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Ammi 23-05-2021 06:49 AM

…I was reading just a few days ago a bit about the history of African Americans in Detroit…specifically in the later 60s…which really isn’t that long ago…and these are many prejudice mindsets and attitudes that stem from slavery and have still displayed through time and American history…the slow integration and acceptance of what were slave families into a free society and that integration being very much resisted by society sections…


…anyways, history is all we have and how we learn to move forward…for those who have faiths, the faiths are based on history, surely…on events of the past, so all of that would be erased as well if history wasn’t taught…it really would be like a ‘spotless mind’ scenario and creating a dystopian world…it would create the very opposite of tolerance…

…I read that it’s not taught very extensively in American schools but can’t really find that much information…our history is quite skimmed over as well because of curriculum restrictions so it’s something that I would think would have to be studied as a topic in later education…?….

AnnieK 23-05-2021 06:51 AM

In order to understand a lot of the world's issues, we need to look at the history of places. Why conflicts happened, how that affected the populace and when sometimes the feelings still run deep. To erase history makes it difficult to look at current affairs of our own and other countries.

Ammi 23-05-2021 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11049418)
In order to understand a lot of the world's issues, we need to look at the history of places. Why conflicts happened, how that affected the populace and when sometimes the feelings still run deep. To erase history makes it difficult to look at current affairs of our own and other countries.

…it’s all any of us are and what we have of those we love…our memories/their history…the impact of a life lived and their legacy…we are who we are because of what came before and the present is impacting our children and so it goes on…

bots 23-05-2021 07:20 AM

providing a balanced view of history becomes ever harder, that is where the problem lies in teaching it. I wonder how these times will be taught in the future. There are so many alternative facts and fake news, where do the historians start?

GoldHeart 23-05-2021 08:57 AM

That's backwards and laughable when they have statues all over the place of slave owners that they practically worship.

They can try and censor history all they want but it's all there in black and white ,and children are inquisitive and they'll do their research.

Education is important especially when it comes to serious issues and topics like this, being ignorant doesn't help.

Strictly Jake 23-05-2021 03:51 PM

Ooh I love when I manage to catch up with a thread where people are fighting before comments are deleted. Usually I'm too late

As for the topic history is so fascinating it's unfortunate that the history we focused on it UK schools was Henry 8th and his wives and that was just about it

Tom4784 23-05-2021 03:53 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11049684)
I’ve told you to stop making threads about members you was a mod and they kicked your arse out now you you just bitter and twisted

Grow the **** up, this tantrum you're in the midst of is honestly pathetic.

You made a dumbass statement that compared modern living to slavery, a practice that stripped people of their free will and dignity, that left them victim to endless suffering, abuse and rape. A practice that tore people from their homes and forced them to live lives of servitude. You're comparing holding down a job to that in order to dismiss the attempted whitewashing of history.

Also you're trying to make out that this is a thread about other members, tell me, are there any Texan lawmakers on this forum? Or is that yet another lie on top of the random lies about me as well?

Get some dignity.

Crimson Dynamo 23-05-2021 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Strictly Jake (Post 11049694)
Ooh I love when I manage to catch up with a thread where people are fighting before comments are deleted. Usually I'm too late

As for the topic history is so fascinating it's unfortunate that the history we focused on it UK schools was Henry 8th and his wives and that was just about it

im fairly;y certain you covered more than that and indeed would have looked at slavery as part of secondary History. I know I did.

what is a pity is that kids dont pay more attention in History or see it as a valid subject.

same for geography

Marsh. 23-05-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by thesheriff443 (Post 11049692)
I’m not your fcuking mate or buddy i know it’s slow on here so your trolling is down
Mods please stop this troll

Sure thing, mate.

AnnieK 23-05-2021 04:00 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11049698)
im fairly;y certain you covered more than that and indeed would have looked at slavery as part of secondary History. I know I did.

what is a pity is that kids dont pay more attention in History or see it as a valid subject.

same for geography

I didn't cover slavery for secondary history. We did the industrial revolution in the Uk for GCSE. I think it depends on your school and the year as to what syllabus you cover

Crimson Dynamo 23-05-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11049702)
I didn't cover slavery for secondary history. We did the industrial revolution in the Uk for GCSE. I think it depends on your school and the year as to what syllabus you cover

surely you watched ROOTS?

everyone of a certain age on this forum must have?

