View Full Version : Is BB on its way to cancellation due to the poor ratings
President
05-06-2009, 12:39 PM
Last night's rating was only 5.1 million, the least watched live launch ever.
BBC News nearly beat the launch by getting 5 million viewers.
It's going to all be downhill from now on.
Surely, this is a disasterous rating? Absolutely terrible.
Is it likely that Channel 4 now will not renew the contract and end with BB11, or even try and force Endemol to end it after BB10 by paying compensation.
No it's not because it didn't get poor ratings 5m is still good for BB considering it's been going for 10 years,and as long as the HL shows stay above 3m we should be fine.
MarkWaldorf
05-06-2009, 12:40 PM
That's fantastic for Channel 4.
arsenalforever
05-06-2009, 12:41 PM
Originally posted by President
Last night's rating was only 5.1 million, the least watched live launch ever.
BBC News nearly beat the launch by getting 5 million viewers.
It's going to all be downhill from now on.
Surely, this is a disasterous rating? Absolutely terrible.
Is it likely that Channel 4 now will not renew the contract and end with BB11, or even try and force Endemol to end it after BB10 by paying compensation.
You got to remember Channel 4 biggest money earner is BB
No i think they'll keep it but if the ratings get realy bad they'll just shift it on to E4
President
05-06-2009, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
That's fantastic for Channel 4.
Not really.
The other weeks Grand Design and Night at the Museum both got over 4 million.
The gap in difference is small now between BB and the other shows.
President
05-06-2009, 12:43 PM
Originally posted by PJ
No it's not because it didn't get poor ratings 5m is still good for BB considering it's been going for 10 years,and as long as the HL shows stay above 3m we should be fine.
X Factor has effectively been going for the same time under the Pop Stars and Pop Idol formats.
They are getting highest ratings ever.
hannah.
05-06-2009, 12:43 PM
A big Big Brother man said earlier in the week that it'll keep going as long as it's over 4m didn't he?
Everyone's always saying this but we'll just have to wait and see if they mention auditions later on in the year won't we?
and if they do IM GOING hahaha
Originally posted by hannah.
A big Big Brother man said earlier in the week that it'll keep going as long as it's over 4m didn't he?
Everyone's always saying this but we'll just have to wait and see if they mention auditions later on in the year won't we?
and if they do IM GOING hahaha
It was above 3m-sorry for being so precise.
MarkWaldorf
05-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
That's fantastic for Channel 4.
Not really.
The other weeks Grand Design and Night at the Museum both got over 4 million.
The gap in difference is small now between BB and the other shows.
Erm, yes it is. The slot average this year for that timeslot has been well under 2 million, which means the launch truly outperformed any other show that has been aired at that time on Channel 4 this year - and maybe overall.
It also won its timeslot between each of the networks, so it did well. Just because it didn't get 7 million doesn't mean it still can't be seen as a success.
arsenalforever
05-06-2009, 12:45 PM
Originally posted by hannah.
A big Big Brother man said earlier in the week that it'll keep going as long as it's over 4m didn't he?
Everyone's always saying this but we'll just have to wait and see if they mention auditions later on in the year won't we?
and if they do IM GOING hahaha
I hope they keep it going even if its on E4
Cody™
05-06-2009, 12:45 PM
5m is a good rating for any show. And its channel 4's best rated show.
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by PJ
No it's not because it didn't get poor ratings 5m is still good for BB considering it's been going for 10 years,and as long as the HL shows stay above 3m we should be fine.
X Factor has effectively been going for the same time under the Pop Stars and Pop Idol formats.
They are getting highest ratings ever.
X factor is still fresh though.
*mazedsalv**
05-06-2009, 12:46 PM
The launch ratings were really good really.
It got 5.1m!!
2008 slot average: 2.2m (10.5%)
- 2009 slot average: 1.8m (8.1%)
The launch was 3.3m more than this years slot average.
jackierprincess
05-06-2009, 12:46 PM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by President
Last night's rating was only 5.1 million, the least watched live launch ever.
