Originally Posted by wannashag
(Post 6407372)
It's not down to the manager if the two players you mentioned (Valencia and Young) are in your expert opinion, not good enough (he didn't sign those players, he inherited them), Moyes doesn't make a pass for them, Moyes doesn't make a tackle for them, Moyes doesn't do their running for them, they do it themselves. their professional players on huge over the top wages, and if their not playing to their ability, then it say's to me that their attitude towards their work is not 100%, and they need to be shown the door and replaced by players that will show the right attitude.
First paragraph makes no sense. In this case why has any manager even been sacked if it's down to the players?
Valencia and Young are probably giving 100%. The issue is they're 'effin wank.
You mention Nani, a player who no doubt as bundles of talent, so why doesn't he show it week in week out, he's had plenty of chances in the team, but has never shown any consistency, that's an attitude problem right there, primadonna comes to mind, which goes against the philosophy of the hard working class values of Moyes.
I'm not a huge Nani fan. However, he's way ahead of the tripe Moyes chose to play before him. He needs to be given a run. Even though nobody really shone against West Brom, he was more dangerous than Valencia and Young combined in the league this season.
And the other was Kagawa, maybe Moyes doesn't see him as part of what he want's to build, maybe he thinks he's not good enough, he's hardly set the Premier League on fire as he?
If Moyes doesn't think Kagawa is good enough, yet seemingly believes Valencia is, then I lose any hope whatsoever.
You'd have to be very fickle about football to want rid of a manager two months into his job.
I didn't say I wanted him to be sacked.
If you only blame the manager and not the players when things go wrong, then i'd expect you to only praise the manager and not the players when things go right.
I haven't blamed just the manager. I said in a post you quoted 'it's a combination of both'...however the manager deserves flack when persisting with s-hit.
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