Some guys will never change and always attempt to shift the blame! Of course any girl that doesn't protect herself is stupid - but exactly the same applies to the guys! Both DO have equal responsibility - however hard some boys will try to wriggle out of it!

As they say - if you do the crime - you do the time - simple as!

So do women!

Its your bodies. Take responsibility for it. INSIST he wears a condom or refuse to let him penetrate you. You know a damn sight more about pregnancy than men do. Men aren't the ones who will spend 9 months getting fat and throwing up.

If a woman decides she wants a baby by a guy she will get one even if she has to mount him when he's having a horny dream! I grew up in a house of females so I know just how manipulative they can be when it comes to men. Hell yes!

And STOP having babies by lousy, no good losers! Then maybe your child will actually grow up in a stable, loving, protective family. If not, they may go join a gang to find that. Which is my point.

Bull! More excuses! No-one forces you to have sex! If you do - just make sure you don't pass on your genes if you don't want to! Same applies to her - but just because she carries the baby - doesn't mean you can opt out of responsibility!

Boys (and that is true of those that use such excuses) have been using that excuse since time begun - but nowadays society is better informed and less accepting of such lame excuses!

If women need to make better choices - so do men - about where they put it and when - not to mention what with! :hugesmile:

Sticking !!!!!!! at the end of every sentences doesn't enforce your points, dear. Just makes you seem like a screaming feminist!

Can a man terminate a pregnancy? No.

So the woman has the power to rectify her mistake but a man doesn't. Yeah, very equal!

Women make babies. Men just add a magical drop of juice.

Exactly! Because they can't terminate the pregnancy - all the more reason to exercise good judgement at the point of conception! You do have a say - don't claim you don't - that is why you have to protect yourself. Common sense - unless, of course, the little grey cells are absent!

Surely it should be down to both to ensure tommy tadpole doesnt meet ena egg. And if because of stupidity, selfishness, or the fact the cling film ripped, then both of the prospective parents should fess up then sit down and discuss it like reasonable adults, i mean they did okay at playing the adult game that got them in that predicament in the first place.

Women hold all the cards, most of the time they choose their partner, they can tell the man to wear a johnny (can you imagine a man saying no and carrying on?) and in fact we need to actually have an oral contract with the women, with her actually saying out loud we may have sex.
I'm not saying it's a one way street but the women almost always controls the situation and if she gets pregnant than a fair share of the blame falls on her.
And she should be on the pill too, why have just one safeguard?
And what about the morning after pill? Infact she has 6 months to ponder it and you're judging men for a few seconds?
To come up with a stupid analogy if I was doing a bank job with a friend and I was most likely to get caught than I'd be wearing the ski mask
And you seem to ignore the number of women who lie to men and say they are on the pill.
http://www.netdoctor.co.uk/sex_relat...ptivepills.htm
The pill is as effective as the condom against pregnancy.

I quite agree - both need to use protection! Just as women have been told for decades not to trust men - men shouldn't trust women! Casual sex is an individual choice - as long as both parties have enough sense to protect themselves. Unfortunately - some guys refuse to see that and constantly try to lay all the blame at her door.

Yes. I dread to think how many babies have been born out of that particular lie.

Women choose Motherhood. But many men do not choose Fatherhood and get dragged there against their will. Via deception.

You really don't get it do you! Yes some women do lie about being on the pill - so therefore any intelligent man would know not to trust what women say when having casual sex! Use a rubber - that way you have CHOICE! You are as good as choosing fatherhood - if you don't protect yourself!

Oh Wombai, you're like the Energizer bunny. Without the cuteness.

Ive made my point. Women need to stop getting sperminated by losers. Only then will we get back to having family units that actually give stability and security to kids. Which will help prevent them going off the rails.

Bad boys make bad Fathers. And have bad genes too.

this has gone wildly off topic.
Let's just agree it takes two to tango

Iv'e made my point too - men need to take responsibility for their actions and stop irrisponsibly planting their seed all over the place! Only then will we get back to having family units that provide stability and security to kids etc!

Sense at last!

Go for the classy, hard working men who work hard for a living! who are big built and sexyyyyyyyyyyy <3

Rock out with your cock out!

But make sure you wear a rubber duck!

Not the way I would put it - but amounts to the same thing! :joker:

Unfortunatley -some just don't get it! :hugesmile: