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arista
26-06-2009, 11:54 AM
Heading changed to the 2nd post
The first post was about these Church Nutters.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhedHERfcXk


These Freaks say they can stop people being Gay.


Just Proves
Never trust a church.



Sign Of The Times.

arista
05-07-2009, 09:06 AM
Now on BBC1 ' The Big Questions'

A Asian English Bishop
claims he can Cure Gays.


More Proof That the Church is crazy.

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 10:46 AM
being gay isn't a disease, its a choice a man takes in his life, when he finds himself attracted to the same sex rather than the opposite.
people like that need to be shot!!

arista
05-07-2009, 10:49 AM
Originally posted by TheOfficialAdam
being gay isn't a disease, its a choice a man takes in his life, when he finds himself attracted to the same sex rather than the opposite.
people like that need to be shot!!



The English Bishop
proves you can not trust the Church
Fact.

Simone.
05-07-2009, 10:52 AM
I watched a few seconds & found it disgusting.

This is one reason I don't like religion, it controls things & makes things like been gay seem like such a wrong thing, been gay can;t be cured it doesn't need to be cured it's not a disease.

Stu
05-07-2009, 11:05 AM
All this being 'saved' stuff you see with people falling to their knees in apprent divine intervention is nothing more than self-imposed theatrical psychodrama.

I want to meet some of these Christians who 'hear' god. What does he sound like, exactly? Dont you mean 'well I hear the voice in my head, but my ego is such that I need to attribute it to being an outside deity'.

Pathetic.

arista
05-07-2009, 11:15 AM
Stu - they want to meet you.


The Church is Now Evil.




Sign Of The Times.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 11:18 AM
There are extremes, people shouldn't mix extremists and 'normal' believers. I am a Christian but I don't agree with this kind of action, it's no good, at all.

arista
05-07-2009, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
There are extremes, people shouldn't mix extremists and 'normal' believers. I am a Christian but I don't agree with this kind of action, it's no good, at all.


You are Part of this Church



There is No God.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 11:23 AM
Message original : arista
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
There are extremes, people shouldn't mix extremists and 'normal' believers. I am a Christian but I don't agree with this kind of action, it's no good, at all.


You are Part of this Church



There is No God.

I am a part of this Church but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything it involves. It's just like Islamic and Muslims. Catholics also have their extremists. I'm not one of them.

And the 'There is No God' part has been discussed over and over again, I won't get into that debate. :thumbs:

Stu
05-07-2009, 11:24 AM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
There are extremes, people shouldn't mix extremists and 'normal' believers. I am a Christian but I don't agree with this kind of action, it's no good, at all.
But by being Christian you submit yourself to accepting that the Bible is the word of god. And numerous passages in the Old Testament comdemn homosexuality as a sin that people must be 'saved' from.

Your either Christian or your not. It's all this pix and mix stuff that bothers me. If you dont agree with all of Christianity, you dont need to be Christian. You can still believe in your god without subscribing to an organisation that has caused so much harm. Why would you be part of a church if you dont agree with everything in the church? Is that not making a mockery of the church itself?

But people feel nice and secure in a big religion. They feel the need to clasify themselves as a certain religion, as if their is strenght in numbers.

I believe in a god, but not in any religion.

arista
05-07-2009, 11:25 AM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : arista
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
There are extremes, people shouldn't mix extremists and 'normal' believers. I am a Christian but I don't agree with this kind of action, it's no good, at all.


You are Part of this Church



There is No God.

I am a part of this Church but that doesn't mean I have to agree with everything it involves. It's just like Islamic and Muslims. Catholics also have their extremists. I'm not one of them.

And the 'There is No God' part has been discussed over and over again, I won't get into that debate. :thumbs:



You and Them follow the fable Bible
Fact.

arista
05-07-2009, 11:26 AM
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
There are extremes, people shouldn't mix extremists and 'normal' believers. I am a Christian but I don't agree with this kind of action, it's no good, at all.
But by being Christian you submit yourself to accepting that the Bible is the word of god. And numerous passages in the Old Testament comdemn homosexuality as a sin that people must be 'saved' from.

Your either Christian or your not. It's all this pix and mix stuff that bothers me. If you dont agree with all of Christianity, you dont need to be Christian. You can still believe in your god without subscribing to an organisation that has caused so much harm. Why would you be part of a church if you dont agree with everything in the church? Is that not making a mockery of the church itself?

But people feel nice and secure in a big religion. They feel the need to clasify themselves as a certain religion, as if their is strenght in numbers.

