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Crimson Dynamo 25-09-2017 01:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9634719)
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I find it interesting that all of their votes came from the East there (in blue). is there a reason for that?

If I'm not mistaken, the system is quite similar to ours and Merkel (as the clear winner) needs to team up with others to get 50%, but the party that came in 2nd (SPD) aren't interested

So Merkel (centre-right) will likely form a coalition with FDP (centre) and Green (centre left), which seems kinda messy

I think the blue goes well with the black but the red is too harsh, in my eyes to work?

lime 25-09-2017 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9634723)
Way to go use criminal genocide to describe people who simply want control of their borders. Emotive low act to use such a terrible atrocity to attack differing opinions on a website. :rolleyes:

I'm hoping you are naive brillo..Do you just support AFD because some of their manifesto is concerned about migration which is a reasonble concern...that's fine...but have you read their whole manisfesto and seen the fllyers they have circulated......it's not me that's runnig an emotive campaign....that's the far right AFD

DemolitionRed 25-09-2017 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by AProducer'sWetDream (Post 9634681)
I mostly agree with this, though I would say that some on the left (I include myself in the left) have a tendancy to somewhat villanise the rich in a way that allienates some voters who consider themselves to be in the centre.

Many more people would support increasing taxes on the very wealthy, for example, if we made a pragmatic case about why it would be good for the economy to redistribute wealth to those who would spend it rather than those who hide it in an offshore bank account. Rather than an emotional case i.e. those awful bankers don't deserve to earn that much money!

I'm with you all the way on this.

Another problem and I mention this because further on you mention peoples economic anxieties relating to immigration. In London and its now starting to move outside London to cities like Bristol and Bath, very wealthy foreigners are snapping up properties. When I worked as an estate agent, it wasn't uncommon for someone in China, Saudi or Russia to purchase a multi £million property in Mayfair or an entire block of new build flats in Richmond without so much as seeing the property. Many of these house purchases have never stepped foot on our shores. What this inevitably does is push the price of housing up to unaffordable levels, making it less and less affordable for those who are genuinely seeking homes to live in. It was bad when I worked in the property market but I've been assured its now out of control. Streets in London that not long ago were affordable to the 10 percent are now mostly owned by foreign investors. People need to understand the domino effect this is having on the property market.

I'm not so much worried about the immigrants who are here but I'm very concerned about the wealthy foreigners using so much of our housing stock for investment purposes.

Tom4784 25-09-2017 03:06 PM

Fear and ignorance will always give rise to extremist parties.

Nicky91 25-09-2017 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 9634745)
I think the blue goes well with the black but the red is too harsh, in my eyes to work?

it's about politics not colours :smug:

Brillopad 25-09-2017 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9634854)
Fear and ignorance will always give rise to extremist parties.

Like the far-left.

Niamh. 25-09-2017 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9634228)
I think it's possibly a reflection of their frustration more than anything, ukip was the same sort of thing.

whatever the reason for it, those who voted for those racists are the ones who put them there

Crimson Dynamo 25-09-2017 04:27 PM

for as long as i genuinely can remember people have been banging on about the rise of the right but as usual its just a fad and nowt happens

arista 25-09-2017 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 9634197)
https://amp.theguardian.com/commenti...-radical-right

Chose this link to open a discussion on the results of the German elections.


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bots 25-09-2017 09:05 PM

That's us had the elections in France and now Germany. In both cases, 18 months ago they were predicting the right wing would win. It hasn't happened. A rise in support means nothing unless it brings real power with it. People know this, and therefore feel comfortable registering a protest vote in the knowledge that it won't really change anything. People try and make news out of it, but it isn't really news at all.

Tom4784 25-09-2017 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9634941)
Like the far-left.

What does the mythical far left have to do with the rise of a racist, homophobic and sexist extremist party?

jaxie 25-09-2017 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 9634982)
whatever the reason for it, those who voted for those racists are the ones who put them there

I wasn't saying they didn't put them there. :shrug:

Brillopad 25-09-2017 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9635702)
What does the mythical far left have to do with the rise of a racist, homophobic and sexist extremist party?

Mythical far-left. :joker: Proof how in denial you are.

Tom4784 25-09-2017 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9635772)
Mythical far-left. :joker: Proof how in denial you are.

You didn't answer my question.

Brillopad 25-09-2017 10:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9635785)
You didn't answer my question.

There's only one racist, sexist and homophobic group on the rise that I can think of.

Tom4784 25-09-2017 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9635803)
There's only one racist, sexist and homophobic group on the rise that I can think of.

Not what I asked.

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 9635702)
What does the mythical far left have to do with the rise of a racist, homophobic and sexist extremist party?



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