[sungrass]

Helen was such a mistake. Last years show should be burried and forever forgotten. THIS WEEK It HAD SO MUCH POTENTIAL and they ve just flushed it down the toilet


The production and editing should be ashamed

I Love Brian - Nikki is entertaining - but that other rotten cow - ruined it. WHAT WAS IN THEIR HEADS bringing her back in? Her voice! Her awful face. Seriously people - I feel SO POWERLESS because I LOVE THE SHOW but I CANT DEAL with anymore of that cow - I really don't want to switch off - but watching her IS DEPRESSING - she is pure BUZZ KILL.


If it wasn't for her this week would be legendary. Everything about Brian Belo is just great. What a Gent.

I hope he walks - that vile thing - I couldnt stand next to it either.

It talks over everyone - all you hear is that dronning voice.
The camera just focuses on its face. Its like its become its show.

I can't stand it.

What is the story here? is it going to leave? after Buzz Killing everyone like last year? is that it

GET IT OUT

[Lostie!]

I'm honestly bemused as to why they'd bring her back. If we needed any more proof that the people in charge have no idea, this is it.

[Jamie89]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

I'm honestly bemused as to why they'd bring her back. If we needed any more proof that the people in charge have no idea, this is it.

I think a thread like this is a good example of why they'd bring Helen back. People talk about her. Doesn't matter if it's good or bad publicity, they'll take any publicity they can get, and Helen being recent and controversial has brought that. It does make a bit of a mockery of the whole "legend" thing, but that was more a marketing ploy than anything else, like, y'know... something that's designed to please the existing fans. We're used to stuff like this by now, right?

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sungrass

Helen was such a mistake. Last years show should be burried and forever forgotten. THIS WEEK It HAD SO MUCH POTENTIAL and they ve just flushed it down the toilet


The production and editing should be ashamed

I Love Brian - Nikki is entertaining - but that other rotten cow - ruined it. WHAT WAS IN THEIR HEADS bringing the whoare back in? Her voice! Her awful face. Seriously people - I feel SO POWERLESS because I LOVE THE SHOW but I CANT DEAL with anymore of that whoare - I really don't want to switch off - but watching her IS DEPRESSING - she is pure BUZZ KILL.


If it wasn't for her this week would be legendary. Everything about Brian Belo is just great. What a Gent.

I hope he walks - that vile thing - I couldnt stand next to it either.

It talks over everyone - all you hear is that dronning voice.
The camera just focuses on its face. Its like its become its show.

I can't stand it.

What is the story here? is it going to leave? after Buzz Killing everyone like last year? is that it

GET IT OUT

(IT = HELEN)

So when Nikki is calling people names and being spiteful,she is entertaining,when Helen does it she's nasty and your post says more about you than anyone else.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

So when Nikki is calling people names and being spiteful,she is entertaining,when Helen does it she's nasty and your post says more about you than anyone else.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

That's such a simplistic outlook to the point that it's incorrect.

Helen is vicious and she's proved this both inside the house and out, she wants to be the Chavs' version of Katie Hopkins but dumber and just generally worse. Nikki's mischievous but ultimately harmless.

Her not-so-pleasant words and actions have surpassed "mischievous but ultimately harmless" a few times. During the Shahbaz saga, she specifically wanted to "hurt him more". How is that merely mischevious and harmless?

As for the present day, I don't think we can say with certainty that her prank on Jack is "harmless". It was certainly mean-spirited (rather than a good-natured prank, which would be more warranted of being branded "mischevious"), and I don't really think building someone up for a greater fall than they're already heading for is "harmless".

I fully agree that Helen is a million times worse, but I really don't get the glossing-over of Nikki's bad traits.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Lostie!

Her not-so-pleasant words and actions have surpassed "mischievous but ultimately harmless" a few times. During the Shahbaz saga, she specifically wanted to "hurt him more". How is that merely mischevious and harmless?