I believe in a god, but not in any religion.




Stu they put it in a Drawer
and hide from the Truth.


Yes the French do Pix and Mix Bible

CaptRemy follows
the Fable Bible.

Stu
05-07-2009, 11:26 AM
As blunt as Arista has put it, he has a point. If you are Christian you should follow the bible. If not, why bother?

It has nothing to do with 'the French' though so stop talking out of your arse. It's not nation specific. Plenty do it.

arista
05-07-2009, 11:28 AM
Originally posted by Stu
As blunt as Arista has put it, he has a point. If you are Christian you should follow the bible. If not, why bother?


Yes I am Blunt


But you Stu are
Bang On Right.




Sign Of The Times.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 11:30 AM
Message original : Stu
But by being Christian you submit yourself to accepting that the Bible is the word of god. And numerous passages in the Old Testament comdemn homosexuality as a sin that people must be 'saved' from.

Your either Christian or your not. It's all this pix and mix stuff that bothers me. If you dont agree with all of Christianity, you dont need to be Christian. You can still believe in your god without subscribing to an organisation that has caused so much harm. Why would you be part of a church if you dont agree with everything in the church? Is that not making a mockery of the church itself?

But people feel nice and secure in a big religion. They feel the need to clasify themselves as a certain religion, as if their is strenght in numbers.

I believe in a god, but not in any religion.

The 'Homosexuality' part is one of the few (very few) things I don't agree with. I'm not going to stop being a Christian just because I don't agree with a few aspects of it. It's not a mockery or whatsoever, it's me living today in the 21st century and thinking that, the whole 'homosexuality' thing shouldn't be brought anylonger, even though I am straight but after all, being a Christian is accepting people for who they are.
I don't even like the Pope, he's such a conservative person and won't make any efforts, Religion should be adapted to the new tools such as condom. Does that make me a weaker Christian ? I don't think so.

bronaaaa
05-07-2009, 11:31 AM
I don't believe in 'curing' gays, we believe in God made us all how he wanted etc.

Stu
05-07-2009, 11:35 AM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Stu
But by being Christian you submit yourself to accepting that the Bible is the word of god. And numerous passages in the Old Testament comdemn homosexuality as a sin that people must be 'saved' from.

Your either Christian or your not. It's all this pix and mix stuff that bothers me. If you dont agree with all of Christianity, you dont need to be Christian. You can still believe in your god without subscribing to an organisation that has caused so much harm. Why would you be part of a church if you dont agree with everything in the church? Is that not making a mockery of the church itself?

But people feel nice and secure in a big religion. They feel the need to clasify themselves as a certain religion, as if their is strenght in numbers.

I believe in a god, but not in any religion.

The 'Homosexuality' part is one of the few (very few) things I don't agree with. I'm not going to stop being a Christian just because I don't agree with a few aspects of it. It's not a mockery or whatsoever, it's me living today in the 21st century and thinking that, the whole 'homosexuality' thing shouldn't be brought anylonger, even though I am straight but after all, being a Christian is accepting people for who they are.
I don't even like the Pope, he's such a conservative person and won't make any efforts, Religion should be adapted to the new tools such as condom. Does that make me a weaker Christian ? I don't think so.
Well, depending on how extreme someones views are, some would say it does not even make you a Christian. After all, if Christianity accepts the Bible as being the COMPLETE word of God, as inspired by his divine spirit ''in order to make man perfect'' [St. Jerome] then not believing in all this, by my logic, would cease to make you a complete Christian.

I agree that the church should move along with the times, but if thats in direct contradiction to gods own word, it's not really Christian, is it?

For me Christianity has too much of a fetish for suffering to be considered a wholesome religion. They see life as the great abstinence and death as the great indulgence. It should be the other way around.

Spirituality is fine, but when you get into this tedius religion stuff it just becomes bizzare as so much of it is simply man made tradition.

DrunkerThanMoses
05-07-2009, 11:36 AM
The bible has so many loops in it, in the first place... like the old testament was apperently written by Moses, however the final book records his death? All the gospels have different accounts of Jesus's reserection.... which one to believe? And there is no history of Jesus's life from aged 13 - 30? It baised towards lady... even Mary M had a gospel... but because she is a woamn the early church didnt put it in... becasue she was women. This is stupid.... you cant cure be gay. I have read the bible. Like Alex said in "Clockwork Orange", or someone taling about the movie.. .the bible is the most violent book created. Their view is that if you are gay your like the girl from the exorcist or something. No wounder many people today dont bother with relgion... we live in a society now that accepts homosexuality... even the older generation... who are church goers seem to accept it!

