Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7223402)

he deserves to win even for sitting through this vile bullying with complete dignity humlity and patience...never once has he slagged anyone or shouted or gotten angry..despite the evil goading from the group of anti american english bullies

Originally Posted by mary poppins (Post 7223280)

The man is rude, the whole house can't be wrong.

Some people just prefer to cry bullying or intolerance.

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 7223417)

The other night on live feed i watched James go on and on at Gary about his faults and all Gary did was nod along.

Then when James's rant was over, Gary went from person to person trying to make light conversation about dinner etc and HMs kept walking away.

There was no clever editing going on there. It just confirmed to me what most people are saying - that Gary is being either ignored or lectured by HMs - while saying nothing bad either to them or about them himself.

It was pretty sad to watch. He looked his age if not older, and seemed pretty exhausted by the whole thing. Who can blame him?

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7223422)

any man who shoves the incredible hulk (lou ferrigno) out of the way is an even bigger hero in my eyes

Originally Posted by the truth (Post 7223422)

any man who shoves the incredible hulk (lou ferrigno) out of the way is an even bigger hero in my eyes

Originally Posted by SocietyIsRuined (Post 7223418)

To me though he seems the same person on the apprentice. The only difference is that half of these housemates can't be bothered to hear his conversations and such. You can tell he's a good guy though from the Meat Loaf confrontation. The way he took that was amazing without retaliation.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 7223223)

I was asked would I make a thread on this post I did earlier, so...

If I hadn't watched celeb apprentice I would be convinced Gary was a poor old man being picked on too. But I'm a bit dubious. He was disruptive and a wind up at times and he drove them nuts on it as well. You seen a lot more of him in action. He had bad social skills, he was rude, inconsiderate and not a team player. When they tried to reason with him he would thank them and say he loved them so that hasn't changed either. He didn't have much of a hearing problem either, but that may have gotten worse.

Two shows with around 24 people - they can't all be uncaring and heartless to whatever degree, it doesn't compute. So it's common sense to assume the main problem stems from Gary himself. I don't think he's fake, I think that is just him. I fully believe what the HM's are saying and I think the editing is misleading. 40 minutes of live feed can't possibly give a true picture. I was hoping that he would drive them all mad, and he is - only we are not really seeing why so we are missing out, I think.
He certainly causes controversy wherever he goes, which makes him a great HM!
What are your thoughts?

Originally Posted by jet (Post 7223441)

It wasn't Lou that he shoved. :nono:

Originally Posted by Patricia4 (Post 7223425)

Yes they can be wrong because the all are up each others butts.

Originally Posted by rionablue (Post 7223575)

Gary is playing all the housemates like finely tuned fiddles and with some of them I am glad he is doing so. Any criticism they are giving him is water off a ducks back. He sits there and either listens patiently or pretends he cant hear them. He is well able for the lot of them. I don't think he should win because he CAN be very rude and his hygiene is awful. However there are plenty housemates well below him on my listing

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 7223341)

Edited to the hilt, not once have them shown him spitting on the floor

Originally Posted by smileymummy (Post 7223585)

Can they? gary is a guy that was accused of beating his wife the charges were dropped,then he hit an airline steward and fought with co hosts is this really a man that sweet and gentile? i think not!

Oh and then there was the celebrity rehab thing where he had to be removed because he got pyschical,yes what a lovely man! NOT.

So yes very clever editing on big brothers behalf and if it is and its in garys favour when hes being nasty i will never ever ever watch it again.

Originally Posted by smileymummy (Post 7223585)

Can they? gary is a guy that was accused of beating his wife the charges were dropped,then he hit an airline steward and fought with co hosts is this really a man that sweet and gentile? i think not!

Oh and then there was the celebrity rehab thing where he had to be removed because he got pyschical,yes what a lovely man! NOT.

So yes very clever editing on big brothers behalf and if it is and its in garys favour when hes being nasty i will never ever ever watch it again.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 7223599)

The biased editing and treating certain HM's unfairly on the summer BB means I won't be watching IT again, ever. This CBB is looking like the same thing all over again....I hope not though. We'll see...

Originally Posted by Ellen (Post 7223595)

You missed out the part where he sprouted devil horns and chanted incantations! :hehe:

Originally Posted by Josy (Post 7223294)

I think Gary probably isn't the easiest to live with and he does have a big ego and may come across rude at times but that also doesn't mean he is the problem tbh.

It's like saying the kid that gets picked on at school is the problem IMO.

Gary was kinda made the scapegoat on celeb apprentice too, Meatloaf went completely mental at him for 'stealing' his paintbrush and art supplies, I mean roaring at him that he would **** him up etc (I'm a big fan of Meatloaf too) and after everything calmed down guess what happened? one of the other people found Meatloafs bag with all of his supplies and stuff in there and Gary had been innocent all along.

Again not saying Gary does no wrong, far from it but he is the easy nomination, the scapegoat IMHO, a few of the housemates that I feel have jumped on the bandwagon regarding Gary is Dee and George, neither had any problems with him until their buddies did.

But anyway even saying all that, I don't even care if Gary is 'the problem' in the house, he is the one that's keeping me watching, keeping me entertained and interested and that's why I support him.

Originally Posted by Robodog (Post 7223417)

The other night on live feed i watched James go on and on at Gary about his faults and all Gary did was nod along.

Then when James's rant was over, Gary went from person to person trying to make light conversation about dinner etc and HMs kept walking away.

There was no clever editing going on there. It just confirmed to me what most people are saying - that Gary is being either ignored or lectured by HMs - while saying nothing bad either to them or about them himself.

It was pretty sad to watch. He looked his age if not older, and seemed pretty exhausted by the whole thing. Who can blame him?

Originally Posted by waylander1973 (Post 7224147)

Maybe they fear that gary will say thing to them that will make them upset or angry with him knowing the Big Brother's edit will favour gary and not them, so they choose to limit the time their spend with him out fear in being the next one out, after all David lost his temper with him at least twice and was evicted as result, James tries to talk about his behavior and get booed by the crowd.

I was in that house I would be on my guard as well, around gary.

Originally Posted by jet (Post 7223405)

It was 2 years ago so I can't remember specifics, but he was disruptive, he wanted things done his way, if the team decided on something he would do something different and that drove them nuts, he wasn't a team player etc. He was rude and inconsiderate too.

To be fair, the plus points were he was amusing, enthusiastic, I never seen him spitting or burping and his hearing was fine. :hehe:

Originally Posted by HBB1508 (Post 7223284)

I know and to be honest it's winding me up a bit as I'm pretty sure he is anything but a victim in reality. I admire him for his acting and love his films but as a housemate I would hate to be in there with him as he would drive me round the bend I think.