[Crimson Dynamo]

“I maintain that it’s addictive,” he said in a new interview with Time, which
named him Icon of the Year. “It leads to other drugs. And when you’re stoned
— and I’ve been stoned — you don’t think normally. Legalizing marijuana in
America and Canada is one of the greatest mistakes of all time.”

https://www.rollingstone.com/music/m...ew-1235201020/

Get them telt Elton

[bots]

Anything that affects your mental state will be addictive. Legalising cannabis will improve it's safety and bring in loads for the tax man

[Niamh.]

Originally Posted by bots

Anything that affects your mental state will be addictive. Legalising cannabis will improve it's safety and bring in loads for the tax man

Exactly, it's no worse than cigarettes or Alcohol being legal.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Exactly, it's no worse than cigarettes or Alcohol being legal.

Even on the black market cannabis is capable of killing no-one, as-opposed to fully-regulated, legal alcohol, which addicts and kills millions per year. If you’re pro-alcohol but anti-weed, you’re a hypocrite. Period.

[Oliver_W]

Originally Posted by Cranbred Goose

Even on the black market cannabis is capable of killing no-one, as-opposed to fully-regulated, legal alcohol, which addicts and kills millions per year. If you’re pro-alcohol but anti-weed, you’re a hypocrite. Period.

If weed were to be available to be through retail, I think it should have a minimum age of around 25, due the the negative effects it has on brain development.

But don't worry, alcohol should be 21+, and the age of consent should be 18.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by CheapLousyFaggit

If weed were to be available to be through retail, I think it should have a minimum age of around 25, due the the negative effects it has on brain development.

But don't worry, alcohol should be 21+, and the age of consent should be 18.

Filter in fluvoxamine and/or CBD (and maybe other ‘mellowing entourage cannabinoids’) and does THC have that much of a negative effect on the development of certain 16-24-year-olds? Part of the problem is that we don’t teach people how to optimise their experiences with cannabis. Some people have no business going near it without CBD and if they did they’d be fine but for some reason skeptics want the brain to get a unilaterally-sided kicking from THC alone. That’s not always the best way to use cannabis and as-per the science of cannabis we know this. Cannabinoids work better together than in isolation. CBD off-sets a lot of the negative effects of THC.

Should uni. students not be allowed to drink? Come on. 21+ is wild.

[Mystic Mock]

Originally Posted by ChristmasNeeve

Exactly, it's no worse than cigarettes or Alcohol being legal.

I agree.

[Beso]

Someone stick him back on his xmas tree.

[Livia]

What he means is, it led HIM to harder drugs.

[Redway]

And yet alcohol is a far more destructive drug, with zero medicinal, spiritual or introspective benefits to boot. How many direct fatalities have occurred from cannabis throughout history as-opposed to alcohol? 0 as-opposed to how-many billions?

[bots]

i had my share of cannabis as a student and i never felt it was addictive certainly not compared to tobacco. Also, it's never occurred to me to try harder drugs so i don't see it as a gateway drug either. I think the gateway aspect comes from your social circle. Having a beer doesn't lead to drinking whisky. It doesn't make sense

[Redway]

Originally Posted by bots

i had my share of cannabis as a student and i never felt it was addictive certainly not compared to tobacco. Also, it's never occurred to me to try harder drugs so i don't see it as a gateway drug either. I think the gateway aspect comes from your social circle. Having a beer doesn't lead to drinking whisky. It doesn't make sense

That’s because alcohol and tobacco are far more addictive than cannabis. Society just likes to turn more of a blind eye to alcohol unless the destructive consequences of alcohol, talk-less alcoholism, are literally shoved in their faces.

[The Slim Reaper]

Originally Posted by bots

i had my share of cannabis as a student and i never felt it was addictive certainly not compared to tobacco. Also, it's never occurred to me to try harder drugs so i don't see it as a gateway drug either. I think the gateway aspect comes from your social circle. Having a beer doesn't lead to drinking whisky. It doesn't make sense

I agree with the general point you're making, but the weed on sale today is a different animal from the probable Thai sticks you were being served up during your college days.

[thesheriff443]

I know someone who gets medical grade cannabis at 200 pounds a pop uses it for pain relief after a moped accident but they were smoking cannabis long before their accident

[Ninastar]

The only bad thing about it being legal is how ****ing expensive it gets

[Zizu]

Youtube video

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Zizu

Youtube video

Sadly George was right

[Redway]

For every anecdote of someone having bad experiences with cannabis there’s a trillion and one with alcohol, with numerous fatalities to boot. You just cannot make an honest argument that isn’t rooted in obvious bias, however subconscious, that cannabis is worse than alcohol of all drugs. It’s not possible.

