No, that's what you'd call, my opinion.

can't be having one of them :fist:

Oh go on... everyone else has got one.

Couldn't agree more. The government didn't kill the boy... It's a sad, sad tragedy, and this was just the final straw for him.

Of course I did before you commence with the trolling, the effects of that were evident IMO.

Who said they did?! :/

Well then that's totally fine then obviously, like you said you're no psychologist.

Nobody. That comment wasn't supposed to be taken literally.

You don't have to be a psychologist to see that this man had problems if he couldn't cope with the repercussions of not paying a parking fine.

That was my point.

For clarification.

Because I think you take everything I say quite literally.

I think the person who is at odds with just about every poster in the thread in some desperate attempt to pin this politically may be the one who could be considered "trolling"

:idc:

You had already clarified it was your opinion, no further clarification was necessary I was perfectly satisfied with that.

How odd that you used the word literally... I literally used that myself yesterday and Ashley used it just then... That's literally quite spooky isn't it?

You make no sense when you're trying wildly to justify your comments.

'At odds'? I had an OPINION on council funding and there began some accusation...
I have never let other posters manipulate my feeling on any issue and am perfectly capable of reasoning my thoughts on any given topic thank you.

That's really quite sad. I have been known to change my mind after a compelling argument from someone. Otherwise I'd be imagining I'm always right. Which I'm not.

I don't have to justify my comments to you, derailing the thread as can happen when you get bogged down in these kinds of discussions isn't wise. I think I've made my point.

And yet you try so hard.

And yes, you've made your point. The government is to blame.

Then that would come after the reasoning of the thoughts wouldn't it? My point was I don't blindly follow the majority view.

I know very well you're not always right but It's very noble of you to admit it. Thank you.

And very ignoble that you don't.

Yes its a sad story

I'm leaving the discussion as I feel this comment is baiting. My view on this was clarified earlier.

Whatever...

Yeah I agree with this. It may have been what finally pushed him over the edge, but if it was not this fine it could be something equally as trivial.

when you are desperate you mind is not always thinking to its best ability and for these sharks to exploit your weakness - shame on them.

horrid story.

There is no shame in collecting a legal debt

there is however shame in avoiding paying one

A lot of these parking tickets are not fines, at least in the legal sense, they are invoices. An official ticket (that normally now arrives by post) will have the heading, "Penalty Charge Notice". An unofficial ticket will have the heading, "Parking Charge Notice". I've had a ticket (not a fine) in my place of work for not properly displaying my parking pass. I disputed this with my employers/land owners and it was cancelled.

People need to learn the difference between a fine and an invoice because as long as its not something selfish, like blocking access or parking in a disabled zone without a disabled badge, you can usually get those tickets cancelled.