Gee no he doesnt smoke, so no it wouldnt gain him anything would it, but lets see, cider noirin lap, cider sophie washing, should I go on? Can you see the pattern emerging, incidentally the 4th word of your post is fairly insulting, if you want to see a ****** try a mirror pal.

Well said totally agree with you:thumbs:

Well as you had'nt posted on this thread before i said it how can you be offended?
Are you trying to do a charlie and look good in front of the others being all pc?

from who exactly? they were not given to the smokers in specifically....

THEY WAS FREDDIES CIGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
freddie don't mind so what's the big deal??

Doesnt matter whose they were he had no right to take them and hide them it shows just what a control freak he is. And he should have had more sense

If he found a packet of sweets outside a primary school would he just leave them for the kids or would he wait and offer them to a little girl?

My guess is the second.

So now marcus is a peado??
I think that's a little harsh on him

There has been a lot of noise on this forum about this. Here are two facts:

Marcus does not smoke
Marcus could never hope to trade cigarettes

And here is some speculation:

Firstly, Marcus was planning to gift them to Bea exactly as he said he was. This is by far the most likely option as I think it is fairly plain that he had already signposted this by mentioning that he was going to give something to her, as he pointed out in the argument and nobody, as far as I am aware, disputed.

Secondly, it is possible that Marcus was planning to reveal them after everyone had run out of cigarettes so that everyone would be "grateful". This would fit at least one aspect of Marcus' personality.

Either way, in Marcus' world he undoubtedly thought he was doing something "positive". Although I think whether he is right about that is highly dubious.

Beyond that we do not really know very much. Either way the reaction in the House and on this forum has been predictably hysterical.

On a final note, two more observations. First, it is unclear to me whether this is in any way as bad as unilaterally requisitioning evicted Housemates' food stocks, as we have seen done on at least one occasion. Second, it certainly is not comparable, morally, to taking more than one's fair share of food supplies for personal consumption (although it is still unclear to me whether this has actually occurred and who is responsible).

Your words, not mine. Its a control thing isnt it? But saying that, it wouldnt surprise me.

Agreed:thumbs:

From a female perspective - I for one, would not like to meet Marcus on a dark night in the middle of nowhere! Give me Lisa anyday!!

Technically Marcus could have done that although it would have been more appropriate to say he was taking them instead of the sneaky way of asking if everyone else had some and then NOT saying he was taking them,
but,
I think Charlie really explained it comparing it to Hira and drink. Hira could have done the same thing. Taken x-many cans of cider as 'her share',
but,
Hira did not do that. She doesn't drink so obviously she allows the drinks to go to the drinkers to then split up accordingly.

The real problem is that Marcus the intellectually dishonest wimp has to swerve and sleaze and slime and pout and make little 'angry boy faces' full of insulting little excuses, make it sound as if he was wronged, be annoyingly coy and dishonest,
and,
make up phony stories that are really just insulting to the intelligence of everyone else.

well that's bloody obvious...if your going to be attacked by someone better it be a old woman then a big hairy man who does karate??

I don't think Marcus "made up phony stories". Whatever the merits of his actions I think he told the plain truth when the cigarettes were discovered.

Marcus stated clearly on last nites h/l show
" I don't nick things just for nuthing" Slang. to trick, cheat, or defraud:

"They were gonna be a suprise for you (Bea) and now you've spoilt it"

I really don't think his actions can be defended as clear and transparent or even remotely upright but it really funny to watch people try :laugh2:

Why not admit you like him and will brush aside his errors and defects but to defend them is laughable :laugh:

I was referring to 'character' as opposed to comparing the two as a potential threat! Although - Lisa's appearance - could be perceived as threatening by some!! She can look a little intimidating!!

I think that is why a lot of the blokes don't like her - not because of her bitchng - she is not the worst - but because they don't find her attractive! Biased nonsense - particulary as Marcus fans have had the nerve to accuse his 'haters' of that!!!!

Hiss , snap hiss , like an animal cornered and knows its caught, eh rick?