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Cherie 12-09-2018 08:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Northern Monkey (Post 10220879)
Bastards,Why no one argue with me? :fist:

I actually have better things to do than argue with a bunch of crazed Big Brother fans on the internet.I got plenty of real life people to argue with.I’d rather just light the fuse and watch the fireworks :laugh:

:laugh:

smudgie 12-09-2018 09:44 PM

Loved the way the little boy gave his nanny a cuddle.

MTVN 12-09-2018 09:51 PM

There are a lot of people like this on the hard left that are so dogmatic that everyone they disagree with is an 'enemy', in the end they basically become bullies

jaxie 12-09-2018 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10221174)
I love that one old bloke in a flat cap is now "a mob" :joker:

Well there was the guy in Reese Mogg fancy dress and the woman with the pink hair. And no way of knowing who else was off camera. :shrug:

Tom4784 13-09-2018 02:12 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10221553)
There are a lot of people like this on the hard left that are so dogmatic that everyone they disagree with is an 'enemy', in the end they basically become bullies

The same can be said for either side's more extreme elements. Both are as bad as each other but this whole story is basically just an attempt to paint in broad strokes.

Crimson Dynamo 13-09-2018 06:51 AM

I love how the MSM call these crazies "activists" and not far left extremists

Withano 13-09-2018 07:00 AM

Let’s be real though. It’s the Sun. They need anti-left articles because it’s the easiest way to get money from their target audience.

The closest they got this week is a frail old man asking how much Moggs nanny earns, but they tricked their readers into thinking it’s something a lot worse with a clickbaity title. It’s a shame that this is how we live now.

Cherie 13-09-2018 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10221797)
Let’s be real though. It’s the Sun. They need anti-left articles because it’s the easiest way to get money from their target audience.

The closest they got this week is a frail old man asking how much Moggs nanny earns, but they tricked their readers into thinking it’s something a lot worse with a clickbaity title. It’s a shame that this is how we live now.

Doesn't really matter what his age is or his fragility, he shouldn't be targetting a Nanny and young kids

kirklancaster 13-09-2018 07:42 AM

:laugh::laugh::laugh: LMFAO.

Whinging, whining, flat-cap ignoramus 'Rag an Bone' lost the plot AND was hoisted on his own petard.

After spectacularly FAILING to intimidate the Rees-Mogg children with his leftie propaganda, and 'rattle' the ice-cool Rees Mogg himself, he then tries to 'appeal' directly to the nanny: 'Surely SHE will support me Guv - after all, she's 'downtrodden' working class like moi'.

She was having NONE of his twisted tosh and pulled the rug from under his feet by declaring how happy she is in her job and by defending Rees-Mogg.

She patently enjoys her work and has such a bond with the Rees-Mogg family that she has been in her post for 50 years, and the Rees-Mogg children so obviously love her and regard her as 'one of the family.

Rag and Bone is yet just another pathetic and deluded 'Rabble Without A Cause' leftie CLOWN.

Totally laughable.

Withano 13-09-2018 07:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Cherie (Post 10221806)
Doesn't really matter what his age is or his fragility, he shouldn't be targetting a Nanny and young kids

Perhaps not. But its barely news without the clickbaity title is it.

One unpleasant man discussing Moggs’ nanny wage wouldnt have got a tenth of the ad revenue

VILE LEFT MOB TARGETTING CHILDREN sure as **** does though

Its just a bit sad imo

Im not defending the bloke, the story isnt interesting to me. Im discussing the title - i find that far more interesting.

MTVN 13-09-2018 08:36 AM

Well they are left wing protesters and they did target his children so I'd say the title is pretty accurate. It's been a pretty big news story across all outlets and even a lot of Labour MPs have been speaking out to denounce it





If it's just dismissed as 'barely news' then this sort of thing is normalised as though politicians should just expect to be harassed with their children every time they step out their front door. Its intimidation and it puts off a lot of people from being involved in politics

jaxie 13-09-2018 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Withano (Post 10221797)
Let’s be real though. It’s the Sun. They need anti-left articles because it’s the easiest way to get money from their target audience.

The closest they got this week is a frail old man asking how much Moggs nanny earns, but they tricked their readers into thinking it’s something a lot worse with a clickbaity title. It’s a shame that this is how we live now.

Well you aren't being very real. For a start you are promoting he idea it's one frail old man and the sun. The frail old man is a good decade younger than you claim and others present are also named in several reports.

As to it just being the sun. Try these.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...d-by-activists

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8534341.html

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics...ob-rees-moggs/

user104658 13-09-2018 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10221839)
Well they are left wing protesters and they did target his children so I'd say the title is pretty accurate. It's been a pretty big news story across all outlets and even a lot of Labour MPs have been speaking out to denounce it

It clearly isn't, ONE guy brought his kids into it, and it was described as "a mob" targetting the kids. Now, you could say that a mob was present, and that ONE protester targetted the children, but to suggest that an entire mob of people brought the kids into it is fake news. Deliberate fake news. AKA propaganda :idc:.

Crimson Dynamo 13-09-2018 09:09 AM

I am surprised that some members are unaware of how the media has been operating since the invention of the printing press!

