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Omah 20-11-2012 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5632806)
Well I guess they could if they could be bothered to get up, have one breckers, get to school and shovel another one in before 8am.....
Neither of mine would, prefer the extra time in their pits! haha!
The Blackpool plan doesn't mention a time ..... :conf:

Shaun 20-11-2012 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 5632480)
What a load of absolute nonsense....what's next buying them all new clothes and taking them all to Disneyland...!!!!
yes, that's really next. well done.

jesus wept.

Omah 20-11-2012 05:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5632814)
yes, that's really next. well done.

jesus wept.
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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 5631592)
is there any news you don't complain about?

:laugh3:

Me. I Am Salman 20-11-2012 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5632784)
How come, were you embarrassed to?
Did many go to it?
no both my parents work I don't need to go :joker:

Vicky. 20-11-2012 05:45 PM
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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 5632839)
no both my parents work I don't need to go :joker:
My parents worked but my brother went to breakfast club. They werent around when I was young I dont think (breakfast clubs, not my parents :laugh: ). He went because most of his friends did though, and it worked out quite well for my parents too as they could get to work earlier :)

Kizzy 20-11-2012 05:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5632808)
If pupils made the effort to get to school by 8AM, why did they not, alternatively, spend 10 more minutes on breakfast at home ?

Were their parents too poor to afford a bowl of cereal or a couple of slices of bread, i.e. were they living in the 1930's ?
I don't know omah...for the reasons I outlined earlier maybe there is no breakfast available at home.
It is hard to comprehend that some kids just don't get the basics that most take for granted..
for whatever reason.
We could sit in judgement, we could wring our hands...or, we could help them.

Kizzy 20-11-2012 05:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5632813)
The Blackpool plan doesn't mention a time ..... :conf:
Omah...you are getting on my last nerve..... :)
8am was a guess as salman said his schools free breakfast ended at 8....OK!!! ;)

Omah 20-11-2012 05:53 PM
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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5632858)
I don't know omah...for the reasons I outlined earlier maybe there is no breakfast available at home.
It is hard to comprehend that some kids just don't get the basics that most take for granted..
for whatever reason.
We could sit in judgement, we could wring our hands...or, we could help them.
It's not a select few that are going to be fed, it's ALL primary school pupils, and probably secondary school students, in Blackpool - I wouldn't be surprised if McD* got the contract for the secondary schools ..... :wink:

* Mine's a Double Bacon & Egg McMuffin with a Cappuccino ..... :cool:

Livia 20-11-2012 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5632808)
If pupils made the effort to get to school by 8AM, why did they not, alternatively, spend 10 more minutes on breakfast at home ?

Were their parents too poor to afford a bowl of cereal or a couple of slices of bread, i.e. were they living in the 1930's ?
We often disagree... but not on this one.

Omah 20-11-2012 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5632878)
Omah...you are getting on my last nerve..... :)
8am was a guess as salman said his schools free breakfast ended at 8....OK!!! ;)
That was a breakfast club, though - a different concept ..... :suspect:

Kizzy 20-11-2012 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5632886)
It's not a select few that are going to be fed, it's ALL primary school pupils, and probably secondary school students, in Blackpool - I wouldn't be surprised if McD got the contract for the secondary schools ..... :wink:
Omg! I got a right chill then... Stranger things happen, it would make the council quote of 2.1million about right then...
haha!

Kizzy 20-11-2012 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5632890)
That was a breakfast club, though - a different concept ..... :suspect:

how is it a different concept?
kids at salmans school eating together a breakfast provided free, and pupils in Blackpool eating together a breakfast provided free...

Omah 20-11-2012 06:05 PM
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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5632898)
Omg! I got a right chill then... Stranger things happen, it would make the council quote of 2.1million about right then...
haha!
Unless KFC can do it cheaper ..... :laugh2:

(Greggs might put in a bid yet ..... ;))

Omah 20-11-2012 06:11 PM
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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5632923)
how is it a different concept?
kids at salmans school eating together a breakfast provided free, and pupils in Blackpool eating together a breakfast provided free...
It was mentioned that the former has a time limit and a payment alternative - the Blackpool plan has neither.

No mention of a provider for the former - was it the school, the parents, the local authority, the county council?

The former was a secondary school, Blackpool's plan is for primary schools

etc.

Kizzy 20-11-2012 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5632938)
It was mentioned that the former has a time limit and a payment alternative - the Blackpool plan has neither.

No mention of a provider for the former - was it the school, the parents, the local authority, the county council?

