Priorities in Charity

[Shaun]

I was talking to someone from a childrens' charity on the way home today and she mentioned how animal charities are the most donated-to in the country (I believe the RSPCA gets more than the NSPCC, for example).

And I just thought that was wrong - I mean sure, sick and mistreated animals is a terrible thing, but surely less important than the welfare of human beings, let alone children?

So yeah, it got me thinking about other charities that aren't really as important as the others - and thought I'd ask if any of you have any that you would see as 'less important'.

[pinkmichk]

there is so many worthwhile charitys i personally cant give to them all so i give to the ones that i have a personal reason to support first such as cancer ones, heart foundation, and domestic abuse ones
the british public are huge big animal lovers but i think a lot of people dont like to think of child abuse going on for example

[Marc]

I wouldn't say any charity is less important to me! I just like to think my money would be better spent and would have more of an impact on an animal charity rather than like cancer research. This thread could be a platform for some sort of arguing eeeekk

[Shaun]

Not all arguing is bad, a 'debate' is an argument...

[pinkmichk]

charitys like the cancer ones not only pay for people to sit in labs coming up with a cure they do things like running hospics which without those a lot of people would live out the last of their life stuck in a hospital bed

[Shaun]

Hmm yes, I guess with animal charities it's easy to see where your donations are being spent (either on food, vaccinations, veterinary care, shelter, workers etc.).

But I dunno, I guess what I'm trying to say is that ultimately I find it wrong that animals are more cared-about by the charity donors of the country than abused children.

[Jayson]

I guess there's no such thing as bad charity, but its bad that this is the case.

[Marc]

Originally posted by Shaun
Not all arguing is bad, a 'debate' is an argument...

Yeah I know but some people on here may just take my opinion completely the wrong way. I've lost family members to cancer before and I know how important it is to donate to cancer charities but I dunno I just see looking after animals as an easier option to achieve.

[pinkmichk]

i agree with you while i dont like it that animals are abused i feel more concerned about children

[arista]

Originally posted by Shaun
I was talking to someone from a childrens' charity on the way home today and she mentioned how animal charities are the most donated-to in the country (I believe the RSPCA gets more than the NSPCC, for example).

And I just thought that was wrong - I mean sure, sick and mistreated animals is a terrible thing, but surely less important than the welfare of human beings, let alone children?

So yeah, it got me thinking about other charities that aren't really as important as the others - and thought I'd ask if any of you have any that you would see as 'less important'.



Wrong
Shaun You can Not tell the UK Public
where there money Must go.

Talk Sense.


This is a Free Nation

Not what you want

[Shaun]

I'm not telling the UK public where the money must go, I'm telling you where I think it should go.

Welcome to the idea of debate. :rolleyes:

[arista]

Originally posted by Shaun
Hmm yes, I guess with animal charities it's easy to see where your donations are being spent (either on food, vaccinations, veterinary care, shelter, workers etc.).

But I dunno, I guess what I'm trying to say is that ultimately I find it wrong that animals are more cared-about by the charity donors of the country than abused children.


Shaun you can not Tell the Public what they do with there own money.



Life In The City.

[arista]

Originally posted by Shaun
I'm not telling the UK public where the money must go, I'm telling you where I think it should go.

Welcome to the idea of debate. :rolleyes:


But these set ups will Not change.
You are Deluded to think of a Change


Idea
Never that simple
Young Shaun.

[pinkmichk]

arista he is giving his opinion you know he is not forcing ideas or anything onto anyone he is having a discussion where he is giving his views on the matter

shaun have you ever thought about doing some volunteer work cos sometimes time can be more than money

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
arista he is giving his opinion you know he is not forcing ideas or anything onto anyone he is having a discussion where he is giving his views on the matter





Yes but I am in Real Life
The RSPCA will stay at the top.


It will Not Change.

[Shaun]

It's not deluded to think of change. If I accepted everything that is currently happening in the world, and did not question a thing, or disagree with anything, that'd essentially be me pissing on democracy.

I think childrens charities are more important than animal charities, to the extent that I think that the fact that the RSPCA getting more money than NSPCC is wrong.

This is a debate, if you disagree with my viewpoint, then say so, don't just say "you can't say that, it's the way things are Young Shaun (by the way, stop calling me that)".

[Marc]

arista stop being an arse :rolleyes:

[Shaun]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
shaun have you ever thought about doing some volunteer work cos sometimes time can be more than money

Hmm, never really thought about it. I'd hate to be a campaigner like the sort that stand around town all day trying to convince people to donate to their charity, because essentially they're ignored, and I'm not very good at talking to people I don't know.

Ironically I've volunteered at an animals' kennels before :laugh:

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Marcjswp
arista stop being an arse :rolleyes:

:hello:

[arista]

Originally posted by Shaun
It's not deluded to think of change. If I accepted everything that is currently happening in the world, and did not question a thing, or disagree with anything, that'd essentially be me pissing on democracy.

I think childrens charities are more important than animal charities, to the extent that I think that the fact that the RSPCA getting more money than NSPCC is wrong.

