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Fat.Rat 01-09-2007 09:12 PM
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how do you know he got the most votes!!just because they say he did, doesn't mean that he did!!!
How do you know he didn't?
because the twins where fave to win, by polls ect......everywhere i looked "twins to win", and suddenly surprise surprise brian wins!!!

Arneldo 01-09-2007 09:13 PM
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Even if the bookies did do this - I doubt it still would have effected the outcome. Brian won with a massive lead over Sam & Amanda - The bookies have a lot of power but no so much to control the outcome of a show.
You are JOKING Arneldo!! The Bookmakers are in a perfect position to do this and I am NOT JUST talking about this series either. It is a very careful plan which major Bookmakers like Ladbrokes are quite willing to do if necessary. Care to know how many Bookmakers there are countrywide who would be happy to sway a vote in those last moments or infact - much earlier. They knew the odds and showed us the odds - But the Twins lost!!!??? How do you account for that?

I was reading much of the interesting views from forum member Sticks and to be honest - I understand hios reasoning, even though I admit I was in [Twin-mode] fully. Brian was my greatest worry and also, I expected some collusion from Bookmakers to gain them some money, instead of losing Millions. I believe this is the FIX - and the REAL REASON..

This could be the way Big Brother is FIXED?
Even IF the bookmakers did this - It isnt a fix - they are allowed to vote just as much as the next person, but I still stand by what I said that the bookies don't have enough power to control the outcome. I don't for a second believe that the bookies would have mass voted in there thousands for Brian to win.
It is a FIX. Normal voting by Big Brother fans is classed as - normal voting - if a joint operation by Bookmakers and about 100 or so paid voters to cause a one-sided balance to the scales - to ultimately sway the vote from the lovely Twins to thicko Brian is what followed. I am soooooooooo mad and have thought of this plan before. It is not fair and ruins these phonevoting shows. It is sympathy vote for Pete in Big Brother 7 and now we have sympathy to thicko and some say the black vote and then I have suspicions of collusion from Bookmakers. It is not the regular FIX, but a plan regarding mass-voting - surely Arneldo, that must be taken into account? It is a shame, but this is how Big Brother is ruled and abused RIGHT?? The mass-voting is definitely possible. I don't know how you could really deny that possibility?? You know what they are financially worth - don't you?
If this was the case, why didn't they do it last year, or the year before, or the year before that?

the_stillness 01-09-2007 09:13 PM
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No we don't all know. Bitter twin fans all think it was. Face it! Brian won fair and square.
We are bitter twin fans, but did Brian win fairly. No he did not and that makes me and fans of the twins angry - you must realise that

Fat.Rat 01-09-2007 09:14 PM
bb has changed over the years, it is NOT a game show anymore!!!

Arneldo 01-09-2007 09:14 PM
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how do you know he got the most votes!!just because they say he did, doesn't mean that he did!!!
How do you know he didn't?
because the twins where fave to win, by polls ect......everywhere i looked "twins to win", and suddenly surprise surprise brian wins!!!
Aisleyne was leading in 99% of all the polls last year and didn't win - The polls are NOT and accuare source.

SairBabi92 01-09-2007 09:16 PM
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how do you know he got the most votes!!just because they say he did, doesn't mean that he did!!!
How do you know he didn't?
because the twins where fave to win, by polls ect......everywhere i looked "twins to win", and suddenly surprise surprise brian wins!!!
Just because they were favs doesn't mean they were going to win! Brian was a fav ever since he entered the house and people tend to stick by their orginal favs like i did!
You just need to accept the fact that he won and the twins came 2nd!

the_stillness 01-09-2007 09:17 PM
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If this was the case, why didn't they do it last year, or the year before, or the year before that?
How much money was involved in Big Brother 5, 6 or 7 then? I think that the money this year was higher? I don't know for sure - I also have to say that Bookmakers will learn ways of playing these games and just because itmay have not happened before, is still not enough to win this argument, is it?

The Twins were robbed. The Bookmakers stole the Twins glory, it all fell to pieces and the thicko won:sad:

Arneldo 01-09-2007 09:19 PM
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No we don't all know. Bitter twin fans all think it was. Face it! Brian won fair and square.
We are bitter twin fans, but did Brian win fairly. No he did not and that makes me and fans of the twins angry - you must realise that
Samanda fans are very bitter that there favs did not win because they thought they had it in the bag. Twins supporters should have voted and not have assumed that they would win - I think that was part of the reason why they did not win. All of this is just people trying to come up with some excuse, some reason why the twins did not win. The facts are - Brian got the most votes, Brian won. 60.3% of the vote - This was a huge lead over the Twins. IF the bookies did mass-vote, and I think that is a huge IF, I don't think it would have effected the final outcome.

