[Tom4784]

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/20/u...6-project.html

Basically a bunch of Right Wing led states are trying to ban the darker parts of US history being taught in school and Texas is one of the biggest ones to attempt it which is bad news considering they drive much of the textbook industry.

A bunch of white snowflakes simply can't handle that the history of their country is one mired in blood and racism and want to rewrite history to shove the uncomfortable parts under the table. Why is the right wing so scared of facts? It's honestly pathetic.

If you censor or ignore the uncomfortable parts of history, you're doomed to repeat it.

[arista]

Typical of that state.

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by arista

Typical of that state.

Not just that state, there's others that have passed or are in the process of passing such laws.

All of which are typically right wing, no surprise there.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Love the Lone Star State

[Beso]

It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.

If that's how you think, we have to erase all of our own history.

We are meant to learn from our mistakes, not erase them and pretend they didn't happen.

[Beso]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

If that's how you think, we have to erase all of our own history.

We are meant to learn from our mistakes, not erase them and pretend they didn't happen.

We dont need to pretend, we just dont need to teach the future generations.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

We dont need to pretend, we just dont need to teach the future generations.

Why not? We all studied history....our grandparents fought and in some cases died so we have a history to discuss. Our past dictates our present and future.

To know the mistakes makes us sure we don't (hopefully) repeat them

[Beso]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

Why not? We all studied history....our grandparents fought and in some cases died so we have a history to discuss. Our past dictates our present and future.

To know the mistakes makes us sure we don't (hopefully) repeat them

The world is not in a position for it to repeat itself in regards to the white on black slavery story.

It will never happen again. To mention it, and to teach it. Well, I think it will only bring hate, or hate or hate.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

We dont need to pretend, we just dont need to teach the future generations.

What a dumb comment.

"Don't need to teach future generations". Yeah, good plan.

[Jake.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.

Best just scrapping history altogether then?

[Beso]

Originally Posted by Jake.

Best just scrapping history altogether then?

Yep

[Tom4784]

Originally Posted by parmnion

It makes sense to me.

To bring everyone together, we must forget our past.

But the same crowd that says that are the same people who defend statues of racists as having historical importance. Which is it?

[Beso]

Tough ask, with the net, but I can dream.

[Beso]

Kids should, and do, judge people for themselves, without any pre conceived ideas put in their heads.


So yes, we dont need our kids taught about all that horrid nasty stuff.



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[Beso]

Daft argument annie considering you are probably up for taking down statues.

[AnnieK]

Originally Posted by parmnion

Daft argument annie considering you are probably up for taking down statues.

I've never once commented on that, but you put words in my mouth if you want.

My son will learn all about this. countries, and the world's history, good and bad, from me if school won't teach it because my grandad was a PoW and so earned me that right....

[Liam-]

Yet those people would have a fit if they were told to stop talking about 9/11

[Jordan.]

Clearly some people didn't even go to school let alone take history classes. There is zero benefits to be had in not teaching future generations mistakes of the past, unless you are for repeating said mistakes of course.

[Tom4784]

The idea that racism exists only because we teach people about the history of racism is the most bat**** ignorant thing I've seen on here in a long while and that's saying something. It's literally taking bigotry and victim blaming the victims of it by saying 'You can't talk about your experiences or your ancestor's struggles because my feelings might get hurt because I don't like to be reminded that my race enslaved yours.'

People who would whitewash history because they don't like the reality of it need to toughen the **** up and accept the facts.

[Ammi]

…I was reading just a few days ago a bit about the history of African Americans in Detroit…specifically in the later 60s…which really isn’t that long ago…and these are many prejudice mindsets and attitudes that stem from slavery and have still displayed through time and American history…the slow integration and acceptance of what were slave families into a free society and that integration being very much resisted by society sections…


…anyways, history is all we have and how we learn to move forward…for those who have faiths, the faiths are based on history, surely…on events of the past, so all of that would be erased as well if history wasn’t taught…it really would be like a ‘spotless mind’ scenario and creating a dystopian world…it would create the very opposite of tolerance…

…I read that it’s not taught very extensively in American schools but can’t really find that much information…our history is quite skimmed over as well because of curriculum restrictions so it’s something that I would think would have to be studied as a topic in later education…?….

[AnnieK]

In order to understand a lot of the world's issues, we need to look at the history of places. Why conflicts happened, how that affected the populace and when sometimes the feelings still run deep. To erase history makes it difficult to look at current affairs of our own and other countries.

[Ammi]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

In order to understand a lot of the world's issues, we need to look at the history of places. Why conflicts happened, how that affected the populace and when sometimes the feelings still run deep. To erase history makes it difficult to look at current affairs of our own and other countries.

…it’s all any of us are and what we have of those we love…our memories/their history…the impact of a life lived and their legacy…we are who we are because of what came before and the present is impacting our children and so it goes on…

[Beso]

Originally Posted by AnnieK

In order to understand a lot of the world's issues, we need to look at the history of places. Why conflicts happened, how that affected the populace and when sometimes the feelings still run deep. To erase history makes it difficult to look at current affairs of our own and other countries.

What I'm saying is the future world may not have any issues if we stop teaching the worlds darker side in history

To teach it, breeds hatred.

[Marsh.]

Originally Posted by parmnion

What I'm saying is the future world may not have any issues if we stop teaching the worlds darker side in history

To teach it, breeds hatred.

It doesn't.

You think teaching about the history of the slave trade creates racists?