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Livia 23-05-2013 09:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6011360)
What?
Inform what he said couldn't be classified as "Semi True"

He has a point about how what the witnesses just saw, as horrible as it is.... is what kids and Women have to see everyday in other parts of the world... and alot of it due to UK Soldiers. He's right about the Government and Army involvement in certain countries. He's just an animal for feeling the need to prove his point the way he did and makes his points redundant.

Jesus Christ... Really... try to find your news from something other than social media.

thesheriff443 23-05-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6011555)
Losing a soldier as a result of battle is one thing. Having him hacked to death in a London street is another. I lost my husband as a result of wounds received in Afghanistan. That was hard enough to cope with, I will never get over it, and trust me, although you are aware of the risks you are never prepared to lose the man you love when you still have your whole life in front of you. However, what this soldier's family will have to deal with is beyond my comprehension. They've already seen pictures of his dead body plastered all over the news, flashed all round the Internet, and diminished by people like you who think people should get a grip and come to terms with this kind of atrocity.

livia im truly sorry you have had this happen to you, for the family of this soldier they will be devastated and for anyone who has lost a loved one thru being murdered.
but we live in a dangerous world.
the images of these events are not under any ones control anymore, and I cant see it changing.

thesheriff443 23-05-2013 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by Lee. (Post 6011558)
... So, did you find the April Jones case shocking?

no, we have seen many of these crimes now, and the sad thing is it wont be the last.

lime 23-05-2013 09:34 AM

The EDL are a strange bunch .I watched one being interviewed last night complaining about muslim women wearing the burka whilst he was wearing a balaclava

Vanessa 23-05-2013 09:39 AM

Looks like there's a Cobra meeting this morning. :suspect:

Lee. 23-05-2013 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 6011581)
no, we have seen many of these crimes now, and the sad thing is it wont be the last.

I find your lack of empathy sad

joeysteele 23-05-2013 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6011555)
Losing a soldier as a result of battle is one thing. Having him hacked to death in a London street is another. I lost my husband as a result of wounds received in Afghanistan. That was hard enough to cope with, I will never get over it, and trust me, although you are aware of the risks you are never prepared to lose the man you love when you still have your whole life in front of you. However, what this soldier's family will have to deal with is beyond my comprehension. They've already seen pictures of his dead body plastered all over the news, flashed all round the Internet, and diminished by people like you who think people should get a grip and come to terms with this kind of atrocity.

Really appropriate post Livia and full of fact and sensitivity too. I agree with all you have said.
For me, since this barbaric murder was made known last night, all I can think of is the truly horrific end to his life this Soldier had but to also just try to think too how his family must be feeling.

If this were my Brother, cousin friend or for that matter even anyone I just knew,I haven't a single idea how I would start to cope with this.
For his family it must now be a long running living nightmare of the worst possible scale.

(Shark Attack put feeling nauseous in their post above, that is also very appropriate,I feel that every time as more and more of this horror is made known).

Really strong thoughtful post Livia,very well said.

arista 23-05-2013 11:11 AM

The men - one of whom has been named as Michael Adeboloja - were arrested
following the hacking to death of a serving soldier in the
street in Woolwich, southeast London.
Sky's crime correspondent Martin Brunt
said Adeboloja is a 28-year-old Londoner of Nigerian descent.


http://news.sky.com/story/1094560/wo...-suspect-named

Kizzy 23-05-2013 11:21 AM

This man is just the type recruited into extremist groups easily influenced, disaffected angry young men.
They can then be coerced into acts of terrorism, this is the problem today, the 'enemy' could be anywhere in any guise.

arista 23-05-2013 11:31 AM

Loose women debate it live now

Kizzy 23-05-2013 11:35 AM

I would rather gouge out my eyes with rusty spoons than watch that.

arista 23-05-2013 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6011800)
I would rather gouge out my eyes with rusty spoons than watch that.


come on Kizzy

Janet Street Porter has a fair view

Lee. 23-05-2013 11:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6011800)
I would rather gouge out my eyes with rusty spoons than watch that.

