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Gstar 02-09-2012 11:34 PM

I wasn't even gonna watch the noms reveal on BOTS today, luckily I did.

Please put "spoiler" in the thread title next time

Silent Scream 02-09-2012 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 5459813)
When did I say I was comparing the 2 situations? I was highlighting another example of blatent manipulation that has happily gone ignored. All in my opinion of course. But its not fair that Julie isnt being scalded for 'manipulation' when others have been just as worse and remaining 1 of the favourites.

Sorry but 'first person I have truley loved in 5 years' if you believed that and didnt think he was trying to fool people thinking he truely fell in love with the girl after 1-2 WEEKS (!!!!!!!!!!!!!) then you are crazy. He was trying to control Danica by forcing himself onto her, that didnt happen, then milked sympathy from it and got people to feel sorry for him.

Yes Danica have mixed signals (touching nips!) but when she laid it down straight he still carried on and made her feel incredibly awkward. I did think they were both bad as each other but in hindsight Mike was trying to manipulate her very much in the house, when that didnt work, he emotionally manipulated the other HMs and some of the public onto his side.

Okay, this is a classic example of two people watching the same thing and coming to completely different conclusions. I don't think Mike manipulated Danica in any way, shape or form. She gave him all the signals and he fell for it.

He absolutely did not force himself on her. For me, that was Ashley with Rhian. She was friendly with him and he took it upon himself to throw himself at her relentlessly when she clearly was not interested at all.

Danica dumped Mike when she found out Lorenzo was a real prince. 'p-p-p-p-palaces?'. She's a waste of space.

I have no time at all for Mike and he has come across as an egotistical self-obsessed twat (probably because he is one) but he has never turned one HM against another. He has never said one thing to a HM then something completely different about them to someone else.

He is totally out of Julie's league when it comes to manipulation and sordid abuse of people's trust, people who believe you when you say you love them blissfully ignorant to the poison you spread about them behind their back. Sorry, but to me she really is vile and the way she has targeted Colleen is nothing short of shameful.

She even tried to make her supposed best friend in the house (Julian) think the chants could have been aimed at him knowing full well they were aimed at her. She is vile.

Mike is a twonk, but harmless. Ashley would be in prison if he wasn't a sportsman. Lorenzo is a bore. Colleen wants everyone to love her and is also boring but HAS been victimised by Julie. Martin is a bore as well, Harvey is a deluded twat who thinks it's okay for men to be unfaithful and play around but not women... none of them are perfect but Julie stands out a million miles as having a truly vindictive, nasty personality, someone who will walk all over anyone to get what she wants, nobody else in that house compares to her.

Sorry, rant over lol.

billy123 02-09-2012 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Germyle (Post 5459825)
I wasn't even gonna watch the noms reveal on BOTS today, luckily I did.

Please put "spoiler" in the thread title next time

Its hardly a spoiler if its already being shown on national tv. :nono:

BBfan46 03-09-2012 12:31 AM

I think people take it too seriously; It's a game and she's played it well.

Yes, she's made distasteful comments but she's no more two-faced than Coleen is!

In fact, I'm getting quite a kick from watching Julie. I'd rather we kept interesting housemates until the end.

Silent Scream 03-09-2012 12:35 AM

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Originally Posted by BBfan46 (Post 5459959)
I think people take it too seriously; It's a game and she's played it well.

Yes, she's made distasteful comments but she's no more two-faced than Coleen is!

In fact, I'm getting quite a kick from watching Julie. I'd rather we kept interesting housemates until the end.

ffs. How is Colleen twofaced? So many random posts tonight backed up by absolutely zero.

BBfan46 03-09-2012 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5459968)
ffs. How is Colleen twofaced? So many random posts tonight backed up by absolutely zero.

The fact she moans about Julie then goes on to accept her hugs and makes mindless, pleasant conversation. That's two-faced. Not that Julie isn't the same but at least she's entertaining.

Coleen is also a ship jumper, buzzing around like a mosquito, drawing attention and playing the victim. Annoying woman and it will be truly awful when she wins on Friday.

Silent Scream 03-09-2012 12:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BBfan46 (Post 5459973)
The fact she moans about Julie then goes on to accept her hugs and makes mindless, pleasant conversation. That's two-faced. Not that Julie isn't the same but at least she's entertaining.

