauren
to me those pictures look relatively normal in the world of celeb.
Exactly. We've seen way worse like Britney's pussy, Christina's pussy, Paris' pussy and many other pussies (pussies are fine but in private, it makes them look like sluts) or deluded outfits that are way more disgraceful than what Lady Gaga is wearing. She is not a slut AT ALL, she owns fashion at the moment and knows how to be talked about.
For once a singer doesn't take themselves too seriously, we should enjoy it. (I'm waiting for her pussy tho lol)
Originally posted by Lauren
I don't really like her music, nor her - but - I don't really see an issue with the pictures. She's not really 'changing', she's been like this the whole time, she started in this industry when she was about 12 iirc.
Maybe I'm just less easy to shock, but to me those pictures look relatively normal in the world of celeb.
I'm not a fan of her music or the woman herself either, but I do take issue with her dressed like that under the banner of being original - there's being inventive, then there's plain mental. I'd imagine she's got a really huge ego at the moment, and nobody can blame her for that, but it shows (at least, that's how I view her, maybe she really just has no shame :laugh:.)
MarkWaldorf
20-04-2009, 09:39 AM
I was also meant to state that it isn't just these pictures. These were the only example I could get this morning.
I understand about the celebrity thing, but Lady Gaga's style has been criticised for a while now with the press complaining she wears little. I think we all know her style is very different to the average persons and that's why I think it's been taken a little too far (when its becoming as pretentious as it is now).
GhettoSuperstar
20-04-2009, 11:00 AM
No.
It's fun and funny.
And it gives the world something to talk about!
I think she has changed alot. In my opinion she used to wear the extreme outfits because she wanted to and she loved fashion. Now, like in the pictures Mark posted, I do think she's trying to exploit her image and it has gone to far.
Its, weird though, I have actually recently started to become a fan of hers all over again.
Xander
20-04-2009, 11:50 AM
Originally posted by GhettoSuperstar
No.
It's fun and funny.
And it gives the world something to talk about!
^ :bigsmile:.
Like I said in the other thread her interview with Jonathon Ross reminded me of this one on particular,although its 30 seconds long.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA4aBvnaTpo&feature=related
Basically I think shes too much sometimes to be like one of her idols. I can see exactly where your coming from though Mark. :)
I hated Lady GaGa... for like forever.
BUT, she was on Radio1 today with Jo Whiley... I still hate her. But I now admitt she is a very good singer. Her acoustic version of Poker Face was brilliant.
As for those pictures... I just say Ugh to them. LOL
I think shes going to join Amy Winehouse if she keeps this up shes going to loose loads of fans, i mean was she on crack for JR interview.
I don't think so.
I'm not just being biased but on the 'art scene' where she is from she is in some sort 'normal'.
SHE IS the new Grace Jones.
In the 70's everyone though Grace Jones had took it all to far with the things she wears & creates.. but she is a legend and an icon.. same as GaGa.
I love Gaga!!!
Originally posted by TheMichaelO
I'm not just being biased but on the 'art scene' where she is from she is in some sort 'normal'.
She said today on Radio1.
That where she is from she had to hide her true identity. She was forced to tone it down because of what people said about her.
I think she does it for the attention now. She is famous so it seems okay to dress like that. When it is clearly not. It was artisitic, it is now just boring and OTT.
MarkWaldorf
20-04-2009, 03:22 PM
Yeah, there's art and there's just being plain skanky. You don't need to be walking the streets in certain outfits.
I don't have an issue with her in general, I just refuse to believe her style is based on art because lets be honest, she wears so little its hard to see what its based on. One of the things she's constantly criticised about is what she wears or wears little of, and I think she's taken it further now because she knows it's getting her a lot of attention.
Originally posted by Jen
Originally posted by TheMichaelO
I'm not just being biased but on the 'art scene' where she is from she is in some sort 'normal'.
She said today on Radio1.
That where she is from she had to hide her true identity. She was forced to tone it down because of what people said about her.
I think she does it for the attention now. She is famous so it seems okay to dress like that. When it is clearly not. It was artisitic, it is now just boring and OTT. Sorry, I meant her in nightclubs and her friends.
