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Old 09-01-2016, 08:22 PM #1
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He starts rambling on about stuff that has nothing to do with it.

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I agree with Winston so what is it you want an answer to?
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Hello Thrice, so what part of Gay adoption is child abuse? Thats what I really want to know, what part of children being scared, hurt, injured and tormented physically and mentally is comparable to putting them in a house with two loving parents?
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Hello Thrice, so what part of Gay adoption is child abuse? Thats what I really want to know, what part of children being scared, hurt, injured and tormented physically and mentally is comparable to putting them in a house with two loving parents?
Do you think a child having no mum is healthy? Would you deliberately put a child into such a situation?

I keep hearing that everyone has the right to have children. The fact is that that is a selfish view. Children have the right to a mother.
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Do you think a child having no mum is healthy? Would you deliberately put a child into such a situation?

I keep hearing that everyone has the right to have children. The fact is that that is a selfish view. Children have the right to a mother.
But the children in care who would be adopted have no parents. It is selfish of you to deny children a loving home.
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I keep hearing that everyone has the right to have children. The fact is that that is a selfish view. Children have the right to a mother.
Its certainly not unhealthy? What about all those hundreds of people who have abusive mothers who beat up their children? Two dads and two mums can do just as good as a job as a man and a woman, its the person inside not the persons identity.

Its not a selfish view at all, providing people have one loving parent, that is fine for me.
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Its certainly not unhealthy? What about all those hundreds of people who have abusive mothers who beat up their children? Two dads and two mums can do just as good as a job as a man and a woman, its the person inside not the persons identity.

Its not a selfish view at all, providing people have one loving parent, that is fine for me.
Children need a mother. That is why nature has seen women giving birth to children and nursing them for the last 100,000 years.
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that's why Emma got frustrated with him, he never gives straight answers or explains things.. he brings up irrelevant stuff
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that's why Emma got frustrated with him, he never gives straight answers or explains things.. he brings up irrelevant stuff
his view on gay adoption is irrelevant to this show so thats quite fitting
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his view on gay adoption is irrelevant to this show so thats quite fitting
it's only fair since Tila got removed over her comments.
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it's only fair since Tila got removed over her comments.
Which was also quite stupid, as offensive as their views are...they were said/done before BB, and as such producers knew about it before casting them.
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it's only fair since Tila got removed over her comments.
No its not. Tila's comments were NOT a part of the game. Did they keep her in the house, expose it to the housemate, make it a storyline and have her blasted over it. Your analogy fails. They removed her from the game; they didnt exploit her past for ratings. To compare it to Tila, he should have been removed from the house prior to eviction night and essentially erased from the program. There is a BIG difference between how Tila was handled and how Winston was and I hope you are able to understand that

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He starts rambling on about stuff that has nothing to do with it.
A common reaction from someone who doesn't know what they're talking about
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Because he knows that his views are awful, so will just say anything in the hope that people back off.
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Ok for those who agree with Winston maybe you can answer the question - why is it abuse for a same sex couple to adopt? Please be specific and highlight why exactly it would be abuse.
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Ok for those who agree with Winston maybe you can answer the question - why is it abuse for a same sex couple to adopt? Please be specific and highlight why exactly it would be abuse.
Because you are deliberately, with forethought, putting a child in a home without a mother.

How the **** can that be a good thing?
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Because you are deliberately, with forethought, putting a child in a home without a mother.

How the **** can that be a good thing?
I don't see an issue so please explain why its bad?
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How the **** can that be a good thing?
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Because you are deliberately, with forethought, putting a child in a home without a mother.

How the **** can that be a good thing?
Just because someone is female doesn't make them a perfect mother, i can think of a lot of child abuse cases where mothers have been the spawn of satan (and i'm not religious).

Just as long as a child has caring parents whether they be a gay couple, a single parent, or those with religious beliefs, as long as the child will be loved and cared for in a secure and loving home, what does it really matter?
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Because you are deliberately, with forethought, putting a child in a home without a mother.

How the **** can that be a good thing?
They don't have a mother in a care home either. And as someone who knows a gay man who's adopted a child, I can assure you that there is plenty of 'forethought'. No one just wakes up one day and says 'I think I'll adopt a kid today, and yipee i'm gay so they won't have a mum'. Life's not a fairy tale mate, and any child in care would be lucky to have a loving home to go to, regardless of how many parents and what gender/sexual orientation they are.
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They don't have a mother in a care home either. And as someone who knows a gay man who's adopted a child, I can assure you that there is plenty of 'forethought'. No one just wakes up one day and says 'I think I'll adopt a kid today, and yipee i'm gay so they won't have a mum'. Life's not a fairy tale mate, and any child in care would be lucky to have a loving home to go to, regardless of how many parents and what gender/sexual orientation they are.
Aye - having worked with kids that have been in care in a vocational college- truthfully they just want a family that loves them, they couldnt care less about them being gay, care is awful and lonely. However Winston was used by CBB and it was a witch hunt, in his culture thats how things are - its like my old nan, she is NOT politically correct! and its like nan - you musn't say that - but shes just an old woman. You should watch a bit of "it was alright in the 70's" - if you ever work with older people the things they will say will really shock you!
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Aye - having worked with kids that have been in care in a vocational college- truthfully they just want a family that loves them, they couldnt care less about them being gay, care is awful and lonely. However Winston was used by CBB and it was a witch hunt, in his culture thats how things are - its like my old nan, she is NOT politically correct! and its like nan - you musn't say that - but shes just an old woman. You should watch a bit of "it was alright in the 70's" - if you ever work with older people the things they will say will really shock you!
Winston is 62, not 82. His formative years were during the 60's which was quite an age of enlightenment. I don't personally know many people under 70 who has views like Winston. Over it, yes, I know quite a few who are scandalized by homosexuality but also others that aren't. Age isn't always an indicator by any means.
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