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Kazanne 05-08-2013 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Daffodil (Post 6249949)
I have never used Sam's deafness as a reason to dislike him. However here the reasons I have stated on a few occasions why he should be evicted:
1. Indolent
2. Foul-Mouthed
3. Sexist
4. Rude
5. Spends more time asleep/dozing/biting his nails than doing anything constructive.
6. Insular and reserved except in the diary room.

There! Not one mention of his deafness.
:pipe: :idc: :bored:

1= Not so he is pretty lively on LF and perhaps a lot of times he doesn't get shown
2= So are most of the others
3= He's a young man,most of them are
4= Not noticed any sign of this
5= Not so again,better picking nails than noses(dexter likes a good root)
6 =Not so insular that he didn't tell certain ones to their faces

and finally,you mentioned his deafness:hugesmile:

karezza 05-08-2013 10:15 AM

The biggest crime a Big Brother housemate can commit is to be boring. Thou shalt not be boring. Sam is boring. To be boring is unforgivable.

Kyle 05-08-2013 10:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 6249973)
The biggest crime a Big Brother housemate can commit is to be boring. Thou shalt not be boring. Sam is boring. To be boring is unforgivable.

I don't believe in your religion so he hath not comitted blasphemy in my church your eminence. :dance:

karezza 05-08-2013 10:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6249977)
I don't believe in your religion so he hath not comitted blasphemy in my church your eminence. :dance:

The Ten Commandments of Big Brother:

1. Thou shalt not be boring
2. Thou shalt not spend all day in bed
3. Thou shalt not pretend to be nice
4. Thou shalt not play for the sympathy vote
5. Thou shalt not cry at every opportunity
6. Thou shalt not go to bed before midnight
7. Thou shalt not avoid confrontation
8. Thou shalt not say you are bored
9. Thou shalt not consider walking out
10. Thou shalt not keep quiet

Amen

KingOfTheMods 05-08-2013 10:31 AM

Anything I say about Sam is based on the fact that I don't like him due to his general twattishness, nowt to do with him being partially deaf.

Tozzie 05-08-2013 10:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 6249987)
The Ten Commandments of Big Brother:

1. Thou shalt not be boring
2. Thou shalt not spend all day in bed
3. Thou shalt not pretend to be nice
4. Thou shalt not play for the sympathy vote
5. Thou shalt not cry at every opportunity
6. Thou shalt not go to bed before midnight
7. Thou shalt not avoid confrontation
8. Thou shalt not say you are bored
9. Thou shalt not consider walking out
10. Thou shalt not keep quiet

Amen

:laugh: hilarious hahahahaha

Kyle 05-08-2013 10:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 6249987)
The Ten Commandments of Big Brother:

1. Thou shalt not be boring
2. Thou shalt not spend all day in bed
3. Thou shalt not pretend to be nice
4. Thou shalt not play for the sympathy vote
5. Thou shalt not cry at every opportunity
6. Thou shalt not go to bed before midnight
7. Thou shalt not avoid confrontation
8. Thou shalt not say you are bored
9. Thou shalt not consider walking out
10. Thou shalt not keep quiet

Amen


Does that mean I am a follower of the anti-brother? :devil:

I hope Tozzie doesn't burn me at the stake for my blatant heresy!

karezza 05-08-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Simple Minds (Post 6250003)
Does that mean I am a follower of the anti-brother? :devil:

I hope Tozzie doesn't burn me at the stake for my blatant heresy!

The Anti-Housemate (Sam) has violated several of those sacred commandments and will burn for all eternity in Big Brother Hell.

:devil:

halfacrown 05-08-2013 10:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6249959)
There is a certain minority on here that are furious that he had a go at Dexter,simple as , and they will use any means to try and diss him,even unfortunately his health as a partial deaf person myself,it is hard to be around a babbling crowd sometimes its best to keep out of conversations just incase I say the wrong thing and it ends up embarrassing,so people need to know this may be due to him being a bit quiet,as for him being boring,I am struggling to find what the others have done that is so 'exciting' so ,Sam is imo as alert as the others its just he is not bitching and smarming around so doesn't get the highlights.

The results of Sam's 'having a go' at Dexter and Sophie are highly contentious, as is the argument over what constitutes 'exciting' behaviour in a housemate: people see very different things in the same programme. Some people thought Sam was brave and strong, others that he was hypocritical and immature!

