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chuff me dizzy 26-08-2013 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimrod (Post 6333619)
Look at UKIP's increased popularity in recent years, is it because people are genuinely getting more xenophobic or more likely because we are constantly being told we can't say this and that, everything is a race issue yet when the roles are reversed (ie Abu Hamza situation) our government goes soft. If you tell people constantly that they can't say or do something yet allow others to do it then you get resentment and inevitably cause the very behaviour shift you're trying to prevent.

(I vote Conservative btw :D)

Wait until our Grandchildren are trying to get a home, dentist, job

DanaC 26-08-2013 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6333639)
Wait until our Grandchildren are trying to get a home, dentist, job

Meaning?

Kizzy 26-08-2013 01:26 PM

Come on dana you're not daft what do you think it means?

Jesus. 26-08-2013 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6333655)
Meaning?

At a guess, I would say she meant whatever you wanted it to mean.

lime 26-08-2013 01:31 PM

I can not believe people are defending ron by saying that it was totally acceptable in his era.I am a 41yr old Afrikaner who grew up during apartheid in SA where even my time in school was based on teaching me of how superior I was to "Kaffers".I doubt very much if I was to come on here making racist comments it would be acceptable because of the era I grew up in.

CaudleHalbard 26-08-2013 01:32 PM

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Originally Posted by lime (Post 6333671)
I can not believe people are defending ron by saying that it was totally acceptable in his era.I am a 41yr old Afrikaner who grew up during apartheid in SA where even my time in school was based on teaching me of how superior I was to "Kaffers".I doubt very much if I was to come on here making racist comments it would be acceptable because of the era I grew up in.

An excellent point, if I may say so. :)

DanaC 26-08-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6333660)
Come on dana you're not daft what do you think it means?

I think I know what it means. I hope I'm wrong though.

Ellen 26-08-2013 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lime (Post 6333671)
I can not believe people are defending ron by saying that it was totally acceptable in his era.I am a 41yr old Afrikaner who grew up during apartheid in SA where even my time in school was based on teaching me of how superior I was to "Kaffers".I doubt very much if I was to come on here making racist comments it would be acceptable because of the era I grew up in.

It was not acceptable 10 years ago that is why he was sacked. People are defending him because it was 10 years ago & some people did say things like that then.

MachoPoodle 26-08-2013 01:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimrod (Post 6333619)
Look at UKIP's increased popularity in recent years, is it because people are genuinely getting more xenophobic or more likely because we are constantly being told we can't say this and that, everything is a race issue yet when the roles are reversed (ie Abu Hamza situation) our government goes soft. If you tell people constantly that they can't say or do something yet allow others to do it then you get resentment and inevitably cause the very behaviour shift you're trying to prevent.

(I vote Conservative btw :D)

Exactly who is really stopping you from saying non-PC things, I'd truly like to know? Not being allowed to say what you want is NOT the same thing as speaking your mind and others in turn saying they don't think what you are saying is correct/ok/whatever.

Jimrod 26-08-2013 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by MachoPoodle (Post 6333687)
Exactly who is really stopping you from saying non-PC things, I'd truly like to know? Not being allowed to say what you want is NOT the same thing as speaking your mind and others in turn saying they don't think what you are saying is correct/ok/whatever.

Ok, example - Those (Muslim) protesters saying "Western soldiers burn in hell" and burning poppies on Remembrance Day (£50 fine) and recently some charity runners wearing Mankini's and having stones thrown at them because they were running through a "Muslim area" dressed "inappropriately". No punishment. I didn't realise we had areas outside of religious buildings where you had to behave differently in England for religious reasons. If we reversed the roles to being white people saying and doing the same things to brown people they would have been locked up for Racial Hatred crimes instantly. This is where resentment begins, in trying to be PC our Police/courts start to cause resentment, hence the swing in voters turning to Nationalistic parties.

DanaC 26-08-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimrod (Post 6333708)
Ok, example - Those (Muslim) protesters saying "Western soldiers burn in hell" and burning poppies on Remembrance Day (£50 fine) and recently some charity runners wearing Mankini's and having stones thrown at them because they were running through a "Muslim area" dressed "inappropriately". No punishment. I didn't realise we had areas outside of religious buildings where you had to behave differently in England for religious reasons. If we reversed the roles to being white people saying and doing the same things to brown people they would have been locked up for Racial Hatred crimes instantly. This is where resentment begins, in trying to be PC our Police/courts start to cause resentment, hence the swing in voters turning to Nationalistic parties.

