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Cherie 11-11-2014 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by JoshBB (Post 7368416)
tbh I have some teachers at my school who are muslim and they don't feel the need to wear one.. I think a hijab is fine however a burkha is questionable.

I know alot of teachers who wear a hijab, no problem with it at all.

lily. 11-11-2014 03:24 PM

I don't think a hijab makes any difference, but a bhurka is something else entirely..

Ninastar 11-11-2014 03:27 PM

im about as tolerant as can be when it comes to religion... but this would be a very bad idea.

Children need to know and trust the faces of teachers. You need to be able to tell a child off, you need to be able to praise them, and christ, you need to be able to bloody smile at them. I know that your eyes can show emotion, but seriously, you need everything else when teaching too...

lily. 11-11-2014 03:29 PM

The world has gone a bit mad with all this 'religious rights' nonsense.

kirklancaster 11-11-2014 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 7368338)
It's strange that, considering his position, this man didn't stand up for the woman who was sacked for wearing a crucifix, stating that it was just "jewellery" and not an article of faith. And yet he's calling for Muslim women to be able to cover their face in a classroom full of children.

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kirklancaster 11-11-2014 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Ninastar (Post 7368481)
im about as tolerant as can be when it comes to religion... but this would be a very bad idea.

Children need to know and trust the faces of teachers. You need to be able to tell a child off, you need to be able to praise them, and christ, you need to be able to bloody smile at them. I know that your eyes can show emotion, but seriously, you need everything else when teaching too...

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Ninastar 11-11-2014 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by lily. (Post 7368483)
The world has gone a bit mad with all this 'religious rights' nonsense.

i dont think its just 'religious rights' though... i totally get what you mean, but its all kind of 'rights' that are nonsense IMO

people use it as an excuse. and i think at the end of the day (or century, w.e) it will do us more damage than good.

we spoke about this at work today. a lot of them had seen a certain religion protesting outside a mcdonalds for having a say about a recent 'confrontation' in another country. We were saying how its funny how it's okay to hate on one thing, yet they wont hate on other companies (because then need them... EG, telephone companies etc)

People often choose on what to hate and what to be 'offended' by.

i think a lot of that comes into what you've just said. People are taking things way to far these days.

/sorryfordarant

/alsosorryifthismakesnosense

arista 11-11-2014 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by lily. (Post 7368385)
lol... only you, arista... only you.


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Northern Monkey 11-11-2014 05:43 PM

Aslong as they don't let them wear it at the Royal Mail sorting office,Imagine the letters that would go missing.....
Seriously though,I wanna atleast know what my kids teacher looks like.

Nedusa 11-11-2014 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7368406)

This picture would be funny if it wasn't so extremely sad:sad:

sassysocks 16-11-2014 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 7368043)
Former Archbishop of Canterbury says ‘panic’ about the niqab is 'largely misplaced' even if young children cannot see their teacher’s face

http://reddresstheology.files.wordpr...n_williams.jpg


There is no need to “panic” about Muslim primary school teachers wearing the full-face veil in class, the former Archbishop of Canterbury, Lord Williams, has insisted.

He said concerns that young children would struggle to learn from a woman whose face was covered were “largely misplaced” and that there are other ways to "read” what people are saying.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/reli...-Williams.html


what do you think?

I think he is publicity seeking.

Under no circumstances should this ever be allowed. Our young children are our future and should not be subjected to being taught by women wearing the equivalent of a rather scarey halloween costume that can only serve to inhibit identity and effective communication between teacher and young children which is essential for young children to learn.

Communication and the ability to communicate effectively is included in most job adverts today as it is so relevant in today's world, and approximately 70%of communication comes from facial expressions and body language. The whole stupid idea flies in the face of common sense and the skills required to teach vulnerable young children who should not be used to further an agenda.

Also what message does it give to them that women should cover their faces to keep their insecure and controlling husbands happy.

It it ludicuous that our society should pander to the nonsence believed by these 'men' who think their women are either so gorgeous, or as their property, should not be seen by other men who might lust after them or worse - maybe they shouldn't judge all men by their own primitive standards.

lostalex 16-11-2014 12:48 PM

no.

Kazanne 16-11-2014 12:49 PM

It's wrong imo,I wouldn't want my kids taught by a faceless person,they would see no emotion from their teacher and sorry it doesn't belong here.

lostalex 16-11-2014 02:29 PM

it would be kinda cool if my teacher looked like a Mortal Kombat character...


kirklancaster 17-11-2014 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by sassysocks (Post 7374346)
I think he is publicity seeking.

Under no circumstances should this ever be allowed. Our young children are our future and should not be subjected to being taught by women wearing the equivalent of a rather scarey halloween costume that can only serve to inhibit identity and effective communication between teacher and young children which is essential for young children to learn.

Communication and the ability to communicate effectively is included in most job adverts today as it is so relevant in today's world, and approximately 70%of communication comes from facial expressions and body language. The whole stupid idea flies in the face of common sense and the skills required to teach vulnerable young children who should not be used to further an agenda.

Also what message does it give to them that women should cover their faces to keep their insecure and controlling husbands happy.

It it ludicuous that our society should pander to the nonsence believed by these 'men' who think their women are either so gorgeous, or as their property, should not be seen by other men who might lust after them or worse - maybe they shouldn't judge all men by their own primitive standards.

:clap1::clap1::clap1: A cracking post.

kirklancaster 17-11-2014 05:18 AM

Never mind just in schools, why should anyone be allowed to wear any kind of face-concealing outfit in these very turbulent and dangerous times?

I'll repeat my little WaterHog inspired ode - 'Ban Them'

Ban Them

Ain't no hard task when a man wears a mask
Ban them.
Ski-Masks on workers, women in burquas,
Ban them.
Should never be no head concealed
Make it law all heads be revealed.
In banks and shops there's great palava
If anyone enters in balaclava
But nothing said at certain races
With hijabs covering up their faces
Ban them.
Life will always be much better
Without idiots in masks from V for vendetta
Save a life of future sorrow
By outlawing nutters in half-masks like Zorro
Ban them.
Or I predict a rather bleak vista
Ban them
Or in the words of Arista --
"Just fecking ban them."

I am now busy composing one about banning out-of-touch, attention seeking, senile old Church personages from opening their mouths.

Nedusa 17-11-2014 08:58 AM

No fcuk em..... Wear normal fcuking clothes like every other teacher.

Stop pandering to these fcuking hate filled evil bastards...

Kazanne 17-11-2014 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7375913)
No fcuk em..... Wear normal fcuking clothes like every other teacher.

Stop pandering to these fcuking hate filled evil bastards...

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Crimson Dynamo 17-11-2014 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7375913)
No fcuk em..... Wear normal fcuking clothes like every other teacher.

Stop pandering to these fcuking hate filled evil bastards...

To be fair my Geography teacher used to wear a bowtie and had elbow patches

so i would have preferred him to wear the full letterbox

kirklancaster 17-11-2014 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Nedusa (Post 7375913)
No fcuk em..... Wear normal fcuking clothes like every other teacher.

Stop pandering to these fcuking hate filled evil bastards...

:clap1::clap1::clap1: I'm beginning to love you Nedusa :blush::hehe:

kirklancaster 17-11-2014 09:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Kazanne (Post 7375915)
:clap1::clap1::clap1:

I already love you Kaz. :joker:


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