Free Tibb... et!

(sorry)

You know I'm Bisexual and have been in this city's gay subculture for the past four or so years, right?

Oops.

I'm not denying huge drug use exists in the gay subculture, but that's not to say being gay = drug use. Lots of gays do tonnes of drugs, but so do lots of clubbers in general. The gay subculture you are reffering to fits into the whole clubbing spectrum in general also. A lot of gays tend to be these clubbing party animal types. Link the drug use to them as people, not because of the fact that they are gay.

And again, my point was you were wrong about Stephen Gatley. No Cocaine. No Meth. Something you keep ignoring me on.

Silly tool.

No, I don't know that but that is worse. You know better and are trying to argue against something you know to be true.

Now we have the truth. Was that really so hard?
You didn't need to try and fight that simple truth until now.

Nobody, not you, not me, not any readers.. absolutely nobody thought that anyone was actually trying to say that each and every gay.. all gays always do drugs.

When I say 'Tea is a big part of British culture and they really love drinking plenty of tea' there is NOBODY who thinks I'm trying to convince them that every single Brit does drink tea twice a day.
Come on.
It's like saying Christians often sit in Pews but link it to them as people and not Christians.

Ignoring what?
I asked if anyone had the backstory on it and you told me. Great. Yes, thanks. Wow.
It may not even answer my question but at least it does about that particular weekend (and what tests can detect).

So here we see the name-calling hatred come out.
Hatefulness, spite, name-calling and intolerance towards heterosexuals is another thing rampant in the gay subcultures.

Not hatefulness, spite, name calling because your a heterosexual, but because your a homophobe. And you try and victimize yourself?, you complete windowlicker. You can shine the sh!t off my shoes.

I'm all for freedom of speech, but when you're writing for a newspaper that's read by millions it places you in a position of power, and as we all know with great power comes great responsiblity. Geek alert. But yeah, the editor should have taken a look at this hatchet job and told the person writing it to ease off with the fear mongering and vitriol or otherwise they can start a new career - ranting their bile on a street corner somewhere.

At the end of the day she, like all of us has freedom of speech. She's an unpleasant woman who I disagree heartilly with but it was the Editor's choice to print it, just be glad most people are (rightfully) outraged rather then agreeing with her.

Her reputation's in the mud now and people look at her with hatred, she didn't need her knuckles rapped by that comittee since her career's probably all but ruined now (and rightfully so).

And what exactly are the spokesman for, racial and sexual intolerance, ignorant claims backed up by personal abuse or simply "Trolls R Us"?

Of course it is hard to pin them down if you dont look for them and just pull some random number out of the air and claim it to be fact. Who commissioned this "better research" the university of el proximo (no dirty filthy ***** or raghead muslims allowed)?

No you just like playing the "let me make some garbage claim and anyone who argues against my warped point of view obviously has something wrong with them" game.

Another big one there, you dont have any friends.


I didnt realise being Gay had to have a point.

I would recommend you practice what you preach, not the hate filled garbage, just GO LEARN!

I'm a representative from 'Reality Check Worldwide'.


Wrong.
It is difficult to get a 'scientific study of exacting nature' (as one might say) on illegal activity.
For that matter it's not easy getting reliable surveys on who has had gay sex, how often and if they identify themselves as 'gay' (and even what that means),
but,
the illegal activity 'confession' leaves question.
One of the reasons we 'know what we don't know' is because (for example) a direct in-person questionnaire can get you some much much lower numbers than an anonymous poll,
and,
actually there again are other factors.

But you can actually find some of these online and by 'better ones' will be the ones giving explanations about why and how they arrived at 20 times the drug usage among homosexuals.
(besides saying 'an online poll' or 'survey of gay right activists' etc)



Well in my case its more than just relying on some studies published online. In fact my claims come from 2 other angles:
- For years I lived in an area that would be deemed a 'gay district' by some and lived among, worked with and befriended many a flaming gay. I also got first-hand the spite, contempt and hatred of some,
and,
certainly had close friends and family.
Our city actually could add a 'boast' in that our local 'gay community' was also a multicultural and 'international' gay community.

And even further along in education is that part of my job once included being among the first people who tried to find out just what exactly was the gay population,
what did they like,
what did they do...
...and yes you guessed 'marketing'. At the time there really wasn't any good answers. We had to try and 'find the gays' and more importantly find out what they wanted to buy!
In fact our jobs depended on this so no 'rubbish games' allowed on that one.

You didn't?
Well realize it this way; simply imagine someone did not desire to or actually did have gay sex.
Would you consider them gay anymore?
This is not complicated. the desire for 'gay sex' IS really the 'minimum requirement' for you to even call a person a homosexual in the first place.


How would you know the difference?

Plenty of straight people don't like sex but are still fundamentally straight [I.E. Attracted to the opposite sex]. Does that make them not straight?

That didn't answer my question.
You answer mine first instead of resorting to trick "If __ doesnt' ___ then does that not make ___" and pretending like the 'answer' to that also 'answers yours' too.

Guy doesn't desire sex with another man and never does.
Is he gay or not.
Yes or no.
Answer that and you can work on other peoples medical problems later.

He could be gay. I don't know this non existent character you have dreamed up, you silly tit. Ever hear of Asexuals? People who have no desire for sex? Well they still have sexual feelings often. It is entirely possible that plenty of gay people exist who don't wish to have gay sex just like plenty of straight people exist who don't want to have sex. These are facts.

Medical problems? What one earth are you talking about? Is that to suggest people who have no desire for sex suffer from a medical condition?

Your something, aren't you.

And which "world" is it that you live in?

More unsubstantiated crap from the crapmeister(thats you by the way). You going to come back with the usual, "go find", instead of actually providing any sort of link? After all if its there and you have seen it, you would have it in your browser history. But no, no doubt there will be some ridiculous comment or arguement against that.


We covered that one already.

I take it that job didnt last too long for you then?

Is it feasible that a person who considers himself Gay decides to become celibate at some point in his life? Does this then make that person straight? After all they arent wanting Gay sex.

Unlike yourself I can tell the difference between my arse and my elbow/shit and shinola*.

*Delete as applicable

As Roy Hattersely said on QT last night. Newspaper columnists say controversial things, that is their job. deal with it.