I think that Sam's hearing issues have made his time in BB a bit of a challenge, but it is not an environment for shrinking violets. However, his issues are not insurmountable. My own father was deaf (his choice of word) and in addition never learnt to write but he was a clever and charismatic man who was successful in business, and in the part of London where he operated, he was as famous as Frank Sinatra: everybody knew him and had a story about him. The last thing anybody would have defined him by was his deafness.

Kazanne 05-08-2013 10:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 6249987)
The Ten Commandments of Big Brother:

1. Thou shalt not be boring
2. Thou shalt not spend all day in bed
3. Thou shalt not pretend to be nice
4. Thou shalt not play for the sympathy vote
5. Thou shalt not cry at every opportunity
6. Thou shalt not go to bed before midnight
7. Thou shalt not avoid confrontation
8. Thou shalt not say you are bored
9. Thou shalt not consider walking out
10. Thou shalt not keep quiet

Amen

That doesn't sound like Sam at all to me,some major fabrications there:hugesmile:

karezza 05-08-2013 10:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 6250023)
That doesn't sound like Sam at all to me,some major fabrications there:hugesmile:

Sam violates at least half of the Big Brother Commandments - that is unforgivable.

:nono:

Kazanne 05-08-2013 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfacrown (Post 6250020)
The results of Sam's 'having a go' at Dexter and Sophie are highly contentious, as is the argument over what constitutes 'exciting' behaviour in a housemate: people see very different things in the same programme. Some people thought Sam was brave and strong, others that he was hypocritical and immature!

I think that Sam's hearing issues have made his time in BB a bit of a challenge, but it is not an environment for shrinking violets. However, his issues are not insurmountable. My own father was deaf (his choice of word) and in addition never learnt to write but he was a clever and charismatic man who was successful in business, and in the part of London where he operated, he was as famous as Frank Sinatra: everybody knew him and had a story about him. The last thing anybody would have defined him by was his deafness.

He's 23,I'm sure as he gets older he will learn how to handle what comes before him.

DanaC 05-08-2013 10:48 AM

Sorry, but Cynicalhermit is right: there are many derogatory comments in here about the lad's hearing problems, up to and including suggestions that the hearing impaired should not be 'allowed' to enter BB.

Any liking or support for Sam is shot down with accusations of 'sympathy' for his disability, as if that is the only reason anybody would supprt him. Others make regular references to him being a dead cert to win because of his disability. In short: he is talked about by some people almost exclusively in terms of his disability.

Kyle 05-08-2013 10:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 6250028)
Sam violates at least half of the Big Brother Commandments - that is unforgivable.

:nono:

Ah priests Kazanne, always preaching to us lay folk, it's disgraceful so it is. :spin:

KingOfTheMods 05-08-2013 10:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6250035)
Sorry, but Cynicalhermit is right: there are many derogatory comments in here about the lad's hearing problems, up to and including suggestions that the hearing impaired should not be 'allowed' to enter BB.

Any liking or support for Sam is shot down with accusations of 'sympathy' for his disability, as if that is the only reason anybody would supprt him. Others make regular references to him being a dead cert to win because of his disability. In short: he is talked about by some people almost exclusively in terms of his disability.

Sorry but there are some overly sensitive people in here, people take offence too easy these days. I woke up the other night and saw some one taking a load of wood out of my garden but I didn't say anything in case he took a fence. Badum tish. I'm here all week.

smeagol 05-08-2013 11:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 6250019)
The Anti-Housemate (Sam) has violated several of those sacred commandments and will burn for all eternity in Big Brother Hell.

:devil:


lol :joker:

smeagol 05-08-2013 11:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfTheMods (Post 6250054)
Sorry but there are some overly sensitive people in here, people take offence too easy these days. I woke up the other night and saw some one taking a load of wood out of my garden but I didn't say anything in case he took a fence. Badum tish. I'm here all week.


lol thats funny i like that :joker:

KingOfTheMods 05-08-2013 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6250063)
lol thats funny i like that :joker:

I try precious ;)

Benjamin 05-08-2013 11:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by halfacrown (Post 6249761)
The majority of people who have a problem with Sam are saying he's been a dull housemate and are not focusing of his hearing issues. Reading the OP, I feel as though you are pretty close to defining Sam by the hearing issues (which is rather patronising), yet you are asking people to 'come up with an argument that does not involve a person's imperfections'. Sam seems capable of looking after himself and I somehow feel he would not welcome focus on his hearing. Notwithstanding, Sam has failed to make much of a positive impact. He does seem rather immature and sleepy, with very little charisma.

I said this the other day to him. Most people dislike Sam because he is dull, not because he is hard of hearing.

