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DemolitionRed 19-05-2017 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tozzie (Post 9310205)
These figures are 2010

That's why I said in my post it was 2010! 2010 predictions to 2050

Tozzie 19-05-2017 12:53 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9310210)
That's why I said in my post it was 2010! 2010 predictions to 2050

I reckon their predictions are way out

Beso 19-05-2017 12:55 PM

oh for christ sake....**** me.

So people have to prove this and that to get state benifits..


well its about time these gobbledook rligious nutters started proving god is real or whoever the stupid name is that they worship.

only fair.

DemolitionRed 19-05-2017 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Tozzie (Post 9310218)
I reckon their predictions are way out

Maybe so but its the closest predictions I could find.

Withano 19-05-2017 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Tozzie (Post 9310218)
I reckon their predictions are way out

I do too, i think 50-60% will be non-religious in 2050

Niamh. 19-05-2017 01:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9310249)
I do too, i think 50-60% will be non-religious in 2050

Hopefully

jaxie 19-05-2017 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9310209)
Really! where did you hear this?

Where did you hear there are?

Glenn. 19-05-2017 02:51 PM

Religion should be abolished right across the world. No place in this world for such nonsense

jaxie 19-05-2017 04:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 9310280)
Religion should be abolished right across the world. No place in this world for such nonsense

I agree in a sense though where religion does give comfort it is hard to take that from people who need it. However I think that religion should be governed strictly by the other rules of society, particularly regarding discrimination and religious uniforms. It should have no official place in society, politics or education. It should only be allowed to be taught where a balanced view is given.

Brother Leon 19-05-2017 04:11 PM

Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

Denver 19-05-2017 04:13 PM

Make every believe in Buddhism

Withano 19-05-2017 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 9310354)
Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

Agreed

smudgie 19-05-2017 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 9310354)
Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

:clap2: live and let live.

Niamh. 19-05-2017 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 9310354)
Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

I just think it should be seperate from state and education

Alf 19-05-2017 04:53 PM

God is great and powerful.

But he always seems to be short of a bob or two. Forever on the bleeding scrounge.

Glenn. 19-05-2017 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 9310354)
Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

You say this but you know... ISIS

user104658 19-05-2017 05:03 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9310156)
It bewilders me that the oppression of women and girls on that scale is so acceptable to some people in the name of a fantasy deity that men decide to speak for. :shrug:
How do you manage to confuse that with racism?

Because it implies that the majority of Muslims are the "stereotypical tabloid muslim" which is, simply, false. The vast majority of Muslims don't "oppress their women and girls" any more than any other group. That's pretty much standard in the definition of racism, isn't it? Believing negative stereotypes?

Secondly it all plays into the hysteria that "so many Muslims are pouring in!!!" that it's in any way likely to significantly alter the status quo of the whole country. Which is just nonsensical. Especially when - as I said - the fastest growing group is in fact the non-religious.

Thirdly, the worrying trend recently for backwards thinking, and the very real resurgence in active fascism in countries much closer to home, IS an active and ongoing threat to "our values and way of life" but no one seems to care. Too distracted by the scary brown people, I suppose.

Withano 19-05-2017 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 9310381)
You say this but you know... ISIS

Nobody should be allowed to have faith in a higher being because ISIS. Makes sense.

Glenn. 19-05-2017 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9310391)
Nobody should be allowed to have faith in a higher being because ISIS. Makes sense.

ISIS is about because of religion

Lostie! 19-05-2017 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 9310354)
Lol at telling anyone what they should or shouldn't believe in. Atheist shouters sound as bad as the religion nutters. Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

:clap1: :clap1:

Brillopad 19-05-2017 06:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Brother Leon (Post 9310354)
Leave people to believe and practice what they want to as long as it causes you no harm.

Maybe that could work if those people believing and practicing what they want weren't going round threatening to kill all 'non-believers' and in their own country. The arrogance of such people is astounding.

Their attitude is harmful, maybe not to you as a man, but to Muslim and non-Muslim women alike. Any religion with such beliefs cannot be allowed to prosper in the West.

Withano 19-05-2017 06:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 9310408)
ISIS is about because of religion

So?.. your problem should be with ISIS, not with religion. You should be able to separate the two things, literally everybody else can.

Brillopad 19-05-2017 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9310429)
So?.. your problem should be with ISIS, not with religion. You should be able to separate the two things, literally everybody else can.

Religous doctrine created ISIS. It allowed/encouraged men to interpret its religous views of 'female modesty' in such a way as to make it accepable to imprison and control them to achieve it. Religous doctrine sowed that seed in my opinion.

Denver 19-05-2017 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Glenn. (Post 9310408)
ISIS is about because of religion

The bible also tells people to kill

Withano 19-05-2017 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9310441)
Religous doctrine created ISIS. It allowed/encouraged men to interpret its religous views of 'female modesty' in such a way as to make it accepable to imprison and control them to achieve it. Religous doctrine sowed that seed in my opinion.

This isnt relevant to the point anybody was making..

but since you brought it up, do you think the worst thing about ISIS is their treatment of females?


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