Coleen is also a ship jumper, buzzing around like a mosquito, drawing attention and playing the victim. Annoying woman and it will be truly awful when she wins on Friday.

Have you been watching the show? Colleen hates Julie because of how she's treated her. ALL the clips show her being sarcastic towards Julie and fake hugging her.

Classic example. Julie moaning about how hard it is to nominate. Colleen: yeah, specially when you 'love' them all. Sarcasm? ffs.

flamingGalah! 03-09-2012 12:47 AM

Coleen went into the house with an opinion of Julie from her equally vile sister Linda (who had a run in with Julie in the past) so it was her not Julie who had the problem... Coleen was also pi**ed off as she thought she would be the 'mother' of the house & 'Queen Bee' when both those roles went to Julie (who she already disliked). Coleen is a bitter, manipulative, miserable hag with a huge chip on her shoulder. She has never got over Shane Richie cheating on her & from how she has been in the house I can understand fully why he did...

Coleen & Martin are far more bitchy & two faced than Julie :nono:

Silent Scream 03-09-2012 12:59 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 5459997)
Coleen went into the house with an opinion of Julie from her equally vile sister Linda (who had a run in with Julie in the past) so it was her not Julie who had the problem... Coleen was also pi**ed off as she thought she would be the 'mother' of the house & 'Queen Bee' when both those roles went to Julie (who she already disliked). Coleen is a bitter, manipulative, miserable hag with a huge chip on her shoulder. She has never got over Shane Richie cheating on her & from how she has been in the house I can understand fully why he did...

Coleen & Martin are far more bitchy & two faced than Julie :nono:

Interesting you condone someone cheating on their partner based on seeing someone for an hour a day in a house. Colleen and her sister are absolutely spot on based on what we've seen of Julie in the house.

I wouldn't expect someone who supports cheating on your partner to have a balanced opinion on anyone despite all evidence showing Julie is indeed a vile bitch. At least you are consistent in your views.

flamingGalah! 03-09-2012 01:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5460026)
Interesting you condone someone cheating on their partner based on seeing someone for an hour a day in a house. Colleen and her sister are absolutely spot on based on what we've seen of Julie in the house.

I wouldn't expect someone who supports cheating on your partner to have a balanced opinion on anyone despite all evidence showing Julie is indeed a vile bitch. At least you are consistent in your views.

Coleen comes across as a miserable bitter hag & a bitch too, so yes I can't say I blame Shane for cheating on her...

The Nolans are well known for being complete bitches in real life too & what we have seen of Coleen supports this...

I wouldn't expect you who obviously has a deep hatred for Julie to have a balanced opinion either, it's called having a different opinion dear...

You believe Julie is a vile bitch, I don't.

Silent Scream 03-09-2012 01:09 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 5460041)
Coleen comes across as a miserable bitter hag & a bitch too, so yes I can't say I blame Shane for cheating on her...

The Nolans are well known for being complete bitches in real life too & what we have seen of Coleen supports this...

I wouldn't expect you who obviously has a deep hatred for Julie to have a balanced opinion either, it's called having a different opinion dear...

You believe Julie is a vile bitch, I don't.

Colleen is a miserable bitter hag and a bitch? Based on what? How do you know this? I won't accept some drivel you read in a tabloid newspaper by the way.

ALL opinons on Julie are based on what she has done in the house and she is vile there is no 'debate' we have all seen it.

What have you got to back up your nastiness towards Colleen? Do you know her personally? I'd hate to think you based your opinions on what you read in Hello magazine and The Sun.

flamingGalah! 03-09-2012 01:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5460055)
Colleen is a miserable bitter hag and a bitch? Based on what? How do you know this? I won't accept some drivel you read in a tabloid newspaper by the way.

ALL opinons on Julie are based on what she has done in the house and she is vile there is no 'debate' we have all seen it.

What have you got to back up your nastiness towards Colleen? Do you know her personally? I'd hate to think you based your opinions on what you read in Hello magazine and The Sun.

Erm all my opinions ARE based on how Coleen has been in the house. I explained my reasons before...

Silent Scream 03-09-2012 01:31 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 5460064)
Erm all my opinions ARE based on how Coleen has been in the house. I explained my reasons before...

You didn't explain anything other than you assume Colleen is the second coming of the Antichrist based on... nothing. What evidence have you got?