Same. Make that red hot, rusty spoons in fact

arista 23-05-2013 11:39 AM

at least they talked about it

Kizzy 23-05-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6011808)
come on Kizzy

Janet Street Porter has a fair view

She used to be great...but even she is as bland as them now.

Omah 23-05-2013 12:14 PM

Woolwich attack: Suspects known to security services
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634468

Quote:

Both suspects in the killing of a serving soldier in London were known to security services, senior Whitehall sources have confirmed to the BBC.

One of the suspects is understood to be 28-year-old Muslim convert Michael Adebolajo, according to sources.

According to BBC sources, Mr Adebolajo comes from a devout Christian family but took up Islam after leaving college in 2001.

He was described as "bright and witty" when he was at college.
So, he was only 16 when he was "turned" .... :idc:

arista 23-05-2013 12:17 PM

[Suspect identified on internet forums
as Michael Adebolajo
He was filmed ranting with bloodied hands
shortly after the attack
Police raid house thought to be his father's
home in Lincolnshire village
Suspects in attack on a soldier are not
believed to be part of a terror group
Both have been arrested and are being
treated in separate hospitals after being shot by police
David Cameron: 'We will defeat violent extremism by standing together']

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...00_634x479.jpg

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2013/...56_634x681.jpg



Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2U7KUwf00


http://media.skynews.com/media/image...-1-626x352.jpg

Brother Leon 23-05-2013 12:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 6011560)
Jesus Christ... Really... try to find your news from something other than social media.

I don't have Twitter or FB. Use Twitter for football news.


Try again.

Omah 23-05-2013 12:41 PM

An extremist who was raised as a christian
 
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz2U7QGekwB

Quote:

Michael Adeboloja, 28, was born in Lambeth, south London, in 1985 to a Christian family of Nigerian descent.

At the age of 15 or 16 he started getting involved in Islam and started to speak about Jihadi ideas.

He joined several extremist groups - including Al Muhajiroun - that were banned in Britain and in 2003 converted to Islam, calling himself Mujaheed while at Marshalls Park School*.

Fearing he had become radicalised, his parents moved him away from Romford to a village in Lincolnshire.
Concerned parents, a comfortable home, a good school - where did it all go wrong for Adeboloja?

* OFSTED :

“The school effectively promotes students’ personal development, which results in a positive, inclusive school environment where staff and students work very well together……Students of all backgrounds get on well together because the school ethos effectively promotes tolerance and understanding…..Good relationships between students and between students and staff, good teacher subject knowledge and focused intervention for students falling behind in their learning are raising attainment”.

Jesus. 23-05-2013 12:46 PM

WTF has the guys school got to do with anything? The 9/11 bombers were graduates.

Extremism is not only the practice of the poor and uneducated.

Kizzy 23-05-2013 12:48 PM

I don't think this was part of an 'organised' terrorist plot, the fact it is so shocking is it has that 'amateur' feel to it.
A suicide bomber targeting buildings and planes we are aware of and are prepared for, these random acts of murder we are not.
COBRA will want to know how likely it is for this type of violence to happen again.

Omah 23-05-2013 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6011896)
WTF has the guys school got to do with anything? The 9/11 bombers were graduates.

Extremism is not only the practice of the poor and uneducated.

I also mentioned parents and home ..... :rolleyes:

Jack_ 23-05-2013 12:49 PM

An interesting take on the events

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22634095

Kizzy 23-05-2013 12:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6011896)
WTF has the guys school got to do with anything? The 9/11 bombers were graduates.

Extremism is not only the practice of the poor and uneducated.

He isn't saying he was poor or uneducated, he was radicalised at a impressionable age... brainwashed, this is how they work to infiltrate the UK.

Brother Leon 23-05-2013 12:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 6011757)
The men - one of whom has been named as Michael Adeboloja - were arrested
following the hacking to death of a serving soldier in the
street in Woolwich, southeast London.
Sky's crime correspondent Martin Brunt
said Adeboloja is a 28-year-old Londoner of Nigerian descent.


http://news.sky.com/story/1094560/wo...-suspect-named

Yeah. We get it dude. No wonder he done this. He's Nigerian :o


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