Well...the people burning poppies on Remembrance day were fined. And you seem to be advocating some kind of ban on those muslim protestors saying western soldiers should burn in Hell.

If they were throwing stones at people then they should have been arrested. But then again, I have known some pretty nasty stuff go unchecked by police when the situation was pretty much in reverse of that.

MachoPoodle 26-08-2013 02:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Jimrod (Post 6333708)
Ok, example - Those (Muslim) protesters saying "Western soldiers burn in hell" and burning poppies on Remembrance Day (£50 fine) and recently some charity runners wearing Mankini's and having stones thrown at them because they were running through a "Muslim area" dressed "inappropriately". No punishment. I didn't realise we had areas outside of religious buildings where you had to behave differently in England for religious reasons. If we reversed the roles to being white people saying and doing the same things to brown people they would have been locked up for Racial Hatred crimes instantly. This is where resentment begins, in trying to be PC our Police/courts start to cause resentment, hence the swing in voters turning to Nationalistic parties.

If they were fined, they were punished, no? It's not like the same kind of thing doesn't get hurled at muslims, and not always being handled seriously. I definitely get how saying something like that and burning poppies is offensive, but it depends on backstory also. If it's a reaction to something British military have done in their country of origin, I suspect the story have two subjective sides. As for the charity runners, were the stone throwing offenders not punished because no one did anything, or because lack of evidence or what? That part needs some clarification, methinks.

Overall, I blame the fear mongering media more than anything else, for this shift in voting which is a trend pretty much all over Europe right now.

Kizzy 26-08-2013 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6333682)
I think I know what it means. I hope I'm wrong though.

I took it to mean at present we don't have the infrastructure to support immigration, is there an issue with that?

Cherie 26-08-2013 02:17 PM

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Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 6333639)
Wait until our Grandchildren are trying to get a home, dentist, job

oh God. Leaves the thread.

Jesus. 26-08-2013 02:22 PM

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_mc2dr4FR5U1r79k9c.gif

Kizzy 26-08-2013 02:26 PM

Is something funny, maybe you'd like to share it with the group?

DanaC 26-08-2013 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6333753)

*chuckles*

Northern Monkey 26-08-2013 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by MachoPoodle (Post 6333725)
If they were fined, they were punished, no? It's not like the same kind of thing doesn't get hurled at muslims, and not always being handled seriously. I definitely get how saying something like that and burning poppies is offensive, but it depends on backstory also. If it's a reaction to something British military have done in their country of origin, I suspect the story have two subjective sides. As for the charity runners, were the stone throwing offenders not punished because no one did anything, or because lack of evidence or what? That part needs some clarification, methinks.

Overall, I blame the fear mongering media more than anything else, for this shift in voting which is a trend pretty much all over Europe right now.

If you went to Pakistan and started burning the Quran in the street,What d'you think would happen to you?I bet it would be more than a £50 fine.When our authorities are soft on this kind of thing,People see the double standards and rebel against it,Hence UKIP doing well for themselves.Jimrod is right.

Kizzy 26-08-2013 02:39 PM

There's a lot of sniggering going on today.

Roy Mars III 26-08-2013 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6333742)
oh God. Leaves the thread.

in the future, whites won't even be able to get their teeth clean

Jesus. 26-08-2013 02:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 6333777)
in the future, whites won't even be able to get their teeth clean

We'll have to "black up" to get a Dr's appointment.

Roy Mars III 26-08-2013 02:55 PM

I was going to make a joke about wearing black face but then I remembered my username is not Jesus so I would probably get a infraction for it

Cherie 26-08-2013 02:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 6333777)
in the future, whites won't even be able to get their teeth clean

Looks like a future of white denture wearers is on the cards.

Jesus. 26-08-2013 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Roy Mars III (Post 6333809)
I was going to make a joke about wearing black face but then I remembered my username is not Jesus so I would probably get a infraction for it

That just places you in the 99%. Nothing wrong with being ordinary, Roy.

DanaC 26-08-2013 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 6333815)
Looks like a future of white denture wearers is on the cards.

i think they only come in white...


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