Stu
05-07-2009, 11:39 AM
My main problem with the Bible is that Christianity's ultimate 'proof' if you like of Jesus being the messiah is that it was foretold in the old testament. Right their we have a problem. Anyone with an agenda could have written the new testament to such a style that it fullfilled the prophecies outlined in the old testament.

Also, their are COUNTLESS other prophecies in the old testament that went completely unfulfilled. To worship the book word for word, in my opinion, is akin to mental illness.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 11:40 AM
Message original : Stu
Well, depending on how extreme someones views are, some would say it does not even make you a Christian. After all, if Christianity accepts the Bible as being the COMPLETE word of God, as inspired by his divine spirit ''in order to make man perfect'' [St. Jerome] then not believing in all this, by my logic, would cease to make you a complete Christian.

I agree that the church should move along with the times, but if thats in direct contradiction to gods own word, it's not really Christian, is it?

For me Christianity has too much of a fetish for suffering to be considered a wholesome religion. They see life as the great abstinence and death as the great indulgence. It should be the other way around.

Spirituality is fine, but when you get into this tedius religion stuff it just becomes bizzare as so much of it is simply man made tradition.

Like I said, I'm not a strict believer. I do believe in God and what it stands for. I live with my time, I enjoy life the way I want to. I've read the Bible, I loved it (but a few parts) but it has to be taken with a pinch of salt, there are tons of other version in the Vatican which have never been released.
I try not to hurt people and be a good person, I do pray when I feel like it but believing in God certainly won't take any decisions I won't want to.
There are extremists, like completely mad people who turned the Bible in the wrong way and live word for word with it. They're stuck in the Middle age when witches and ginger people should be burnt. You should live with your time.

DrunkerThanMoses
05-07-2009, 11:42 AM
Originally posted by Stu
My main problem with the Bible is that Christianity's ultimate 'proof' if you like of Jesus being the messiah is that it was foretold in the old testament. Right their we have a problem. Anyone with an agenda could have written the new testament to such a style that it fullfilled the prophecies outlined in the old testament.

Also, their are COUNTLESS other prophecies in the old testament that went completely unfulfilled. To worship the book word for word, in my opinion, is akin to mental illness.

I think the biggest authority personal to me in every religion is the books.... Rig Veda, Torah, Bible and Koran, all have the highest authority!

Stu
05-07-2009, 11:43 AM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Stu
Well, depending on how extreme someones views are, some would say it does not even make you a Christian. After all, if Christianity accepts the Bible as being the COMPLETE word of God, as inspired by his divine spirit ''in order to make man perfect'' [St. Jerome] then not believing in all this, by my logic, would cease to make you a complete Christian.

I agree that the church should move along with the times, but if thats in direct contradiction to gods own word, it's not really Christian, is it?

For me Christianity has too much of a fetish for suffering to be considered a wholesome religion. They see life as the great abstinence and death as the great indulgence. It should be the other way around.

Spirituality is fine, but when you get into this tedius religion stuff it just becomes bizzare as so much of it is simply man made tradition.

Like I said, I'm not a strict believer. I do believe in God and what it stands for. I live with my time, I enjoy life the way I want to. I've read the Bible, I loved it (but a few parts) but it has to be taken with a pinch of salt, there are tons of other version in the Vatican which have never been released.
I try not to hurt people and be a good person, I do pray when I feel like it but believing in God certainly won't take any decisions I won't want to.
There are extremists, like completely mad people who turned the Bible in the wrong way and live word for word with it. They're stuck in the Middle age when witches and ginger people should be burnt. You should live with your time.
Turned it the wrong way? Like it or not, your SUPPOSED to live word for word by it! That is the cornerstone of Christianity! The authority, if you like. It's not a pick and mix book! Surely if you DONT believe in all of it, no matter how good your intentions are, you dont believe in all of Christianity. Therefore by proxy your not a complete Christian. Why worship a hit and miss?

You also raise another good point : Their are numerous contradictory versions of the Bible out their.

arista
05-07-2009, 11:48 AM
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Stu
But by being Christian you submit yourself to accepting that the Bible is the word of god. And numerous passages in the Old Testament comdemn homosexuality as a sin that people must be 'saved' from.