As for the present day, I don't think we can say with certainty that her prank on Jack is "harmless". It was certainly mean-spirited (rather than a good-natured prank, which would be more warranted of being branded "mischevious"), and I don't really think building someone up for a greater fall than they're already heading for is "harmless".

I fully agree that Helen is a million times worse, but I really don't get the glossing-over of Nikki's bad traits.

Citing an event from BB7's first week to drag Nikki ten years later is a bit of a reach. You might have made a dick move ten years ago but that doesn't define who you are now does it?

I wouldn't brand Nikki's actions in the house as anything more than mischievous. She's bringing down an arsehole that thinks he's already won and has attacked someone he considers his lesser in the house multiple times just because he thinks he can. Jack is deeply unpleasant and he deserves the fall that Nikki is setting up for him. She isn't REALLY even doing anything in fairness. It's his ego that doing all the work.

[Lostie!]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

Citing an event from BB7's first week to drag Nikki ten years later is a bit of a reach. You might have made a dick move ten years ago but that doesn't define who you are now does it?

Why is bringing up something bad she did in BB7 any different from loving her for her funny moments in BB7? If you're telling me that you've disregarded everything from BB7 and are basing your opinion on her purely on her time in BB16, I find that hard to believe. Her past BB stints are either relevant or they're not, and that goes for all of it.

On top of that, you didn't specify in your post that you're referring simply to BB16. You commented on her being simply mischevious and harmless (a comment that seemed to be a general observation not limited to one timeframe), so I provided what I believe to be evidence of the contrary.

Do I think her being a spiteful piece of work in BB7 defines her as a person for the rest of her life? No, but I'm talking in terms of how I view her as a housemate, my opinion of which is soured by times like the one I mentioned. If people are entitled to recite "WHO IS SHE?!" 9 years later, others are equally entitled to hold an opinion on her less-acclaimed moments.

Originally Posted by Dezzy

I wouldn't brand Nikki's actions in the house as anything more than mischievous. She's bringing down an arsehole that thinks he's already won and has attacked someone he considers his lesser in the house multiple times just because he thinks he can. Jack is deeply unpleasant and he deserves the fall that Nikki is setting up for him. She isn't REALLY even doing anything in fairness. It's his ego that doing all the work.

Jack having an ego doesn't at all change or take away from what Nikki's doing. I don't disagree about Jack, but I don't believe that, because of my negative opinion of him, unecessary spitefulness is warranted.

And Nikki herself isn't a stranger to having an ego and openly considering someone else her lesser ... it just so happens that, like with Jack, the person on the receiving end happens to be (rightfully) unpopular, while Nikki is very popular, so it was applauded.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy

Please add IMO with calling Nikki mischievous (and please ,she's 34 not 3 ) because a lot of people on here,myself included thinks she's a nasty, vicious little cow

It should be obvious to anyone that it's my opinion....

[chuff me dizzy]

Originally Posted by Dezzy

It should be obvious to anyone that it's my opinion....

Dead right it is and you can have it

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Big deal, I don't think kaz has ever professed to be a saint, it's hypocritical however to say you dislike nasty rude offensive housemates then make rude nasty offensive comments about them

You're oversimplifying things to suit your own argument. I'm not a hypocrite for judging Helen for her behavior, I'd be hypocritical if I attacked her looks, or branded her Moira Hindley, or calling her a peado or if I said anything that Helen has done recently. Judging someone on their behavior is fine, Helen is a twat because she's acted like a twat. What Helen does is vicious and uncalled for and totally different.

Try again, dear.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by sungrass

Helen is from the North right, and last night "whilst bitching" she called Harry 'moira hindley' Im sorry but thats too far. She has no respect - no deceny whatsoever.

Nikki awkwardly laughed - she interupted everytime someone tried to talk - spoke over everyone, made the conversation dark and bitchy and depressing. I could see Brian getting pd off - but he's not gonna argue with her. Good for him if he leaves

She is extremely unpleasant.

This comment made me feel very uncomfortable, she has no filter at all, and is one of the reasons i dislike her.