:laugh:

Beso 23-05-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11049418)
In order to understand a lot of the world's issues, we need to look at the history of places. Why conflicts happened, how that affected the populace and when sometimes the feelings still run deep. To erase history makes it difficult to look at current affairs of our own and other countries.

What I'm saying is the future world may not have any issues if we stop teaching the worlds darker side in history

To teach it, breeds hatred.

Marsh. 23-05-2021 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049709)
What I'm saying is the future world may not have any issues if we stop teaching the worlds darker side in history

To teach it, breeds hatred.

It doesn't.

You think teaching about the history of the slave trade creates racists? :facepalm:

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:08 PM

Ignoring the dark parts of the world's history won't do anything. History is filled with blood and it shouldn't be ignored. The only people who would suggest we forget about history are people who simply don't want to acknowledge the dark parts of their own heritage.

Beso 23-05-2021 04:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11049710)
It doesn't.

You think teaching about the history of the slave trade creates racists? :facepalm:

No, it breeds contempt for honest white people

Beso 23-05-2021 04:11 PM

All these conflicts ain't new..they are decades and century old conflicts..

Jeez, forgive n forget for once.

AnnieK 23-05-2021 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeatherTrumpet (Post 11049708)
surely you watched ROOTS?

everyone of a certain age on this forum must have?

:laugh:

Not when it first aired, I'm not that old :laugh:

You said Jake must have studied it at school, I was just pointing out that every school and every year does different topics.

AnnieK 23-05-2021 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049722)
All these conflicts ain't new..they are decades and century old conflicts..

Jeez, forgive n forget for once.

So why shouldn't we teach them?

Marsh. 23-05-2021 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049718)
No, it breeds contempt for honest white people

Oh.... it creates racism against white people?

Yeah, ok. :pat:

Beso 23-05-2021 04:21 PM

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Originally Posted by AnnieK (Post 11049729)
So why shouldn't we teach them?

Cause kids are far to impressionable.

Beso 23-05-2021 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Marsh. (Post 11049731)
Oh.... it creates racism against white people?

Yeah, ok. :pat:

So you think no black kid has learnt about slavery and spent the rest if his life hating whites for it :shrug:

Grow up.

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049718)
No, it breeds contempt for honest white people

Our ancestors were colonisers, rapists and more. It is simply a fact of life, what breeds contempt (and I certainly have a lot of it for people who dismiss history) is people being unwilling to accept the facts.

German people are raised knowing exactly what happened in WW2, they do not shy away from uncomfortable truths even though a lot of people alive today would not have been during WW2. They do this because they understand it can never happen again.

America's history is rooted in slavery and racism and to teach American history without touching on that is not teaching history at all, it's teaching a fairy tale to people who don't want the truth.

History is dark and twisted and full of lessons for us to learn from, to ignore it because some white people can't accept the truth of their lineage is just immature and dangerous.

Tom4784 23-05-2021 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by parmnion (Post 11049747)
So you think no black kid has learnt about slavery and spent the rest if his life hating whites for it :shrug:

Grow up.

So you seek to deny people's history over a hysteric fear and an assumption about an entire race. Grim.

Cherie 23-05-2021 04:26 PM

I don’t agree with erasing history whatever form it takes

Beso 23-05-2021 04:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Dezzy (Post 11049754)
Our ancestors were colonisers, rapists and more. It is simply a fact of life, what breeds contempt (and I certainly have a lot of it for people who dismiss history) is people being unwilling to accept the facts.

German people are raised knowing exactly what happened in WW2, they do not shy away from uncomfortable truths even though a lot of people alive today would not have been during WW2. They do this because they understand it can never happen again.

America's history is rooted in slavery and racism and to teach American history without touching on that is not teaching history at all, it's teaching a fairy tale to people who don't want the truth.

History is dark and twisted and full of lessons for us to learn from, to ignore it because some white people can't accept the truth of their lineage is just immature and dangerous.


In sure there was plenty raping going on in africa before anyone was colonised...sign of the times I'm afraid:shrug:


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