Dannii has flopped has she?

- 13 number ones in the UK dance charts out of a possible 13
- 4 top 5 hits in the official charts
- A further 5 top 10 hits in the official charts
- A further 5 top 20 hits in the official charts
- Another 5 top 40 hits in the official charts

You might want to brush up on facts or make yourself look very foolish.

OK not the UK's biggest success but she is very popular around the world and has quite some following. Shes also done a lot of theatre work as well that the critics have loved.

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So right, let me understand...You're trying to justify her success then you go ahead to knock her down in the UK? Yeah, you're right she isn't the biggest success, she hasn't been for ages. Those numbers are small, too. The fact of the matter (again) is that yeah, she does flop.

Lets look at her album records, shall we?

1st Album peaked in her home country of Australia at 24.
2nd peaked in the UK at 8.
3rd peaked in Aus at 53, in UK at 52.
4th peaked in Aus at 69, in UK at 57.
5th peaked in Aus at 25, in UK at 8.

Wow...Look at that, not good. The only category she gets number 1's in is UK club. Not much when you're comparing it to the official top 40, is it? And the ones that you listed are bombed by the rest of her songs chart positions.

Looks like I've brushed up on my facts, doesn't it? I don't do foolish. :wink:

Dannii is no Kyle, her sister is a million times better then her, and for me, seems a much nicer, down to earth person too.

Shes still popular in the UK dance charts though. Its like saying (even though I hate them) Bullet for My Valentine aren't successful because they rarely get songs inside the top 40, but clearly they're one of the biggest metal bands around atm.

Yes, she has had her flops but he majority of the singles have done moderately well, lets not forget she narrowly missed out on a number one in 2003 and it was the 66th biggest selling song of 2003. Not that impressive, but it did beat a load of other songs that managed to get to number 1.

Her hits outweigh her flops. If she had consistent flops she wouldn't be on X Factor or Australia's Got Talent. She isn't massive in the UK but she is around the world, and for other work shes done. Think about it.

I'm sick of all this dilly dallying about. For goodness sake Danni, if you want to quit, just do it. No need to make a song and dance about it.

(However, for what it's worth, I wold far rather see Cheryl Cole quit - she's useless).

They want to take the show back to its roots and ditch the fourth category, ditch both Cheryl & Dannii and bring back Sharon if possible. They got the judges and the chemistry just right in series 3 which is really hard to achieve, then they went and screwed it all up the following year. I do like them both, don't get me wrong, but I think Louis/Simon/Sharon are the only three that can make the show work properly.

In the UK, the dance charts aren't exactly big news. Have you seen BFMV's record? Charts wise, anyway. They're not good. I wouldn't call them that, either.

Moderately well defeats the objection of calling her massive. Her albums flop drastically in her own home country for heavens sakes, that's an insult/failure in itself. She narrowly missed out on the number one but she didn't get it, and yeah...66th isn't something to boast about. I don't understand why you're using these facts or this information because it doesn't compliment her all that much?

She's on Australia's Got Talent because she is Kylie's sister. Her music obviously doesn't get great reception there so they have to settle for minor things. She's one of Australia's only good (so they'd call her) exports in regards to music. Danni's no Kylie, people need to come to that realisation and fast.

And people need to stop criticising Cheryl. She's new, she's fresh, she's successful, she's great looking and she's fantastic at her job. She's currently the face of the UK with her other bandmembers in terms of British girl groups. The show needs her, the show could do perfectly without Danni - she needs to be replaced with Sharon.

I don't need to stop criticising Cheryl Cole. She, along with the rest of her group, is just a puppet. Her success is all due to the people pulling her strings. And the fact that she is good looking is neither here nor there, when it comes to doing her job.

As for Dannii.....she has more about her than Cheryl - just my opinion. She was actually the first one of the sisters to achieve success in Australia, and Kylie followed suit. It's all pretty irrelevant now of course, as we are talking years down the line. But, personally, while Kylie seems a lovely girl and all that, I don't rate her much either, when it comes to talent. Dannii doesn't need to be Kylie. She doesn't try to be Kylie.

They're not puppets at all. Her and the girls exude talent, confidence and good will. Their success is because people actually like their music, buy their music, download their music and so forth. They came from a talent show; this of which the public were given the final decision on who went and stayed each week, then were given the decision to decide which girls would be placed in the band. How you can say their success is because of "people pulling strings" is beyond me and well, stupid.

Their fans aren't forced to like them and they're not forced to purchase their material, merchandise or attend their tours. Cheryl can't be blamed for being gorgeous, she's real - she isn't fake like the woman that sits next to her on the panel. She doesn't need cosmetic/plastic surgery, Danni does. Cheryl has talent, looks and the nations love on her side - "whatsername" doesn't.

It's not true. Dannii has confirmed that she hasn't mentioned anything about quitting.