Your either Christian or your not. It's all this pix and mix stuff that bothers me. If you dont agree with all of Christianity, you dont need to be Christian. You can still believe in your god without subscribing to an organisation that has caused so much harm. Why would you be part of a church if you dont agree with everything in the church? Is that not making a mockery of the church itself?

But people feel nice and secure in a big religion. They feel the need to clasify themselves as a certain religion, as if their is strenght in numbers.

I believe in a god, but not in any religion.

The 'Homosexuality' part is one of the few (very few) things I don't agree with. I'm not going to stop being a Christian just because I don't agree with a few aspects of it. It's not a mockery or whatsoever, it's me living today in the 21st century and thinking that, the whole 'homosexuality' thing shouldn't be brought anylonger, even though I am straight but after all, being a Christian is accepting people for who they are.
I don't even like the Pope, he's such a conservative person and won't make any efforts, Religion should be adapted to the new tools such as condom. Does that make me a weaker Christian ? I don't think so.
Well, depending on how extreme someones views are, some would say it does not even make you a Christian. After all, if Christianity accepts the Bible as being the COMPLETE word of God, as inspired by his divine spirit ''in order to make man perfect'' [St. Jerome] then not believing in all this, by my logic, would cease to make you a complete Christian.

I agree that the church should move along with the times, but if thats in direct contradiction to gods own word, it's not really Christian, is it?

For me Christianity has too much of a fetish for suffering to be considered a wholesome religion. They see life as the great abstinence and death as the great indulgence. It should be the other way around.

Spirituality is fine, but when you get into this tedius religion stuff it just becomes bizzare as so much of it is simply man made tradition.





Yes Frenchie Remy
is Anti Gay as his Fable Bible Controls him.




Life In The City.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 11:49 AM
Message original : Stu
Turned it the wrong way? Like it or not, your SUPPOSED to live word for word by it! That is the cornerstone of Christianity! The authority, if you like. It's not a pick and mix book! Surely if you DONT believe in all of it, no matter how good your intentions are, you dont believe in all of Christianity. Therefore by proxy your not a complete Christian. Why worship a hit and miss?

You also raise another good point : Their are numerous contradictory versions of the Bible out their.

They took it way too seriously, that's what I meant. I believe in most of Christianity but living today and then reading the Bible made me asking some questions. I'm not an extremist to think EVERYTHING in the Bible is true, we know some parts are confusing and may have been misrepresented with the whole time thing. I read it and I have made my mind about it. I won't go down the streets claiming being gay is bad, witches should be burnt and everything else but the Church should be banned. No. What the Bible and my religion education taught me is that we should help and accept everyone the way they are and give full love.

I don't respect extremists because at the end of the day, it hurts people and something it's shameful to be a Christian when I see things like that. People should really not think we're all like that.

arista
05-07-2009, 11:51 AM
Stu Frenchie Remy
is back on his Pix and Mix mode.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 11:51 AM
Message original : arista

Yes Frenchie Remy
is Anti Gay as his Fable Bible Controls him.




Life In The City.

Didn't you read my posts about it ? I just said what is written about 'homosexuals aren't natural' in the Bible I don't agree with. I'm straight and I'm not homophobic so don't dare you calling me homophobic when you get no evidence. Just read my posts for once.

Stu
05-07-2009, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Stu
Turned it the wrong way? Like it or not, your SUPPOSED to live word for word by it! That is the cornerstone of Christianity! The authority, if you like. It's not a pick and mix book! Surely if you DONT believe in all of it, no matter how good your intentions are, you dont believe in all of Christianity. Therefore by proxy your not a complete Christian. Why worship a hit and miss?

You also raise another good point : Their are numerous contradictory versions of the Bible out their.

They took it way too seriously, that's what I meant. I believe in most of Christianity but living today and then reading the Bible made me asking some questions. I'm not an extremist to think EVERYTHING in the Bible is true, we know some parts are confusing and may have been misrepresented with the whole time thing. I read it and I have made my mind about it. I won't go down the streets claiming being gay is bad, witches should be burnt and everything else but the Church should be banned. No. What the Bible and my religion education taught me we should help and accept everyone the way they are and give full love.

I don't respect extremists because at the end of the day, it hurts people and something it's shameful to be a Christian when I see things like that. People should really not think we're all like that.
Yes, I know you dont hate on homosexuals [dont listen to Arista!], thats not what I am saying, what I am saying is by choosing only certain parts of the Bible to believe it only makes you part Christian, by my logic.

