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Friendlykev92 15-12-2024 10:16 PM

Only smoke it occasionally myself, But to me it's certainly safer or no more harmful than alcohol so I would like to see it legalized, But that's just my opinion

joeysteele 15-12-2024 10:21 PM

I haven't any problem with it if it were to be legalised.
I'd support that move myself.

Not that I'd use it though.

Redway 16-12-2024 06:27 PM

Anyone who seriously thinks cannabis is more harmful than alcohol should read this: https://www.brown.edu/Courses/BI_278...ol%20Abuse.pdf

People just don’t get hooked on pot like that. That’s the truth. You might want to think otherwise if you’re been conditioned to be hypocritically biased against weed in favour of alcohol but the truth is alcohol is a much, much, much more destructive and less beneficial drug than cannabis could ever be. Okay in moderation but causes too many issues to be ignored just-because the pub is an inherent part of your culture. You can’t Mary-Jane yourself to death but you can easily drink yourself to death, and that’s periodt. And that’s when alcohol’s legal and fully regulated.

Livia 16-12-2024 06:55 PM

Totally agree with @Cranbred Goose. Plus, unlike alcohol, I've never heard of anyone smoking some cannabis and then starting a fight.

Cherie 16-12-2024 06:56 PM

They may as well, it is being smoked openly in parks and gardens, and on the street...

Redway 16-12-2024 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Livia (Post 11589619)
Totally agree with @Cranbred Goose. Plus, unlike alcohol, I've never heard of anyone smoking some cannabis and then starting a fight.

Absolutely.

If someone, in an idealised scenario, wants to curate an idealised scenario of quail, breadfruit and blueberry toast with liver, proportioned CBD, essential oils, candles, sharp cleaning routines, harmonious cleaning routines with the people in their living spaces and in their lives in the more long-standing and top it off with a bit of weed and psilocybin (maybe off the back of ketamine therapy, for extra measure) for enhanced introspection and vibes while they kick back at the end of a long week watching Fiddler on the Roof, EastEnders or Emmerdale and tap into seminars with therapists who help them navigate past trauma that they’ve transformed themselves out of while their pallies are out smoking 20 cigarettes an hour, carrying knives to nightclubs and getting into drunken fights, I … you know. I don’t see why some people would be more desperate to antagonistically call the police on the first. As for the stereotype of habitual partakers of the green being permanently monged out losers who never accomplish anything for themselves, many find that cannabis enhances their day-to-day life (especially if they’re introspective or creative souls), or they vape instead of smoke (which tends to offer a cleaner, less stoney high), they use sativas in-and-around times they use it when they want to function (as-opposed to strong indicas) or they combine it with uplifting cannabinoids (like CBG, before we even get talking about CBD) that tend to cause an uplift in motivation if the strain of THC they’re using alone won’t do it. Everything ultimately points to the fact that ignorance, stereotypes and the lack of education the general public have in terms of how to optimise their cannabis experiences and do it in a healthy way (and, of course, in moderation) do more harm than the plant itself. And those reasons don’t justify continued illegality. Quite-the opposite. It’s not the fault of ganja itself that people use ignorance and stereotypes to make it seem worse than alcohol, despite the fact that the latter even in its fully legalised, regulated state causes more direct fatalities and legal/health-related woes (violence to boot) than cannabis ever could.

For every gutter-alkie with delirium tremens who fluctuates between prison and hospital, moreover, there's a sophisticated wine connoisseur and that’s how it is with weed as well. But some people have the impression that to even talk about the latter in a semi-favourable light you have to be a monged-out stoner who accomplishes nothing for yourself and just lies around getting stoned all day. The act of smoking weed, vaping weed, eating Delta-8 gummies, using the vaped extracts to make banana bread or latke board, etc., can be every bit as refined and appropriately moderate as high-end, classy drinking. It doesn’t have to be all or nothing. But unfortunately we live in a world where we like to criminalise peace. Couldn’t just leave the Middle East alone. Can’t just leave people who use weed sensibly and in moderation alone, while people have free rein to two of the most poisonous and harmful drugs out there (alcohol and nicotine). The hypocrisy really is terrible.

GoldHeart 16-12-2024 07:17 PM

It stinks,I still don't know how people can stand the smell. Plus what other sh1t are they mixing with it ... sometimes it isn't just 'weed' .

And people who constantly smoke it ( not the ones having an occasional blunt) usually act like they have serious brain damage :idc: ,I know not everyone will agree with me.

I'm all for cannabis being used for medical and herbal remedies,but there's other ways to take it ...other than smoking it to get stoned.

Redway 16-12-2024 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Spirit (Post 11589630)
It stinks,I still don't know how people can stand the smell. Plus what other sh1t are they mixing with it ... sometimes it isn't just 'weed' .

And people who constantly smoke it ( not the ones having an occasional blunt) usually act like they have serious brain damage :idc: ,I know not everyone will agree with me.

I'm all for cannabis being used for medical and herbal remedies,but there's other ways to take it ...other than smoking it to get stoned.

And that’s why vapes exist. Just as they exist for nicotine now, so, too, do they exist for weed. The smell is far more discreet and contained (and it disappears after a matter of minutes in any case). You really don’t have to smoke or be that stereotypical 16-year-old having a stinky spliff in the supposedly secluded part of the park. Of course, if smoking’s still the one you wanna do, crack on, but there are other, more discreet, less stinky options out there. It’s just a matter of people upping their tobacco-and-flower literacy.

Some people liken the smell of vaped weed to burnt popcorn more than anything else. No-doubt it has an essence reminiscent of some sort of corny flower but it’s not necessarily even recognisable as weed.

