[arista]

Ref: BBCnewsHD and SkyNewsHD.



had to happen.....

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-arizona-tempe
she later died in hospital.

http://myfox8.com/2018/03/19/woman-h...-driving-uber/

[Northern Monkey]

That’s the thing about self drive cars.The testing phase is dangerous.How many people have to die before its perfected.

[LeatherTrumpet]

Not Ant testing uber cars as a sideline?

[Kizzy]

AI bye bye

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Not Ant testing uber cars as a sideline?

Oh no you di-ant

[Northern Monkey]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

AI bye bye

AI is scary or Atleast will be.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Northern Monkey

AI is scary or Atleast will be.

Doesn't look like it's even nearly a thing... all the scaremongering at lorry drivers that in 5yrs they'll have to retrain or be out of a job?.... no chance!

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Not Ant testing uber cars as a sideline?

[Brillopad]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Doesn't look like it's even nearly a thing... all the scaremongering at lorry drivers that in 5yrs they'll have to retrain or be out of a job?.... no chance!

Thank Christ for that. Driverless cars - men self-identifying as women - one big car-crash after another!

[Alf]

Who will be charged for this?

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by Alf

Who will be charged for this?

Actually that a fair point can it be seen as blameless?...

[michael21]

Originally Posted by Alf

Who will be charged for this?

Michael knight no less

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Brillopad

Thank Christ for that. Driverless cars - men self-identifying as women - one big car-crash after another!

Thank women for that. Driverless Christ - men self-identifying as driverless cars - one big car crash after another!

[bitontheslide]

driverless cars are here to stay, they fact that uber messed up in trials is no particular surprise to me, but lots of other manufacturers are actively testing, and they will become common place in the near future

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Actually that a fair point can it be seen as blameless?...

Surely the bosses of Uber will be held accountable?

[MTVN]

There actually was a person behind the wheel monitoring the car. If the woman steps out suddenly into traffic then are they really at fault?

[thesheriff443]

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet

Not Ant testing uber cars as a sideline?

Bit of a sick joke considering a woman has lost her life.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

There actually was a person behind the wheel monitoring the car. If the woman steps out suddenly into traffic then are they really at fault?

Not read anything about the incident then?

Police identified the victim as 49-year-old Elaine Herzberg and said she was walking outside of the crosswalk with a bicycle when she was hit at around 10pm

'The self-driving technology is supposed to detect pedestrians, cyclists and others and prevent crashes.'

'John M Simpson, privacy and technology project director with Consumer Watchdog, said the collision highlighted the need for tighter regulations of the nascent technology.'

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-arizona-tempe

[MTVN]

Originally Posted by Kizzy

Not read anything about the incident then?

Police identified the victim as 49-year-old Elaine Herzberg and said she was walking outside of the crosswalk with a bicycle when she was hit at around 10pm

'The self-driving technology is supposed to detect pedestrians, cyclists and others and prevent crashes.'

'John M Simpson, privacy and technology project director with Consumer Watchdog, said the collision highlighted the need for tighter regulations of the nascent technology.'

https://www.theguardian.com/technolo...-arizona-tempe

Er yes I have hence why I pointed out that there was a human operative behind the wheel. Thought you would benefit from knowing that as you were confused about who should be considered responsible. From the BBC article:

Police said the accident happened Sunday night while the car was in autonomous mode. A human monitor was also behind the wheel.

Police said the woman, Elaine Herzberg, had not been using a pedestrian crossing.

[Kizzy]

Originally Posted by MTVN

Er yes I have hence why I pointed out that there was a human operative behind the wheel. Thought you would benefit from knowing that as you were confused about who should be considered responsible. From the BBC article:

So... It was in driverless mode at the time wasn't it? There was still nobody stepping out suddenly.

Police said the woman, Elaine Herzberg, had not been using a pedestrian crossing.

The self-driving technology is supposed to detect pedestrians, cyclists

[Marsh.]

If there was someone behind the wheel for the sake of these "tests" then surely they are there to act to prevent accidents so they are at fault?

Like a driving instructor having a break pedal in case of emergency?

[Maru]

I liked the original idea of having magnets/rails in the road that the cars followed... I don't like autonomous... I think that it's a security risk, especially if those systems run on a network and are hacked into remotely somehow... I like the rail system because at least, a networked/AI-ish system is only one of the variables... a mixed system sounds nice (but the infrastructure would probably be $$$$$$)

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Maru

I liked the original idea of having magnets/rails in the road that the cars followed...

I love trains.

[Toy Soldier]

Originally Posted by Marsh.

If there was someone behind the wheel for the sake of these "tests" then surely they are there to act to prevent accidents so they are at fault?

Like a driving instructor having a break pedal in case of emergency?

Well... The legal issue would still be questionable there: because if you hit someone on a driving lesson (even on your very first lesson) it's the driver who is legally responsible, not the instructor.

A lot of learner drivers believe that they aren't legally responsible for what happens when they're behind the wheel if they don't have a full licence... But that's not the case.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier

Well... The legal issue would still be questionable there: because if you hit someone on a driving lesson (even on your very first lesson) it's the driver who is legally responsible, not the instructor.

A lot of learner drivers believe that they aren't legally responsible for what happens when they're behind the wheel if they don't have a full licence... But that's not the case.

Yes but we're talking about a machine so the company bears the responsibility, surely?

My comment about an instructors pedal was more of a question tbh. Do the cars not gave safety measures like that to prevent accidents like this?