BBC News nearly beat the launch by getting 5 million viewers.
It's going to all be downhill from now on.
Surely, this is a disasterous rating? Absolutely terrible.
Is it likely that Channel 4 now will not renew the contract and end with BB11, or even try and force Endemol to end it after BB10 by paying compensation.
You got to remember Channel 4 biggest money earner is BB
No i think they'll keep it but if the ratings get realy bad they'll just shift it on to E4
I dont think it got as uch advertising this year,they certainly arent doing themselves any favours by not having the live feed, but like said as long as they dont get too low they'll keep going they cant take it off anyway contracts have been signed
hannah.
05-06-2009, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by PJ
Originally posted by hannah.
A big Big Brother man said earlier in the week that it'll keep going as long as it's over 4m didn't he?
Everyone's always saying this but we'll just have to wait and see if they mention auditions later on in the year won't we?
and if they do IM GOING hahaha
It was above 3m-sorry for being so precise.
I thought it might've been but I decided to go with the higher one so people couldn't go IT WAS 4M ACTUALLY SO IT MIGHT BE :)
I was gonna research it but I'm going out in a minute ha
my point still stands though, even more so in fact
President
05-06-2009, 12:48 PM
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by MarkWaldorf
That's fantastic for Channel 4.
Not really.
The other weeks Grand Design and Night at the Museum both got over 4 million.
The gap in difference is small now between BB and the other shows.
Erm, yes it is. The slot average this year for that timeslot has been well under 2 million, which means the launch truly outperformed any other show that has been aired at that time on Channel 4 this year - and maybe overall.
It also won its timeslot between each of the networks, so it did well. Just because it didn't get 7 million doesn't mean it still can't be seen as a success.
Channel 4 paid for the contract based on the fact that BB was getting close to 5 million viewers daily.
Now it ccan barely get 5 million for launch. They must be disappointed by the decline in ratings, hence why so many people at C4 have said it will end: Angela Jain, George Lamb, etc.
Yes, it's well above the slot average. But it always has been, and usually by a bigger distance.
And also it didn't win its slot. BBC News got 5.0 million, BB got 4.9 million on Channel 4. Fact./
The British government is collapsing before our very eyes. Of course people are going to watch the news more for christ sake. It is election weekend. Five million launch or six million launch, it still won it's slot. And yes, other shows come close to Big Brother's average rating on Channel 4, but are they on every night of the week? Are they half as effortless to produce? Does Come Dine With Me grab the upmarket teenage audience Channel 4 needs for advertising revenue? I doubt it, somehow.
As for Channel 4's contract with Big Brother, they must have known ratings would drop sooner or later. Nothing is stopping them from renewing the contract but for a smaller sum of money. Big Brother is still a monster of a television brand. It's not just one show either. Two additional shows directly attatched to the format do well for E4.
This thread fails.
I've been a BB fan since BB1 and had to ask a friend a couple of weeks ago, when the launch would be as I'd not seen any adds for it on TV
President
05-06-2009, 12:56 PM
Originally posted by Stu
The British government is collapsing before our very eyes. Of course people are going to watch the news more for christ sake. It is election weekend. Five million launch or six million launch, it still won it's slot. And yes, other shows come close to Big Brother's average rating on Channel 4, but are they on every night of the week?
As for Channel 4's contract with Big Brother, they must have known ratings would drop sooner or later. Nothing is stopping them from renewing the contract but for a smaller sum of money. Big Brother is still a monster of a television brand. It's not just one show either. Two additional shows directly attatched to the format do well for E4.
This thread fails.
Hehe. I am being Devil's advocate. I know the ratings are quite good, but just people's opinons. :blush2:
hullbb
05-06-2009, 12:58 PM
i think they have scipted it this year to try to win back viewers, thats why theres no live feed through the day
Originally posted by hullbb
i think they have scipted it this year to try to win back viewers, thats why theres no live feed through the day
Oh for the love of god...
bigfan
05-06-2009, 01:04 PM
Originally posted by arsenalforever
Originally posted by President
Last night's rating was only 5.1 million, the least watched live launch ever.