One would even suggest that its nothing more than an attempt to avoid the issue altogether?

:think:

jaxie 13-09-2018 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10221865)
It clearly isn't, ONE guy brought his kids into it, and it was described as "a mob" targetting the kids. Now, you could say that a mob was present, and that ONE protester targetted the children, but to suggest that an entire mob of people brought the kids into it is fake news. Deliberate fake news. AKA propaganda :idc:.

Were you there for the whole incident/conversation? A transcript would be good.

user104658 13-09-2018 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 10221873)
Were you there for the whole incident/conversation? A transcript would be good.

There's literally a video in the first post, Jaxie.

jaxie 13-09-2018 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10221874)
There's literally a video in the first post, Jaxie.

And how do you know if the clip shows the whole incident or a small clip of it?

MTVN 13-09-2018 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10221865)
It clearly isn't, ONE guy brought his kids into it, and it was described as "a mob" targetting the kids. Now, you could say that a mob was present, and that ONE protester targetted the children, but to suggest that an entire mob of people brought the kids into it is fake news. Deliberate fake news. AKA propaganda :idc:.

I was referring to the thread title which doesn't use the word 'mob'. No one here has used that term either really so not sure why that's become the main talking point. Even the Sun story is obviously just using it for effect with the Mogg/Mob alliteration. That's what journalists do.

user104658 13-09-2018 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by jaxie (Post 10221879)
And how do you know if the clip shows the whole incident or a small clip of it?

Well maybe Rees-Mogg spat at the old man whilst is children repeatedly punched him in the balls. Maybe a giant, talking seagull - ancient guardian of the Rees-Mogg family - appeared just after the video ended, squawking and slapping its glorious wings, and declared that the whole mob must disperse or feel the wrath of the ancients.

I can't believe you don't care about OAP's being assaulted by giant feathered mythical beasts, Jaxi, just because it was after the cameras stopped.

...

The evidence that is available is that ONE person (NOT a mob) brought his children into it. Those are the facts. Then calling that "a mob" is at best guesswork, and at worst, deliberate misrepresentation.

Vicky. 13-09-2018 09:27 AM

Yeah we can only comment on what we can see, no point in speculating about what happened next :laugh: That guy was a complete dick though, you just don't target kids

Crimson Dynamo 13-09-2018 09:27 AM

he has been on benefits since he left univ apparently

user104658 13-09-2018 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10221880)
I was referring to the thread title which doesn't use the word 'mob'. No one here has used that term either really so not sure why that's become the main talking point.

The thread title specifically states "protesters", plural.

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Even the Sun story is obviously just using it for effect with the Mogg/Mob alliteration.
This is naive.

The story is deliberately misrepresentative in order to nullify the complaints of the larger group by focussing on the actions of one individual and apply those to the entire group. It's a common press tactic so, really, it's one that people should make an effort to be able to see through if they actually want to understand what's going on, and not what they're being fed.

jaxie 13-09-2018 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10221883)
Well maybe Rees-Mogg spat at the old man whilst is children repeatedly punched him in the balls. Maybe a giant, talking seagull - ancient guardian of the Rees-Mogg family - appeared just after the video ended, squawking and slapping its glorious wings, and declared that the whole mob must disperse or feel the wrath of the ancients.

I can't believe you don't care about OAP's being assaulted by giant feathered mythical beasts, Jaxi, just because it was after the cameras stopped.

...

The evidence that is available is that ONE person (NOT a mob) brought his children into it. Those are the facts. Then calling that "a mob" is at best guesswork, and at worst, deliberate misrepresentation.

Spin away.

Apparently there is a four minute video on the protest groups Facebook page.

MTVN 13-09-2018 09:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Toy Soldier (Post 10221888)
The thread title specifically states "protesters", plural.



This is naive.

The story is deliberately misrepresentative in order to nullify the complaints of the larger group by focussing on the actions of one individual and apply those to the entire group. It's a common press tactic so, really, it's one that people should make an effort to be able to see through if they actually want to understand what's going on, and not what they're being fed.

Well the plural is accurate - this was a protest organised by the group 'Class War', there were at least four people there carrying a large banner and they were pretty pleased with it as well.


user104658 13-09-2018 09:38 AM

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Originally Posted by MTVN (Post 10221891)
Well the plural is accurate - this was a protest organised by the group 'Class War', there were at least four people there carrying a large banner and they were pretty pleased with it as well.


"Jacob Reese Mogg’s children targeted by vile left wing protesters"

It is accurate that protesters (plural) were present. It is accurate that ONE protester targetted Rees-Mogg's children.

The thread title states that protesters (plural) targetted Rees-Mogg's children. That is not accurate. It's misrepresentative. There's no argument that it isn't... there's a video... which if anything shows that multiple protesters did NOT target the children, it appears to show the entire section start to finish from the point where the kids were mentioned, to the point where they were taken away, during which one protester started hounding the kids. Which, yes, is wrong. But the attempt to nullify the point of the protest by tarring every protester there as targetting kids is disingenuous and (in my opinion) probably deliberate, or at least full of subconscious bias.


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