But yeah, people who lived round her thought she was crazy.
In her song "No Floods" -
"All the people say, there she goes that crazy girl. She thinks she's something in this world?"
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Yeah, there's art and there's just being plain skanky. You don't need to be walking the streets in certain outfits.
I don't have an issue with her in general, I just refuse to believe her style is based on art because lets be honest, she wears so little its hard to see what its based on. One of the things she's constantly criticised about is what she wears or wears little of, and I think she's taken it further now because she knows it's getting her a lot of attention. Yeah. I agree with you, but I don't think in the form Gaga is doing it she is being skanky. I think she looks really fashionable and cool. She is just naturally like that.
Billy
20-04-2009, 03:25 PM
I think it was Jonathans fault if I'm honest, she clearly didnt understand the concept of the show (which is a pisstake basic) and her management should have told her, aswell as the fact Jonathan was taking the piss out of people she liked and then he brung up the man thing which would be pretty hurtful.
People who are saying she isn't unique, clearly she is or there wouldn't be such a fuss being made - Her music may not be unique (but even then I dunno who she is like), but she as a person is certainly unique - And I'm not even a fan.
Billy
20-04-2009, 03:27 PM
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Yeah, there's art and there's just being plain skanky. You don't need to be walking the streets in certain outfits.
I don't have an issue with her in general, I just refuse to believe her style is based on art because lets be honest, she wears so little its hard to see what its based on. One of the things she's constantly criticised about is what she wears or wears little of, and I think she's taken it further now because she knows it's getting her a lot of attention.
Her clothes are clearly based on art though you can tell from what she wears, like that post it note dress? It may be fugly but it's still artistic.
She isn't even taking anything futher she's been like this for a while, but as she appears on more tv shows and is seen more frequent it's appearing like it.
MarkWaldorf
20-04-2009, 03:28 PM
Originally posted by TheMichaelO
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Yeah, there's art and there's just being plain skanky. You don't need to be walking the streets in certain outfits.
I don't have an issue with her in general, I just refuse to believe her style is based on art because lets be honest, she wears so little its hard to see what its based on. One of the things she's constantly criticised about is what she wears or wears little of, and I think she's taken it further now because she knows it's getting her a lot of attention. Yeah. I agree with you, but I don't think in the form Gaga is doing it she is being skanky. I think she looks really fashionable and cool. She is just naturally like that.
Yeah I was hesitant about using the word 'skanky' because I don't think she is, just some of the outfits she wears could be considered skanky by some. (tape on the breast lmao)
MarkWaldorf
20-04-2009, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by Billy
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Yeah, there's art and there's just being plain skanky. You don't need to be walking the streets in certain outfits.
I don't have an issue with her in general, I just refuse to believe her style is based on art because lets be honest, she wears so little its hard to see what its based on. One of the things she's constantly criticised about is what she wears or wears little of, and I think she's taken it further now because she knows it's getting her a lot of attention.
Her clothes are clearly based on art though you can tell from what she wears, like that post it note dress? It may be fugly but it's still artistic.
She isn't even taking anything futher she's been like this for a while, but as she appears on more tv shows and is seen more frequent it's appearing like it.
Well, her performance outfits clearly are and I'm sure she said she's designs some of them herself. I'm really talking about her general style and the clothes she's spotted in on the streets. Fair enough if she wore them in a music video, but is it really right to be walking around outside in some of them? I just think she's taking a bit far because she knows it gets her noticed.
I think some people are quite shocked to see a young, blonde, 23 years old, pop singer to behaving in a 'rock n roll lifestyle' usually the expect them to be old rock bands.. or Lindsay Lohan.
Axiom
20-04-2009, 03:41 PM
I'm not complaining bout those pics:D
xDramatick
20-04-2009, 04:19 PM
I don't see anything wrong with that tbh.
Harry!
20-04-2009, 04:21 PM
Your not Madonna or Kyle so stop trying to be like it.
supernoodles!
20-04-2009, 04:25 PM
the thing is,she is totally ruining herself,I actually don`t mind her music but her attempt at 'fashion' just annoys me so much that I don`t like her
DamonJ
20-04-2009, 04:26 PM
GaGa is not an icon, nor a legend.