You said it yourself, Christianity and The Bible itself are both not completely fit or compatible with todays modern world. Then in my mind, it's not a church for me!

arista
05-07-2009, 11:52 AM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : arista

Yes Frenchie Remy
is Anti Gay as his Fable Bible Controls him.




Life In The City.

Didn't you read my posts about it ? I just said what is written about 'homosexuals aren't natural' in the Bible I don't agree with. I'm straight and I'm not homophobic so don't dare you calling me homophobic when you get no evidence. Just read my posts for once.


It is your Church that makes you Confused.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 11:56 AM
Message original : Stu
Yes, I know you dont hate on homosexuals [dont listen to Arista!], thats not what I am saying, what I am saying is by choosing only certain parts of the Bible to believe it only makes you part Christian, by my logic.

You said it yourself, Christianity and The Bible itself are both not completely fit or compatible with todays modern world. Then in my mind, it's not a church for me!

I know I'm a part Christian but I'm still one. What is being written in the Bible should be interpreted differently through the time because values and morals change.
It still is a Church tho because it has such an influence on people's life, it's an institution. And we don't all believe in the same way.

arista
05-07-2009, 11:57 AM
Originally posted by Stu

You said it yourself, Christianity and The Bible itself are both not completely fit or compatible with todays modern world. Then in my mind, it's not a church for me!


Yes Frencies Bible Stinks.

arista
05-07-2009, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Stu
Yes, I know you dont hate on homosexuals [dont listen to Arista!], thats not what I am saying, what I am saying is by choosing only certain parts of the Bible to believe it only makes you part Christian, by my logic.

You said it yourself, Christianity and The Bible itself are both not completely fit or compatible with todays modern world. Then in my mind, it's not a church for me!

I know I'm a part Christian but I'm still one. What is being written in the Bible should be interpreted differently through the time because values and morals change.
It still is a Church tho because it has such an influence on people's life, it's an institution. And we don't all believe in the same way.


Back to his Pix and Mix
again.

Stu
05-07-2009, 11:58 AM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Stu
Yes, I know you dont hate on homosexuals [dont listen to Arista!], thats not what I am saying, what I am saying is by choosing only certain parts of the Bible to believe it only makes you part Christian, by my logic.

You said it yourself, Christianity and The Bible itself are both not completely fit or compatible with todays modern world. Then in my mind, it's not a church for me!

I know I'm a part Christian but I'm still one. What is being written in the Bible should be interpreted differently through the time because values and morals change.
It still is a Church tho because it has such an influence on people's life, it's an institution. And we don't all believe in the same way.
But I thought that was the whole idea of the Church? Or any Church? That you all believe in the same thing?

You hit the nail on the head, values and morals change. But according to the Bible, it is the perfect moral code, as outlined by God. Obviously things have changed and people are starting to see the Bible for what it is.

The Church is in full on panic mode. Having a psychotic bulldog for a pope does not help, either.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 11:58 AM
Message original : arista

It is your Church that makes you Confused.

Like I said, read my posts and you'll understand. I've just told Stu that I have made my mind about it by reading the Bible, I've been to a Catholic school and I'm living my life to the foolest: I drink, I smoke, I didn't wait until marriage to have sex and I don't go to the church every sunday morning. This is how I made my mind, by thinking about what the world is all about and where my heart is. I'm nowhere confused.

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 11:58 AM
ignore what arista says, he's speaking out of his arse.

arista
05-07-2009, 12:00 PM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : arista

It is your Church that makes you Confused.

Like I said, read my posts and you'll understand. I've just told Stu that I have made my mind about it by reading the Bible, I've been to a Catholic school and I'm living my life to the foolest: I drink, I smoke, I didn't wait until marriage to have sex and I don't go to the church every sunday morning. This is how I made my mind, by thinking about what the world is all about and where my heart is. I'm nowhere confused.


you are not normal
as Gays are not permitted in your Church.


You are not Modern at all.

Stu
05-07-2009, 12:02 PM
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : arista

It is your Church that makes you Confused.

Like I said, read my posts and you'll understand. I've just told Stu that I have made my mind about it by reading the Bible, I've been to a Catholic school and I'm living my life to the foolest: I drink, I smoke, I didn't wait until marriage to have sex and I don't go to the church every sunday morning. This is how I made my mind, by thinking about what the world is all about and where my heart is. I'm nowhere confused.


you are not normal
as Gays are not permitted in your Church.


You are not Modern at all.
That shows what you know. Why are their gay ministers and clergymen, then?

