This comment made me feel very uncomfortable, she has no filter at all, and is one of the reasons i dislike her.

oh yeah and then the

"looks like one of those hampsters with the red eyes"

as if its funny??? its not.

- evil - that woman - its disgusting what she says and how she treats people - how could you bare to be around that?

Whether you're from the north or not that's not acceptable though really.
She was wrong to say that it was unnecessary.

Citing an event from BB7's first week to drag Nikki ten years later is a bit of a reach. You might have made a dick move ten years ago but that doesn't define who you are now does it?

I wouldn't brand Nikki's actions in the house as anything more than mischievous. She's bringing down an arsehole that thinks he's already won and has attacked someone he considers his lesser in the house multiple times just because he thinks he can. Jack is deeply unpleasant and he deserves the fall that Nikki is setting up for him. She isn't REALLY even doing anything in fairness. It's his ego that doing all the work.

You're oversimplifying things to suit your own argument. I'm not a hypocrite for judging Helen for her behavior, I'd be hypocritical if I attacked her looks, or branded her Moira Hindley, or calling her a peado or if I said anything that Helen has done recently. Judging someone on their behavior is fine, Helen is a twat because she's acted like a twat. What Helen does is vicious and uncalled for and totally different.

Try again, dear.

Why is bringing up something bad she did in BB7 any different from loving her for her funny moments in BB7? If you're telling me that you've disregarded everything from BB7 and are basing your opinion on her purely on her time in BB16, I find that hard to believe. Her past BB stints are either relevant or they're not, and that goes for all of it.

On top of that, you didn't specify in your post that you're referring simply to BB16. You commented on her being simply mischevious and harmless (a comment that seemed to be a general observation not limited to one timeframe), so I provided what I believe to be evidence of the contrary.

Do I think her being a spiteful piece of work in BB7 defines her as a person for the rest of her life? No, but I'm talking in terms of how I view her as a housemate, my opinion of which is soured by times like the one I mentioned. If people are entitled to recite "WHO IS SHE?!" 9 years later, others are equally entitled to hold an opinion on her less-acclaimed moments.

Jack having an ego doesn't at all change or take away from what Nikki's doing. I don't disagree about Jack, but I don't believe that, because of my negative opinion of him, unecessary spitefulness is warranted.

And Nikki herself isn't a stranger to having an ego and openly considering someone else her lesser ... it just so happens that, like with Jack, the person on the receiving end happens to be (rightfully) unpopular, while Nikki is very popular, so it was applauded.

Nikki has done nothing wrong I really don't get it

You were right first time ...sacked...

You don't have to be from the north to know Myra Hindley. Everyone knows who she is and it was a despicable thing to say. Am I surprised? No, not at all.

Helen and Marc are getting boring to watch.

I'll wait til tonight to judge but feels like BB is turning into a 1 trick pony with HMs constantly questioning other HMs.

This thread is further evidence of the Helen effect

So calling Harry a trog is ok and taking the pee while harry was showering,:joker: Ah,ok then

Sit down Sherlock:smug:

It's true though she creates a bad vibe whenever she's around

It should be obvious to anyone that it's my opinion....

:joker: @ people just noticing this a year later

Hellen is like a black hole of fun. She can truly ruin anything (like these past two BB series)

To be fair to Helen, the producers already murdered this series weeks ago.

They just invited Nikki, Helen and Brian to party on its grave.

Dead right it is and you can have it

Helen winning doesn't contradict a thing they said, and if the only way to rebuff it is to bring up that she won without actually addressing the points made against her, it's quite revealing of the lack of actual viable defences of Helen.

Winning isn't exactly a mark of a good housemate, there's literally only been a handful of good winners and Helen certainly wasn't one of them.

:facepalm:

Correct me if I am wrong but isn't the winner the one who gets the most votes, love and adoration and the one that people paid loads of money to see them lifting the crown. *******igh got a few votes and a handful of green shield stamps for her troubles and now all of a sudden she is more relevant than a past winner. I don't get that one, sorry.

If Helen is so loved then why does so many people hate her? Why did she enter the house this year to a chorus of boos?

Sam was the winner of BB14 yet no one talks about him as being a factor in that year, it was all about Dexter, Gina and Hazel that year. Nikki is infinitely more popular than Pete, the list goes on. The HMS that don't win are nearly always more loved than the winner because big characters don't tend to win, the boring nice people do. Helen only won because the Producers manipulated her 'journey' every step of the way. She wouldn't have made it past the first week without that pass.

No,its your opinion ,that doesn't make it a fact or even true

No she doesn't ,are you are around her 24 hours a day,infact we all know very little about how she is from day to day,she is not and angel,but who out of us is,she's gobby ,opinionated and so are we,she is mistaken sometimes,she is an imperfect human being,exactly the same as we all are,you may not like her,others do,that's life.people can slate her all they like,it will not make a jot of difference to her,it pisses me off sometimes the way people act as though they are faultless but are so quick to condone other people for stuff they have probably done themselves at some point.