She's not my favourite HM FAR from it but I find it hilarious that people slaughter her just because they love Julie who has shown she is pretty much the very last person you would want to meet outside of the house.

Untrustworthy, backstabbing, cold-hearted bitch. This is based on watching her on TV and from someone who initially wanted her to ****ing win!

Suze 03-09-2012 01:37 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 5460064)
Erm all my opinions ARE based on how Coleen has been in the house. I explained my reasons before...

I love your Julian siggy, flamingGalah. I would have sported one also, but my siggy's always seem to put the mockers on my faves winning :o

flamingGalah! 03-09-2012 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 5459997)
Coleen went into the house with an opinion of Julie from her equally vile sister Linda (who had a run in with Julie in the past) so it was her not Julie who had the problem... Coleen was also pi**ed off as she thought she would be the 'mother' of the house & 'Queen Bee' when both those roles went to Julie (who she already disliked). Coleen is a bitter, manipulative, miserable hag with a huge chip on her shoulder. She has never got over Shane Richie cheating on her & from how she has been in the house I can understand fully why he did...

Coleen & Martin are far more bitchy & two faced than Julie :nono:

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Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5460084)
You didn't explain anything other than you assume Colleen is the second coming of the Antichrist based on... nothing. What evidence have you got?

She's not my favourite HM FAR from it but I find it hilarious that people slaughter her just because they love Julie who has shown she is pretty much the very last person you would want to meet outside of the house.

Untrustworthy, backstabbing, cold-hearted bitch. This is based on watching her on TV and from someone who initially wanted her to ****ing win!

I have quoted my post in which I said why I don't like Coleen...

I liked Coleen before she went into the house, but now I cannot stand her & it has nothing to do with me loving Julie, Julian is my favourite!

Silent Scream 03-09-2012 01:55 AM

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Originally Posted by flamingGalah! (Post 5460104)
I have quoted my post in which I said why I don't like Coleen...

I liked Coleen before she went into the house, but now I cannot stand her & it has nothing to do with me loving Julie, Julian is my favourite!

Okay, let's call a truce here. I keep hearing it's only a game, it must be true?

the truth 03-09-2012 03:50 AM

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Originally Posted by Jords (Post 5459697)
I just find it incredibly funny when I see such a massive over-reaction about Julie. Shes repulsive, really man? Shes been a bit manipulative but so have others.. Mike playing victim to Danica is a massive example, but this is all fine and dandy but hes a young lad right? And it must be the pretty young girl's fault. He was glutton for punishment and people have lapped it up. Simple as.

Julie's been fun, supportive and a big part of the show. She deserves so much more credit, not hate.

100% agree. in many ways julie has been more honest because everyone bitches a bit, especially when cooped in there 24/7 with nothing to do but bitch and be forced to bitch by big brother. she has been hilarious at times and one of if not the most entertaining

funkime 03-09-2012 07:30 AM

you judge on appearance? Cant believe the disrespect for a 70 year old...especially one who entertained us all so well....as for the men in the house they are the most miserable bunch I ever came across! When they didnt get what and who they wanted they sulked and formed little groups and bitched. Martin should have stayed at home....most boring CBB HM ever!

Nedusa 03-09-2012 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 5459731)
She hasn't been vile, she hasn't really been bad,she has been entertaining and although she has tried to manipulate noms, most of them have really,just in a more subtle way.

The way the highlights went tonight and I wasn't all that comfortable with them,I can see none of the bigger names winning this, it may yet end up between the Situation, Ashley and Harvey as the top 3 now.

I also hope she gets a gentle exit, she has done nothing massively wrong in the house, as has been said she is 70, not in the best of health, I read she had fought cervical cancer some years ago too.
It isn't nice to see a 70 year old acting as she has done some of the time in the house but on the other side it's really awful to see grown people in effect ganging up on a 70 year old on a TV show.

The mocking and holding up of her personal clothes in the diary room too was extremely uncomfortable for me to watch to be honest and so I hope she gets a good,gentle exit from the house.
'IF' she even goes,of course.

Good post... Much as I dislike the old Hag, it is a gameshow and she was trying to win. Her tactics changed after about a week in there and this is when she started to lose public support, the honest genuine funny Julie was slowly replaced by the vile , loathsome, backstabbing old Hag.

However, if she is evicted on Wed ( and I'm fairly sure she will go) then I hope she gets a few boos and some cheers for trying to play the game (however badly). Fact is like her or hate her she has been very entertaining and for that she deserves some credit...!!!!