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

This comment made me feel very uncomfortable, she has no filter at all, and is one of the reasons i dislike her.

oh yeah and then the

"looks like one of those hampsters with the red eyes"

as if its funny??? its not.

- evil - that woman - its disgusting what she says and how she treats people - how could you bare to be around that?

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

It did ,who calls a person IT ? only Steven King as far as I know ,the poster could well have posted Helen it's not hard, even I as bitchy as I am can call Harry,Harry,as much as I don't like her.

look that was a very harsh post from me. i ve got in from work had a coffee and watching catch up. I caught BBOTS last night

the first thing she does is refer to someone as Moira Hindley....its just terribly frustrating to think - last year was actually painful to watch - and they ve put her in again. She won because of that pass - no other reason and a protest vote against Ashleigh or whatever...I do not care.

Someone said "we all do horrible things" I would never say someone looks like an "fing horrible rodent with red eyes evil fing rodent"

She is so awful, Brian is leaving. The man has integretity.


Im sorry but I ve had enough. Sometime you have to stand up for what you believe in, in doing so I shouldnt have lowered myself to her level and for that I apologuise and I regret it. I promise you I could not take money or be famous by being a cow like her. I have too much integrety - something lacking in our society at the moment.

Marc does not realise there is no light in her and there isn't.

Yeah its just a TV show - but it deeply frustrates me that they keep putting her on the screen. They remove Aaron - who wouldnt hurt a fly and keep promoting her.

I shared my opinion to see if others agree. Thats what threads and forums are about.

[Vanessa]

Originally Posted by sungrass

look that was a very harsh post from me. i ve got in from work had a coffee and watching catch up. I caught BBOTS last night

the first thing she does is refer to someone as Moira Hindley....its just terribly frustrating to think - last year was actually painful to watch - and they ve put her in again. She won because of that pass - no other reason and a protest vote against Ashleigh or whatever...I do not care.

Someone said "we all do horrible things" I would never say someone looks like an "fing horrible rodent with red eyes evil fing rodent"

She is so awful, Brian is leaving. The man has integretity.


Im sorry but I ve had enough. Sometime you have to stand up for what you believe in, in doing so I shouldnt have lowered myself to her level and for that I apologuise and I regret it. I promise you I could not take money or be famous by being a cow like her. I have too much integrety - something lacking in our society at the moment.

Marc does not realise there is no light in her and there isn't.

Yeah its just a TV show - but it deeply frustrates me that they keep putting her on the screen. They remove Aaron - who wouldnt hurt a fly and keep promoting her.

I shared my opinion to see if others agree. Thats what threads and forums are about.

[rubymoo]

Just said this on another thread...they should never have sent them in, they've had their time, they've completely spoilt it!

I love Brian, what a decent guy, Nikki is getting on my nerves and Helen....words can't express how much i dislike her

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Just said this on another thread...they should never have sent them in, they've had their time, they've completely spoilt it!

I love Brian, what a decent guy, Nikki is getting on my nerves and Helen....words can't express how much i dislike her

I never wanted any old housemates back,it was a silly and bad decision,they have all done their time.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

I never wanted any old housemates back,it was a silly and bad decision,they have all done their time.

Putting old housemates back in has taken the limelight off the other HM's, whoever came up with this idea should be sacked (ok a bit harsh....maybe they should have toilet cleaning duty for such a bad decision)

And now the forum is full of Helen threads....come on...we did all this last year

[sungrass]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Putting old housemates back in has taken the limelight off the other HM's, whoever came up with this idea should be sacked (ok a bit harsh....maybe they should have toilet cleaning duty for such a bad decision)

And now the forum is full of Helen threads....come on...we did all this last year

I dont want to mention it and give it threads - but I cant believe the producers put it back in.

what can we do? we just have to suffer it or not watch.

Im waiting for it to go but believe me it wont be any fun while its in there.

