Why do you think that chap was there, taking aside your pro-homosexual bias?

men are men, they have a whole different genetic and sexual make-up to women. men do not need romance etc to get sexually aroused, they can turn on in an instant. men and women's sexuality compliment each other men and men do not.

95 % of the population are not gay and there is a very good reason for that.

I dont know why he was there but there was no evidence of drug taking or anything suspicious surrounding Stephens death which is what Jan Moir was implying and she was implying it because he was gay. His sexuality has nothing to do with how he died so the rest I couldnt give a ****

"men do not need romance etc to get sexually aroused" I think you will find women don't either. What does it matter if gately had a 3'some and a smoke? Are you saying he got so stoned he passed out and got bummed to death? Married straight couples do the same thing so they are just as "sordid" Not that I think having a 3'some is sordid. Going behind your partners back is.

Anyway, Jan Moir is most likely a child molester. I have absoloutly no proof to back this claim up, but it is my opinion. I shall see if i can get that in the Mail.

So whats the official TIBB verdict here, did God, knowing full well what would happen, sprinkle the spliff with a hyperactive, fast acting and devastating immunity system destroying virus undetectable to medical professions?

And then did this spliff somehow end up, ash side up, logged up his ass?

Just wondering. Curiosity is a curious beast.

Enlighten us. I could do with a healthy laugh before I go off to shag a man and smoke pot.

This guy (Leathertrumpet) sees the world through rose coloured glasses.... 95% what are you on about dude? If your gonna talk crap at least try and get a near enough statistic...

yeah thats about 4 years out of date.

lets just say that there is a big neon sign in ones anus saying "one way traffic only"

dont blame me, blame Darwin.


Personally I think homosexuality is a lot to do with nurture than nature.

yes, a lot could have happened statistically in 4 years

:whistle:

Well what you are trying to use as a statistic is 4 years out of date therfore doesnt apply for now 2009 not 2005.

You can appreciate that this is not a yearly collated statistic. 4 years ago is a very good source for data of this nature.

For your slating of someone who died of natural causes just because he was Gay? yeah I appreciate that.

Okay my thoughts on this thread.

1. Jan Moir's an idiot but I do hope the article hurts the Daily Mail badly I hate that newspaper.

2. LeatherTrumpet must be a medical and forensic genius as well as psychic and having the ability to turn invisible and to teleport in order to draw his conclusions. With powers like that you should be stopping bank robberies and saving the poor dear Trumpet not bashing a dead man's reputation.

In conclusion Mr Trumpet, there's STACKS of evidence against your argument you might as well just say that you hate homosexuality as it's fairly abvious, like Ms Moir that you are a raging homophobe.

What a ridiculous argument, evident by the fact that it's a hole, really, and that's about it. Waste comes out of it, but some men enjoy sticking there parts up it for pleasure. It gives them pleasure. They are happy. I am happy. What do I care.

I suppose your against fellatio, too then? And pretty much everything else sex related that has no direct involvement with creating a child?

Or are certain acts [that you enjoy] allowed in that whacky world of yours?

If God prevented Homosexuality from ever existing, which he easily could, after all, he is as I am told 'da man' then he would not have to go to the trouble of killing them off in flats in Spain.

Well said.

You are arguing against a point that you think I made rather than the one made, probably because you are very defensive. No one denies that what you say occurs but that practice is dangerous and causes many diseases as the body is not designed for that. That is a reality.

Go to any doctor and say that you would like to engage in anal sex with your girlfriend, can the doc explain what risks are involved. I dont think many would like the answer.

The God example is the same futile "why does God allow pain and suffering" argument that was put to bed philosophically in the 1980s

aha

the homophobe accusation. I wondered when that would rear its ugly 2009 head. I guess now it would seem.

:nono:

Leathertrumpet, if you think you are right then why has nobody agreed with you?

You are let's face it. You've stood against Logic, fact and reason with your fingers in your ears going 'LALALALA!!'. You haven't provided any relevant facts or figures (and no, information that was relevent 4 years ago is not relevant today). You're argument is basically that he was a promiscous gay man because a friend slept over and that his homosexuality is the reason he's dead. Although both points have been disproved.

He died of an undiagnosed heart condition, not of STD's or aids or drug overdoses bought on by a masochistic homosexual lifestyle or any other crap you have to spout.

Right about what?

The whole argument you are trying (I say trying because you are failing miserably, using staistics that are dated) put across. All of your points have been disproven, I think you should just accept the fact that the man died of natural causes.

I have never argued (check thread) that anything killed him. The stats I gave you are the best available and since everyone else on this thread would have made up a much higher figure then they are key to the thread and to the debunking that the figure is 20 % etc..

All I asked was what was the chap doing there and if he was there for the blindingly obvious reason, that is not very "married" in my eyes.

Dont let you emotions or the fact that you think you have the moral high ground cloud your posts.

If anyone thinks they have the higher Moral ground it's you and thats pretty clear for anyone to see when they look back in this thread.

effectively you have just posted

"no, YOU smell"

nice:hugesmile:

But it's already been said that they were friends and he stayed the night in the spare bedroom. This has been said but you're the one insisting that they were upto no good on the grounds that they're gay. IF something was going on it would have come out by now the media are like vultures they would have reported on it if something happened.