The former was a secondary school, Blackpool's plan is for primary schools

etc.
Of course there will be a time limit, it's a school not a costa coffee...
I'm sure that if you wanted to find out who the providers of those services were you could?
The 3 month trial is for primary, it mentions rolling the scheme out to secondary if successful.
I'm in favour, I think they should do a limited free lunch too!
beans on toast, pasta and sauce or a jacket spud.

Me. I Am Salman 20-11-2012 06:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 5632851)
My parents worked but my brother went to breakfast club. They werent around when I was young I dont think (breakfast clubs, not my parents :laugh: ). He went because most of his friends did though, and it worked out quite well for my parents too as they could get to work earlier :)
oh.. it usually tended to be people who's parents were out of work that went to it in our school :)

Vicky. 20-11-2012 06:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Salman! (Post 5633116)
oh.. it usually tended to be people who's parents were out of work that went to it in our school :)
Yeah it was mostly those in his. They got it for free IIRC, where my mum had to pay a tenner a week or something for my brother to go.

Omah 20-11-2012 09:44 PM
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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5633036)
Of course there will be a time limit, it's a school not a costa coffee...
I'm sure that if you wanted to find out who the providers of those services were you could?
The 3 month trial is for primary, it mentions rolling the scheme out to secondary if successful.
I'm in favour, I think they should do a limited free lunch too!
beans on toast, pasta and sauce or a jacket spud.
You're making assumptions and drawing conclusions ..... :nono:

Omah 20-11-2012 10:34 PM
Blackpool Council cuts puts 300 jobs at risk
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-20403137

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Three hundred jobs could go at Blackpool Council and services could be cut as it tries to save £13.5m in its budget next year, it has revealed.

Council leader Simon Blackburn described government funding cuts as "insane" as he unveiled the plans.

Workers will again be asked to take four days of unpaid leave. Talks with the unions are under way.

The council said some services would be protected, such as the illuminations and having social workers for children.

Library services will also be protected.

However, the Labour-run council said 200 jobs and 100 contract posts could be lost as a result of the budget cuts.
Previously :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-17160762

24 February 2012

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Blackpool Council has agreed to slash its spending by £10.6m in the coming year and cut 75 jobs.

Councillors agreed a £144.2m budget and a council tax freeze with the bulk of the savings - £5.8m - coming from the social services budget.

Back office costs will be reduced by £2m and nearly £1m will come from a thinned tier of senior management.

Last year's budget saw 750 posts lost.
Over 1,000 jobs lost in 3 years but £2.1m found to fund kids breakfasts ..... :crazy:

Scarlett. 20-11-2012 10:51 PM
I don't see a problem with this, if there is one thing the council should still invest in, it's schools, I think giving this a trial run is a good idea, not all parents have time to make their kids breakfast in the morning.

Kizzy 20-11-2012 10:53 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5633655)
You're making assumptions and drawing conclusions ..... :nono:
Am I..Oh...
assuming breakfast will not be served throughout the school day?
That you are able to research information if you wished to?
Concluding that the link you posted has mentioned extending the scheme to secondary schools?

Omah 20-11-2012 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5633913)
Am I..Oh...
assuming breakfast will not be served throughout the school day?
That you are able to research information if you wished to?
Concluding that the link you posted has mentioned extending the scheme to secondary schools?
The only facts are in the link, all else is speculation ..... :shrug:

Kizzy 20-11-2012 11:08 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5633817)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-20403137



Previously :

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england...shire-17160762

24 February 2012



Over 1,000 jobs lost in 3 years but £2.1m found to fund kids breakfasts ..... :crazy:
Yes, this streamlining of services is nationwide..
It is not specific to Blackpool, and if this has been trialled elsewhere ( maybe salmans area was also a pilot?) and found to be successful, then they are justified.
I'm just a parent omah, not a professional in matters of council funding.
If what has been applied previously is not working, then I applaud them for trying a new approach and not just sitting on their hands watching the situation deteriorate further.

Kizzy 20-11-2012 11:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Omah (Post 5633959)
The only facts are in the link, all else is speculation ..... :shrug:
OK.. you are being deliberately pedantic, not sure why but anyhoo I have made my point on this now.

Omah 20-11-2012 11:27 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by kizzy (Post 5633964)
If this has been trialled elsewhere ( maybe salmans area was also a pilot?) and found to be successful, then they are justified.
Read the link - this IS a trial!

There is no mention of "elsewhere" ..... :nono:


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