Realism?.... Where are the costings, where is the analysis from the IFS?

How can you not be referred to as gullible when again like brexit all you have is blind faith to guide you?

'Prime minister what are your plans for social care?'.... ' Er, um, well a strong and stable government knows social care means social care, and I've been very clear on that'. :/

i'm sorry but can i say that i find Theresa May such a nice lady :hee:

i prefer her above miss angela merkel :(

Theresa may is the best that Britain has to offer, and i agree she is not good.

but the rest are much worse.

:joker: it's worrying close to what she comes out with

Spot on smudgie, memories of a goldfish some folks,I would hate the job of PM,it's not cushy by any means , no one can please everyone,we should all work together to make our standard of living good,but some just seem to be out for what they can get for free:nono: and the name calling of opposite party leaders is quite childish,good post smudglet.:hee:

That is a very good impersonation:laugh:

yeah well maybe she just needs time, and yeah the rest are really worse choices for UK :(

She needs time alright,to clear off with her deceit and lies,her word meaning not a jot and with the extreme heartless policies she presides over and the truly vile things she supports too.
Time to clear off and hold those rotten cruel views but somewhere where she cannot implement them.

She's totally false,a liar and truly cruel individual who is not only not fit to be Prime Minister but also not fit for any major public office whatsoever.

The problem with the left is that they don't have anything to offer either. The last Labour government left the country in a financial mess we've been paying for ever since. In the manifesto they make big promises that are far from realistic. They have a weak and ineffectual leader who makes May look a very positive option by comparison. His whole shadow cabinet walked out at one point because none of them had any faith in him. They throw around talk of 'New Labour as if it was some other party when many of those MPs are still there.

Politics in this country is a mess and there isn't a whole lot of choice to make that better. Though in my view the Tories have their act together far more than Labour do.

At least she hasn't hob-nobbed with the IRA which out-does anything you can accuse May of. Such behaviour is definely not fit for any major public office.

It's not been costed by an independent source which is more relevant tbh. Trotting out figures without the back-up of independent scrutiny and opinon means little.

We'd always have been paying some way for the mess that came in 2007/8.
No matter what govt had been in.
Before that crash Labour had presided over an unprecedented 10 years of growth, began by John Major's govt in 1997.

What Labour failed to do was prepare for really bad times,however no one saw the banking crash coming.
The Cons between 2005 and 2010 criticised Labour for regulating the Banks too much,the Cons wanted the Banks regulated less.

The crash was coming whether Labour,Conservative or coalition were in govt.
It affected near all the major Nations.

Labour chose a financial path to deal with it,the Cons would have likely,as they did near all through the 80s,chosen lost working lives with very high unemployment again.
Human cost over financial cost.
Labour rightly or wrongly chose a financial cost.

It's not about short memories but simply being fair,no matter how good any govt may have been up to 2007/8,Labour or Conservative.
That banking issue and crash would still have hit extremely hard with hard consequences,no matter what path was chosen to help solve it.

It hasn't been costed by anyone, how can an independent source cost it if they haven't been told where the money is coming from?... :/

So people will be voting blindly, on pure faith. Unproven policies based on unproven figures. Rather you than me.

She's utterly woeful. Nothing but catchphrases and platitudes.

But still with more information than we have had from the current govt... on ANYTHING.

I'd say the blind vote would be a vote for the Tories given the amount of vague and straight up misinformation they've put forth thus far. How can May be believed on anything when she u-turns on everything?

We at least know what Corbyn's goals are and that, if they don't come to fruition then at least things won't change. We cannot say the same for Reverse Thatcher.

Are we STILL on this, nearly 10 years later? It was a GLOBAL recession. Global!

G-L-O-B-A-L, world-wide, international, planetary, affecting every country.

Caused by irresponsibility in the financial and banking sectors.

GLOBALLY.

It wasn't "caused by Labour" ffs.

What are the Con policies though. Reduce corporation tax and take the home you paid for with taxed earnings seem to be the stand out ones

At the end of the day I guess whoever we vote for will be risky. Personally I feel safer with the tories than labour. At this moment in time I feel the election is less important than Brexit, if after four years they fail to deliver we can get them out.

My particular concerns are for Brexit which is more imminent and I feel May is more likely to get a better deal, one that deals with the issues that led to many voting for Brexit in the first place.

Corbyn didn't and doesn't want Brexit - he will simply negotiate a deal that suits the EU and him. Not much will change.

I think Corbyn himself actually does want Brexit.He's been Euroskeptic for all his career.
That's why remainers were pissed at him for his lacklustre campaigning for remain.It's the Blairites in the party who are mainly remainiacs.

You're probably right that Corbyn won't really do much, but wouldn't you rather that than May who's gonna create issues for the country with her policies?

BIB, the financial mess was the recession that George W Bush's party caused in America as their Banks went a-wall.

Some people just don't want to get that TS; just as they don't want to believe Corbyn wasn't hobnobbing it with the IRA. They may not have a bullet for their gun but that doesn't stop them carrying that gun. If they've lost their ammunition, the gun can still intimidate and perhaps persuade people.

Oh my, what a horrid thought.