This is a debate, if you disagree with my viewpoint, then say so, don't just say "you can't say that, it's the way things are Young Shaun (by the way, stop calling me that)".


The Public Fund who they Want
This is a Free Nation.


You can Never Change what has been set up before you
were even born.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by pinkmichk
arista he is giving his opinion you know he is not forcing ideas or anything onto anyone he is having a discussion where he is giving his views on the matter





Yes but I am in Real Life
The RSPCA will stay at the top.


It will Not Change.

yes we are in real life too :rolleyes: good fo you if you want to donate to animals charitys more so than others but instead of trying to force your views on others by basically ignoring others points and just saying yours try backing it up so it actually makes for a discussion

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by Shaun
Originally posted by pinkmichk
shaun have you ever thought about doing some volunteer work cos sometimes time can be more than money

Hmm, never really thought about it. I'd hate to be a campaigner like the sort that stand around town all day trying to convince people to donate to their charity, because essentially they're ignored, and I'm not very good at talking to people I don't know.

Ironically I've volunteered at an animals' kennels before :laugh:

there is lots of ways you could give time i wouldnt want to stand on the street either how about charity shop work (i know its not for everyone though) i am going to be hopefully doing some volunteer work at the local womens refuge when my daughter starts school full time cos its one of those that are higher in my priority due to personal experiences

[arista]

No I do not give anything.


But for those that do
that is there wish
and Shaun
can not control it.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
No I do not give anything.


But for those that do
that is there wish
and Shaun
can not control it.

shaun knows that (sorry shaun) i know it and so do others posting on this thread he isnt tying to change peoples opinions that is down to them is he stating what he feels on personal opinion and why he doesnt agree with it i saw no where in his post saying you all must give to the charity i say or else or anything on those lines

[arista]

Yes but in Real Life
you can not change Power
like this.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
Yes but in Real Life
you can not change Power
like this.

:rolleyes: read the post arista he doesnt want to change things he know people give to who they want he is putting his view across as to why he doesnt agree i agree with shaun that its not right but thats how it is i dont expect to be able to change the worlds view

[arista]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by arista
Yes but in Real Life
you can not change Power
like this.

:rolleyes: read the post arista he doesnt want to change things he know people give to who they want he is putting his view across as to why he doesnt agree i agree with shaun that its not right but thats how it is i dont expect to be able to change the worlds view


He does not agree
I am sure many would be the same.


Life In The City.

[Marc]

Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Marcjswp
arista stop being an arse :rolleyes:

:hello:

Well he is.. he replies with stupid stuff. I see why people think he's a robot now

[arista]

Originally posted by Marcjswp
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Marcjswp
arista stop being an arse :rolleyes:

:hello:

Well he is.. he replies with stupid stuff. I see why people think he's a robot now


This is a Debate
Not a Game.


Stay On Topic.

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Marcjswp
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Marcjswp
arista stop being an arse :rolleyes:

:hello:

Well he is.. he replies with stupid stuff. I see why people think he's a robot now


This is a Debate
Not a Game.


Stay On Topic.
says the king of random pointless posts
stop trying to be a mod arista

[pinkmichk]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by arista
Yes but in Real Life
you can not change Power
like this.

:rolleyes: read the post arista he doesnt want to change things he know people give to who they want he is putting his view across as to why he doesnt agree i agree with shaun that its not right but thats how it is i dont expect to be able to change the worlds view


He does not agree
I am sure many would be the same.


Life In The City.

so you dont read the posts then cos i just said i dont agree either :rolleyes:

[Marc]

Originally posted by arista
Originally posted by Marcjswp
Originally posted by pinkmichk
Originally posted by Marcjswp
arista stop being an arse :rolleyes:

:hello:

Well he is.. he replies with stupid stuff. I see why people think he's a robot now


This is a Debate
Not a Game.


Stay On Topic.

LOL see!

[jaysa24]

I don't think in general one charity is more important or more worthy than another. What I do think is that people give to charities that they personally or someone close to them has been affected by. For example, a lot of people tell me that they don't give to cancer charities although they think its a fantastic cause, because they give to rnib (Royal national institute for the blind) (they have had no experience with cancer in the family whereas a family member is blind), which is fair enough.

In relation to animal charities getting more funding then childrens charities, really disturbs me. It just dosen't seem right.

[Benjamin]

Originally posted by arista
Yes but in Real Life
you can not change Power
like this.


He IS NOT trying to change it!

He is expressing his opinion of suprise that more money is donated to Animal Charities as opposed to Charities that deal with human beings welfare and health.


In which I agree. I THINK it is ridiculous that this is the case, I would rather see an abused child helped over an injured animal anyday.


But in general people support causes that have some direct connection to them or family members, but I can see why lots support animal charities because many people own and have lost pets so can relate to this to a higher degree than, say, a cancer Charity, where not as many are effected directly.



I myself donate to British Heart Foundation because of my Father and Brothers.

[Twilight]

IMO they is not a more important Charity,I really care for both animal charities and children's charities to me they are both the most important charities, but like i said before they are all important.