BBC News nearly beat the launch by getting 5 million viewers.
It's going to all be downhill from now on.
Surely, this is a disasterous rating? Absolutely terrible.
Is it likely that Channel 4 now will not renew the contract and end with BB11, or even try and force Endemol to end it after BB10 by paying compensation.
You got to remember Channel 4 biggest money earner is BB
No i think they'll keep it but if the ratings get realy bad they'll just shift it on to E4
You also have to remember how they have cut back on BB this year. Last night was a bad night for TV but tonight we have the apprentice and again on Sunday, if they pull in 3 million against those programmes I will be surprised.:sad:
Patrick
05-06-2009, 01:24 PM
Thats amazing for a show that hasnt been advertised at all outside C4 And was so unpopular all year round
MrMisterEli
05-06-2009, 02:12 PM
Originally posted by President
Originally posted by PJ
No it's not because it didn't get poor ratings 5m is still good for BB considering it's been going for 10 years,and as long as the HL shows stay above 3m we should be fine.
X Factor has effectively been going for the same time under the Pop Stars and Pop Idol formats.
They are getting highest ratings ever.
They're different shows.
It's like saying Big Brother is the same show as Survivor and Shipwrecked, among others.
The ratings are fine. Channel 4 needn't be worried.
bluehill
05-06-2009, 02:21 PM
5.1 million is preety good. for c4
bigfan
05-06-2009, 02:22 PM
Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Thats amazing for a show that hasnt been advertised at all outside C4 And was so unpopular all year round
ha ha Of cause it wasnt advertised, they wanted to make a sure a majority of viewers didnt know they had axed the live feed until after the launch.:shocked:
Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Thats amazing for a show that hasnt been advertised at all outside C4 And was so unpopular all year round
ha ha Of cause it wasnt advertised, they wanted to make a sure a majority of viewers didnt know they had axed the live feed until after the launch.:shocked:
Are you really a big enough ****** to believe that?
i think the main reason it wasn't advertised was money
the credit crunch hit's us all you know :nono:
bananarama
05-06-2009, 02:33 PM
Originally posted by President
Last night's rating was only 5.1 million, the least watched live launch ever.
BBC News nearly beat the launch by getting 5 million viewers.
It's going to all be downhill from now on.
Surely, this is a disasterous rating? Absolutely terrible.
Is it likely that Channel 4 now will not renew the contract and end with BB11, or even try and force Endemol to end it after BB10 by paying compensation.
Judging by last nights selection of housemates and so called twist I think all sensible people should be wishing that CH 4 do the right thing and kill off the series now not waiting for BB11.
BBBM was a disgrace and a complete load of vulgarity rubbish suitable only for those of a mentality of a moron.......Could not stand watching it and switched off well before the end of BBBM........Almost did the same thing with regard to the so called launch night.......
I will give tonights highlights a look at but have a feeling I will switch that off too........
It's not the housemates that are not real housemates it's the producers that are not really sane......
RCW1945
05-06-2009, 02:39 PM
"the upmarket teenage audience Channel 4 needs for advertising revenue?"
What?????
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by President
Last night's rating was only 5.1 million, the least watched live launch ever.
BBC News nearly beat the launch by getting 5 million viewers.
It's going to all be downhill from now on.
Surely, this is a disasterous rating? Absolutely terrible.
Is it likely that Channel 4 now will not renew the contract and end with BB11, or even try and force Endemol to end it after BB10 by paying compensation.
Judging by last nights selection of housemates and so called twist I think all sensible people should be wishing that CH 4 do the right thing and kill off the series now not waiting for BB11.
BBBM was a disgrace and a complete load of vulgarity rubbish suitable only for those of a mentality of a moron.......Could not stand watching it and switched off well before the end of BBBM........Almost did the same thing with regard to the so called launch night.......
I will give tonights highlights a look at but have a feeling I will switch that off too........
It's not the housemates that are not real housemates it's the producers that are not really sane......
