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Grim Reaper 14-11-2019 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10711797)
I chat to my postie often enough. It's a disgrace what they're doing to you guys.
Stand strong.

Thanks mate, give my regards to your Postie!

Grim Reaper 14-11-2019 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10711809)
To be fair, Royal Mail / Post Office have always been the same. I remember when I was a kid my mum worked for Post Office and my Dad for BT, both were out on strike at the same time...dad was out for weeks. It crippled them financially and took years to recover from. No one takes strike action lightly when it directly impacts them and their families. This high court action seems to be a death knoll for the Unions if voted for actions can be over turned. We are all going to be minions soon. Sorry you're going through this Grim and Mrs Grim

Thank you AnnieK it must have been very hard for them/you and you are so right nobody takes the decision to strike lightly especially at Xmas, i mean who would vote to lose all their pay at this time without bloody good reason?

Crimson Dynamo 14-11-2019 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 10711793)
So right hijaxers for one thing I haven't even been at work to listen to gossip today and even if I had been we barely get time to talk to each other it's that pressurised! I don't know what/who you work for Trumpet but don't expect any help when you need it, s'pose you're just worried about not receiving your fan mail!

I am in the post office 6 days a week the depot once a week and the regional0 hub once a week Iv known postie's and work with them for 20 years. I know the work and workload better than most . Don't give me a sob story, I'm the wrong person.

The strike is off, court ruled. Read the ruling. I did.

hijaxers 14-11-2019 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 10711836)
Thank you AnnieK it must have been very hard for them/you and you are so right nobody takes the decision to strike lightly especially at Xmas, i mean who would vote to lose all their pay at this time without bloody good reason?

Only mean, greedy people obviously:nono:

Twosugars 14-11-2019 10:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Grim Reaper (Post 10711829)
Thanks mate, give my regards to your Postie!

I will. I will tell him about this thread too.
And welcome to the forum. Looking forward to chatting with you more.

Grim Reaper 15-11-2019 04:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10711877)
I will. I will tell him about this thread too.
And welcome to the forum. Looking forward to chatting with you more.

You too and thanks for your support it's appreciated!

Ammi 15-11-2019 04:27 AM

...I guess it’s become a barely recognisable workplace, Grim...with some of the changes you’ve seen...and this changes designed to stretch the workers more and more in the name of greed and profit...?...so much talk about ‘making Britain great again’...and this is such an example of the stripping away of that greatness...but sadly it’s just become a catchphrase with no meaning...hmmmm, what I find so, so concerning...is how much the unions seem to be losing their voices, when their function has always been to represent the workforce..I was thinking this a few weeks ago with Asda staff being forced to sign new contracts or face job losses...it’s a time for the rich, sadly...:sad:...and no consolation at all but many people are on your side...:hug:...

Kizzy 15-11-2019 10:27 AM

My dad was a postie too but on the sorting office on nights the majority of his career. Really feel for you too grim, try not to get personally invested in the comments here. Only you are aware of it has impacted on your colleagues and you personally. I agree people who are wholly ignorant to the impact the changes have had on the workforce since privatisation can't and don't know how much stress and pressure it creates as you fight to retain the rights you currently have.
It's happening across the UK, retail staff, train drivers, pilots nobody is safe from the vice like grip of share holders squeezing more and more for less and less.
It has to stop.

Livia 15-11-2019 10:32 AM

Everybody's jobs have changed. The more technological we become, the fewer people we need. And with the advent of the email, the postie's job was never going to remain the same, sadly. I have a wonderful postman called Colin. He doesn't just deliver the post, he collects it from elderly people as we're a bit remote. He checks on people to make sure they're okay, especially in very hot or very cold weather and generally looks after the people on his round. He is a super-nice man... posties do more than just deliver letters.

Kizzy 15-11-2019 10:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Ammi (Post 10711929)
...I guess it’s become a barely recognisable workplace, Grim...with some of the changes you’ve seen...and this changes designed to stretch the workers more and more in the name of greed and profit...?...so much talk about ‘making Britain great again’...and this is such an example of the stripping away of that greatness...but sadly it’s just become a catchphrase with no meaning...hmmmm, what I find so, so concerning...is how much the unions seem to be losing their voices, when their function has always been to represent the workforce..I was thinking this a few weeks ago with Asda staff being forced to sign new contracts or face job losses...it’s a time for the rich, sadly...:sad:...and no consolation at all but many people are on your side...:hug:...

I agree Ammi, the rights and protections we enjoyed from were what made Britain great and set us apart from other countries which still relied on allowing the exploitation of their workforce.
That was a Britain to be proud of, the Britain of venture capitalists rinsing the country and it's people and keeping the money offshore is not.
That catchphrase has no meaning, unless it's meant in the terms of Empire.. and that as history tells us was NOT a time of greatness but great brutality and subjection.
The unions need to find a voice quickly, it's essentially now or never or be permanently muted.

Crimson Dynamo 15-11-2019 10:59 AM

High court rules illegal ballot of RM members = bad ruling, disgrace, yada yada


High court rules Boris broke law - well done justice, scum, he broke rules so end of...


:whistle:

Livia 15-11-2019 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10712083)
High court rules illegal ballot of RM members = bad ruling, disgrace, yada yada


High court rules Boris broke law - well done justice, scum, he broke rules so end of...