DanaC 05-08-2013 11:20 AM

They may dislike him because he is dull, but a lot of people frame their comments with reference to his disability. His nickname is now 'sympathy vote Sam'

Someone asked CH for examples. Here are a few.

Quote:

Originally Posted by linn (Post 6250045)
Sam is rude he thinks hi:sleep:s disability allows it. He has been vile to Sophie

Quote:

Originally Posted by jegmeister (Post 6243053)
After all, he was constantly a**se-licking Callum so how did he find a way out to crawl out from his backside and stay in. Sam the mindless follower of Callum shouldn't even be in there.

He can't even hear what people say. Ridiculous to have someone like that in the show. It's tough for someone with a disability but not realistic on a show where communication is so important.

Quote:

Originally Posted by barbel13 (Post 6246341)
If you want to win big brother just become disable, cut off your limbs and enter the house and the public will feel sorry for you.This is what is happening with Sam because he has a hearing problem.He entered the house and knows what to expect and people should stop saying ahhh he is finding difficult to join the group and into conversation. People should not vote a winner on emotion but on merit and SAM done nothing to entertain me.Pete had tourette in previous BB and he won by merit because he was funny and entertaining to watch.Sam find it difficult and spent most of the time sleeping.Well you chose to enter BB and you find it hard then you should just leave and the same time he is quite rude to dex because his pal callum is gone.

Quote:

Originally Posted by RodHull (Post 6243017)
Lets be honest on day 1 when he used his 'hilarious' catchphrase about his winky expanding that was all he had to offer really. Hes been riding the sympathy vote ever since and ive never liked the boy much.

Quote:

Originally Posted by smeagol (Post 6244407)
obvious winner from the start same as luke a.
you need to be boring with with a medical issue to gain sympathy then the prize is yours

Quote:

Originally Posted by karezza (Post 6244624)
Sympathy vote Sam is a terrible housemate. Please don't let him win!


There are more, and I think there are worse, but I haven't the time or energy to do a more thorough search.

MrWong 05-08-2013 11:35 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6250035)
Sorry, but Cynicalhermit is right: there are many derogatory comments in here about the lad's hearing problems, up to and including suggestions that the hearing impaired should not be 'allowed' to enter BB.

Any liking or support for Sam is shot down with accusations of 'sympathy' for his disability, as if that is the only reason anybody would supprt him. Others make regular references to him being a dead cert to win because of his disability. In short: he is talked about by some people almost exclusively in terms of his disability.

I've seen a couple of posts saying that but only in reference to hm's with a disability automatically getting the sympathy vote.

The bookies know this too about the general public which is why he's been one of the favourites for most of the series, even tho for the majority of the time he's been in a coma.

He was in the top half of all polls despite doing **** all and barely being shown for 6 weeks, above hm's like Dan, Callum and Hazel.

Withano 05-08-2013 11:36 AM

Can you quote a couple? I'm a Sam fan but I've never seen anything inappropriate about him.

Withano 05-08-2013 11:40 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6250107)
They may dislike him because he is dull, but a lot of people frame their comments with reference to his disability. His nickname is now 'sympathy vote Sam'

Someone asked CH for examples. Here are a few.












There are more, and I think there are worse, but I haven't the time or energy to do a more thorough search.

Ohh, brilliantly found. Thess are disgusting and I agree with the OP, they shouldn't be allowed on the forum

KingOfTheMods 05-08-2013 11:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanaC (Post 6250107)
They may dislike him because he is dull, but a lot of people frame their comments with reference to his disability. His nickname is now 'sympathy vote Sam'

Someone asked CH for examples. Here are a few.

There are more, and I think there are worse, but I haven't the time or energy to do a more thorough search.

Most of those don't even qualify as taking the piss out of his disability. They are merely pointing out that he has a disability and some people think that automatically qualifies someone as a good person. It doesn't, I come from a large family and I have cousins and nieces/nephews with disabilities ranging from Down Syndrome to Autism. They are just as much arseholes as the rest of us when they want to be and it's got frig all to do with their disability.

Withano 05-08-2013 12:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KingOfTheMods (Post 6250164)
Most of those don't even qualify as taking the piss out of his disability. They are merely pointing out that he has a disability and some people think that automatically qualifies someone as a good person. It doesn't, I come from a large family and I have cousins and nieces/nephews with disabilities ranging from Down Syndrome to Autism. They are just as much arseholes as the rest of us when they want to be and it's got frig all to do with their disability.

All of the posts she quoted were disgusting and cruel. Every one of them would have been posted differently had he not have the condition.


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