Why do the papers keep lying? :rolleyes:

so they can have stories to put on their papers -.-

true, but it's annoying.

Cheryl can't even sing she is useless at singing and the only thing she has got riding on her are her looks.

I used the fact of 66th to show that it outsold some songs that actually managed to get to number 1. Shes also on Australia's Got Talent because of her all round work in theatre and on TV, she isn't just a singer. Shes bigger than Kylie in Australia, and Kylie was actually famous for being Dannii's sister, not the other way around. I didn't call her massive in the UK either which she isn't, but she is around the world. You're just solely looking at her singing and not at the rest of her career.

Cheryl can't sing anyway (but I do like her), shes even admitted it herself. The show doesn't need anyone, as proven by Sharon quitting. Everyone thought it would be downhill from there but seemingly not.

LOL! Wow such a deluded comment. Cheryl's vocals live are better than Danni's in the studio.

So? 66th really isn't anything to boast about. She's famous in the UK because of her sister, lets be honest here. I highly doubt she's bigger than Kylie in Australia seeing as Kylie is one of Australia's if not the best export. It's hard to believe, but maybe that's how it started - it's the other way around now. If you walked around the street and asked who's bigger between the both, the answer would be Kylie out of everybody's mouths.

Yes, she can sing. Don't start putting across that argument because she evidently can; in the studio and live. Thanks.

Cheryl CAN sing, I know loads of people who have seen Girls Aloud live and said they were all great.

First of all, I didn't call you stupid, so I'd appreciate it if you didn't call me stupid.

Secondly, the band do exude confidence. Nothing wrong with that. OF COURSE, people buy their music because they like it - where did I suggest otherwise. However, they are mediocre singers (not awful, a damn sight better than a lot of the wannabees we see on X Factor, but they aren't brilliant either), who produce music which was written for them, not by them. And I know you may be about to say that they have co-written songs....hmmmmm. I find it difficult to believe that when 5 girls are picked for their looks (coincidence that they are all good looking? I don't think so), that they all just happen to be able to write songs as well. Remember the Spice Girls got songwriting credits on Wannabee, when all they wrote was 'Zig a zig ah'.

If me saying 'people pulling strings' is beyond you - frankly that's not my problem.

Yes, they were picked by the public, but those shows manipulate the public! That is the most obvious thing in the world (read Chart Throb by Ben Elton - it's fiction, but a lot of it is steeped in fact). Like most manufactured bands - Boyzone, Westlife, Spice Girls, etc., the band are puppets. The real talent is the people who write the songs (dreadful as the songs are, people know what sells), produce and manage the groups. I'm not blaming Cheryl for that - it's just the way it is.

As for whether she has had plastic surgery - what's that got to do with it? Sharon Osbourne famously had lots of surgery; didn't stop her being a good judge. I actually thought that Cheryl had had some work done, but I admit I'm not sure about that, and in any case, it's got sod all to do with what I'm talking about.

Dannii can also sing, in the studio and live. And she can do it a lot better than Kylie, its just that Kylie does more manufactured pop and stuff people prefer. Dannii can sing live better than Kylie.

Cheryl admitted herself she can't sing, I don't think it comes more from the horses mouth than that? I do like Cheryl though.

Cheryl has had work done, but on her teeth. Noones teeth are naturally that perfect. But appearance means nothing anyway, its completely irrelevant.

of course she can singe...i mean c'mon she wouldnt be where she is now...

I wasn't calling you stupid, I called your comment stupid. Sorry if you feel as if it's a personal attack but it really wasn't.

They're everything a girl band should be. Yeah, they have the extra credible factor of all being gorgeous - most of the girls in Popstars were pretty so seemingly it is just coincidential. You're saying that they're as big/famous as they are due to people pulling strings. If you haven't seen their live performances from their tours then please don't call them mediocre singers, because they all have an individual style vocally and can belt out their notes cleanly and professionally, not forgetting impressively. I wasn't going to bring up that they'd co-written songs either and it's not that hard to believe that you're pretty much declaring that good looking girls can't write music, because thats how it's coming across.

The public didn't just choose them for their looks; they were chosen for their talent, the publics preferences. Besides, some members of the band hadn't even matured into their looks during the final stages of making the band.

You're taking so much credit away from the public. Almost as if you're saying that the public don't have a conscience of their own? They choose what they like, they vote for what they like, it's simple. It's not that hard to understand. The individuals are famous, they make the songs they sing famous - not the songwriters, not the producers, but the singers themselves.

Danni denies that she's had it, when it's proven that she actually has. And thats the difference, even if Sharon did have the surgery - she was a good judge. Danni isn't. Cheryl hasn't had work done, she's in her mid-20's and she looks perfectly fine.

She can? Youtube her PSTR performances :)

Dannii hasnt denied it? Sharon was a good judge? Clearly not or else she would have been a better success, no? Her comments stretched to "darling boy".