The footage is here: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...#ixzz5AT6Y83EX

As I suggested might have been the case earlier in the thread, it appears that there is little that could have been done to prevent the accident as the woman does only appear very suddenly with no time to brake

According to his she walked out of darkness infront of this car,so maybe both at fault.
https://www.msn.com/en-gb/news/world...cid=spartanntp

...wow...sadly I doubt that could have been avoided at all..self drive or no self drive, with wearing black in the dark as well../...tragic..:sad:..

It looks dark, but then driving at night your eyes can adjust and you can detect movement in your peripheral vision... it's hazard perception isn't it? At night you are more aware of this as there are less distractions, It also helps if you look where you are going.

is the car electric?

Looking at the video, if she walked into the road out of nowhere then there's no way anyone could have stopped, robot or not. However I don't know much about how far these cars sensors extend. Do they only "see" the road around them? Because if so then what Kizzy says is right... a human driver may well have been "aware" of her at the side of the road or looking like she might go onto it. Also humans can pick up on erratic behaviour and adjust accordingly... an AI can't possibly know if someone is behaving "weirdly" or unpredictably.

But yeah... also, she does just walk out right in front of it. She can't possibly have looked / must have been distracted. Whether or not the car is electric is relevant too because they're so quiet... and people have grown up hearing cars coming as well as seeing them, so if all is quiet people assume they can walk out without looking properly.

thats what i mean she was relatively old so would be relying on sound to warn her

All the components of a Serious Debates thread in this story :ninja2:

" It is not known when she transitioned to female. "

they must have seen the video as well...

'The footage “strongly suggests a failure by Uber’s automated driving system and a lack of due care by Uber’s driver”, Bryant Walker Smith, a University of South Carolina law school professor and autonomous vehicle expert, said in an email. He noted that the victim is visible about two seconds before the collision, saying: “This is similar to the average reaction time for a driver. That means an alert driver may have at least attempted to swerve or brake.”

The car was traveling at 38 miles per hour at 10pm on Sunday, according to the Tempe police chief, Sylvia Moir, who told a reporter that she thought the video showed Uber was not at fault. Experts who reviewed the footage, however, said the opposite appeared to be true.

“I really don’t understand why Lidar didn’t pick this up,” said Ryan Calo, a University of Washington law professor and self-driving expert. “This video does not absolve Uber.”

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-crash-arizona