The twins were not robbed, it was not a fix. They lost. Brian won.

Arneldo 01-09-2007 09:20 PM
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If this was the case, why didn't they do it last year, or the year before, or the year before that?
How much money was involved in Big Brother 5, 6 or 7 then? I think that the money this year was higher? I don't know for sure - I also have to say that Bookmakers will learn ways of playing these games and just because itmay have not happened before, is still not enough to win this argument, is it?

The Twins were robbed. The Bookmakers stole the Twins glory, it all fell to pieces and the thicko won:sad:
Less money was placed this year then any other year.

Fat.Rat 01-09-2007 09:21 PM
i believe it was a fix and a lot more people do aswell. im sticking with that!!! and i did vote for the twins.

the_stillness 01-09-2007 09:22 PM
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Brian won, yes but thats only because the bookies spent thousands voting for him
Exactly S.J - Millions at pounds at stake. It doesn't cost much money to make this occur

the_stillness 01-09-2007 09:25 PM
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No we don't all know. Bitter twin fans all think it was. Face it! Brian won fair and square.
We are bitter twin fans, but did Brian win fairly. No he did not and that makes me and fans of the twins angry - you must realise that
Samanda fans are very bitter that there favs did not win because they thought they had it in the bag. Twins supporters should have voted and not have assumed that they would win - I think that was part of the reason why they did not win. All of this is just people trying to come up with some excuse, some reason why the twins did not win. The facts are - Brian got the most votes, Brian won. 60.3% of the vote - This was a huge lead over the Twins. IF the bookies did mass-vote, and I think that is a huge IF, I don't think it would have effected the final outcome.

The twins were not robbed, it was not a fix. They lost. Brian won.
I don't care about the 60.3% I know that the Bookmakers wouldn't know that figure. I know that mass voting by them would be a great ploy and they will IMO do that. I don't trust the percentages quoted anyway. Sam and Amanda are soooooooooo much better than Brian would ever be, agreed

Fat.Rat 01-09-2007 09:26 PM
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No we don't all know. Bitter twin fans all think it was. Face it! Brian won fair and square.
We are bitter twin fans, but did Brian win fairly. No he did not and that makes me and fans of the twins angry - you must realise that
Samanda fans are very bitter that there favs did not win because they thought they had it in the bag. Twins supporters should have voted and not have assumed that they would win - I think that was part of the reason why they did not win. All of this is just people trying to come up with some excuse, some reason why the twins did not win. The facts are - Brian got the most votes, Brian won. 60.3% of the vote - This was a huge lead over the Twins. IF the bookies did mass-vote, and I think that is a huge IF, I don't think it would have effected the final outcome.

The twins were not robbed, it was not a fix. They lost. Brian won.
I don't care about the 60.3% I know that the Bookmakers wouldn't know that figure. I know that mass voting by them would be a great ploy and they will IMO do that. I don't trust the percentages quoted anyway. Sam and Amanda are soooooooooo much better than Brian would ever be, agreed
agreed!!!

the_stillness 01-09-2007 09:26 PM
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i believe it was a fix and a lot more people do aswell. Im sticking with that!!! and i did vote for the twins.
That is right Fat.Rat! Let the Brian lovers say their piece - but Twinfans know better, ha!

Arneldo 01-09-2007 09:28 PM
Well the paranoid sour faced bitter Twins fans can think what they want and they rest us will believe the truth :wink:

the_stillness 01-09-2007 09:29 PM
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If this was the case, why didn't they do it last year, or the year before, or the year before that?
How much money was involved in Big Brother 5, 6 or 7 then? I think that the money this year was higher? I don't know for sure - I also have to say that Bookmakers will learn ways of playing these games and just because itmay have not happened before, is still not enough to win this argument, is it?

The Twins were robbed. The Bookmakers stole the Twins glory, it all fell to pieces and the thicko won:sad:
Less money was placed this year then any other year.
Doesn't matter!! Bookmakers get more canny and just because money may have been less than before - it still doesn't mean that the money voted on the underdog was any less or more - the winner - the same. I don't know exactly, as I only saw Big Brother 7 - but it does sound right

Fat.Rat 01-09-2007 09:30 PM
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i believe it was a fix and a lot more people do aswell. Im sticking with that!!! and i did vote for the twins.
That is right Fat.Rat! Let the Brian lovers say their piece - but Twinfans know better, ha!
yeah we do!!! go twin fans:thumbs2::thumbs2::thumbs2:

SairBabi92 01-09-2007 09:30 PM
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No we don't all know. Bitter twin fans all think it was. Face it! Brian won fair and square.
We are bitter twin fans, but did Brian win fairly. No he did not and that makes me and fans of the twins angry - you must realise that
Yes you are very bitter because you were way too overly confident to begin with! At the end of the day us Brian fans can say 'Our fav was the winner!' :laugh:

Arneldo 01-09-2007 09:31 PM
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If this was the case, why didn't they do it last year, or the year before, or the year before that?
How much money was involved in Big Brother 5, 6 or 7 then? I think that the money this year was higher? I don't know for sure - I also have to say that Bookmakers will learn ways of playing these games and just because itmay have not happened before, is still not enough to win this argument, is it?

The Twins were robbed. The Bookmakers stole the Twins glory, it all fell to pieces and the thicko won:sad:
Less money was placed this year then any other year.
Doesn't matter!! Bookmakers get more canny and just because money may have been less than before - it still doesn't mean that the money voted on the underdog was any less or more - the winner - the same. I don't know exactly, as I only saw Big Brother 7 - but it does sound right
It doesn't sound right - But It is right and people need to realise it. The Twins loast and Brian won fair and square.

the_stillness 01-09-2007 09:35 PM
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No we don't all know. Bitter twin fans all think it was. Face it! Brian won fair and square.
We are bitter twin fans, but did Brian win fairly. No he did not and that makes me and fans of the twins angry - you must realise that
Yes you are very bitter because you were way too overly confident to begin with! At the end of the day us Brian fans can say 'Our fav was the winner!' :laugh:
You and the Brian-Thicko fan-club will continue to bang on about a straight Big Brother 8 - I/We just feel that I/We were robbed of seeing the lovely - beautiful Twinnies get robbed of the rightful position of winning the show. 2nd is good, but NOT GOOD enough!!!! I still think that the Bookmakers stole their glory. I think this will come up in the newspapers at some time - it has got to. It was unfair and those percentages mentioned I don't understand:mad:

the_stillness 01-09-2007 09:37 PM
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i believe it was a fix and a lot more people do aswell. Im sticking with that!!! and i did vote for the twins.
That is right Fat.Rat! Let the Brian lovers say their piece - but Twinfans know better, ha!
yeah we do!!! go twin fans:thumbs2::thumbs2::thumbs2:
TWINS2WIN - That's what we wanted and it should've happened. Damn those Bookmakers:mad:

SairBabi92 01-09-2007 09:37 PM
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No we don't all know. Bitter twin fans all think it was. Face it! Brian won fair and square.
We are bitter twin fans, but did Brian win fairly. No he did not and that makes me and fans of the twins angry - you must realise that
Yes you are very bitter because you were way too overly confident to begin with! At the end of the day us Brian fans can say 'Our fav was the winner!' :laugh:
You and the Brian-Thicko fan-club will continue to bang on about a straight Big Brother 8 - I/We just feel that I/We were robbed of seeing the lovely - beautiful Twinnies get robbed of the rightful position of winning the show. 2nd is good, but NOT GOOD enough!!!! I still think that the Bookmakers stole their glory. I think this will come up in the newspapers at some time - it has got to. It was unfair and those percentages mentioned I don't understand:mad:
The only thickos are the bitter twin fans thinking that it's a fix!
For the final time:

Brian Won....Get over it!

Fat.Rat 01-09-2007 09:38 PM
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No we don't all know. Bitter twin fans all think it was. Face it! Brian won fair and square.
We are bitter twin fans, but did Brian win fairly. No he did not and that makes me and fans of the twins angry - you must realise that
Yes you are very bitter because you were way too overly confident to begin with! At the end of the day us Brian fans can say 'Our fav was the winner!' :laugh:
You and the Brian-Thicko fan-club will continue to bang on about a straight Big Brother 8 - I/We just feel that I/We were robbed of seeing the lovely - beautiful Twinnies get robbed of the rightful position of winning the show. 2nd is good, but NOT GOOD enough!!!! I still think that the Bookmakers stole their glory. I think this will come up in the newspapers at some time - it has got to. It was unfair and those percentages mentioned I don't understand:mad:
actually its the "you and the pretending to be a thicko fan club":thumbs::thumbs:

Arneldo 01-09-2007 09:38 PM
Just because you didn;t get what you wanted you all moan and cry "FIX! FIX!" Just makes me laugh really. Brian won fair and square.

SairBabi92 01-09-2007 09:40 PM
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Just because you didn;t get what you wanted you all moan and cry "FIX! FIX!" Just makes me laugh really. Brian won fair and square.
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