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Paul Kersey 09-01-2016 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Will1999 (Post 8408227)
He starts rambling on about stuff that has nothing to do with it.

Wanna kill him? Hang him?

Jason. 09-01-2016 08:53 PM

It's because he's a politician. Most of them do the same thing. Having irrelevant answers to questions so they don't look as bad. :rolleyes:

MrWong 09-01-2016 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8408363)
Because you are deliberately, with forethought, putting a child in a home without a mother.

How the **** can that be a good thing?

Would you rather they stay in a childrens home with no mother or father?

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell (Post 8408530)
Its certainly not unhealthy? What about all those hundreds of people who have abusive mothers who beat up their children? Two dads and two mums can do just as good as a job as a man and a woman, its the person inside not the persons identity.

Its not a selfish view at all, providing people have one loving parent, that is fine for me.

Children need a mother. That is why nature has seen women giving birth to children and nursing them for the last 100,000 years.

cheapbbfan 09-01-2016 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 8408511)
Its polite to answer a questions when asked. Especially as when asked if he stood by what he said. he said as I recall 'Hell Yes' If he's that adamant he should be able to explain why he takes this stance.

he explained himself in the house. If Emma wanted answers, she should watch the tapes. He was being goaded into saying more controversial stuff so this show would have further material to attack him with. If you give an idiot a rope, they'll hang themselves. He did his best not to let them put him in a position to do that bc anything he would have said would have been met with scrutiny. Opposers of him may want to deny that but you know its true

Will. 09-01-2016 08:58 PM

I'd love to have gay parents, they always seem to bring there children up in such a pleasant manner and go the extra mile.

ALL YOU NEED IS 2 LOVING PARENTS! IT DOESN'T ****ING MATTER ABOUT THEIR GODAMN SEXUALITY, IT MAKES NO DIFFERENCE.

Niamh. 09-01-2016 08:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Shaun (Post 8408409)
For someone so against the gays he sure can't give a straight answer :shrug:


:hehe:

Mitchell 09-01-2016 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8408583)
Children need a mother. That is why nature has seen women giving birth to children and nursing them for the last 100,000 years.

Children need a mother to be born congratulations, doesn't mean that they need a mother and a father does it? I've never felt appreciated with my Dad, I've coped extremely well with one loving parent, so why should a child be denied of loving parents just because they didn't squeeze them out of their fanny? (Obviously lesbians want to adopt too and should be allowed to, more loving parents are what we should be encouraging.)

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by MrWong (Post 8408572)
Would you rather they stay in a childrens home with no mother or father?


No. I would rather they went to a mother and father.

Vicky. 09-01-2016 09:02 PM

Its not just this, he doesn't give a straight answer to anything from what I have seen, always rambly. Very...politician like :p

GiRTh 09-01-2016 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by cheapbbfan (Post 8408591)
he explained himself in the house. If Emma wanted answers, she should watch the tapes. He was being goaded into saying more controversial stuff so this show would have further material to attack him with. If you give an idiot a rope, they'll hang themselves. He did his best not to let them put him in a position to do that bc anything he would have said would have been met with scrutiny. Opposers of him may want to deny that but you know its true

No. HE started waffling on about boxing, his support for the homeless, all Emma did was get him back on track.

As for giving him enough rope to hang himself? No one forced him into saying what he said so I dont get that he was lead in any way or baited. He made his comment with little provocation and failed to stand by them.,

reece(: 09-01-2016 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8408363)
Because you are deliberately, with forethought, putting a child in a home without a mother.

How the **** can that be a good thing?

If a mother was deceased or couldn't handle children and the dad was on his own it would be child abuse?

LukeB 09-01-2016 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by cheapbbfan (Post 8408477)
his view on gay adoption is irrelevant to this show so thats quite fitting

it's only fair since Tila got removed over her comments.

Mitchell 09-01-2016 09:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8408616)
No. I would rather they went to a mother and father.

Its not even worth trying to explain something to you, its obvious you are stuck in your ancient discriminating ways and seem to pride yourself on deciding that gays shouldn't be allowed to adopt, you're probably one of those imbeciles who think gays shouldn't be allowed to donate blood incase they spread gayness

joeysteele 09-01-2016 09:07 PM

He won't give a straight answer because likely the real truth and real answer is he does hold the view that gay adoption is child abuse.
Also that he stands firmly by his distorted and prejudiced comments which by the fact he will not retract any part of it, shows the quote is in fact totally his.

Vicky. 09-01-2016 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by LukeB (Post 8408632)
it's only fair since Tila got removed over her comments.

Which was also quite stupid, as offensive as their views are...they were said/done before BB, and as such producers knew about it before casting them.

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 09:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell (Post 8408637)
Its not even worth trying to explain something to you, its obvious you are stuck in your ancient discriminating ways and seem to pride yourself on deciding that gays shouldn't be allowed to adopt, you're probably one of those imbeciles who think gays shouldn't be allowed to donate blood incase they spread gayness

Nice strawman.

If you are going to make up arguments I have never said then I think we will leave it there.