The church forbids, today, PRACTICING homosexuality. Not homosexuality itself.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 12:02 PM
Message original : Stu
But I thought that was the whole idea of the Church? Or any Church? That you all believe in the same thing?

You hit the nail on the head, values and morals change. But according to the Bible, it is the perfect moral code, as outlined by God. Obviously things have changed and people are starting to see the Bible for what it is.

The Church is in full on panic mode. Having a psychotic bulldog for a pope does not help, either.

There are multiple ways of being a Christian: the extremists, the free-believers (like me), the strict ones etc.... We believe in the same values (theoretically) but we don't express it the same way. But you're still a Christian, get it ?

I agree with your opinion on the Pope. I was terribly disappointed when I knew who he was, an old conservative narrow-minded man who doesn't believe in technology and want us to go back to the Middle Age. John Paul II was unanimously loved for being open-minded, nice and comprehensive of what our time is all about.

arista
05-07-2009, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Stu

That shows what you know. Why are their gay ministers and clergymen, then?

The church forbids, today, PRACTICING homosexuality. Not homosexuality itself.


Yes No Gays doing It


You and your Pathetic Church Forbid that.


100% Proof you are Not Modern
Fact.

Stu
05-07-2009, 12:05 PM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : Stu
But I thought that was the whole idea of the Church? Or any Church? That you all believe in the same thing?

You hit the nail on the head, values and morals change. But according to the Bible, it is the perfect moral code, as outlined by God. Obviously things have changed and people are starting to see the Bible for what it is.

The Church is in full on panic mode. Having a psychotic bulldog for a pope does not help, either.

There are multiple ways of being a Christian: the extremists, the free-believers (like me), the strict ones etc.... We believe in the same values (theoretically) but we don't express it the same way. But you're still a Christian, get it ?

I agree with your opinion on the Pope. I was terribly disappointed when I knew who he was, an old conservative narrow-minded man who doesn't believe in technology and want us to go back to the Middle Age. John Paul II was unanimously loved for being open-minded, nice and comprehensive of what our time is all about.
Yes, I will leave it at that, because I fear we are starting to go in circles.

I must say though, Pope John Paul II was no saint either. He was the one who appointed Benedict as his so called enforcer. He simply had a friendly face. He spent much of his career lambasting contraception, too!

If you ask me, condoms are a miracle! :joker:

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 12:05 PM
captain remy i completely understand what your saying, but i think your wasting your time trying to get your point across to arista, he's a moron lacking any form of intelligence.

Stu
05-07-2009, 12:06 PM
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Stu

That shows what you know. Why are their gay ministers and clergymen, then?

The church forbids, today, PRACTICING homosexuality. Not homosexuality itself.


Yes No Gays doing It


You and your Pathetic Church Forbid that.


100% Proof you are Not Modern
Fact.
You and your church? Who said I was Christian?

arista
05-07-2009, 12:07 PM
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Stu

That shows what you know. Why are their gay ministers and clergymen, then?

The church forbids, today, PRACTICING homosexuality. Not homosexuality itself.


Yes No Gays doing It


You and your Pathetic Church Forbid that.


100% Proof you are Not Modern
Fact.
You and your church? Who said I was Christian?



No Frenchie is Not Modern.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 12:07 PM
Of course condoms are a miracle ! It is sense to say it is. :tongue:

I'll leave it as it, at least I can debate with you, always a great debater unlike arista, and the debate is like a discussion between deaf people.

arista
05-07-2009, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Of course condoms are a miracle ! It is sense to say it is. :tongue:

I'll leave it as it, at least I can debate with you, always a great debater unlike arista, and the debate is like a discussion between deaf people.


You can go back to your Sad Fable Bible.

Stu
05-07-2009, 12:09 PM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Of course condoms are a miracle ! It is sense to say it is. :tongue:

I'll leave it as it, at least I can debate with you, always a great debater unlike arista, and the debate is like a discussion between deaf people.
My thoughts exactly. It's like banging your head at a wall.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 12:10 PM
Message original : arista

No Frenchie is Not Modern.

You're being an a$$hole on purpose or is that natural from you to never understand what you're reading ?

I have just said I don't agree with the whole 'Being homosexual is not normal' aspect of the Bible.

What don't you understand in that sentence ?

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 12:12 PM
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Of course condoms are a miracle ! It is sense to say it is. :tongue:

I'll leave it as it, at least I can debate with you, always a great debater unlike arista, and the debate is like a discussion between deaf people.