Television just aint right for some people, is it?
bigfan
05-06-2009, 02:43 PM
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Thats amazing for a show that hasnt been advertised at all outside C4 And was so unpopular all year round
ha ha Of cause it wasnt advertised, they wanted to make a sure a majority of viewers didnt know they had axed the live feed until after the launch.:shocked:
Are you really a big enough ****** to believe that?
I'm getting pi$$ed off with your insults, have a look round other fan sites and see how many people are asking 'why no live feed' :mad::mad:
bananarama
05-06-2009, 02:51 PM
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by President
Last night's rating was only 5.1 million, the least watched live launch ever.
BBC News nearly beat the launch by getting 5 million viewers.
It's going to all be downhill from now on.
Surely, this is a disasterous rating? Absolutely terrible.
Is it likely that Channel 4 now will not renew the contract and end with BB11, or even try and force Endemol to end it after BB10 by paying compensation.
Judging by last nights selection of housemates and so called twist I think all sensible people should be wishing that CH 4 do the right thing and kill off the series now not waiting for BB11.
BBBM was a disgrace and a complete load of vulgarity rubbish suitable only for those of a mentality of a moron.......Could not stand watching it and switched off well before the end of BBBM........Almost did the same thing with regard to the so called launch night.......
I will give tonights highlights a look at but have a feeling I will switch that off too........
It's not the housemates that are not real housemates it's the producers that are not really sane......
Television just aint right for some people, is it?
Televisions are fine it's the stuff they put on is the problem. You can't even put ornaments on these slim line TV's. :bigsmile:
Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Thats amazing for a show that hasnt been advertised at all outside C4 And was so unpopular all year round
ha ha Of cause it wasnt advertised, they wanted to make a sure a majority of viewers didnt know they had axed the live feed until after the launch.:shocked:
Are you really a big enough ****** to believe that?
I'm getting pi$$ed off with your insults, have a look round other fan sites and see how many people are asking 'why no live feed' :mad::mad:
Who said that was my issue? My issue was your, quiet frank, utterly ballsed up, retarded understanding of the situation.
Major television networks do not hold back an entire advertising campaign as a conspiracy to prevent a fraction of their audience, most of whom already know, from finding out that the live feed is not back 24/7, you moron.
It will never be cancelled I dunno about everyone else but BB was the main center of conversation in college today. The eyebrow twist really got people talking, nice fun task for the audience...
Originally posted by Fom
It will never be cancelled I dunno about everyone else but BB was the main center of conversation in college today. The eyebrow twist really got people talking, nice fun task for the audience...
Same here. I was surprised at the amount of texts I got saying 'you watchin BB?' last night. Again, that does not happen with Come Dine With Me.
bigfan
05-06-2009, 02:58 PM
Originally posted by Stu
Who said that was my issue? My issue was your, quiet frank, utterly ballsed up, retarded understanding of the situation.
Major television networks do not hold back an entire advertising campaign as a conspiracy to prevent a fraction of their audience, most of whom already know, from finding out that the live feed is not back 24/7, you moron.
Stu Stu Stu you silly little person you havn't got a clue how these things work. Leave it for a few weeks and we will see whos the moron:xyxwave:
Spike
05-06-2009, 03:02 PM
Anything over 5million was a success for last night imo
Its a good rating with a good rating in the demographic with a good balance of housemates which may turn BB's fortunes around
bettiepage
05-06-2009, 03:04 PM
I was expecting a lot less than that.
Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by Stu
Who said that was my issue? My issue was your, quiet frank, utterly ballsed up, retarded understanding of the situation.
Major television networks do not hold back an entire advertising campaign as a conspiracy to prevent a fraction of their audience, most of whom already know, from finding out that the live feed is not back 24/7, you moron.
Stu Stu Stu you silly little person you havn't got a clue how these things work. Leave it for a few weeks and we will see whos the moron:xyxwave:
So your saying Channel 4, with intention, decided to advertise Big Brother like **** so the sixth of the audience who did watch live feed on a regular basis and who already knew of it's cancellation would be kept in the dark? And this makes ANY sort of business sense HOW?
