Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6011901)

An interesting take on the events

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6011183)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-tonight.html



As someone else said...his point is perfectly reasonable and I can totally understand the reasonings behind it, but an eye for an eye never works and this is truly just as disgusting as what he is condemning.

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 6011225)

Excuse me, but what point is "perfectly reasonable" ..... :conf:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6011242)

I'll respond to that point when you justify your racist remark a few pages back and explain to me how it's surprising that a black man is 'well spoken'.

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 6011332)

That's not what I said ..... :nono:

I said "The "fanatic" is surprisingly black and well-spoken" ..... :idc:

At 1930, the news program I was watching described a "terrorist" attack having taken place in Woolwich where one of the assailants (no ethnicity or race mentioned) had been shouting incoherently except for one phrase "Allahu Akbar”, which, AFAIK, is an Islamic phrase which Muslims use, meaning "God is great".

I was therefore surprised when, later, linked on this site to a video which showed a black man speaking English very well* (or with "reason") when most of Britain's Muslims are of Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi origin or ethnicity and such extremists as belong to those origin/ethnicities are frequently portrayed as being lacking in English language communication and presentation skills **.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100

* "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," said the Woolwich attacker who spoke with a London accent. "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same."



** See Parviz Khan link in post #281.

Now explain your remark, as I requested, please ..... :pipe:

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 6011349)

http://www.channel4.com/news/woolwic...-previous-plot



Parviz Khan taught sons: This is how you slit the throats of your enemies

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-taught-294158



:sad:

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6011905)

He isn't saying he was poor or uneducated, he was radicalised at a impressionable age... brainwashed, this is how they work to infiltrate the UK.

Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 6011913)

Keep seeing this guy when I see the second person...

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...re_Partlow.jpg

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6011914)

That's nonsense, Kizzy.

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6011914)

That's nonsense, Kizzy.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 6011920)

It actually isn't jesus, and watching jacks clip I see that the guy has a similar stance on it.
If you don't agree with me fine, I won't suggest your comments are nonsense and would appreciate if you do the same.

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6011928)

As you interjected in a conversation that wasn't yours to begin with, then maybe that should identify how you could avoided having your point identified as nonsense to begin with.

School and family has nothing to do with radicalisation.

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6011928)

As you interjected in a conversation that wasn't yours to begin with, then maybe that should identify how you could avoided having your point identified as nonsense to begin with.

School and family has nothing to do with radicalisation.

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6011943)

Bye then.

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 6011942)

IYO ..... :shrug:

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6011943)

Bye then.

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6011948)

Please explain the 9/11 hijackers to me then?

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 6011956)

I thought you were history ..... :laugh2:

Originally Posted by Jesus. (Post 6011967)

I was saying goodbye to Kizzy who said she was leaving the thread.

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 6011971)

So am I ..... :xyxwave:

Originally Posted by Vanessa (Post 6011963)

I haven't watched the video yet. I can't bring myself to. I just don't understand how people could do this. :(

Originally Posted by Marc (Post 6011556)

I feel sorry for those in the hospital having to treat these evil monsters. Must be difficult to want to keep these guys alive or treat them

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6011183)

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/ukne...n-tonight.html


As someone else said...his point is perfectly reasonable and I can totally understand the reasonings behind it, but an eye for an eye never works and this is truly just as disgusting as what he is condemning.

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 6011225)

Excuse me, but what point is "perfectly reasonable" ..... :conf:

Originally Posted by Jack_ (Post 6011242)

I'll respond to that point when you justify your racist remark a few pages back and explain to me how it's surprising that a black man is 'well spoken'.

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 6011332)

That's not what I said ..... :nono:

I said "The "fanatic" is surprisingly black and well-spoken" ..... :idc:

At 1930, the news program I was watching described a "terrorist" attack having taken place in Woolwich where one of the assailants (no ethnicity or race mentioned) had been shouting incoherently except for one phrase "Allahu Akbar”, which, AFAIK, is an Islamic phrase which Muslims use, meaning "God is great".

I was therefore surprised when, later, linked on this site to a video which showed a black man speaking English very well* (or with "reason") when most of Britain's Muslims are of Pakistani/Indian/Bangladeshi origin or ethnicity and such extremists as belong to those origin/ethnicities are frequently portrayed as being lacking in English language communication and presentation skills **.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-22624100

* "We must fight them as they fight us. An eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth," said the Woolwich attacker who spoke with a London accent. "I apologise that women have had to witness this today, but in our land our women have to see the same."



** See Parviz Khan link in post #281.

Now explain your remark, as I requested, please ..... :pipe:

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 6011349)

http://www.channel4.com/news/woolwic...-previous-plot



Parviz Khan taught sons: This is how you slit the throats of your enemies

http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news...-taught-294158



:sad:

Originally Posted by Omah (Post 6011910)

I'm glad you're back Jack :

I've been waiting for your response ..... :dance2:

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6012169)

Does anyone feel Muslim religious leaders need to be a bit more vocal in their condemnation of acts like these. Maybe the time has come for the Muslim communities to stand up a bit more and protest at the way their religion is used by extremists who carry out this type of atrocity.

Non Muslim British people go to great pains to distance normal peace loving Muslims from the maniac types who carry out these sorts of attack, but maybe now all Muslims from all walks of life should rise up with one voice and say enough is enough.

Perhaps the Islamic centres should look more closely at the style of teaching in Mosques and the truer beliefs of some of their Imams.

It would be nice if all religions (Incl Islam) stood together to condemn this type of barbarity once and for all and re-iterate that peace and love are the only way to move forward.

Or am I being too idealistic....????

Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 6012169)

Does anyone feel Muslim religious leaders need to be a bit more vocal in their condemnation of acts like these. Maybe the time has come for the Muslim communities to stand up a bit more and protest at the way their religion is used by extremists who carry out this type of atrocity.

Non Muslim British people go to great pains to distance normal peace loving Muslims from the maniac types who carry out these sorts of attack, but maybe now all Muslims from all walks of life should rise up with one voice and say enough is enough.

Perhaps the Islamic centres should look more closely at the style of teaching in Mosques and the truer beliefs of some of their Imams.

It would be nice if all religions (Incl Islam) stood together to condemn this type of barbarity once and for all and re-iterate that peace and love are the only way to move forward.

Or am I being too idealistic....????