Madmacs 03-09-2012 07:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5459790)
Well the thing about a vote to save on CBB is if you want to win you have to either 1) be massively entertaining in the house and popular with the viewers or 2) you have to have been very popular with the viewers before you went in but that only works if 3) you haven't pissed the viewers off massively while you're in there.

Lorenzo fits none of these descriptions. Julie fits 2 but it doesn't matter because she ****ed up royally with 3. Martin fits 2 and 3 and so should win by a landslide.

The only problem with this deduction is I'm usually massively wrong on all evictions so if you are a Julie fan don't lose hope yet :)

...I don't think that's entirely accurate...have you forgotten Chantelle...she fitted none of the above...and, as for Lorenzo when has he 'massively pissed the viewers off'?...(if he fell for Danica...how can anyone be annoyed at him for that...she's drop dead gorgeous FGS!!) he comes across as a thoroughly, well balanced, likable, genuine & decent guy IMO!!

Pyramid* 03-09-2012 07:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Silent Scream (Post 5459599)
It means she's out. It took moronic chants from a large group of imbeciles during the last eviction to give them the courage to finally nominate the old bat.

For the first time, I salute the aforementioned neanderthals. Often have I derided them, but this once, just this once, they have done CBB viewers a great service.

The only question that remains is who will go out with her? I don't care. As long as she goes, I will be oblivious to the other eviction.

I hope the crowd isn't too vicious, she's 70 after all. I'm glad she's going but you would hope she won't get ripped apart on the way out. Just give her the boot then let's get on with the show.

It will be interesting to see more of Julian when he's not attached to Julie 24/7. He might actually have a chance of winning it now.

If you've read all this well done, I somehow managed to bore myself halfway through it.


There's no need for a Lynch mob (stolen from Chuff...:)) - as much as I'd love her to go out to massive boos....there is a huge part of me that so wishes the crowd would simply greet to exit by turning their backs to her and remain completely silent.

As it is: I do actually think she'll come out to resounding cheers - so fickle the crowd are.

Kazanne 03-09-2012 08:42 AM

I think people will cheer,I think Brian will also ask them to 'Be gentle,she's an old lady' she deserves some boos as she is totally NOT a nice woman ,she is common and two faced,not a nice trait for someone her age,I dont really care what they do,I just hope she goes.

Pyramid* 03-09-2012 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by kazanne (Post 5460261)
I think people will cheer,I think Brian will also ask them to 'Be gentle,she's an old lady' she deserves some boos as she is totally NOT a nice woman ,she is common and two faced,not a nice trait for someone her age,I dont really care what they do,I just hope she goes.

I think the house would have been a lot more fun, and far less serious - and far less bitchy without the bitter old woman that Julie Goodyear is.

Some people give off negative vibes and use their energy to moan, complain, bitch and be nasty - and are bitter to the very core: Julie's one of them - people like that suck the life out of anything they are involved in.

I hope she goes - and I almost guarantee the house will lighten up immensely and immediately.

I can almost hear Julian sigh, wry smile on his face and quietly stating the wordsl "Oh Well...." in that endearing manner he so has. :D

Ellen 03-09-2012 10:03 AM

If anyone has negative vibes & uses their energy to moan, complain & bitch it is definatly Coleen.
Julie does have negative traits, like everyone but at least she has entertained throughout the show.
Coleen has moaned & moaned & used the pity me act all along. I dont like people who use their emotions on others to get what they want & that is Coleen to a tee.

Kazanne 03-09-2012 10:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Pyramid* (Post 5460322)
I think the house would have been a lot more fun, and far less serious - and far less bitchy without the bitter old woman that Julie Goodyear is.

Some people give off negative vibes and use their energy to moan, complain, bitch and be nasty - and are bitter to the very core: Julie's one of them - people like that suck the life out of anything they are involved in.

I hope she goes - and I almost guarantee the house will lighten up immensely and immediately.

I can almost hear Julian sigh, wry smile on his face and quietly stating the wordsl "Oh Well...." in that endearing manner he so has. :D

I agree Pyramid,would be nice to see them having fun now instead of them all wondering what Julie is up to,I never paid much heed to her before BB,i guess she has her die hard 'Corrie' fans but I'm guessing she has not made many new fans by her BB stay.


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