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arista 18-03-2010 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Karl. (Post 3097797)
So they mixed Alchohol and that drug?
how stupid


The were not Stupid
They lacked the Education on this
and why mixing booze with it is a Danger to far.

Stu 18-03-2010 01:46 PM

They are stupid. If they lacked education why did they hoover it up with some booze? Do your research on the web and anyone will tell you never to mix it. Besides, it's just common sense. Don't mix booze with untested drugs.

xDramatick 18-03-2010 01:47 PM

Don't touch the stuff myself but I know LOADS of people who do it :/

Niamh. 18-03-2010 01:56 PM

Personally I think they should regulate it rather than ban it so that people know what is in it and how they should use it. If they ban it, a replacement will spring up in it's place in no time.

arista 18-03-2010 02:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 3097877)
They are stupid. If they lacked education why did they hoover it up with some booze? Do your research on the web and anyone will tell you never to mix it. Besides, it's just common sense. Don't mix booze with untested drugs.


It was a New Area for them.
Relaxed from the Booze first.


Unlucky.

Deadly Mixture.



On Ch5's Wright Stuff
this morning he put up a Question
of should your child take Extasy or Meth...
Most said Extasy.

arista 18-03-2010 02:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Niamhxo (Post 3097885)
Personally I think they should regulate it rather than ban it so that people know what is in it and how they should use it. If they ban it, a replacement will spring up in it's place in no time.


One Mother on a phone in
this morning said her 17 year old daughter
justified using it as she bought is in a Legal Shop.



So a Ban is Needed now.

arista 18-03-2010 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darenn (Post 3097878)
Don't touch the stuff myself but I know LOADS of people who do it :/

Thats Good News
You Funky Devil.

Niamh. 18-03-2010 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3097900)
One Mother on a phone in
this morning said her 17 year old daughter
justified using it as she bought is in a Legal Shop.



So a Ban is Needed now.

Well that's all well and good Arista but you and I both know that people will continue to buy illegal drugs and if mephadrone is made illegal more will take it's place, nothing is ever going to get rid of these things so It would make more sense to try and regulate it so people know how to take it more safely and also so that nothing terrible is going in to it

Stu 18-03-2010 02:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3097900)
One Mother on a phone in
this morning said her 17 year old daughter
justified using it as she bought is in a Legal Shop.



So a Ban is Needed now.

No, that's just a good reason why regulation is better than a ban. You know what happens when it gets banned? Criminals make money from it, the stuff's useage will either stay the same or go through the roof, and nobody will be any the wiser.

arista 18-03-2010 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 3097950)
No, that's just a good reason why regulation is better than a ban. You know what happens when it gets banned? Criminals make money from it, the stuff's useage will either stay the same or go through the roof, and nobody will be any the wiser.


The mother of that 17year old Girl
will be better off
as it would be Illegal and then she can chuck her Daughter out
until she can be clean from the Illegal gear.


At this time
that mother is shocked as her Daughter
gets it from a Legal shop
so she can do nothing as its within the law.

Stu 18-03-2010 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3097985)
The mother of that 17year old Girl
will be better off
as it would be Illegal and then she can chuck her Daughter out
until she can be clean from the Illegal gear.


At this time
that mother is shocked as her Daughter
gets it from a Legal shop
so she can do nothing as its within the law.

So the daughter is better off buying Mephedrone from a dealer down a back alley - funding criminal activity - than buying it from a shop where they can offer advice and useage instructions?

What warped logic. People are going to use Mephedrone no matter what. You may as well regulate it and make it safer.

Regulated stores will provide the clean chemical after an ID request.

Drug dealers will sell a cut chemical to twelve year olds.

Which would you rather?

Shasown 18-03-2010 03:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3097985)
The mother of that 17year old Girl
will be better off
as it would be Illegal and then she can chuck her Daughter out
until she can be clean from the Illegal gear.


At this time
that mother is shocked as her Daughter
gets it from a Legal shop
so she can do nothing as its within the law.

Life is so black and white for you aint it?

The mother could insist her daughter not use a substance like that, if it bothers her so much. Whether its legal or illegal.

Glue is legal to buy, doesnt mean its okay to sniff it does it?

Tom4784 18-03-2010 03:26 PM

I agree with the notion of regulation and I can't say anything more then what's been said really.

When it comes to legal highs and drugs as a whole I think Stu's points have been excellent. I've never touched drugs and I rarely drink but I think it's silly to brand someone idiotic because they choose to do so.

Stu 18-03-2010 03:27 PM

For the record I wouldn't touch Meph with a barge poll myself. However I am not stupid enough to think that I have moral authority to stop others from doing what they want to do with the neurons they were born with.

arista 18-03-2010 03:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Shasown (Post 3097993)
Life is so black and white for you aint it?

The mother could insist her daughter not use a substance like that, if it bothers her so much. Whether its legal or illegal.

Glue is legal to buy, doesnt mean its okay to sniff it does it?



Hey hon
it needs to be a Line that is Clear and Drawn.

And you are Wrong about the Mother
it is her House she says what Goes.
End Of.



Life In The City.

Shasown 18-03-2010 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by arista (Post 3098073)
Hey hon
it needs to be a Line that is Clear and Drawn.

And you are Wrong about the Mother
it is her House she says what Goes.
End Of.



Life In The City.

Believe me I aint a hon. As you say it is her house so she should just tell her daughter not to use it shouldnt she? Am i missing something here, your logic and change in line is almost infantile.

As I said the mother could insist her daughter not use it. How am I wrong?

you are the one who said

Quote:

At this time
that mother is shocked as her Daughter
gets it from a Legal shop
so she can do nothing as its within the law.

arista 18-03-2010 05:04 PM

OK Shasown , never a hon.

The Mother tried to tell her
but that Daughter had the 'It's Legal' banner.

Ban it
as schools also have to give it back to kids
as those kids say it is Legal, as well.

Stu 18-03-2010 05:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 3097990)
So the daughter is better off buying Mephedrone from a dealer down a back alley - funding criminal activity - than buying it from a shop where they can offer advice and useage instructions?

What warped logic. People are going to use Mephedrone no matter what. You may as well regulate it and make it safer.

Regulated stores will provide the clean chemical after an ID request.

Drug dealers will sell a cut chemical to twelve year olds.

Which would you rather?

*ahem*

arista 18-03-2010 05:16 PM

No that Young Girl
will not buy it Down a Alley.
She will grow up and stay lucky in her mums home,
Stu.

Stu 18-03-2010 05:42 PM

Ignoring my arguments.

arista 18-03-2010 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 3098298)
Ignoring my arguments.

No
I see life in a better way, that is all..

But from Ch4 News Live
they confirmed a Man in Sussex
bought it from the Legal Internet site
and The Toxic Tests proved he Died from the Legal High Meow.

Stu 18-03-2010 06:27 PM

Methamphetamine and Mephedrone are two different drugs. You have no idea what you are talking about.

Again, people are going to use Mephedrone anyway. What's better, buying it clean with proper information and dosage instructions in a regulated world or buying it impure from a drug dealer?

That's a straight question. It would be lovely if I could get a straight answer.

arista 18-03-2010 06:32 PM

The Ban is on the Way.

The Proper Dealers get it from Corrupt China

The Ban is the Best way Forward
you are not in our nation so you will be OK.

Stu 18-03-2010 06:34 PM

You avoided the question.

Again.

arista 18-03-2010 06:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot (Post 3098461)
You avoided the question.

Again.


Thats because I see that Drug as Illegal
before it even is.


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