Right. Just so I know we are on the same page. Nice argument, by the way. The men in white coats should be coming soon enough.
Jayson
05-06-2009, 03:28 PM
why on earth would they cancel theyre best show?, theres so much **** on C4 these days, why not just cancel that and let BB take its place?
President
06-06-2009, 10:37 AM
2.7 million last night. That is really bad!
Damaris
06-06-2009, 10:38 AM
2.7!!! Oh god.
JOSHUAH!
06-06-2009, 10:42 AM
I'm sick of everybody saying its going to be cancelled.
They won't cancel it half way through a series, and BB11 is CONFIRMED.
Also, the ratings aren't that bad - the launch show BEAT every other terrestrial channel, which isn't the norm for Channel 4 - they usually come third or fourth in the ratings list.
marctierman
06-06-2009, 10:44 AM
Originally posted by JOSHUAH!
I'm sick of everybody saying its going to be cancelled.
They won't cancel it half way through a series, and BB11 is CONFIRMED.
Also, the ratings aren't that bad - the launch show BEAT every other terrestrial channel, which isn't the norm for Channel 4 - they usually come third or fourth in the ratings list.
Totally with you there.
Just stop fretting. Just watch it enjoy it and have a positive mental attitude :)
Spike
06-06-2009, 10:45 AM
Simple answer. NO
I can't be bothered to state the reason because its obvious why
arista
06-06-2009, 10:48 AM
Originally posted by President
Last night's rating was only 5.1 million, the least watched live launch ever.
BBC News nearly beat the launch by getting 5 million viewers.
It's going to all be downhill from now on.
Surely, this is a disasterous rating? Absolutely terrible.
Is it likely that Channel 4 now will not renew the contract and end with BB11, or even try and force Endemol to end it after BB10 by paying compensation.
Yes Ch4 needs to let Endemol move Channel.
Tom4784
06-06-2009, 10:54 AM
As long as it stays around 2 Million - 3 million viewers for highlights it won't be cancelled. It can't be cancelled until after next year's has finished anyway.
Miss-red
06-06-2009, 11:04 AM
it'll not be cancelled the ratings would have to drop dramatically for that to be even considered plus we've 14 weeks ahead of us the ratings could fly up over that time xx
aliacid
06-06-2009, 02:17 PM
I remember reading before BB10 started that we are guaranteed BB11, can somebody confirm this for me please ?
Stentionhouse
06-06-2009, 02:30 PM
Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by bigfan
Originally posted by pmccaff2009
Thats amazing for a show that hasnt been advertised at all outside C4 And was so unpopular all year round
ha ha Of cause it wasnt advertised, they wanted to make a sure a majority of viewers didnt know they had axed the live feed until after the launch.:shocked:
Are you really a big enough ****** to believe that?
I'm getting pi$$ed off with your insults, have a look round other fan sites and see how many people are asking 'why no live feed' :mad::mad:
Take no notice - they let special needs people have access to computers these days :wink:
Stentionhouse
06-06-2009, 02:31 PM
Originally posted by Miss-red
it'll not be cancelled the ratings would have to drop dramatically for that to be even considered plus we've 14 weeks ahead of us the ratings could fly up over that time xx
If losing over 25% of your ratings on day one isn't a dramatic drop, I don't know what is :joker: It'll lose another half million over the next week too.
Anything can happen between now and the middle of September. At the time BB5 wasn't actually doing that well at the start, after a big relaunch it was still only slightly up on BB4. It wasn't until fight night that the ratings went up. Likewise with CBB5- that was down on BB7 by over 1m until the race row.
Now I'm not saying something like that will happen, but it could and it could get more people to watch. Last night could also have just been a blip. Tonight will probably be lower just because its Saturday and the jury is out about tomorrow, but by Monday we'll probably get some kind of indication how it will perform. People writing it off after last night really isn't fair imo. Series' have bucked ratings trends in the past and this one could be the same. If its only getting 2m in 3 weeks time then by all means say it will get axed etc but to determine the next 98 days based on 1 night is ridiculous imo.
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