There’s just no reason for weed to be illegal, recreationally or medicinally.

GoldHeart 16-12-2024 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranbred Goose (Post 11589631)
And that’s why vapes exist. Just as they exist for nicotine now, so, too, do they exist for weed. The smell is far more discreet and contained (and it disappears after a matter of minutes in any case). You really don’t have to smoke.

Some people liken the smell of vaped weed to burnt popcorn more than anything else. No-doubt it has an essence reminiscent of some sort of corny flower but it’s not necessarily even recognisable as weed.

Well usually wherever I walk ...it seems people are still smoking it through cigarettes to stink up the air . Even when I was in a professional setting ,I could smell it lingering around. So people aren't bothered.

Cherie 16-12-2024 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Spirit (Post 11589633)
Well usually wherever I walk ...it seems people are still smoking it through cigarettes to stink up the air . Even when I was in a professional setting ,I could smell it lingering around. So people aren't bothered.

its disgusting GH and their clothes must reek, plus its probably no better than tobacco for lungs, but they may as well legalise it and get the tax because its just normalised now

Redway 16-12-2024 07:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas (Post 11589634)
its disgusting GH and their clothes must reek, plus its probably no better than tobacco for lungs, but they may as well legalise it and get the tax because its just normalised now

If alcohol’s legal, weed should be. That’s just a fact.

More people should definitely vape, though.

GoldHeart 16-12-2024 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Cherie Christmas (Post 11589634)
its disgusting GH and their clothes must reek, plus its probably no better than tobacco for lungs, but they may as well legalise it and get the tax because its just normalised now

Well it already feels like it's legalised... that's for sure :laugh: it seems to be everywhere,so I definitely see people's point there.

But yeah dreadful habit like tobacco :yuk: .

Redway 16-12-2024 07:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Spirit (Post 11589637)
Well it already feels like it's legalised... that's for sure :laugh: it seems to be everywhere,so I definitely see people's point there.

But yeah dreadful habit like tobacco :yuk: .

Do you see drinking as a dreadful habit?

GoldHeart 16-12-2024 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranbred Goose (Post 11589638)
Do you see drinking as a dreadful habit?

Excessive drinking yes

Redway 16-12-2024 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Spirit (Post 11589639)
Excessive drinking yes

What about just-plain drinking vs. the just-plain weed vaper (not smoker)? A vaper doesn’t stink; they’re not stinking up the whole place. Their hair and clothes don’t reek. They’re just taking into the introspective, meditative, enhanced-sensorial benefits of cannabis, whatever they are for them (better quality of music-sound/taste of food, even-deeper intuition/creativity, or just a sense of calm, whatever it is for them), chilling, minding their own business and not doing anyone any harm (there might be some CBD in the vape, too). What’s honestly so wrong with that? What’s there?

Would they necessarily deserve to have the police called on them?

Zizu 16-12-2024 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranbred Goose (Post 11589640)
What about just-plain drinking vs. the just-plain weed vaper (not smoker)? A vaper doesn’t stink; they’re not stinking up the whole place. Their hair and clothes don’t reek. They’re just taking into the introspective, meditative, enhanced-sensorial benefits of cannabis, whatever they are for them (better quality of music-sound/taste of food, even-deeper intuition/creativity, or just a sense of calm, whatever it is for them), chilling, minding their own business and not doing anyone any harm (there might be some CBD in the vape, too). What’s honestly so wrong with that? What’s there?


As regards vaping ( completely unregulated) I got the impression that you have no real idea what on earth you are inhaling ( chemical/substance wise) .. and that the major of profits went to organised crime

Redway 16-12-2024 08:35 PM

I’d … recommend people watch today’s EastEnders. It’s good to be reminded of the dangers of alcohol. Never mind Crimson Dynamo rambling in the other thread without fuller context.

BBC iPlayer’s free anyway. Fill your boots.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2024 09:12 PM

Watch EastEnders

:laugh2:

Brilliant

Redway 16-12-2024 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Dynamo (Post 11589649)
Watch EastEnders

:laugh2:

Brilliant

You can knock it all you want but until you’ve actually seen the theme of the episode it’s all predictable hollow bait from you. God knows when you’re gonna stop.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2024 09:26 PM

I'm not watching that sh1t

Come on, no one does

Redway 16-12-2024 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Christmas Dynamo (Post 11589653)
I'm not watching that sh1t

Come on, no one does

Yeah, okay. You’re obviously not going to stop. Have fun with yourself.

Crimson Dynamo 16-12-2024 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranbred Goose (Post 11589659)
Yeah, okay. You’re obviously not going to stop. Have fun with yourself.

Be more than the 4 EastEnders fans will

Redway 29-12-2024 07:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Friendlykev92 (Post 11589381)
Only smoke it occasionally myself, But to me it's certainly safer or no more harmful than alcohol so I would like to see it legalized, But that's just my opinion

It’s definitely safer than alcohol. Less destructive to society to boot.

Zizu 29-12-2024 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cranbred Goose (Post 11593315)
It’s definitely safer than alcohol. Less destructive to society to boot.


Though nothing would ever get done and the country would grind to a halt .. that said nobody would care

Redway 11-01-2025 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by joeysteele (Post 11589382)
I haven't any problem with it if it were to be legalised.
I'd support that move myself.

Not that I'd use it though.

That’s absolutely fair, Joey. There’s a bit of a misconception that you have to use these substances yourself to approve of their legality and that ain’t it. You can be teetotal (or at the most a very occasional drinker) and still agree that alcohol should be legal.

Hope you’re well.


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