[Crimson Dynamo]

Originally Posted by Cranbred Goose

For every anecdote of someone having bad experiences with cannabis there’s a trillion and one with alcohol, with numerous fatalities to boot. You just cannot make an honest argument that isn’t rooted in obvious bias, however subconscious, that cannabis is worse than alcohol of all drugs. It’s not possible.

No one bar you is making a comparison, this thread is about the evils of cannabis as it is an illegal drug purchased from drug dealers who also deal in other illegal drugs

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Christmas Dynamo

No one bar you is making a comparison, this thread is about the evils of cannabis as it is an illegal drug purchased from drug dealers who also deal in other illegal drugs

Is cannabis illegal in Canada, Portugal, the Netherlands or half of the U.S.?

[Quantum Boy]

Of course it's addictive and harmful and of course it can lead people to harder drugs. Of course it's not particularly good for you.

...it just isn't worse than alcohol, so anyone who bawls about it being legalised whilst happily sipping a glass of wine is nothing but a hypocrite.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Quantum Bauble

Of course it's addictive and harmful and of course it can lead people to harder drugs. Of course it's not particularly good for you.

...it just isn't worse than alcohol, so anyone who bawls about it being legalised whilst happily sipping a glass of wine is nothing but a hypocrite.

What about CBD, CBG, CBN, Delta-8 and the other million-and-one cannabinoids out there besides THC as we know it in its fully psychoactive form? Does THC itself not have major health benefits shrouded in anti- propaganda?

Come on, man. You’re cleverer than this.

[Quantum Boy]

Originally Posted by Cranbred Goose

What about CBD, CBG, CBN, Delta-8 and the other million-and-one cannabinoids out there besides THC as we know it in its fully psychoactive form?

Come on, man. You’re cleverer than this.

Saying that a drug has a therapeutic use is different from saying that it's good for you in an ideal world. Would you recommend that someone who is already physically and mentally a well-balanced person with zero issues start dabbling in CBD? No, no more than you'd suggest that someone with no physical pain starts popping codeine, or even paracetamol.

On the same note - you obviously wouldn't say "oh no, don't take those painkillers!" to someone with a headache.

The analgesics will do them good in their situation, but that doesn't mean that they are inherently good for healthy people.

[Redway]

Originally Posted by Quantum Bauble

Saying that a drug has a therapeutic use is different from saying that it's good for you in an ideal world. Would you recommend that someone who is already physically and mentally a well-balanced person with zero issues start dabbling in CBD? No, no more than you'd suggest that someone with no physical pain starts popping codeine, or even paracetamol.

On the same note - you obviously wouldn't say "oh no, don't take those painkillers!" to someone with a headache.

The analgesics will do them good in their situation, but that doesn't mean that they are inherently good for healthy people.

Don’t presume. All our bodies have endocannabinoid systems and by that analogy are receptive to various cannabinoids with or without underlying medical conditions, if nothing else for enhancement of general bodily homeostasis. People are oft. better-off with than without CBD. Our bodies don’t have natural endo-paracetamol receptors. Talk less endo-alcoholoid ones but the two of us are obviously in agreement with that so that’s okay.

I know you’ll find another loop-hole to argue with, ever-the perpetual ENTP-giving debater, but I’ve said my own and laid my own foundations for the crux of my point. CBD is nothing like codeine or even paracetamol. Nothing like. So just do not tell me ‘no, no you wouldn’t advocate for CBD for someone with no health problems because it’s like doing such for tramadol’. Next time I won’t take that lying down, let me just tell you. I won’t take it from you.

You don’t have to have a health condition to enjoy the health benefits of plantain or spinach. Likewise for CBD. Like I said that’s my own. You being you you’ll probably still want to challenge or debate it further but compared to Crimson Dynamo you’re not the one I’m really disagreeing with on the whole so it’s not even worth another argument so let’s just leave it here. Hope yer well.

[Quantum Boy]

People always like to say about class A drug users, that many (most) of them tried cannabis first... which is true I'm sure... but I guarantee that the first recreational drug every single one of them tried was alcohol, and I guarantee that the cycle of substance abuse ultimately began as soon as they felt a bit better about life after having a drink.