Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10072462)

well said

Originally Posted by Livia (Post 10072494)

Our infrastructure is under enormous pressure, people are homeless, people are jobless, the NHS is struggling... there is no more room to be able to allow people to wander in. We must of course continue take genuine refugees, especially families, through the UN. We can't let everyone in because they think it's easier here.

Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10072414)

There's a fundamental misunderstanding, really, that anyone who is against mistreatment if human beings "wants open borders and to let anyone in!!!"

No.

We shouldn't have open borders, it's impossible to accept all asylum seekers let alone other immigrants. That's true. Here's the thing though;

You don't have to be vicious about it.

The jeering, spitefulness and hatred directed at migrants themselves is completely unnecessary. No it's not possible for the world to move to Europe and solutions need to be found... But if it was any of us in one of these struggling countries, we would be doing the exact same thing.

We don't have to abandon empathy and compassion in order to control our borders. People can be turned away considerately without resorting to bleating "nyyyeeeerrrrrr dirty get back to yer own country!!".

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10072512)

Half these cowardly men have probably fled for fear of death, leaving thier wives and kids to be raped and killed.. .such brave honourable men...**** off home.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10072512)

Half these cowardly men have probably fled for fear of death, leaving thier wives and kids to be raped and killed.. .such brave honourable men...**** off home.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10072529)

While they come over here to rape our children and women

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10072525)

It's because people like that don't really have a leg to stand on in an argument unless they misrepresent things to suit their viewpoints. Any kind of empathy towards immigrants = WE WANT OPEN BORDERS! LET EVERYONE IN!

The whole blaming of 'liberals' and all the twisted arguments fall apart when you look at things realistically but that would mean people who use those arguments would have to listen to things they don't want to hear and that'll never happen. Who cares about the truth or facts as long as someone's spinning a tale that appeals to you?

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10072531)

****ing hell. Nasty nasty nasty.

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10072536)

Its a fact ....Rochdale, Rotherham to name but 2

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10072536)

Its a fact ....Rochdale, Rotherham to name but 2

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10072525)

It's because people like that don't really have a leg to stand on in an argument unless they misrepresent things to suit their viewpoints. Any kind of empathy towards immigrants = WE WANT OPEN BORDERS! LET EVERYONE IN!

The whole blaming of 'liberals' and all the twisted arguments fall apart when you look at things realistically but that would mean people who use those arguments would have to listen to things they don't want to hear and that'll never happen. Who cares about the truth or facts as long as someone's spinning a tale that appeals to you?

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10072464)

Yes because of people traffickers and their greed for money

nothing to do with Europe

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10072541)

And on just about every SD thread, Dezzy for a long time now - YOU are the main culprit for REACHING and PREACHING and misrepresenting and spinning false facts to suit your agendas.

And THAT is a FACT.

Originally Posted by Niamh. (Post 10072531)

****ing hell. Nasty nasty nasty.

Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 10072512)

Half these cowardly men have probably fled for fear of death, leaving thier wives and kids to be raped and killed.. .such brave honourable men...**** off home.

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10072541)

And on just about every SD thread, Dezzy for a long time now - YOU are the main culprit for REACHING and PREACHING and misrepresenting and spinning false facts to suit your agendas.

And THAT is a FACT.

Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 10072545)

A derogatory comment based on nothing but prejudice tbh.

You know it's bad when people are starting to demonise immigrants who are fleeing for their lives....

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10072541)

And on just about every SD thread, Dezzy for a long time now - YOU are the main culprit for REACHING and PREACHING and misrepresenting and spinning false facts to suit your agendas.

And THAT is a FACT.

Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10072542)

And why are they so desperate they give everything they have and risk their lives again?...

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10072549)

Do you have a spare bed will you offer it to them, pay for private health care, feed,clothe and keep them ?

Originally Posted by chuff me dizzy (Post 10072549)

Do you have a spare bed will you offer it to them, pay for private health care, feed,clothe and keep them ?

Originally Posted by kirklancaster (Post 10072541)

And on just about every SD thread, Dezzy for a long time now - YOU are the main culprit for REACHING and PREACHING and misrepresenting and spinning false facts to suit your agendas.

And THAT is a FACT.