Shaun
20-04-2009, 04:28 PM
I've seen worse pictures, but the nipple tape is a bit much.
I think she is, at least to me, Damon.
DamonJ
20-04-2009, 04:30 PM
ah/
you're going to see Brit Brit the same date as me.
bronaaaa
20-04-2009, 04:32 PM
I never really liked her much, her music is good but.
She ruined Poker face on Friday with all the screams =| and she came across really stuck up. I've gone off her more recently, especially are Jonathan Ross
Sophii3x
20-04-2009, 04:32 PM
I don't have a problem with the outfits she wears, I think it's great that she's into her own style and is comfortable in herself to wear them. She obviously gains a lot of attention because of what she wears and she's said numrous times that she's always dressed like that which means that she hasn't changed in that aspect since she's become big.
She acted really strangely on Jonathan Ross though, she wasn't being cute at all.. just odd! GaGa <3
Annie
21-04-2009, 01:10 PM
I am also a fan of GaGa and I do like her sense of style, she knows that she is out there and she actually doesnt care what anyone thinks of her because she is happy being an artist so much that she just wants to go with the whole scene.
I dont think there was anything wrong with what she was wearing in the pics from the OP. No I wouldnt wear it and I would be shocked if anyone I knew wore it but its GaGa. And she has worn crazier things. The tape over the nipples might be a bit too far but I dont think its that shocking.
MarkWaldorf
07-07-2009, 12:40 PM
Yeah, I totally called it.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2rxtgfb.jpg
pinkmichk
07-07-2009, 01:03 PM
i dont think owt wrong with gaga flashing a bit of flesh i take more issue with madonna shoving her 50 yr camel toe in camera than a little bit of nipple or whatever from gaga
Princess
07-07-2009, 03:25 PM
In London she was wearing this really tight leotard and her ass was like hanging out. She was playing the piano perched on the seat and everyone could see her ass and then she was like 'Oh I didn't realise that camera was right on my behind,oops'. Urgh.
Her music is good,but I have never really liked her as a person,even more so after the whole Take That debacle(i hope thats the right word,lol).
I find it difficult to like an artist's music if I don't like them as a person as well.
Harry!
07-07-2009, 03:29 PM
Originally posted by pinkmichk
i dont think owt wrong with gaga flashing a bit of flesh i take more issue with madonna shoving her 50 yr camel toe in camera than a little bit of nipple or whatever from gaga
Madonna is still looking great at 50, Leave her alone :spin:. Gaga just wants to be a idol like her which is good I guess.
pinkmichk
07-07-2009, 03:31 PM
Originally posted by Princess
In London she was wearing this really tight leotard and her ass was like hanging out. She was playing the piano perched on the seat and everyone could see her ass
see i have no issue over a bit of bum and personally would rather see that and/or boobs than madonna who flashes bits that only her partner and doctor should ever have to see:yuk:
Lauren
07-07-2009, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Yeah, I totally called it.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2rxtgfb.jpg
Bahaha. I was looking at that picture like "called wha- NIPPLES?!"
pinkmichk
07-07-2009, 03:32 PM
Originally posted by Harry.
Originally posted by pinkmichk
i dont think owt wrong with gaga flashing a bit of flesh i take more issue with madonna shoving her 50 yr camel toe in camera than a little bit of nipple or whatever from gaga
Madonna is still looking great at 50, Leave her alone :spin:. Gaga just wants to be a idol like her which is good I guess.
if you say so amazing what botax and stuff can do for people she is same age as my mum and i wouldnt want my mum flashing her bits for all to see it has got tiresome now there is no need for her to do it like i say only partners and doctors should ever see what madge flashes
Harry!
07-07-2009, 03:35 PM
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Harry.