You said this would be fun so I had high hopes for a decent debate with you. Boy, was I disappointed.

Mitchell 09-01-2016 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8408686)
Nice strawman.

If you are going to make up arguments I have never said then I think we will leave it there.

You said this would be fun so I had high hopes for a decent debate with you. Boy, was I disappointed.

I did have fun actually, it was a right laugh reading you clutching at straws trying to prove to me why adoption by homosexual couples was child abuse, maybe we should meet next week for more fabby fun :)

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Mitchell (Post 8408693)
I did have fun actually, it was a right laugh reading you clutching at straws trying to prove to me why adoption by homosexual couples was child abuse, maybe we should meet next week for more fabby fun :)

You are a glutton for punishment I will give you that.:laugh:

If you think that resorting to "I bet you think all gays have AIDS", like you just did, is winning then I have news for you I'm afraid.

Mitchell 09-01-2016 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by ThriceShy (Post 8408707)
You are a glutton for punishment I will give you that.:laugh:

If you think that resorting to "I bet you think all gays have AIDS", like you just did, is winning then I have news for you I'm afraid.

Did the words "I bet you think all gays have AIDS" come out of my mouth honey? Did I insinuate that in any way what so ever?

If so, you need to get your eyes tested love because you are seeing things that aren't there x

smudgie 09-01-2016 09:21 PM

I want to know why nobody asked him the correct question.he had already answered that he does believe it's wrong and that it could cause child abuse.
Surely the question that should have been asked is what exactly does he mean by abuse?
Is he of the old fashioned opinion that such children would face ridicule and bullying at school and from their peers.
If so, then he needs to understand that the only way to stop this happening is to make it more normal for same sex parenting.
Children are cruel, if a child loses one of its parents due to bereavement they can end up being bullied as well, it is purely down to the ignorance of the other children, they don't like anything different or out of the ordinary that they don't understand, so surely the more they see that it is quite normal and ok for same sex parents the better.
If he is on about any other kind of abuse then I don't have a clue where he gets that skewered idea.
I can understand his Christian upbringing saying its not allowed for man to lay with man etc. in the bible, but I have never heard anything about child abuse in the bible.

ThriceShy 09-01-2016 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 8408712)
I want to know why nobody asked him the correct question.he had already answered that he does believe it's wrong and that it could cause child abuse.
Surely the question that should have been asked is what exactly does he mean by abuse?
Is he of the old fashioned opinion that such children would face ridicule and bullying at school and from their peers.
If so, then he needs to understand that the only way to stop this happening is to make it more normal for same sex parenting.
Children are cruel, if a child loses one of its parents due to bereavement they can end up being bullied as well, it is purely down to the ignorance of the other children, they don't like anything different or out of the ordinary that they don't understand, so surely the more they see that it is quite normal and ok for same sex parents the better.
If he is on about any other kind of abuse then I don't have a clue where he gets that skewered idea.
I can understand his Christian upbringing saying its not allowed for man to lay with man etc. in the bible, but I have never heard anything about child abuse in the bible.


Why should he have to justify his views to anyone?

I certainly wouldn't. I would have said "Its my opinion." And those would have been my last 3 words on the subject.

Vicky. 09-01-2016 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by smudgie (Post 8408712)
I want to know why nobody asked him the correct question.he had already answered that he does believe it's wrong and that it could cause child abuse.
Surely the question that should have been asked is what exactly does he mean by abuse?
Is he of the old fashioned opinion that such children would face ridicule and bullying at school and from their peers.
If so, then he needs to understand that the only way to stop this happening is to make it more normal for same sex parenting.
Children are cruel, if a child loses one of its parents due to bereavement they can end up being bullied as well, it is purely down to the ignorance of the other children, they don't like anything different or out of the ordinary that they don't understand, so surely the more they see that it is quite normal and ok for same sex parents the better.
If he is on about any other kind of abuse then I don't have a clue where he gets that skewered idea.
I can understand his Christian upbringing saying its not allowed for man to lay with man etc. in the bible, but I have never heard anything about child abuse in the bible.

They did ask that, multiple times :laugh:

cheapbbfan 09-01-2016 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by GiRTh (Post 8408621)
No. HE started waffling on about boxing, his support for the homeless, all Emma did was get him back on track.

As for giving him enough rope to hang himself? No one forced him into saying what he said so I dont get that he was lead in any way or baited. He made his comment with little provocation and failed to stand by them.,

Because he didnt want to answer and he should have been straight forward with that. If I were him, Id have told Emma straight up that I no longer wanted to talk about that subject. We can discuss my time in the house. Next.

he never said that in the house. It was completely irrelevant to the game and should have never been brought into this. He has NO reason to justify anything he said or did outside of this house. Had he been going around telling that comment to others in the house, it would have been a different story but he chose to keep his opinions to himself till BB forced this upon him. He doesnt need to respond to that

smudgie 09-01-2016 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 8408727)
They did ask that, multiple times :laugh:

I must have missed it, multiple times.
All I could hear was did he say it, why did he say it, not what he actually meant by abuse.


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