:whistle:

LOL... yes.

Kizzy 15-11-2019 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10712083)
High court rules illegal ballot of RM members = bad ruling, disgrace, yada yada


High court rules Boris broke law - well done justice, scum, he broke rules so end of...


:whistle:

So whataboutism is ok ...on your terms LT :rolleyes:

As I thought would be appreciated no two cases or courts are alike.. and these two were poles apart.
There is no comparison, as the govt regularly do when challenged the union can appeal... Nothing wrong with that.

Crimson Dynamo 15-11-2019 12:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10712133)
So whataboutism is ok ...on your terms LT :rolleyes:

As I thought would be appreciated no two cases or courts are alike.. and these two were poles apart.
There is no comparison, as the govt regularly do when challenged the union can appeal... Nothing wrong with that.

yes let them appeal but all their vile leverage (disrupt children's Christmas, feck up a very important election ) is gone. lets see how well they do with a February strike...

Kizzy 15-11-2019 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10712138)
yes let them appeal but all their vile leverage (disrupt children's Christmas, feck up a very important election ) is gone. lets see how well they do with a February strike...

As said the strike was announced before the election was.

Why are you not worried about the kids of the posties who's mums and dads rights at work are being eroded, how will they enjoy Christmas with the anxiety of unsecured employment like the kids of the Asda employees?

But many won't think that.. they won't give flying feck about those kids as long as their ebay parcel arrives and they get good feedback.

Grim Reaper 17-11-2019 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10711838)
I am in the post office 6 days a week the depot once a week and the regional0 hub once a week Iv known postie's and work with them for 20 years. I know the work and workload better than most . Don't give me a sob story, I'm the wrong person.

The strike is off, court ruled. Read the ruling. I did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10712083)
High court rules illegal ballot of RM members = bad ruling, disgrace, yada yada


High court rules Boris broke law - well done justice, scum, he broke rules so end of...


:whistle:

Well it seems I've been a naughty boy and have upset the sainted Trumpets' sensitive feelings, I could interpret what you said as calling me scum if I had a mind to so touche! I note you still evade telling us what you do in the Post Office 6 days a week so I'll assume you're a Franker possibly with an enlarged right arm due to all that rubber stamping! :shrug: (Do try and nurture a sense of humour!) :laugh:

Crimson Dynamo 17-11-2019 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Kizzy (Post 10712195)
As said the strike was announced before the election was.

Why are you not worried about the kids of the posties who's mums and dads rights at work are being eroded, how will they enjoy Christmas with the anxiety of unsecured employment like the kids of the Asda employees?

But many won't think that.. they won't give flying feck about those kids as long as their ebay parcel arrives and they get good feedback.

unemployment is at a record low, plenty jobs around - ideal if you do not like the current situation. Amazon are hiring as are all couriers. seekers market.

arista 17-11-2019 01:29 PM

Yes Kizzy
but the Election over rules everything


Even upsetting village halls
as they had a Dinner booked for 12th

Twosugars 17-11-2019 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10713620)
unemployment is at a record low, plenty jobs around - ideal if you do not like the current situation. Amazon are hiring as are all couriers. seekers market.

Cowards way out that allows employers to get away with treating workers like cattle.
Better to stay put and fight for decent working conditions

Crimson Dynamo 17-11-2019 01:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Twosugars (Post 10713629)
Cowards way out that allows employers to get away with treating workers like cattle.
Better to stay put and fight for decent working conditions

well when you find an employer that does treat people like a herd of cows be sure to let us know, as it sounds awful (and unlikely in the UK?)

with links please

AnnieK 17-11-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10713638)
well when you find an employer that does treat people like a herd of cows be sure to let us know, as it sounds awful (and unlikely in the UK?)

with links please

Have you ever spoken to anyone who works for Amazon??? I have, the conditions there leave a lot to be desired too

Grim Reaper 17-11-2019 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by arista (Post 10713627)
Yes Kizzy
but the Election over rules everything


Even upsetting village halls
as they had a Dinner booked for 12th

Yes the judge actually had the neck to say that the election influenced his decision! Well I'll say it again and sorry folks but the strike ballot was way before the announcement of the General Election so that is not a valid excuse in my book! :fist:

Crimson Dynamo 17-11-2019 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 10713687)
Have you ever spoken to anyone who works for Amazon??? I have, the conditions there leave a lot to be desired too

Yes my cousin's boy works at the big one in Dunfermline,4 days on 10 hour shifts and loves it. hard work but the time goes quick and he likes his spare time it seems.

work hard and you get on at a big forward company like Amazon

and he gets picked up by the amazon workers bus so job is a good un

Crimson Dynamo 17-11-2019 02:48 PM

dont believe the BS once a year 30 min documentaries like one that was on last week, terrible shoddy programme that amount to nothing more than a tabloid hatchet job for likes

AnnieK 17-11-2019 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 10713695)
dont believe the BS once a year 30 min documentaries like one that was on last week, terrible shoddy programme that amount to nothing more than a tabloid hatchet job for likes

I work in recruitment and have heard first hand of some of the horrors from previous staff members (plural), including some junior managers

Although, I'm glad your cousins son enjoys the work.


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