Originally posted by pinkmichk
i dont think owt wrong with gaga flashing a bit of flesh i take more issue with madonna shoving her 50 yr camel toe in camera than a little bit of nipple or whatever from gaga
Madonna is still looking great at 50, Leave her alone :spin:. Gaga just wants to be a idol like her which is good I guess.
if you say so amazing what botax and stuff can do for people she is same age as my mum and i wouldnt want my mum flashing her bits for all to see it has got tiresome now there is no need for her to do it like i say only partners and doctors should ever see what madge flashes
Still she still looks stunning for her age. She will still please people whatever she does, Even if it is nude.
pinkmichk
07-07-2009, 03:36 PM
Originally posted by Harry.
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Harry.
Originally posted by pinkmichk
i dont think owt wrong with gaga flashing a bit of flesh i take more issue with madonna shoving her 50 yr camel toe in camera than a little bit of nipple or whatever from gaga
Madonna is still looking great at 50, Leave her alone :spin:. Gaga just wants to be a idol like her which is good I guess.
if you say so amazing what botax and stuff can do for people she is same age as my mum and i wouldnt want my mum flashing her bits for all to see it has got tiresome now there is no need for her to do it like i say only partners and doctors should ever see what madge flashes
Still she still looks stunning for her age. She will still please people whatever she does, Even if it is nude.
i dont think she does and i know i'm not the only one who thinks that on here
I don't see it being very bad? :puzzled: she has a lovely ass
pinkmichk
07-07-2009, 03:55 PM
Originally posted by Marcjswp
I don't see it being very bad? :puzzled: she has a lovely ass
agreed
Patrick
07-07-2009, 03:58 PM
And now she posed Toppless to.
I just hope she dosent end up like Britney, I really like Lady Gaga.
She looks diffrent in her Music Videos as to what she looks like in Public for some reason...
MarkWaldorf
07-07-2009, 08:22 PM
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Yeah, I totally called it.
http://i41.tinypic.com/2rxtgfb.jpg
Firewire
07-07-2009, 08:23 PM
Originally posted by pmccaff2009
And now she posed Toppless to.
I just hope she dosent end up like Britney, I really like Lady Gaga.
She looks diffrent in her Music Videos as to what she looks like in Public for some reason...
What do you mean "End up like Britney?"
MarkWaldorf
07-07-2009, 08:24 PM
Originally posted by pmccaff2009
And now she posed Toppless to.
I just hope she dosent end up like Britney, I really like Lady Gaga.
She looks diffrent in her Music Videos as to what she looks like in Public for some reason...
I don't ever recall Britney on stage with her tits out?
DamonJ
07-07-2009, 08:26 PM
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Originally posted by pmccaff2009
And now she posed Toppless to.
I just hope she dosent end up like Britney, I really like Lady Gaga.
She looks diffrent in her Music Videos as to what she looks like in Public for some reason...
I don't ever recall Britney on stage with her tits out?
Lewis.
07-07-2009, 08:28 PM
It Gets people looking at her, talking about her, gives her more of a talk factor. If she didn't dress like that, she would be like Duffy, in the spotlight for a minute, and then stepping out for the rest of the time. Gaga is constantly in the spotlight because of her wacky personality, aswell of her music
Ninastar
07-07-2009, 08:49 PM
So true lewis!!!!!!!!!!!
+k! x
Ninastar
07-07-2009, 08:50 PM
and omfg. Imagine trying to take the tape off. OWWW. my eyes are watering thinking about it!!!
Princess
09-07-2009, 12:09 AM
There was another bit of the set,both nights where she got a drumstick,shoved it between her legs :| and then threw it into the crowd,grossness.
Lauren
09-07-2009, 12:10 AM
Originally posted by Princess
There was another bit of the set,both nights where she got a drumstick,shoved it between her legs :| and then threw it into the crowd,grossness.
What did she... like... actually... ? In... ?
Princess
09-07-2009, 12:15 AM
Pretty much!!!!
tentpeg
09-07-2009, 12:43 AM
I have to say, as a fan of Grace Jones for many years (and I hear the Lady is a huge fan too), that outrageous, when done brilliantly, is what makes someone unique and interesting. Everyone makes the odd faux pas, but usually learn from it. I'm sure in 20 years she'll be trying different things and being brilliant at it. Enjoy her coz she is pretty cool. It was quite funny live at Glastonbury because I kept thinking she was going to have real arm issues with that silver triangle!
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