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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed
(Post 8346736)
I don't usually converse with you because you only ever seem to jump on here when your reassured your opinions will be backed but as usual, you are spouting nonsense, so I'll have my say.
Its not only the left who are (as you suggest) getting their knickers in a twist. Many Conservatives are outraged and have made public statements about that outrage.
Ismic fundamentalists are not allowed to preach from pulpits or even from prayer mats to justify what happened in Paris. If they get caught they will be arrested, named, shamed, possibly tagged and risk imprisonment and even deportation.
Most people on the Left, Right and Middle don't agree with Trump but Far Right do and from where I'm sitting, its the far right who are getting their knickers in a wad.
Most people on the Left, Right and Middle would happily see Islamic hate preachers deported.
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a) No one in their right mind is claiming that what Trump is saying is RIGHT. We have all condemned it as xenophobic, ludicrous and unworkable in one set of terms or another.
b) What most of us are saying and defending, is Trump's RIGHT to say what he has said under the laws of Free Speech in his OWN Country.
c) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have and are still, inciting Muslims to go out and kill British citizens and the citizens of other Western countries. Trump is not inciting Americans to go out and kill Muslims or behead them.
d) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have and are still, contemptuously 'laughing in the faces' of the British Government and the British people by mocking the deaths of British soldiers and proclaiming the terrorist scum behind 911 and other atrocities as heroes whilst they were LIVING here enjoying the freedoms and Social Security benefits w afforded them . Trump has done nothing similar or said anything even as remotely as offensive as these disgusting bastards, and Trump has not lived here or sponged off the British taxpayer whilst uttering his particular brand of xenophobia.
e) ALL the British resident Isamic Hate Preachers - past and present - have, and still do, scream their detestation of the British and Britain. Trump has not.
The points which I and certain others were raising was; that the hysterical clamour for Trump's head by certain 'factions', is far in excess of any reaction to these Islamic Hate Preachers racist, xenophobic, callous and murderous rantings, and there was NO petition of any kind to ban these bastards from our shores.
Trump is NOT the issue - the capital making by opportunist sinister factions who are anti-Democracy, anti-British, anti-Western, is the issue.
Trump is NOT a threat to the UK - UK Hating Islamic Preachers and Muslim radicalisers who are or have been resident here ARE a threat.
You cry about 'The Far Right' on these forums and complain that anyone against Trump is called by some; anti-patriotic or worse, but the sword swings both ways, and those of us who do nothing more than defend Trump's right to say what he said in his OWN country, are called racists, xenophobic or worse.