You can go back to your Sad Fable Bible.

its like your a record stuck on repeat.
he has stated on many occasions, that he doesn't follow the bible to the letter, so why don't you just give him a break, and stop stirring trouble, because you have nothing better to do with your day.
bored much, go out then, or find a hobbie, but for gods sake get off here,.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 12:14 PM
Message original : TheOfficialAdam

its like your a record stuck on repeat.
he has stated on many occasions, that he doesn't follow the bible to the letter, so why don't you just give him a break, and stop stirring trouble, because you have nothing better to do with your day.
bored much, go out then, or find a hobbie, but for gods sake get off here,.

Thanks. He's got something against me since he joined, I don't know what it is but it is and he's being a prick with me every single occasion he can be.

arista
05-07-2009, 12:14 PM
But you are part of the Church
Pix & Mix Capt Remy.

Captain.Remy
05-07-2009, 12:15 PM
Message original : arista
But you are part of the Church
Pix & Mix Capt Remy.

arista, please be clever and read what I wrote. It's not so hard is it ? I leave it now, insult me if you want.

arista
05-07-2009, 12:15 PM
Originally posted by TheOfficialAdam
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Of course condoms are a miracle ! It is sense to say it is. :tongue:

I'll leave it as it, at least I can debate with you, always a great debater unlike arista, and the debate is like a discussion between deaf people.


You can go back to your Sad Fable Bible.

its like your a record stuck on repeat.
he has stated on many occasions, that he doesn't follow the bible to the letter, so why don't you just give him a break, and stop stirring trouble, because you have nothing better to do with your day.
bored much, go out then, or find a hobbie, but for gods sake get off here,.



Theres No Trouble here
Records are Cool.

arista
05-07-2009, 12:16 PM
Originally posted by Captain.Remy
Message original : arista
But you are part of the Church
Pix & Mix Capt Remy.

arista, please be clever and read what I wrote. It's not so hard is it ? I leave it now, insult me if you want.


I read it
But Stu is right
you people Pix and Mix with your Church.


That is a Outstanding Point.
Not a Insult.

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 12:17 PM
i'm guessing arista is a child by the way he responds.
either that or he has the mental age of a child and is stuck in a "mans" body

arista
05-07-2009, 12:18 PM
Originally posted by TheOfficialAdam
i'm guessing arista is a child by the way he responds.
either that or he has the mental age of a child and is stuck in a "mans" body


You can Guess
but you are Wrong.


Stay on Topic.

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 12:22 PM
okay then i will, but what actually is wrong with a little "pix and mix" when it comes to religions and beliefs.
if i was a Christian, i wouldn't be an extremist and follow the bible to the letter, i would believe what i thought was right in it.

Stu
05-07-2009, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by TheOfficialAdam
okay then i will, but what actually is wrong with a little "pix and mix" when it comes to religions and beliefs.
if i was a Christian, i wouldn't be an extremist and follow the bible to the letter, i would believe what i thought was right in it.
But the whole idea of Christianity is the entire Bible is the complete 'right'.

arista
05-07-2009, 12:23 PM
Originally posted by TheOfficialAdam
okay then i will, but what actually is wrong with a little "pix and mix" when it comes to religions and beliefs.
if i was a Christian, i wouldn't be an extremist and follow the bible to the letter, i would believe what i thought was right in it.



It is Wrong
you are in the Church or Not.
Stu is Right on that.

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 01:02 PM
yeah but as i already said, in todays age, if your christian, you dont have to follow the bible exactly, its your choice as the end of the day.

arista
05-07-2009, 01:07 PM
Originally posted by TheOfficialAdam
yeah but as i already said, in todays age, if your christian, you dont have to follow the bible exactly, its your choice as the end of the day.


No Todays Age
the Bible is no longer needed.

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 01:17 PM
the bible is no longer needed so why have you been kicking up such a fuss on capt remy then??
because he chooses what he wants

arista
05-07-2009, 01:18 PM
Fuss!

This is Normal.

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 01:27 PM
you think its normal to grill someone over there beliefs.
what makes you think you can say what he can and cant do

Stu
05-07-2009, 01:29 PM
Originally posted by TheOfficialAdam
yeah but as i already said, in todays age, if your christian, you dont have to follow the bible exactly, its your choice as the end of the day.
Yeah, and if you choose not to follow it, IMO, your not exactly a Christian. What do you mean by 'in this day and age'? Who is making these decisions exactly? Did God come down from the heavens in 1972 and proclaim Bible reading a thing of the past? No. You should still follow the Bible, it's people themselves that have ****ed up, which is probably a good thing, as the Bible is a horrible book.

