Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9913981)

I am ****ed if there is another election soon. I cannot vote Labour as they are a mess and are actively trying to remove the rights of women. I cannot vote for a party that are trying to remove my rights, and the rights of my daughter..obviously.

However I cannot vote for the Tories either. As they are actively ****ing my life, as a disabled and not very well off person.

Anything else is a wasted vote really. And near all other parties support 'self-ID', the only party I am aware of that do not back this ridiculous proposal is UKIP, and hell will freeze over before I vote for them.

So yeah, politically homeless. First timer ever, and it does not feel good.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9913981)

I am ****ed if there is another election soon. I cannot vote Labour as they are a mess and are actively trying to remove the rights of women. I cannot vote for a party that are trying to remove my rights, and the rights of my daughter..obviously.

However I cannot vote for the Tories either. As they are actively ****ing my life, as a disabled and not very well off person.

Anything else is a wasted vote really. And near all other parties support 'self-ID', the only party I am aware of that do not back this ridiculous proposal is UKIP, and hell will freeze over before I vote for them.

So yeah, politically homeless. First timer ever, and it does not feel good.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9913985)

Vote SNP Vicky. Road trip!

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9913996)

Though I would prefer to live in Scotland tbh, at least they are cushioned from the endless cuts to ill people. Only a few miles up the road, but more snow and colder weather..hmm

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 9913999)

Not really, unfortunately the benefits system isn't devolved (yet) so Westminster policy still dictates things like DLA / PIP / Universal Credit. I do find that generally, at least, Scottish politicians are far more sympathetic to disabilities, disabled rights and mental health, though, so far fewer hurdles with day to day things and less of the "everyone is just a scrounger!" attitudes. In terms of actual income though, the cuts have been the same.

Originally Posted by Withano (Post 9913820)

Yeh it would be a bit daft to only look at one poll result, it would be better to look at the last ten or fifteen, which show a large majority of Labour wins, and very few tory wins.
Take into consideration how right-leaning the polls tended to be before the election and brexit too, and the picture looks very different.

I'm a bit confused why you made this thread now? Seems a bit baity if it wasnt supposed to be a discussion on the poll results afterall.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9913838)

Interesting that Greens are ahead of UKIP on that poll.

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9913920)

UKIP have been thrown into the long grass. The Greens are definitely a party I'd support if and when they come up with a decent leader.

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9914003)

Ah, I was under the impression that it was different there. ****. I cannot escape then D:

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9913981)

I am ****ed if there is another election soon. I cannot vote Labour as they are a mess and are actively trying to remove the rights of women. I cannot vote for a party that are trying to remove my rights, and the rights of my daughter..obviously.

However I cannot vote for the Tories either. As they are actively ****ing my life, as a disabled and not very well off person.

Anything else is a wasted vote really. And near all other parties support 'self-ID', the only party I am aware of that do not back this ridiculous proposal is UKIP, and hell will freeze over before I vote for them.

So yeah, politically homeless. First time ever, and it does not feel good.

Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 9915425)

..I guess how I’m thinking about it, Vicky...is it won’t be a ‘wasted vote’ for me even though it won’t have any impact on a government at this moment in time or in any near future in my lifetime, quite possibly...but unless those ‘wasted votes’ also happen and grow more and more in their collective thoughts...?...then there will only be two possibilities to consider and the same potential dilemma as generations go on etc...so it’s more a ‘future vote’ of potential options as opposed to a ‘wasted vote’...a future of more balance and centre that we need so much...

Originally Posted by Vicky. (Post 9915643)

Yeah I guess. the lib dems seemed to be creeping up as a realistic option, until Clegg ****ed all the students and went back on the one pledge that probably won them more votes than any other pledge combined :laugh:

I think I will probably end up voting independent, come voting time, if we have any independant candidates (from memory last time we had 4 labour 3 tory a lib dem and a ukip). No chance at all, but I would not really feel right not voting AT ALL given everything people have done to ensure I have the option to vote

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9915646)

Sounds like an ideal opportunity for you to stand yourself Vicky. Go for it, you have plenty time to prepare

Originally Posted by reece(: (Post 9914751)

Caroline is the best party leader going!

Originally Posted by Brillopad (Post 9913669)

https://yougov.co.uk/news/categories/voting-intention/

Not changed much, as expected - 43% Labour and 41% Tories. Considerably more reliable than the Mirror stating 44% Labour and 37% Tories - a huge 5% difference. Who would you believe?

Originally Posted by DemolitionRed (Post 9913920)

UKIP have been thrown into the long grass. The Greens are definitely a party I'd support if and when they come up with a decent leader.

Originally Posted by Mystic Mock (Post 9917289)

I don't mind the Greens either, it's just I didn't think that UKIP would be losing to them on an opinion poll, even if it's just one poll.:laugh:

Originally Posted by bitontheslide (Post 9917297)

UKIP are no longer a serious party and neither are the greens. At best they will manage 1 seat in parliament. They are both wasted votes. So it really doesn't matter where they are relative to each other as neither are going to do anything.