[Will.]

ratings have improved so it means people aren't bothered by Helen.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Putting old housemates back in has taken the limelight off the other HM's, whoever came up with this idea should be sacked (ok a bit harsh....maybe they should have toilet cleaning duty for such a bad decision)

And now the forum is full of Helen threads....come on...we did all this last year

We did,and I am a Helen fan,but even I can see her time was done,no old housemates should re-enter,I do wish though, that one,just ONE Helen hater would concede that she is not to blame for all that's bad in BB,others have been nasty too,but at the moment,all the world and his wife are blaming Helen,if anyone is to blame it's BB.

[rubymoo]

Originally Posted by Kazanne

We did,and I am a Helen fan,but even I can see her time was done,no old housemates should re-enter,I do wish though, that one,just ONE Helen hater would concede that she is not to blame for all that's bad in BB,others have been nasty too,but at the moment,all the world and his wife are blaming Helen,if anyone is to blame it's BB.

Helen is not to blame for all that is bad in BB.

Helen is to blame for Helen

Others have been nasty, but Helen takes nastiness to a whole new level, she has learnt nothing from her journey in last years BB and it drives me crazy when she doesn't listen to others points, i know there are a lot of people that are similar to Helen but her lack of self awareness and compassion are astounding.

The irony of her calling someone for bitching whilst she's listening in and bitching about them

Thank god there's only 1 Helen, and hopefully after Friday she will never grace our screens again!

[rocket]

Originally Posted by rubymoo

Putting old housemates back in has taken the limelight off the other HM's, whoever came up with this idea should be sacked (ok a bit harsh....maybe they should have toilet cleaning duty for such a bad decision)

And now the forum is full of Helen threads....come on...we did all this last year

You were right first time ...sacked...

[sungrass]

Yeah good point.

CHeck out all my other posts. I spend most of my time sticking up for people.

I hate HELEN because she is a BUZZ KILL and represents everything about humanity that ruins it.

Nikki isnt. Nikki is not INTIMIDATING - the ammount of times Helen is described as such is extremely numerous - and because she is like this people close up around her and become depressed - last year was SO DEPRESSING. Her pass to the final - give me strength - she is a nothing.

Brian hates Helen not Nikki - same as me

Helen has a hard face - enjoys being hated, courts being hated, likes being a cow, likes being knowing as a bitch etc...no redeeming features at all.

That was FAR my harshest post because I am so ANGRY that they have bought it back on air - last year was awful! it was the WORST series ever

HELEN ZAPS the energy and the life from the house -

Nikki doesnt
Marc doesnt
Brian doesnt

there is a 'playfull streak' in their antics and they have a heart - like when Nikki let Brian keep Danny n gave him a hug

Nikki is being horrible to Jack because he is fat and she is an anorexic (very simple)
Jack can handle that

HELEN brings down the mood of the ENTIRE house she is in - thats how negative she is.

[Kazanne]

Originally Posted by sungrass

Yeah good point.

CHeck out all my other posts. I spend most of my time sticking up for people.

I hate HELEN because she is a BUZZ KILL and represents everything about humanity that ruins it.

Nikki isnt. Nikki is not INTIMIDATING - the ammount of times Helen is described as such is extremely numerous - and because she is like this people close up around her and become depressed - last year was SO DEPRESSING. Her pass to the final - give me strength - she is a nothing.

Brian hates Helen not Nikki - same as me

Helen has a hard face - enjoys being hated, courts being hated, likes being a cow, likes being knowing as a bitch etc...no redeeming features at all.

That was FAR my harshest post because I am so ANGRY that they have bought it back on air - last year was awful! it was the WORST series ever

HELEN ZAPS the energy and the life from the house -

Nikki doesnt
Marc doesnt
Brian doesnt

there is a 'playfull streak' in their antics and they have a heart - like when Nikki let Brian keep Danny n gave him a hug

Nikki is being horrible to Jack because he is fat and she is an anorexic (very simple)
Jack can handle that

HELEN brings down the mood of the ENTIRE house she is in - thats how negative she is.

Brian wont hate on Nikki as she is supposedly a BB icon so he wont go against the,nice guy ,but a bit lily livered.