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 01:35 PM
if you want to follow the bible to your own extent then that doesnt make you less of a christian in my opinion, its extremist idiots that have made people believe that if you arent hardcore then your not a christian, which in my opinion is bullshit, alot of stuff in the bible is bullshit, but some things are just common sense.
and what i meant by in this day and age, for example is, with homosexuality being so out, and not frowned upon, well i don't know about where you live, but here its not, its easier for a person to choose what he wants to belive from the bible/.

Stu
05-07-2009, 01:40 PM
But thats my point. Choosing what you want to believe from the Bible. Your either in the Christian faith or not. It's not a ****ing happy meal. It's like showing up to work and deciding your only going to do half of your contracted duties.

By all means choose what you want to believe in, but if your beliefs dont fall in line with those of the Christian Church, I think it's time to find a new church.

arista
05-07-2009, 01:59 PM
Happy Meal
Pick and Mix



And there is No God


Life In The City.

Stu
05-07-2009, 01:59 PM
Originally posted by arista
And there is No God

Could you please stop saying that? Some of us obviously have faith that their is a higher divine force which unites us all, no matter what form it takes.

WUM.

arista
05-07-2009, 02:02 PM
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by arista
And there is No God

Could you please stop saying that? Some of us obviously have faith that their is a higher divine force which unites us all, no matter what form it takes.

WUM.




No.

TheOfficialAdam
05-07-2009, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by arista
Happy Meal
Pick and Mix



And there is No God


Life In The City.

thats in your opinion, but you arent the voice of everyone:banana:

Stu
05-07-2009, 02:03 PM
Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Stu
Originally posted by arista
And there is No God

Could you please stop saying that? Some of us obviously have faith that their is a higher divine force which unites us all, no matter what form it takes.

WUM.




No.
Fine, continue on being an obnoxious ****ing robot. Good to see that your staunch atheism has led you to lead a highly productive life spent posting messages on internet forums.

arista
05-07-2009, 02:05 PM
Get it Out of your System Young Stu.

arista
05-07-2009, 02:06 PM
Originally posted by TheOfficialAdam


thats in your opinion, but you arent the voice of everyone:banana:



Of Course Not
I never said I am speaking for everyone.



But at least Stu is in the Modern World.

CookieDough4000
06-07-2009, 10:58 PM
So, just to get this clear: the parts of Christianity you like are true, and the parts you don't like aren't? How marvellously convenient. Isn't it nice when God accomodates our personal preferences like this! I suppose half the Bible was just an elaborate joke.

Stu
07-07-2009, 11:11 AM
Originally posted by CookieDough4000
So, just to get this clear: the parts of Christianity you like are true, and the parts you don't like aren't? How marvellously convenient. Isn't it nice when God accomodates our personal preferences like this! I suppose half the Bible was just an elaborate joke.
Well said my man.

bettiepage
08-07-2009, 10:26 AM
I wonder if it worked?

Benjamin
08-07-2009, 10:34 AM
ha ha ha. That's amusing. I don't want curing though, I enjoy doing gay things like mincing, having a handbag, touching men, dancing like I'm on crack, screeching. etc. :whistle::love:

bananarama
08-07-2009, 07:07 PM
Originally posted by Stu
All this being 'saved' stuff you see with people falling to their knees in apprent divine intervention is nothing more than self-imposed theatrical psychodrama.

I want to meet some of these Christians who 'hear' god. What does he sound like, exactly? Dont you mean 'well I hear the voice in my head, but my ego is such that I need to attribute it to being an outside deity'.

Pathetic.

Well said. All bible litrature will be based on the self delusion of those responsible for writing the trash in the first place......

IsleOfWeather
14-07-2009, 10:44 AM
perhaps they should be cured of a love of Britney Spears initially and then move it up a gear?

Marc
14-07-2009, 10:44 AM
What the ... random!

IsleOfWeather
14-07-2009, 10:52 AM
Originally posted by bananarama
Originally posted by Stu
All this being 'saved' stuff you see with people falling to their knees in apprent divine intervention is nothing more than self-imposed theatrical psychodrama.

I want to meet some of these Christians who 'hear' god. What does he sound like, exactly? Dont you mean 'well I hear the voice in my head, but my ego is such that I need to attribute it to being an outside deity'.

Pathetic.

Well said. All bible litrature will be based on the self delusion of those responsible for writing the trash in the first place......

Your attitude is a mirror of the one that you fume about.

ironic would be the word