People who can legally avoid paying tax will always be a problem, regardless. Romania has flat rate tax and its probably one of the biggest tax abusers in Europe.

And Texas has no income tax at all, and they have a budget surplus.

To summerise thick as pig**** ignorant people who believe these soundbites are the ones who feed on headlines such as 'they will spend all the money'... 'benefit scroungers earn more than you' vote out and we can spent £350 million on the NHS' While the rest of us are like....Aw come on!!!! Are you really swallowing this baloney?!

Indeed but that isn't country wide. We could devolve tax powers to certain parts of the UK but I think we could only do that with land taxes.

Who are you even addressing, I don't think anyone said anything like that in this thread.

I'm addressing the nation.

So true! Unfortunately it’s not cool enough or too much like hard work for those who want it NOW. Short-term thinking for short-term gain. Unfortunately many of the short-term thinkers then envy the long-term thinkers for their more astute thinking and want to do them down.

What are you - a priminister in waiting. :hehe:

There’s only one kind of understanding in your book.

No, just a concerned citizen.

My understanding is to be open minded with people who have taken their time to learn a subject and not tolerate one trick ponies who don't understand how to be diplomatic, have little understanding of their subject matter and want to shout about it anyway.

Only this morning I fully took on board what Jet said in another thread. His words, put across in an eloquent and thoughtful way, had me re-think my thoughts about Irelands political parties.
There have been numerous occasions when both NorthernMonkey and Bitontheslide have heavily debated things I didn't initially agree with but was later swayed round to their way of thinking.

Have you got any examples of when you had your views on a subject changed?

And you wonder why people accuse you of being ignorant.

Ignorant people who call others ignorant don’t count.

I haven't misread this snipe.